Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[stopper2]

It is not about that. My thinking is focus on football people and **** the rest of them attitude. This is a football club and we should focus on appealing to people with an interest in football not to appeal to anyone else

Most of this shit about community engagement is complete crock of shit anyway. It isn't a case of the Jets have not engaged the community as a cause for our problems. It is a case of those running the club have been lying arrogant egotistical ****wits who promise everything and deliver nothing and people have just got ****ing jack of their attitude and constant failure to see the blatantly ****ing obvious

At the end of the day it is about the product and do people want to be a part of it. This year was the low point, it seemed every decision the club made was aimed at disenchanting people more and more from the club to the point where not even Members were bothering to turn up. The Newcastle Jets as a product had nothing going for it, it's obvious that if the status quo remained that the club was heading towards disaster next season with crowds possibly in the vicinity of 5,000.

Under Tinkler/HSG when they tried to form that "Team Newcastle" shit with the Knights I think we started losing our identity and "feel" of a Football club that we had under Con. Now is our chance to get that back and become a real Football club again with a real football culture about it.

[MFKS]

I take your point about more 'locals' but as for world class I don't reackon it made a heap of difference.


Even the 'Knight-Ryder' had a cult following and he was a mangy ginger in headgear and fairly hopeless at that.

Id say more it was the fact your Chiefs etc were on the telly being themselves (boofheads) which made them far more engaging than your current crop of media trained robots.

Remember there was s bit of a run on TV where Topor was taking the piss out of himself about not scoring.

People related to that.

Nowadays from the top down they don't give any time or respect to the media and sadly that's the window to the fans.

Good post Plague

I never realised you were so intelligent. I now see you in a new light

[plague]

Good post Plague

I never realised you were so intelligent. I now see you in a new light

geez mate ive been telling you for years.
good to see you finally catch on.





Only ForeverRed left on the list now....................

[baldrick]

SOCCEROOS boss Ange Postecoglou will be involved in determining who will coach the Newcastle Jets.

However, it appears highly unlikely that Phil Stubbins will remain at the helm.

Football Federation Australia took control of the club on Wednesday after owner Nathan Tinkler was stripped of his A-League licence.

The 15 players on the club's books for next season have been offered contracts identical to the deals they were on at the Jets.

Administrative staff, headed by chief executive officer Mitchell Murphy, have also been brought across to ensure continuity while their positions are reviewed.

But Stubbins and assistants James Pascoe, Mark Jones and Jesse Van Strattan have been left aside.

Their futures now hinge on a review.

That analysis, which is expected to begin next week, will be done in consultation with Postecoglou, national technical director Eric Abrams and head of national performance Luke Casserly.

It is hoped that the coaching situation will be finalised in the next fortnight. The Jets assemble for pre-season training on June 22.


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Sydney United coach and Fox Sports analyst Mark Rudan, former championship-winning Brisbane boss Mike Mulvey and and other high-profile identities Tony Vidmar, John Aloisi and Paul Okon are possible candidates.

The Jets' first coach, Jean-Paul de Marigny, who led the team in the inaugural A-League pre-season before Richard Money took over, resigned on Friday as assistant coach at A-League champions Melbourne Victory.

In announcing that FFA had taken over the club, chief executive David Gallop stressed the importance of re-engaging the local community.

Newcastle-born former Socceroo Clayton Zane, one of three support staff sacked by Tinkler and Stubbins in January, guided the Jets for the final 12 games of the 2013-14 season.

Since his axing, Zane has been completing a Masters in Sports Coaching as well as working with the Emerging Jets and other junior programs.

"It would be great if local people were involved," said Zane, who is yet to have his contract and entitlements finalised. If that does not involve me, I'd still be happy.

"I am undertaking a pro licence next month.

"I met with FFA previously and they are trying to help me with my professional development. Eric Abrams and Luke Casserly know where I'm at with my coaching.

"I'm sure they will have a plan in place."

Former coaches Gary van Egmond, who has had two stints in charge, and Craig Deans are also involved with the Emerging Jets.

Pascoe and Jones, who was the Jets' assistant under van Egmond in the 2008 championship campaign, are keen to continue.

A teacher at Hunter Sports High, Pascoe was promoted from youth team coach to assist Stubbins after the sackings in January.

Jones, who was assistant coach in 2008 when the Jets won the championship, joined the staff at the same time.

As well as assisting Stubbins, Jones was the strength and conditioning coach and video analyst.

"Jimmy Pascoe and Mark Jones came in and steadied the ship," former defender Taylor Regan said.

"They did a great job, so I'd hope they were rewarded for their work."

Stubbins, who aligned himself closely with Tinkler, returns on Monday from a scouting mission in Europe and remains "100 per cent committed" to Newcastle.

"I think we've now got a chance to rebuild well," he said on Wednesday.

Under the 52-year-old Englishman, the Jets finished last with three wins from 27 games, the club's worst season in history.

In a tumultuous campaign, Stubbins and Tinkler sacked senior players Kew Jaliens, Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi and support staff Zane, Neil Young and Andrew Packer.

The coach also had a major falling out with several other players.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/30...-coach/?cs=306

[MFKS]

DISCARDED home-grown players Taylor Regan and James Virgili have welcomed Football Federation Australia's takeover of the Jets and are hopeful it could lead to a second chance for them at the club.

Jets coach Phil Stubbins cut Regan and Virgili on April 28, sparking an outcry from many supporters.

Regan, 26, captained the side after the mid-season sacking of five senior players and was named the members club player of the year.

Virgili, 22, started and was among the Jets’ best in rounds 11 to 14 before a training-ground accident left him with a season-ending broken ankle.

Both were gutted at the decisions, especially given Regan was assured he would be given a deal and Virgili made multiple attempts while sidelined to gain clarity on his future with the club.

Both are yet to make a commitment for next season and hope this week’s event at the Jets could open the door for a return, especially given Stubbins, who presided over just three wins in 27 games, is unlikely to remain coach.

Regan, who is getting married this weekend, said he was looking home and abroad for a new club but was open to a return at the Jets.

‘‘Now that this has officially happened and I haven’t made a decision as to what I’m going to do yet, that potentially could become an option,’’ Regan said.

‘‘Again, I love Newcastle and I’d love to be at the club, but that’s a decision obviously for the FFA or the coach, or Phil. It depends.





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‘‘Obviously it was Phil who probably made the decision to get rid of me.

‘‘Whilst he’s here, I guess I won’t be.

‘‘We’ll wait and see, but certainly if a door was open and an opportunity arose back here with the club, I’d certainly look at it.

‘‘I’d love to be a one-club person and Newcastle is my home.’’

Virgili has been linked with a move to Western Sydney Wanderers but said he had nothing ‘‘concrete’’ in place for next season and his preference was to play for Newcastle.

‘‘I didn’t want to leave here in the first place, so if the opportunity does come to have another chance to stay here in Newcastle, then I’d love to have it,’’ Virgili said.

‘‘I guess that depends on who the FFA decides to appoint coach.

‘‘A few weeks ago I was told I wasn’t going to be signed again so I thought my chances were 100 per cent gone of playing here next season, but with what’s happened, it does give us a glimmer of hope.’’

Virgili said he might even hold off on his next move to keep hopes of a new deal at the Jets alive.

‘‘I’m in limbo at the moment now anyway, but depending on how long it took, I might try and drag it out a bit more to see if something does eventuate here,’’ he said.

‘‘I’m basically taking each day as it comes.

‘‘You never know what can happen in football.’’

As for the Jets, Virgili said FFA’s intervention would be a ‘‘breath of fresh air’’ at the club.

‘‘In the past, the FFA has taken over clubs and those clubs have done well under their ownership,’’ he said.

‘‘It could turn out to be a good thing for the club.

‘‘They are going to make the right decisions and they won’t jump into anything.’’

Regan was confident the Jets had a bright future, especially after speaking with former Jets teammate and Wanderers striker Labinot Haliti on Friday about FFA’s tenure in charge of Western Sydney.

‘‘I was giving me a run down on how FFA did things when they were in control of Western Sydney and it sounded very positive,’’ Regan said. ‘‘He was very confident that Newcastle will return to being what they should be, and that’s being strong in the A-League.’’

Don't know who is pushing this stuff.

Our new dawn should actually see us try and attain the best squad we possibly can.

Signing blokes who were not up to it in the past makes little sense unless we want to be as shit as we have always been.

[Tommyjet]

Don't know who is pushing this stuff.

Our new dawn should actually see us try and attain the best squad we possibly can.

Signing blokes who were not up to it in the past makes little sense unless we want to be as shit as we have always been.

I would resign Reagan unless the new coach has a better option than Mullen in mind in which case Mullen can become back up.

In regards to virgili, I believe we have waited long enough for him to become consistent a-league quality and he hasn't convinced a coach yet to give him regular games. Time to move on.

[pv4]

Why did the article say Virigili was our best from round 11-14. He was expectedly average for all his games this season, bar one where he played what I thought was ok and the rest of the town seemingly though was amazing.

Re-signing him would be a sign of us sticking with the usual service.

Regan though, I think should be re-signed.

[MFKS]

I would resign Reagan unless the new coach has a better option than Mullen in mind in which case Mullen can become back up.

In regards to virgili, I believe we have waited long enough for him to become consistent a-league quality and he hasn't convinced a coach yet to give him regular games. Time to move on.

If the new manager can't find a better CD than Reegz whether they be an Aussie or a foreigner than god help us.

I would also stress that even with Mullen Boogaard at the club neither who are outstanding but only solid HAL level players our other CD option should be a better player than both of them.

Particularly when we drastically need to improve defensively. The addition of Boogaard only to the current defensive ranks was not gonna turn us from poor defensively to good defensively.

Reegz top bloke but we do need to move on from the past.

[Tommyjet]

If the new manager can't find a better CD than Reegz whether they be an Aussie or a foreigner than god help us.

I would also stress that even with Mullen Boogaard at the club neither who are outstanding but only solid HAL level players our other CD option should be a better player than both of them.

Particularly when we drastically need to improve defensively. The addition of Boogaard only to the current defensive ranks was not gonna turn us from poor defensively to good defensively.

Reegz top bloke but we do need to move on from the past.

I suppose it depends how much the new coach wants to spend elsewhere in the squad. If rudan is the new gaffa then I dare say he'd be looking for a better defensive option or two.

[plague]

Geez, Virgili is still only 22?
Feels like everyones been bagging the shit out of him for 10 years at least. How time flies.

Biggest problem with him has been coaching. Surely there is something there that a decent coach can harness?
Put it this way id rather have him on the books for $29.99 rather than pay Ibini the rumoured marquee wages Stubbs was thinking of. They would have been the exact same player under his coaching.
You cant tell me Ange wouldnt have turned Virgili into a poor mans Rojas, or Barbarouses? i reackon he would.

Anyway with a new coach maybe he can do a bit more with the kids in our region. As a lower wage squaddie i think he can add something.


If the last few years have proved anything is that our biggest problem has been coaching because blokes who leave here cause they aint good enough seem to go ok at other clubs.

like, lots and lots of players.

[MFKS]

Geez, Virgili is still only 22?
Feels like everyones been bagging the shit out of him for 10 years at least. How time flies.

Biggest problem with him has been coaching. Surely there is something there that a decent coach can harness?
Put it this way id rather have him on the books for $29.99 rather than pay Ibini the rumoured marquee wages Stubbs was thinking of. They would have been the exact same player under his coaching.
You cant tell me Ange wouldnt have turned Virgili into a poor mans Rojas, or Barbarouses? i reackon he would.

Anyway with a new coach maybe he can do a bit more with the kids in our region. As a lower wage squaddie i think he can add something.


If the last few years have proved anything is that our biggest problem has been coaching because blokes who leave here cause they aint good enough seem to go ok at other clubs.

like, lots and lots of players.

I seriously doubt we would have ever got Ibini anyway even if Tinkler had money

I read something in the lead up to the GF about Ibini how his dad passed away just after he signed to play in China. Since then he has got a loan back to Gypos and then to Smurfs as he is taking on the role of chief financial provider for his mother and brothers and sisters and taking care of his family who are settled in Sydney

I couldn't see him shifting base from Sydney for those reasons and fully expect him to stay at a Sydney Club or even Gypos as it is only an hour commute. Can't imagine he would want the 2 hour commute up and down the F3 every day to play for us when he does have other options.

[MFKS]

I suppose it depends how much the new coach wants to spend elsewhere in the squad. If rudan is the new gaffa then I dare say he'd be looking for a better defensive option or two.

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

[Jetmaster]

I think signing two or three of the outcasts (Griff, Reegz, maybe Caramello) would be good move and be an olive branch to the community AND an admission that the previous lot ****ed up.

Virgili...no. He has had plenty of opportunities and never had that immediate impact that new kids like Cruse, Kosta, Goodwin and many others have showed when starting out. The comments from his agent a few days ago smacked of desperation to get him a gig.

[stopper2]

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

Would it be a fair comment to say that no more players should be signed till the new coach (I'm assuming Muppet is gone) comes in?

If the new coach wants to work with the likes of Reegz, Virgili and Caravella then so be it, but the last thing we want to be hereing again is the new coach whingeing and using the old "it's not my team" card!!!

[MFKS]

Would it be a fair comment to say that no more players should be signed till the new coach (I'm assuming Muppet is gone) comes in?

If the new coach wants to work with the likes of Reegz, Virgili and Caravella then so be it, but the last thing we want to be hereing again is the new coach whingeing and using the old "it's not my team" card!!!

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.
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[stopper2]

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.
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Reckon FFA have been in the background for months now, reckon Murphy was installed there by them and when I heard 3 weeks back Middleby/Baartz had been to a meeting with Gallop this only confirmed my gut feeling.
Have to agree Member, out of nowhere de Marigny quits Victree but no news on why. Hereing some say that Jones and Zane deserve a chance, and I agree but in some respects I really think the best outcome would be to have some totally new take over, someone who has a strong personality and leadership qualities who will take responsibility and not blame others.

[seldom]

Bring in a high profile coach and keep Jones as assistant. As for Pascoe, he's way out of his league.

[borat]

Nope. Whatever coach is signed let them appoint their own staff. Happens worldwide for good reason to avoid the backstabbing that we have seen first hand.

[380]

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.


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Should get down to Speers Pt on that day and remind Mr three from i have lost count and remind him just who's bitch he really is.

[Tommyjet]

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

That's assuming muppet didn't put Mullen and boogaard on contracts well above their worth.