2018/19 Squad

[MFKS]

If we don't start advertising the league to the wider public we are going to shrink back into a hole again. The numbers are getting worse even though the actual football is improving. (Albeit very slightly but still.) I don't think we need a big name to get long term interest in the sport. We need to convince casual football fans to back a team and start becoming members.

There's no point adding a second tier if we only have the same 100k football fans just migrating between teams or doubling up. We need to attract another 60-100k fans to the fanbase.

Iniesta / Honda will give the league a boost short term but we need to do something to get faith back into the league. Gallop going would be the first step.

**** the wider public??

Seriously why do they matter??

We had a game last weekend that the wider public came to

They killed the atmosphere and wont be back

That is exactly what you get when you chase the wider public

Why you want moire of that??



How about we cater towards the football fans in this country 1st 2nd and 3rd

If the Plastic New Dawners want to come on board in the meantime fine

But unite those in the game already first before trying to go entice some blow ins who dont care for the game

Football fans are broken enough already in this country.

Unite them first

[halo se7en]

**** the wider public??

Seriously why do they matter??

We had a game last weekend that the wider public came to

They killed the atmosphere and wont be back

That is exactly what you get when you chase the wider public

Why you want moire of that??



How about we cater towards the football fans in this country 1st 2nd and 3rd

If the Plastic New Dawners want to come on board in the meantime fine

But unite those in the game already first before trying to go entice some blow ins who dont care for the game

Football fans are broken enough already in this country.

Unite them first

Why should they bend over backwards for football fans? What specifics are you talking about? There's a ready-made product in front of their nose and if they don't want to embrace it, that's on them. I'm a football fan and I don't need extra incentives, freebies, discounts, etc to go and watch a sport I thoroughly enjoy.

It wasn't a shit atmosphere at the GF because we had more people. It was shit because those people likely hadn't been to a game before and they were too busy filming Victory fans rather than trying to join in and drown them out. Yeah it's frustrating, but **** it, at least they came. If ~1,000 of those people become members next year then great. Hopefully the hype helps them jump on board next season and buy a membership. If they come to a few games, see the Jets win a few and play some nice stuff on the pitch, hopefully that's enough to keep them coming back. That's how the game grows, and that's how the fanbase grows.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I think they are trying to make the wider public/casual/plastic a “football fan”.
Trying to entice euro snobs, NPL focussed people, families to come and be a member or attend more games.
It’s not a bad thing. Raising the profile of our league and club is the objective.

Yes, give due respect to those members that have been around since day dot.
Maybe in the form of a 1,2,3-10% membership discount or something for every year you’ve been a member. Some kind of loyalty discount. (Probably should be 50% after the last few years).

Idk, you can’t say having 20,000 to a Jets home game Vs Wellington Phoenix wouldn’t be awesome. If those blow ins are converted and buy into the game and support the team, the atmosphere would be on par with those foundation years.

Nobody is disagreeing that the “plastics”/blow ins contributed to a lack of atmosphere.
But what if 5,000 of them turn up first game next season, what if 2,000 of them become members? I dare say our membership numbers will improve next year. At what point does a blow in, become a football fan?

[q-money]

big ronny V is back baby, just hand us the trophy now

[Mark325]

big ronny V is back baby, just hand us the trophy now

No mention of him being a marquee again this season, or when you re-sign a marquee is it just implied they’re marquee again

[MFKS]

No mention of him being a marquee again this season, or when you re-sign a marquee is it just implied they’re marquee again

Pretty certain i read and article where the Gypo CEO stated Ronny was our marquee blah blah and it great to re sign him etc

So it would appear he is Marquee

[mic22]

That's great news.

[Hutcho]

and as expected Pato gone.
Great player but no defensive presence at all. Puts a lot of pressure on the fullback playing behind him.

[The Camel]

and as expected Pato gone.
Great player but no defensive presence at all. Puts a lot of pressure on the fullback playing behind him.

Went to a function recently where Ernie spoke about the upcoming season. Was interesting when he spoke about Pato. He was never in the hunt for resigning. Terms like 'barely a footballer' 'all the skills but zero desire' 'no interest in working as part of a team or didn't care about winning ot losing' were all said. Ernie also said that he never wanted to bring Pato on in the gf but injuries and the shite officials curtailed his plans

[StannyCFCJET]

Went to a function recently where Ernie spoke about the upcoming season. Was interesting when he spoke about Pato. He was never in the hunt for resigning. Terms like 'barely a footballer' 'all the skills but zero desire' 'no interest in working as part of a team or didn't care about winning ot losing' were all said. Ernie also said that he never wanted to bring Pato on in the gf but injuries and the shite officials curtailed his plans

Oh wow

[380]

Went to a function recently where Ernie spoke about the upcoming season. Was interesting when he spoke about Pato. He was never in the hunt for resigning. Terms like 'barely a footballer' 'all the skills but zero desire' 'no interest in working as part of a team or didn't care about winning ot losing' were all said. Ernie also said that he never wanted to bring Pato on in the gf but injuries and the shite officials curtailed his plans

It has never sat well with me when ex players crap on a previous club publicly and i see no good or productive reason why i coach should do the same about a past player/players. If Ernie did make such comments then perhaps the things we now hear from retired Victory players that Ernie does have a unnecessary nasty side.

IMO trash talk like that is just that and needless.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

It has never sat well with me when ex players crap on a previous club publicly and i see no good or productive reason why i coach should do the same about a past player/players. If Ernie did make such comments then perhaps the things we now hear from retired Victory players that Ernie does have a unnecessary nasty side.

IMO trash talk like that is just that and needless.

Not allowed to be honest?

If someone is shit, say they're shit.
If they're a prick, say they're a prick.

Being honest isn't a crime.

[halo se7en]

The FFA have gone out of their way to alienate a lot in the football community in the last 15 years.

They have run out of town anyone with their ethnic cleansing of the game

It high time the ****ers brought the ethnics back to the game and allowed them into the HAL


There is a lot of football people in this category who couldnt give two ****s about the HAL and it down to the FFA and their victimisation of these clubs and their fans for the last 15 years with their exclusion


That really where we should be focusing on

Burying the hatchet there for a start and getting Sth Melbourne in for a start would be a good move


As for your new found plastics you want to come to Jets games how about instead of having discounts etc how about we actually charge an appropriate figure for admission
$30/$40 for an adult to attend a game shows that cunce dont get it.

Me I love the game so will pay $30/$40 no problem
But how can you convince new plastics when you are charging those figures

Ethnic cleansing of the game? You mean those clubs that were super inclusive to anyone and everyone? Just like they can’t connect with the current a-league teams, I’m sure there’s a shitload of fans that couldn’t connect with any of them.

And if you let in Sth Melbourne, what does that mean for the Melbourne Knights fans? Nothing. Are you saying we let all the ex-NSL teams in?

So you want to cater to people who’ve had a cry because their own team didn’t get a license, yet you want to shit on the ‘plastics’ who are at least going out of their way to try something new?

Not one football person I know who doesn’t go to a-league games has stated the price as an issue. You can go for less than $25 pp, no different to NRL. Plus I thought the club/stadium dictated these prices anyway, not the FFA?

[MFKS]

Ethnic cleansing of the game? You mean those clubs that were super inclusive to anyone and everyone? Just like they can’t connect with the current a-league teams, I’m sure there’s a shitload of fans that couldn’t connect with any of them.

And if you let in Sth Melbourne, what does that mean for the Melbourne Knights fans? Nothing. Are you saying we let all the ex-NSL teams in?

So you want to cater to people who’ve had a cry because their own team didn’t get a license, yet you want to shit on the ‘plastics’ who are at least going out of their way to try something new?

Not one football person I know who doesn’t go to a-league games has stated the price as an issue. You can go for less than $25 pp, no different to NRL. Plus I thought the club/stadium dictated these prices anyway, not the FFA?

Every single one of them should be allowed in.
If they cant keep up the pace then they will stay in the State Leagues

The FFA have failed to allow them a fair crack at applying at any stage. They asked for the criteria to put in a submission and the FFA had none to supply
It is the main reason why this code is ****ed at the moment as there is no way in or way out of the HAL

As for your comments about inclusive . Explain how anyone who wanted to be involved at these clubs was excluded??

The bigotry was from those who took offence to the ethnicity of their support. Plkenty of Anglos played for the ethnic clubs without a problem

At no stage in my life have i ever been made to feel unwelcome at an ethnic backed club in this country.



The other reason why these people dont connect with your Sydney FCs and your Melbourne Victory etc is a point that you seem to miss just as much as the FFA

It aint their club.

That is what supporting YOUR club is about. It not something you pick and choose. It a lifelong committment that never ends

[Mark325]

So we have two spots left

Goalkeeper, backline and midfield are sorted for numbers

We need a back-up striker and a starting winger in my eyes, Craig Goodwin would be a good signing but have no idea for the striker and am not sure who would be ideal.

[rhysd]

So we have two spots left

Goalkeeper, backline and midfield are sorted for numbers

We need a back-up striker and a starting winger in my eyes, Craig Goodwin would be a good signing but have no idea for the striker and am not sure who would be ideal.

If Dimi gets any game time at the WC we are going to find it real difficult to keep him. So will be looking for a replacement on that front.

Not sure Goodwin provides the grunt that merrick would be in need of.. however he would provide value.. able to cover a couple of positions in the squad.

[Jeterpool]

Herald reporting Pato has been released. Not surprised but it was a fun summer fling

[plague]

also: shame about Pato, reakon he would have provided many highlights over the course of a full season.

[380]

also: shame about Pato, reakon he would have provided many highlights over the course of a full season.

This . With a full pre season's prep to get him right he could have torn this league up. Maybe a financial thing is why.

[plague]

Maybe a financial thing is why.

oh for sure. and i absolutely cant fault the club for not wanting to hinge everything on both Pato and Vargas.
Vargas def looks to be more of what we 'need' and Pato was a luxury.
As q-man said, his finish against the gypos was lovely. Already a proper Newy boy.


lets just hope Middleby spends the Pato money wisely on things like fixing the VAR, proper beer, Jets shaped hats etc etc etc.