Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[q-money]

i can't believe people still listen to, and take seriously, the deranged lunatic that is the member for KFC

[borat]

I read an article that said the name, colours and logo will remain the same

Gallop or De Bohn said they would keep it the same for the time being but it's all up for grabs for the next owner and comunity to decide.

I take that as meaning whichever energy drink manufacturer can come up with the most coin l the FFA has a blank canvas good to go

[MFKS]

What I cannot understand from your position is that you automatically assume that trying to engage the 'casual' fan is at the expense of your so called 'non plastic' fans.

Maybe it is just me but I would think that measures put it place that would make people want to come week in week out, instead of occasionally, would likely in turn benefit the people that already go as well.

Trying to understand why people don't consume your product is a massive part of developing a business. Just as important as keeping the existing users happy.

We already have a product to reward people coming week in week out. It is called a Membership.

Even though I expect Memberships to rise now Tinkler is gone to levels comparable to other HAL Clubs the value will still be there in buying a yearly ticket rather than individual games.

Whilst ever the club is offering half price tickets, tickets for $1, bring a mate for free and all the other initiatives to offer these casual fans a free lunch they are treating their membership who have forked out the big $$ with contempt

I still don't understand why it is imperative to understand why people don't consume the product.
It is a niche product. You either like it or you don't.
Some people follow NRL others prefer Cricket others prefer AFL others prefer football.

Why bother trying to change someone's passion???

Make them welcome if they rock up but FFS stop chasing them. The decision is really theirs.


What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

[MFKS]

i can't believe people still listen to, and take seriously, the deranged lunatic that is the member for KFC

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

[Jeterpool]

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

Now I'm convinced q-money is a MFKS multi. Or is it the other way around?

[Jeterpool]

Hyundai A-League ‏@ALeague · 30m30 minutes ago Hi @AlexGazza25. We are currently working on the fixture list for next season. We hope to release in June. #BeautifulGame

We'll be going to Sydney to play FC twice, Adelaide, Gosford and Brisbane twice. Wellington and Perth will be coming here twice as will Heart, Victory and Wanderers. Next year is our season for 13 home matches.

[q-money]

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

i never said you were wrong though

[hawk]

To make my point clearer, in the 2006/07 season we had a layoff of 6 weeks between games due to the ground being re-sown with grass. on 12/11/06 14,000 people attended the game against the Mariners, on 1/1/07 20,900 showed up for the game against Sydney FC. The only difference between these two games was a media campaign that highlighted the excitement, passion and entertainment that was on show at Jets games. The end of that season saw a passion and electricity that I have never seen repeated.

Now, wouldn't you like to know what attracted those extra 7,000 people? Wouldn't you like them to show up again? To maybe want to show up every week? They aren't going to be attracted by the same thing that you are, because when a certain factor isn't there, they go back to their daily lives.

We need to be clear about all the elements of a successful club, because I want 20,000 people there every week.

If we are going to create a club that is open to the whole community, we need to whole of community involved from the start. No personal agendas.

that was because it was a semi and against Sydney. Newy people love big games

[hawk]

We already have a product to reward people coming week in week out. It is called a Membership.

Even though I expect Memberships to rise now Tinkler is gone to levels comparable to other HAL Clubs the value will still be there in buying a yearly ticket rather than individual games.

Whilst ever the club is offering half price tickets, tickets for $1, bring a mate for free and all the other initiatives to offer these casual fans a free lunch they are treating their membership who have forked out the big $$ with contempt

I still don't understand why it is imperative to understand why people don't consume the product.
It is a niche product. You either like it or you don't.
Some people follow NRL others prefer Cricket others prefer AFL others prefer football.

Why bother trying to change someone's passion???

Make them welcome if they rock up but FFS stop chasing them. The decision is really theirs.


What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

The club needs to please the members with good prices and make games attractive to the casual.

People that follow other codes are (were) coming to Jets games that wouldn't have normally. They then bring friends and too become members. I know of many who have done this.

I am happy with the membership price and have no probs with other freebies. it does slowly grow the game. All kids under 15 have never known Newcastle without a National football team it that is fantastic.

[BodyNovo]

that was because it was a semi and against Sydney. Newy people love big games

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

[Jeterpool]

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

Season 2 was also a semi, and against Sydney. A 2-0 win when Griff and Coveny scored.

Also that was when we were good.

[hawk]

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

that's right there was 34000 at that game about 5 weeks later

[Opinionated]

The club needs to please the members with good prices and make games attractive to the casual.

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I think getting people to games isn't about what happens on match days Friday sat sunday but more about what happens in schools, work places, homes Monday-thurday. If the club is part of the daily lives of the people of that city turning up to the game isn't about to be intertained or getting in for a good price its about about showing up for the pinnacle of your week. Its Turning up with your team not for your team. When the club and the city are together they fight for eachother play for each and pay for eachother. Win the people Monday - thurs and you will see them fri-sunday.

[tha_hauss]

As for your jump in crowds in 2006-07 the ladder position of the side, them winning games and them playing exciting football are the only reasons for the spike. It is a bandwagon ride the club was on and those days don't last forever. Why you feel the need to go out and chase these people defies logic. They are not "PASSIONATE FOOTBALL" fans and are people who enjoy the good times and the latest fad. They jump on and off everything and at the time The Jets were the fad.

Holy Shit! You can't just whitewash a 50% increase in crowd figures. from 14,000 to 21,000 in ONE GAME. That is statistically significant. You'd would expect interest to decrease over a 6 week layoff, not increase. People didn't just say "Oh, they must be a winning team now, let's go watch". Something very specific happened.

There are reasons for this increase. Partly it is because the Sydney FC game was on New Years Day and people were looking for something to do, but once they sampled they pretty much stayed with the Jets until the end of the season, and the semi against Sydney was just under 25,000 people.


I believe it was this:



This campaign was run in the interim and presented something very specific to the public. The confetti, dancing in the stands, Milton Rodriguez, the skill of that Mark Bridge goal, the passion of the players. It looked exotic, it looked passionate.

IT LOOKED LIKE FUN!!!!!

I read all these comments about the problems in the Squadron. You know what it comes down to - FUN! People want to have FUN. For too long it was almost sold to people as a job. We have a role to play, YOU HAVE TO STAND YOU HAVE TO SING or **** OFF!

If you can't understand what are the core motivators of people, how are we going to ever have a club that can regularly compete at the top.

The people of Newcastle aren't a bunch of euro-ultra wanna be's. And that is GREAT. That is what can make us a success, different from Melbourne Victory fans or WSW fans. If going to a Jets game is FUN, then lots of people will come. Summer is supposed to be fun, isn't it.

That's my fear in this whole this, is that the people who are concerned with the "business of football" will make everything so serious. Will make it all about loyalty and "sticking by the team through thick and thin". That's a given for people who are passionate about football. But to be a real success, it has to be light hearted and entertaining. That's where Tinkler and Palmer get a big FAIL.

[Opinionated]

Holy Shit! You can't just whitewash a 50% increase in crowd figures. from 14,000 to 21,000 in ONE GAME. That is statistically significant.
IT LOOKED LIKE FUN!!!!!

I read all these comments about the problems in the Squadron. You know what it comes down to - FUN! People want to have FUN. For too long it was almost sold to people as a job. We have a role to play, YOU HAVE TO STAND YOU HAVE TO SING or **** OFF!

If you can't understand what are the core motivators of people, how are we going to ever have a club that can regularly compete at the top.
The people of Newcastle aren't a bunch of euro-ultra wanna be's. And that is GREAT. That is what can make us a success. If going to a Jets game is FUN, then lots of people will come.

Alittle aggressive but I like your point. You cant force people to support in a certain way, it will never look like a euro league and that's fine! people have to feel comfortable to support the club in their own way. The biggest thing is the club fan culture. WWS have their problems but at the core they built a culture that help the people of their area support their team, no one was forced they just all stood for the same thing. It all comes back to culture. The leaders of the squadron or any other supporter base have to engage the community and stand in the gab between club ceo's and directors and the humble man (or women) and his family of football fans.

[tha_hauss]

As for the excitement factor. I've gone back and watched games from that season and the football on display isn't anything special. Sure we had special players with a bit of flair but lets put the quality of football on display in perspective. It was the excitement that was attractive, not necessarily the quality of football.

[plague]

I think getting people to games isn't about what happens on match days Friday sat sunday but more about what happens in schools, work places, homes Monday-thurday. If the club is part of the daily lives of the people of that city turning up to the game isn't about to be intertained

this is exactly the point the club have missed since day friggin one.

[GazFish35]

What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

these are the people i think the club should focus on.

do it by showing (through actions) that the club is genuineily committed to improving the game in the area.
at all times behave in a manner that is best for the code and many of these people will get on board.

find out why these poeple arent engaged is the first step

you cant exclude them in any future growth plans

[q-money]

1. sack stubbins
2. stop losing all the time
3. ???
4. profit

[Opinionated]

Whats this members forum Gallop is supposing?