http://www.a-league.com.au/video/jet...ection/1126433
I wouldn't be holding your breathe on ffa... This was tweeted out during the game
http://www.a-league.com.au/video/jet...ection/1126433
I wouldn't be holding your breathe on ffa... This was tweeted out during the game
Sadly i have to agree with thisFriday’s announcement that some Jets creditors had been paid, having waited impatiently for long-overdue liabilities to be settled, was hardly a cause for celebration.
Rather, it was a case of too little, too late. Even if the one-time billionaire was to start paying his bills in a timely fashion, thereby avoiding the type of publicity for which he has become notorious, what evidence is there that he has the faintest idea how to turn the Jets around after five seasons of mediocrity?
His track record speaks for itself.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/28...l-jets/?cs=305
Gee whizTHE dispute between David Carney and the Newcastle Jets over the club’s attempt to sack the former Socceroo is set to come to a head.
Professional Footballers Australia players union has filed a grievance against the Jets on Carney’s behalf and is awaiting instruction from the National Dispute Resolution Chamber.
Carney, who is understood to be on $230,000 a season, is one of five players alongside captain Kew Jaliens, vice captain Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi the Jets moved to cull after a failed player push against coach Phil Stubbins.
The other four, who are off contract, are awaiting revised termination offers.
After initially offering to pay out the final 18 months of Carney’s contract, the Jets moved to sack him with no payout over three alleged breach notices.
Carney has accepted two of the breaches but has rejected the third, which is understood to involve a conversation he had with owner Nathan Tinkler.
The Jets will be formally notified of the grievance and, if they proceed, the matter will be heard by an independent arbitrator.
The first step in that process is a directions hearing, which sets parameters and tables a timeframe for formal submissions.
A PFA spokesman said he expected the issue to be finalised in ‘‘weeks not months’’.
‘‘This is David’s playing career. We want to get through it as quickly as possible,’’ the spokesman said.
With the approval of the PFA, the five exiled players have returned to Jets training but are working apart from the main group.
After rejecting the initial offers due to a lack of protection of player entitlements, including superannuation, the PFA have been waiting more than a week for revised documents.
Tinkler said in a Sydney newspaper report last week that the unwanted players ‘‘are getting what is entitled to them in full’’, but he would not pay them before they sign their termination agreements.
‘‘Everything is there, including superannuation,’’ he said.
‘‘All they have to do is sign the mutual termination with the agreed amount on it and they will be paid. But they want me to pay them first before they sign and that’s not going to happen.
‘‘They are terminated from the club and that’s it. I don’t know why they are hanging around because they made it clear it was an environment they wanted to change and not be a part of.’’
A PFA spokesman responded: ‘‘They have not had an offer that is at a level they are willing to consider.’’
Issued a show cause notice by Football Federation Australia eight days ago over mounting debts and operational issues, Tinkler paid about $500,000 to a series of creditors on Friday.
He also indicated a further $400,000 debt relating to unpaid superannuation for players and staff would be met this week.
If the players agree to mutually terminate, they will become free agents.
Most A-League clubs have full playing rosters.
However, there could be opportunities elsewhere in Asia, with some leagues starting in the next two months.
The Jets cannot sign replacements until the five players have officially departed, and this is affecting training.
With Allan Welsh and Travis Cooper rested after playing youth league on Sunday, they had 12 outfield players at training on Monday.
Value for Money there
Highest assists for us this season. Arguably our best player so far too.Originally Posted by MFKS
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correct. many would argue.
Been decent going forward, questionable work rate in defence.
still, if his third breach was "a converstaion with tinkler" he's rating just went up in my book.
Last edited by GazFish35; 10-02-2015 at 10:15 AM.
230k is massive overs no matter what he delivers. We knocked back Smeltz in his prime when he wanted that much.
180k would have been a more realistic contract.
And the guy openly breaches his contract twice ffs. SFC scumbag
230k is not as high as some think.
Ryan Griff was on 200-250k plus a goal bonus.
NTS after SFC came sniffing was on 250k.
Most visa players in the league are on 200-300k, if not on marquee status.
200-250k for a returning Socceroo is quite reasonable IMO.
OK
The common denominator there is the Jets paying overs. 230k is the sort of coin you splash on a goal scoring No 9 or 10.
I don't begrudge Carney or any player for getting that contract when we are stupid enough to pay it. It's his behaviour afterwards that is disgusting.
[edit]. And he wasn't a returning Socceroo. Carney hadn't played for anyone in quite sometime before signing originally with the Jets. We threw him a career lifeline.
I have never been convinced that Middleby had done anything really to warrant the criticism but wasting salary cap like this is certainly worthy
Last edited by borat; 10-02-2015 at 10:56 AM.
For 230k we do need to be getting a bit more value from who ever it may be Goals Goals Goals Piles of assists and dominant performances.
Carney was just the best of a bad bunch and I would only rate his impact at 6/7 out of ten. Need to be getting much better value out of our big money players
Leading our assists and some games being one of the only players showing any remote promise (remember that point we got in Parramatta - him and Flroes were the only two that even showed up that day!). I fail to see how he wasn't considered value for money as one of our highest earners tbh.
OK
. What other club would be earn anywhere near that? Not SFC we know for sure.
It's all subjective yes but to me David Carney earning 230k is symptomatic as to why this club is running 2nd last. Our top earners are so far behind the rest of the league.
All of our players are so far behind the rest of the league.....
Sydney FC were rumoured to be offering 300k for him!
Particularly because the salary cap is paid for by the TV deal, clubs don't have as much of a care about the salary cap and exactly who is on what as they used to. In the sense that if a club needs a LM/LB, and has 300k or so free, they'd have no issues paying what is potentially overs to get the man.
It's all about supply and demand. It's hard to just pluck a capable LM out of obscurity, as seen by the failed imports the league has ever year. If a club needs a LM, and has spare salary cap space, they'd have no issues using it up.
OK
Nah, that's garbage. We are so far behind the rest of the league because our coaching staff is not up to scratch AND the shit players in our team are far, far, far behind other teams shit players. If anyone can honestly say that Gallagher or Welsh would get a look in at ANY team in the league, you're having a laugh.
But the coaching issue is still our biggest problem.
Biraz
Neville - Jaliens - Madaschi - Carney
Kanta Flores Celeski
Hoole Griff Steele
Throw in Montano, Jeronimo, Pepper, Caravan, Regan... that's what our squad was. There is no way that team finishes dead last with a decent coach at the helm.
Most important part of your claim
You are living in fantasy land if you think any of our top 5 players would be even close to the top 5 of other clubs.
And where did I say anything about the rest of the squad and coach being any good?
The proof is there for to see. SFC nor any other clubs wants Carney for the crazy money that we are paying him.
Hard to say that as true.
Until his situation at the Jets is sorted he ain't signing for anyone until that is resolved so what interest there is for him is at this point in time hidden and out of view
He was shopped around at Xmas and Arnold wouldn't take him on the money he was on.
The way I read it in the media was that Carney decided to stay even though Arnold & SFC definately did want him and for more than what he was on here.
You have to remember also that because we aren't one of the so called big teams, sometimes we have to pay overs to get the quality here. Carney was seen as a player who should provide above average quality in this league so we paid more than what he was probably worth initially to get him in a Jets shirt. Considering he was one of our better attacking players, I would regard that as a decent investment, even if his defensive capabilities and crowd interactions left a lot to be desired.
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