Hover hand or no hover hand?Originally Posted by Bon
Hover hand or no hover hand?
Thats not correct. The FFA still provide central grants as they have always done, its just that the amount the clubs receive since last season now exceeds the salary cap. As pointed out there is an 85% cap floor that must be spent meaning that funds in excess of 85% can be spent by the club as they see fit. FFA pays the clubs quarterly and clubs pay the players.
[Edit] The CEO/chairman of every club is required to provide a signed undertaking that the club distributions will only go towards player salaries. Any additional funds remaining after player payments are are met can be used for "other purposes" providing all other obligations have been met.
Out of interest the difference now between salary floor and grant is this year $382, 500. [Edit]
What is different is how the penalties are enforced now for non-payment of players. Non payment of players is and has always been a breach of licence meaning its grounds for stripping the licence as what happened to Con. When the grants were increased clubs were told the enforcement would be non conditional and any non-payment would result in a stripping of the licence. Thats why Tinks has always maintained the players are paid on time although there has been instances of late payment of super.
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They could potentially only slash players to the 20 player squad minimum and 85% of the cap. We are reportedly already well under cap but as both Flores and Galloway were min wage players its unlikely to have any effect to the cap. Any other players sold from this point will have to be replaced to the same value at least to keep within A-league regulations
We would be in breach of the regs for clubs and the licence could be revoked. That won't happen while Tinks wants to keep/sell the club.
The CBA covers all this
ah ok. that solves that. i was thinking after earlier posts that if FFA covers the full salary cap, and the money can only be used for the salary cap, then why the hell wouldn't a club use the full salary cap? your "other purposes" makes it abundantly clear. FFA subsidising tinks.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...ts-house-order
Tinkler, who took over as chairman after the resignation last week of Ray Baartz, said he is working with the governing body to ease its anxieties and 'take the club forward'.
The Singapore-based businessman also insisted that a new CEO would be appointed within weeks to replace Robbie Middleby, who left the club along with Baartz, a move which prompted Tinkler into taking the reins.
"There are things we need to fix like our relationship with Northern NSW Football. But I don’t think you would walk into any A-League club and say everything is perfect," said Tinkler.
"Those outstanding debts will get tidied up. We have now got our heads around things and are working on fixing them in the next couple of weeks.
"I’m still getting my feet under the desk (as chairman) and I have spoken to just about everybody involved with the club now.
"There are definitely things to work on and we need to improve our performance off the paddock as well as on it."
The Jets owe $140,000 to Northern NSW Football for the Emerging Jets and W-League programs and are $30,000 in arrears in rent at their university training base.
A-League chief Damien De Bohun and the FFA's chief operating officer John Kelly journeyed to the Hunter on Monday to meet Jets staff and assess the club’s operations, with De Bohun subsequently expressing his concerns over its sustainability but also stating he was pleased to see Tinkler pledging to inject capital and taking a more hands on role.
"There’s no magic bullet in turning the place around,” added Tinkler. "Acknowledging issues and dealing with them is the first step forward - and we are doing that.
"We are working with FFA to make them comfortable. They have our full cooperation."
Tinker reiterated his desire to swiftly appoint a new CEO, adding: “The process is going ahead. Some candidates should be shortlisted in the next week or two and then we’ll conduct some interviews and we’ll get somebody fit for purpose that can be there day-to-day and take things forward."
He also lashed out at those he believes have questioned the club’s commitment to its 10,000-plus members.
"There’s a perception out there put forward by certain sections of the media that we don’t have a deep relationship with our member base,” he said.
"We have built that member base and getting results for our members and fans is our primary aim ... it narks me when people say we aren’t focused on membership or community engagement.
"That’s the top priority for everybody involved at club. One thing we all have in common is that we want the club to win and unfortunately injuries haven’t helped us this year."
While young defender Sam Gallaway and playmaker Marcos Flores have left the club within days of each other, Tinkler insisted he is working to keep the core of the team together and revealed that Andrew Hoole – one of the bright sparks in a disappointing first half of the season – has been offered a new contract in a bid to stave off a raid from Sydney FC.
"(Jets coach) Phil (Stubbins) is looking forward to working with him and watching him develop over the next few years," he said.
"We’ve tabled a new offer and are very keen to retain him. He is a great young prospect and we want to retain our best juniors, starting with him.
"He’s been a standout and one of the best under 23 year olds in the competition."
On the exit of Flores to North American Soccer League side Jacksonville Armada, Tinkler said: "It would have been silly to stand in his way after he was offered a three-year contract. He had some fitness issues with us and was limited in the amount of games he played."
Tinkler said he was heartened that David Carney had committed himself to the club despite interest from Sydney FC, adding: “He has been one of our best this season.
"He’s happy to stay and is a winner who wants to be a part of what we’re trying to build here."
Tinkler is also hoping to see the best of creative midfielder Billy Celeski in the second half of the season after he too was beset by injuries.
"We haven’t seen much of him yet but he was one of the better players in the competition a year or so back and hopefully there will be an upside in the second half of the season when we get guys like him and Jeronimo more involved and up to peak form."
Tinkler shrugged off on-going criticism of his methods in the Newcastle press, declaring: “A few bloggers doesn't ruin anybody’s day.
"I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members and not the three or so different names that login and blog the same stupid comments every day. That's effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald isn't it?
"Whether it’s a Jets coach, a Knights coach, a Jets CEO or a Knights chairman ... once you take on that role in Newcastle you are there to be vilified.
"Every time the team gets beat it’s your fault. Every player indiscretion is your fault – that's just how it is.
"I have spent lot of time in Newcastle and I don’t think everybody is like that. Just one small portion of the media, unfortunately.
"It’s nice to get into club in a more hands on way, build some relationships, tackle some issues – hopefully people are appreciating dealing with a decision maker."
Fans?"I’m still getting my feet under the desk (as chairman) and I have spoken to just about everybody involved with the club now.
This is good.Tinkler insisted he is working to keep the core of the team together and revealed that Andrew Hoole – one of the bright sparks in a disappointing first half of the season – has been offered a new contract in a bid to stave off a raid from Sydney FC.
As much as this made me laugh, insulting the paper isn't a great move."I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members and not the three or so different names that login and blog the same stupid comments every day. That's effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald isn't it?
All up, a decent positive outlook.
Could be smoke and mirrors, time will tell.
Makes a great point about Newcastle's tall poppy syndrome, it is one thing we need to shake off if we are ever going to progress.
Last edited by GazFish35; 17-01-2015 at 09:17 AM.
Also just saw our favourite pieman is no longer required
https://twitter.com/socstoppagetime/...14722379657216
Surprised how he actually knows who the guys in the club are - a very lucid interview, interesting.
Worst case is it is all baloney and we'll be taken over by FFA or fold.
Best case is Tinks has seen the light, told RM and RB to jump or be pushed and will bring better people in.
I'm 50/50 at this stage - as above, time will tell.
**** me. I bet Tinks throws him a contract.
What price he signs for us??
Things are already hard enough to swallow as it is.
We are desperate for players and he is available.
This just keeps getting worse
Love how Tinks is using the " No babe I won't blow in your mouth" approach to getting the fans on side.
what is this?
Tinkler speaking sense
One way of destroying the club from the inside.
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
I think it's fantastic that the bloke writing the cheques finally is interested in the players. Whatever the endgame
Issue is at this stage it is all talk.
Talk may lead to action and all that
Talk may also be bullshit being blown up our arses.
Not wishing to be a cynical **** but we have years of talk from the club about sticking with us we will turn it around and all the other bullshit clichés spat out.
Actions speak louder than words.
I think we need to see some action in the next week and I am not talking about signing some nobody we have never heard of.
Tinks need to deliver something that says he is to be believed until then the jury is out
I agree, though will give him till the end of the transfer window
We have 2 foreign spots in the roster. If he was serious we would use them
In my opinion he's saying all the right things but behind the scenes it's far from what he's portraying and is running the club into the ground and asset stripping so he can make himself out to be the good guy when all hell breaks loose and the FFA step in.
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
It's been a week, what were you expecting? And what assets has he stripped?
I don't particularly beleive the guy either but there has been nothing this week that suggests what you say. It's the previous 18 months he has to answer for.
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