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    Looks like we're making some decent signings. Can't wait for him to show some promise, get benched and then released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pico View Post
    Looks like the Hoole haters might get their wish of him being dropped to the bench after all.
    Like **** that will happen.

    Not when player agents are picking the team.

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    So the entirety of the cap is covered by payments from the FFA.

    Why aren't we using the whole cap again?
    Middleby Gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas477 View Post
    So the entirety of the cap is covered by payments from the FFA.

    Why aren't we using the whole cap again?
    Only reason I can see is that if you choose to use the salary floor for your squad, any surplus would then become available for covering additional operational costs, coaching staff, youth team players etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Harper just described our play as constipated. Perfect description of our slow movement that goes nowhere and of our coach who is full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pico View Post
    Only reason I can see is that if you choose to use the salary floor for your squad, any surplus would then become available for covering additional operational costs, coaching staff, youth team players etc.
    Except pv4 has suggested that's not how it works at all.

    Paging WLG, please give your input here again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Except pv4 has suggested that's not how it works at all.

    Paging WLG, please give your input here again.
    I don't have much more to input, other than I'm led to believe that clubs don't get to keep the leftover money they wouldn't have used in the cap so there's no advantage or disadvantage not to use the full cap other than you have no room to move if players want payrises and you've filled it already.
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I don't have much more to input, other than I'm led to believe that clubs don't get to keep the leftover money they wouldn't have used in the cap so there's no advantage or disadvantage not to use the full cap other than you have no room to move if players want payrises and you've filled it already.

    Back to the Sheep Quiz Answers then

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I don't have much more to input, other than I'm led to believe that clubs don't get to keep the leftover money they wouldn't have used in the cap so there's no advantage or disadvantage not to use the full cap other than you have no room to move if players want payrises and you've filled it already.
    well, potentially yes and no. who pays for accommodation and flights? is that covered by the A-league?

    more players means more physio appointments, strapping tape, a whole load of other things in the background. so to me, more players = more money, no matter who is paying the players wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belchardo View Post
    well, potentially yes and no. who pays for accommodation and flights? is that covered by the A-league?

    more players means more physio appointments, strapping tape, a whole load of other things in the background. so to me, more players = more money, no matter who is paying the players wages.
    More players - yes.

    Higher-paid players but same amount of heads - no.
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I don't have much more to input, other than I'm led to believe that clubs don't get to keep the leftover money they wouldn't have used in the cap so there's no advantage or disadvantage not to use the full cap other than you have no room to move if players want payrises and you've filled it already.
    I’m not saying you’re wrong but I haven't seen it reported like that anywhere & I do find it unlikely that the clubs would agree to allowing the FFA to keep a surplus of the TV revenue the clubs generate. My understanding was that player wages had to be guaranteed to be covered by the broadcast distribution as part of the CBA with the PFA, one of the reasons why the PFA agreed to roll over the existing salary cap & floor limits into the new CBA in line with the new broadcast deal. The PFA was stressing in their public wording during negotiations that they were more concerned with player contracts being honoured, after the dismal handling by the FFA during the GCU & NQF collapses, than bumping up the salary cap figure, ironic considering the situation Carney is in now and to a lesser extend the treatment of players recently to force them to "mutually" terminate their contracts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Harper just described our play as constipated. Perfect description of our slow movement that goes nowhere and of our coach who is full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas477 View Post
    So the entirety of the cap is covered by payments from the FFA.

    Why aren't we using the whole cap again?
    Because Tinks can use the underspend elsewhere in the football dept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pico View Post
    Only reason I can see is that if you choose to use the salary floor for your squad, any surplus would then become available for covering additional operational costs, coaching staff, youth team players etc.
    That's exactly what happens. Read the regs covering salary cap payments. There was also an article from a year or so back describing this that I found recently

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    Club Statement – David Carney

    Newcastle Jets wish to inform its members, fans and media that the club has withdrawn a breach of the code of conduct previously assigned to player David Carney.

    In light of the club’s decision, there will be no arbitration hearing between the club and Carney, as was scheduled to be held tomorrow (Friday 20 February) at Football Federation Australia’s (FFA’s) head office.



    Over the past week there have been substantial operational and management changes at Newcastle Jets – changes the club believes will result in a new and positive direction for the Hunter’s Hyundai A-League franchise.


    Newcastle Jets Chief Executive Officer Mitchell Murphy said: "It is the club’s desire to work proactively behind the scenes with David (Carney) and the PFA (Professional Footballers Australia) to resolve the situation in a timely manner."

    "We achieved such an outcome earlier this week with Kew Jaliens, and the club is also committed to continuing the process with Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi."

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    From the sounds of the statement, it seems they're still very intent on terminating his contract - ie they're not happy to have him in the squad still, and are still looking to remove him from it. It'll be way more expensive than the termination of the other players contracts as he had an extra year.
    OK

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    fuk da jets

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    From the sounds of the statement, it seems they're still very intent on terminating his contract - ie they're not happy to have him in the squad still, and are still looking to remove him from it. It'll be way more expensive than the termination of the other players contracts as he had an extra year.
    Mmmm my take, Jets know Carney has a deal lined up in China or elsewhere.

    If they can't terminate then they will see how long Dave is happy to sit on the shelf while deals go by.

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    If Carney evens looks at them the wrong way watch a breach notice get served. Tinkler will get him. Carney had better watch that he fulfill his contract to the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    If Carney evens looks at them the wrong way watch a breach notice get served. Tinkler will get him. Carney had better watch that he fulfill his contract to the letter.
    Just threaten to make him play.
    Reason enough to cut his losses and run.

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    The King is dead.
    Long live the King.

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    This seemed likely when a RW is being signed. I wonder who the new striker is we have lined up

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