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    in regards to SFC and Melbourne Heart, these are incidents that are not related. firstly in regards to Heart, it was 1 fan who was caught and prosecuted under the law and given a 5 year ban. in Sydney's case There was no large press covering of the incident and according to police reports he was not connected to the club (whether true or not).

    Vic V WSW was an all out internet fap fest, a clearly pre organised confrontation and retaliation plastered all over social media and then there was the continued behaviour in the stadium that followed by WSW supports. The Fact that it appears that Northgate are running RBB now should be the larger concern for everyone.

    I don' think this is the right avenue to take, I think locking out Active supporters is a better way of dealing with these issues. If they are the problem then they need to accept the blame. imaging a Sydney Derby with no RBB?

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    nothing is going to stop you doing that PV4, but you would probably need to do it many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times. you'd basically need to do it everytime they play, whether at home or away, both in the stadium and outside the stadium.

    far out, you'd think these dickheads were purity defined and that the FFA were just being nasty and vindictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocknerd View Post
    I don' think this is the right avenue to take, I think locking out Active supporters is a better way of dealing with these issues. If they are the problem then they need to accept the blame. imaging a Sydney Derby with no RBB?
    this.
    it wont stop away fans from going, it will just make them more spread out and easier to identify hools (apart from our ground where they can congregate on the hill).
    RBB need to face facts, they know who is ripping the flares and banning them all might just test their loyalty to their 'mates'.

    the other stuff (outside the ground) should be handled by the cops. teams shouldnt be punished for that imho.

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    For some reason my motivation to get some red and black clothes on, a bag of Pyro and head to Parra Stadium next home game has increased a hell of a lot

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    Talk about an over reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    Have the tissues ready MFKS Kale might be in for a start.

    Doubt it the manager hates him and thinks he has aids

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    Well this sounds dodgy as f***.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    Talk about an over reaction.
    Not over reaction, too late with any action.This is Australia(cue Ganggajang) we don't want to be like everyone else with inbred, large forehead people thinking it's all about their pride

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    Both clubs need to send a message .... From the coaching staff and players..... That this shit needs to stop.

    These toss bags don't read club press statement, but get the players to unveil a stricsione I front of the bays telling them to pull their thick heads out of their arses and they ****wits tarts running out of excuses pretty quick.


    All we've ever heard from WSW players is that " we live the RBB" and in one breath you can understand why, but in no other the massive circle jerk that head been going on for 18mth has effectively sent a message that the ****wits can do what they want as long as the team is winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    Talk about an over reaction.
    Okay would you prefer the FFA to turn a blind eye and pretend there is no problem?
    If the violence were to escalate and someone get seriously injured or even killed, the game would be set back 30 years in this country.
    Basically the FFA are saying....if you have other agendas besides watching the football and supporting your team when coming to an A-League match....fark off we don't won't you here!

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    The FFA don't want to take points off any club, but they mean to show that if pushed, they will.

    A line has to be drawn somewhere in the proverbial sand. I'm certain that if implemented correctly and swiftly, this threat of taking points off clubs will have the desired effect.

    Puts me to mind of the old "count to 3" trick used with kids. They either listen, or they get a smacked ass. It's worked for generations, why not for childish football "fans"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    The FFA don't want to take points off any club, but they mean to show that if pushed, they will.

    A line has to be drawn somewhere in the proverbial sand. I'm certain that if implemented correctly and swiftly, this threat of taking points off clubs will have the desired effect.

    Puts me to mind of the old "count to 3" trick used with kids. They either listen, or they get a smacked ass. It's worked for generations, why not for childish football "fans"?
    Can you imagine how ****ed this would be if this was us and not Housos and Tards??

    The ordeals we have to go through just to get ****ing 3 points with GVE at the helm would make it a wrist slashing experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Can you imagine how ****ed this would be if this was us and not Housos and Tards??

    The ordeals we have to go through just to get ****ing 3 points with GVE at the helm would make it a wrist slashing experience
    You're right, it would be ****ed if it happened to us - and that's entirely the point. How long would you tolerate the minority of idiots causing varying degrees of havoc when the team you love we're at risk of getting points taken off them?

    By the same token, how long would Clubs sit on their hands and release meaningless Press Statements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    You're right, it would be ****ed if it happened to us - and that's entirely the point. How long would you tolerate the minority of idiots causing varying degrees of havoc when the team you love we're at risk of getting points taken off them?

    By the same token, how long would Clubs sit on their hands and release meaningless Press Statements?
    So you reckon we should form some sort of vigilante posse patrolling the streets of Broadmeadow on game days looking for Jets fans and lay the smackdown on them when they step out of line???

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    Think very carefully before deducting points. You are punishing the wrong people. Why puish the clubs, why not track down the people fighting (or whatever they were doing) and punish them. Simon Hill made an imprtant point, at the cricket there was trouble by a small group of fans. Nobody is suggesting stripping Australia of that ashes game win.
    By following the line of reasoning of stripping points, then the Jets should be deducted points as well, wasn't there some sort of trouble a couple of weeks or so ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Think very carefully before deducting points. You are punishing the wrong people. Why puish the clubs, why not track down the people fighting (or whatever they were doing) and punish them. Simon Hill made an imprtant point, at the cricket there was trouble by a small group of fans. Nobody is suggesting stripping Australia of that ashes game win.
    By following the line of reasoning of stripping points, then the Jets should be deducted points as well, wasn't there some sort of trouble a couple of weeks or so ago?
    That trouble with us wasn't our fault it was the Wanderers fault AND the polices fault
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    Okay would you prefer the FFA to turn a blind eye and pretend there is no problem?
    For starters it should never have happened.

    I went to a Thuringian Cup game when I was in Germany to see SC Weimar 1903 vs FC Carl Zeiss Jena in Weimar. The authorities ensured that fans arrived at the ground safely. Hell they even allowed about a thousand Jena fans march down the main road from the station to the market square and then on to the royal palace. From there it was up the hill to the stadium. Throughout there was roughly 200 police including riot squad for a total attendance of about 6000 at the game.

    Other then the German riot squad and police charging the away fans to keep then inline nothing really of note happened.

    FFS I'd prefer the police and FFA to be proactive admit they ****ed up instead of reactionary measures that do nothing but punish fans for being passionate about their teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    For starters it should never have happened.

    I went to a Thuringian Cup game when I was in Germany to see SC Weimar 1903 vs FC Carl Zeiss Jena in Weimar. The authorities ensured that fans arrived at the ground safely. Hell they even allowed about a thousand Jena fans march down the main road from the station to the market square and then on to the royal palace. From there it was up the hill to the stadium. Throughout there was roughly 200 police including riot squad for a total attendance of about 6000 at the game.

    Other then the German riot squad and police charging the away fans to keep then inline nothing really of note happened.

    FFS I'd prefer the police and FFA to be proactive admit they ****ed up instead of reactionary measures that do nothing but punish fans for being passionate about their teams.

    Same in switzerland... could detail a long list of the measures that are in place here.. which some are a little extreme but many should be enforced...


    E.g our fan group have a deal in place with the club that no pyro will be let of at HOME games during the season.. With this we get more access to the club, much less privacy invasion for the home GA sector and a monetary benefit....
    Amigos Aarau

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    Those points are all good and well as to what happens in Europe.

    Issue is here in Australia the policing/security aspects of crowds at HAL games are inept. The authorities have no ****ing idea and massive change is needed on this front. Until the Police/Security decide they wish to make changes nothing will happen on this front.

    Look at the way the Police operate with drunkenness issues in Newy. You never see them out and about early in the night nipping stuff in the bud or even maintaining a high presence outside a nightspot on closing time. No they turn up 10-15 mins after a ruckus occurred and half the parties have left the scene.

    Policing in this country in general is far too reactionary and not preventative

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Policing in this country in general is far too reactionary and not preventative
    Agreeing with MFKS on this issue.
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