Newcastle United Jets 2013/2014 Squad thread

[The Dunster]

Would any of our current midfield get looked at by NYRB or any other team in the MLS?

Kanta, Pepper, Oxborrow & I'll throw in Wheelhouse, Zads & Caravella for good measure.... can anyone honestly see them making it anywhere outside Newcastle?

Kanta has injury issues which would worry any club regardless of the quality of the league.
Oxborrow is too young / immature to even be considered starting material for the Jets.
Wheelhouse is playing State league without dominating and nowhere near his best.
Zads probably yes.
Caravella, unlikely - but he wasn't in hot demand in the A-league either.

[The Dunster]

David Carney.

Fair call. I didn't realise that.

[The Dunster]

I remember reading salary data for the MLS and was shocked at how little their players are paid in comparison to players in the A-league.

That would tend to explain why not many A-league players would bother going to the MLS - or indeed would be wanted given their asking prices.

I think someone hear said Mooy and Williams were getting over 300k a season at Melbourne.

Hard to imagine any other country offering them that sort of coin - regardless of league quality.

[lil_masi]

I remember reading salary data for the MLS and was shocked at how little their players are paid in comparison to players in the A-league.

That would tend to explain why not many A-league players would bother going to the MLS - or indeed would be wanted given their asking prices.

I think someone hear said Mooy and Williams were getting over 300k a season at Melbourne.

Hard to imagine any other country offering them that sort of coin - regardless of league quality.

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

[Grimario]

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

In 2011 Mooy travelled abroad to England to trial with League 1 club Crewe Alexandra, he subsequently fractured his knee against Wigan and a bone tumour was discovered in his knee during recovery. Mooy has since recovered from surgery to remove a benign tumor and retired to concentrate on studying for a law degree entering university and studying full-time.

[The Dunster]

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

A rookie Defensive midfielder from the youth team being forced to play as a lone striker. Vintage GVE.

He went ok in youth league though. One of the better players in his preferred position.

[The Dunster]

Tim Cahill went to the MLS instead of coming to the HAL because he wanted to play in a better league to keep him top notch for the WC (and funnily enough, he was our best player there).

Has anyone figured that there is a reason no HAL players go to MLS clubs? Maybe because they're not good enough?

$3.625m a season is the reason Timmy went to the MLS. Quality of League has nothing to do with it.

Lots of money on offer for the top players but sfa is paid for the majority of MLS players.

[Thomas477]

FFS get back to the church league, pretend to look like a keeper that can't make any saves but at least dives and stop whining about Middleby or anything the Jets do. You come across as sooky 10yr old that hasn't got his way.

[Couscous]

Have you watched any MLS? From what I have seen its pretty similar, their squad players I would actually say are probably slightly worse than your HAL squaddie. The only reason it gets mentioned more than the HAL is because their is more money to splash on better imports and marquees.

Yes, I've seen MLS games and I usually enjoy them. Did you watch many games last season? It's improving more quickly than the A-League, in my opinion.

Note the qualifications in my post:
- a strong MLS club, of which Red Bulls is undoubtedly one, is a step up from an A-League club.
- Johnny Steele was not a squaddie. He was a first-team player at New York.

[Tommyjet]

The fact stubbins can ask carney what Steele is like exactly makes me feel I can trust this signing until proven differently, more scouting gone into this than a lot of previous signings by gve and co

[Premy]

Read it again you perpetual sook.

[Thomas477]

Read it again you perpetual sook.

Still doesn't make sense. Care to explain how the following is me being a "sook"?

I wouldn't say Vignaroli was below standard, wasn't he one of our best players before hunter stadium caused him to do his ACL?

And you're right, let's see how he goes. Giving him a 2 year deal as an import is a big call.

Being positive on Vigs, and agreeing with whoever it was that we'll see how he goes, is hardly "sook" material. And giving an import a 2 year contract is a big call, no arguments.

You're just making yourself seem foolish with these two posts.

[militiamon]

Oi, haven't been following things much lately, but who is talking shit about Viggers?

Anyone remember him headbutting Heffernan?

I got your back T-dawg

[leftrightout]

Don't know where this started and I wouldn't think the bloke who told me knew anyone inside but I got told this arvo that the jets have spoken to tom juric regarding aus marquee.
I personally don't believe it but thought I may as well post to give something new to talk about.

[borat]

$3.625m a season is the reason Timmy went to the MLS. Quality of League has nothing to do with it.

Lots of money on offer for the top players but sfa is paid for the majority of MLS players.

This is quite true.

I really can't see why anyone is complaining about this signing. Steele was in the last year of his contract at NYRB on 130k US but wasn't getting a run this season.

So at 28 he comes to Australia for say 150k and 2 year contract. Carney would have told him the potential in the A-League to dominate like he has. The Jets get a good foreign player without spending too much. This is win win as far as I can see.

When Carney & Steele played together they played LB & LM (both can play either position). I am expecting they will do the same.

This is a good quality player who will play 1st XI at not too much coin. What is not to like. I am still expecting a DM and maybe a striker to be signed

[furns]

Tim Cahill went to the MLS instead of coming to the HAL because he wanted to play in a better league to keep him top notch for the WC (and funnily enough, he was our best player there).

Has anyone figured that there is a reason no HAL players go to MLS clubs? Maybe because they're not good enough?

Timmy C went stateside because he wouldn't get half the coin here he is currently on at NYRB

[Premy]

Still doesn't make sense. Care to explain how the following is me being a "sook"?



Being positive on Vigs, and agreeing with whoever it was that we'll see how he goes, is hardly "sook" material. And giving an import a 2 year contract is a big call, no arguments.

You're just making yourself seem foolish with these two posts.

One signing doesn't mean we don't have issues. For every Vignaroli or Corbo, there's been Drovandi, Bates, Hakenssen, de Groot, Shoe, Ritter to an extent, Riberio etc. And let's see how he goes first.....

So it's Middleby's fault? I'm in.

All I know is that Middleby was the one chasing him for yonks and not being able to seal the deal, while Nix apparently with ease. There was so many different articles and comments saying we wanted him, going back to what, June last year? Hopefully Stubbins does assemble a good squad, but I know that I'd prefer Burns or Carney coming off the bench, as opposed to Goodwin or Virgilli. Either way, hope Stubbins knows what he's doing.

I said that we COULD use the marquee on either Burns or Carney. But what's to stop them, plus Griff and Flores starting? Chuck Carney to LB (he's a better option than Gallaway) and have Burns at LM. And it may be the predictable route, but when's there's so much previous evidence pointing towards Middleby being the cause of issues, it's not a huge leap.

Have a read, I'm not blaming Burns, I'm having a go at Middleby who has said we've been looking at signing Burns for over 12 months now, yet Nix can get a deal apparently quite easily done. Plus where's this striker who was going to be announced within 48 hours, 3 weeks ago?

Would Burns have been a starter here? Probably not, but signing him would have been a statement saying that we wanted to assemble a strong squad, not just a strong first XI. Again I'll say, if Griffo or Carney gets injured who would I rather, Virigilli or Burns? I'd take Burns precisely because he would be a starter at any other club. We haven't used our Australian marquee yet, so what's to stop him or Carney being the marquee, and the other being under the cap? If City can fit Duff under their cap, we can fit Burns.

As for Burns wanting to come back here, tbh I don't know why any of them would sign for us anyway. We have an owner who doesn't want us and would drop us if he could, an incompetent management structure headed by a bloke who's previous experience was to run another football club into the ground and a stadiums who's pitch which is worse than most all age fields around the region. Griffo especially deserves better than that.

Potentially, but it ties into the whole we'll be announcing a new striker in the next 2-3 days, 3 weeks later and nothing. Fact is our upper management is the worst in the league (perth doesn't count).

Tbh, we should have made a spot for Burns, Griff (much as I love him) doesn't have many years left, while Burns is proven at this level, and potentially should have taken the spot of someone like Virgilli who has 1 good game every blue moon. Burns or Virgilli? I'd take Burns. Cap isn't an issue, we don't have any marquees.

Well in Middleby. Been in talks with the prick for over 12 months now and couldn't arrange a ****ing permaneny transfer. Nux step in and get the deal done easy.

**** you Middleby, most useless ****ing CEO in the aleague, bar that prick who resigned Lowe, but at least he's signed a few good players. FFS.

MIDDLEBY OUT.

Good. Maybe the new owners can smack Middleby and get a decent CEO, one who's past experience isn't running a football club into the ground.

At least he got closer than BK did on a free kick that was closer. But why would we want players showing effort for lost causes? Hell, the players should just walk off the field when we concede a goal, we're gonna lose anyway.

And Sydney's fourth was a good hit, but Moss could have done better I reckon.

I can go and get more evidence for you if you would like.
You sound like a 1930's record stuck on repeat, full of boring repetitive jargon that makes one want to neck them self.
Change the record FFS

As I said you come across as a 10yr old sook that hasn't got their way so they spit the dummy. Get back to the church league, put on you're Keeper gear (we all know you're one of those overweight expert Keepers that has no idea but looks the part) and stop whining.

Does that clear it up for you?

[Premy]

P.S "smack Middleby" that was the best bit

[Thomas477]

Cheers mon.

And premy, Surely you have better things to do than trawl back through the back 3-4 months worth of foz to find things to have a shot at someone over. If it was the photo thread, sure but seriously, you took my comment that was willing to give Steele a go, but acknowledged the fact that in a league where the number of foreigners is capped, giving one a 2 year deal is a big call, into abusing me. Mate, get a life, or keep doing what you're doing, it's quite entertaining

Oh, and "your".

[Premy]

Cheers mon.

And premy, Surely you have better things to do than trawl back through the back 3-4 months worth of foz to find things to have a shot at someone over. If it was the photo thread, sure but seriously, you took my comment that was willing to give Steele a go, but acknowledged the fact that in a league where the number of foreigners is capped, giving one a 2 year deal is a big call, into abusing me. Mate, get a life, or keep doing what you're doing, it's quite entertaining

Oh, and "your".

Wasn't to hard to find bud, as I said you're a perpetual sook just had to look at your post history it's all the same garbage.
Nail. Head. Bang.
Hit a nerve. Truth hurts.

Someone give the kid his bottle and shut him up.