I recently spoke with a player about this and was told that the New Lambton Coaches comments were taken out of context.Originally Posted by Goatscheese
The main point he was trying to make is that all WPL games should be played on a pitch that is held to a certain standard, not the individual circumstances of playing on Adamstown no.2.
Haven't seen many games but around the half way mark of the competition here is my prediction on how I think the table will finish after round 21:
1. New Lambton
2. South Wallsend
3. Merewether
4. Warner's Bay
5. Wallsend
6. Mid North Coast
7. Thornton
8. Adamstown
Leading goal scorer will come from the top 5;
Andrews (NL) - 20 from 8 games
Kingsley (WB) - 19 from 12 games
Dobson - (Mer) 17 from 11 games
Brodigan (SW) - 16 from 10 games
Allan (NL) - 15 from 11 games
Totally agree and could play finals now as that will be the order. It’s just a shame this competition is so lopsided bottom 3 clubs so so far behind the rest. Wallsend next then the two most successful clubs in past 5 years in the Bay andMerewether will be 3 & 4 then the two clubs who have virtually brought the best players from the other clubs will finish 1 & 2 and that model in this competition played on suburban grounds with no gate takings is unsustainable.
[QUOTE=Johnno;225449]Totally agree and could play finals now as that will be the order. It’s just a shame this competition is so lopsided bottom 3 clubs so so far behind the rest. Wallsend next then the two most successful clubs in past 5 years in the Bay andMerewether will be 3 & 4 then the two clubs who have virtually brought the best players from the other clubs will finish 1 & 2 and that model in this competition played on suburban grounds with no gate takings is unsustainable.[/QUOTE
Not sure what you mean about ‘buying’ players, think only maybe 1 or 2 players moved from other clubs to Southy.
Not enough quality players for an 8 team competition and this hasn’t been helped by the rapid growth in the other women’s codes.
Semi final preview this weekend with top 4 playing each other:
Warner's Bay v Merewether @ John Street Oval
South Wallsend v New Lambton @ Walker Field
Unfortunately won't be able to make either game but think that they will both be extremely entertaining and hard fought battles.
After 47 games not one draw this season, surely can't be far away....
POS TEAM PTS
1 New Lambton FC 36
2 South Wallsend JSC 27
3 Warners Bay FC 24
4 Merewether United FC 24
5 Wallsend FC 15
6 Adamstown Rosebud 6
7 Football Mid North Coast 6
8 Thornton Redbacks FC 3
But a hell of a lot of lopsided scorelines
Nearly every comp that I have seen over the last 20 years invariably splits into a top and bottom half Johnno almost like 2 divisions within a comp, including Men, Boys, Girls, Mixed, Northern One & our mighty National Premier League with the likes of Magic, Edgy, Lambton & Olympic being in a different class to Adamstown, Lakes & Valentine and there has been quite a few lopsided scores in games over the last few seasons, no quick fix for these clubs just got to keep chipping away unfortunately can’t change it overnight.
Might happen better if there was promotion and relegation. Can't happen in WPL but in NPL where is the incentive for these teams to improve?
Agree to an extent but no where close to situation in this comp if you compare the goal differences (for and against) the gulf in the WPL is massive with three clubs already at -40+ what is the hope and desire for these clubs, players and volunteers to keep going when certain clubs can just pay players and others can’t. Rumour has it New Lambtons Player budget in WPL is $60K they don’t make this on match days but can afford it due to levying their 1200+ junior players. If Northern don’t do something soon there won’t be a WPL or if there is it will be 4 or 5 clubs. Already rumours Mid Coast are out next year and Thornton considering if it’s all worth it again.
A big rumour based on nothing, imagine how much they have to levy their players to pay the player budget of $60k and also their NEWFM budget which would have to be a lot higher than $60K if the WPL rumour is correct (it isn't)
WPL need to implement a player points system. Too many players leave the lower to mid table teams to join the strong teams. if they limited player transfers, dual registered players, A-League players, etc at each club it would have at least some effect.
Who did you hear that from the Tooth Fairy Johnno.
South Wallsend would have had the biggest budget and have assembled the strongest squad. From the outside they appear to be been very successful in obtaining sponsorship and good luck to them as they are bringing in quality players and pushing the level higher in the competition.
What I do seem to recall a couple of seasons ago was Thornton stacking their reserves/18's and winning the Grand Final 8 goals to 1, didn't hear you complaining about that lop sided result between the top two sides.
Not the place for an NPL discussion however - Weston finished last in 2017, they are first this year, if they got relegated to the second league last year you can almost comfortably say they would not be top of the npl table right now.
Incentive to improve is surely attracting better players, bigger crowds, maybe more sponsorship (I don’t know that as 100% fact it’s just an assumption)
Not sure if relegating a club like Weston with the history it has in this region is the best interest of the NPL
Your absolutely correct, the off field work required by mostly volunteers if order to get a club such as Weston back in this position is massive and it also requires great leadership.
The parallels with the WPL is that, and I'm not trying to put down any volunteers from any other club who all do marvelous work but, I'm fairly sure both of the clubs currently running top 2 have done countless hours of work over the last 2 seasons off the field such as chasing sponsors, fundraising etc under astute management which will generally flow to on field success. Like a business you need your income streams producing enough in order to achieve the goals and aspirations of your club.
Thornton and Mid North Coast have also got to deal with their geographical locations but depending how you look at it that could be viewed as either a positive or negative, but it doesn't appear to be a problem for Weston.
Hoarding the talent in a couple of teams doesn't push the level of the competition higher, it makes in significantly weaker. even when these teams play each other the scores can get out of control. the comp is broken, money has ruined it. the lambton budget is the same as the mens in newfm, which i have heard first hand from a committee member and he was very proud of that as well.
Couple of teams?? So Merewether & Warners Bay both with current and former WLeague players don’t have any talent?? Seriously go and find out what the Southy, Warner’s Bay & Wallsend are spending and get back to us. This thread really is just starting to mirror the NPL thread and all the Magic haters not happy with all the work they do and the rewards that come with their dedication, get in and have a crack and stop your whining and jealousy.
if they have w league players i can assure you they are getting paid. im not associated in the womans game so you can stop with the whining and jealousy garbage. fact of the matter is, the top teams are paying players, some more than others, the comp wont grow until the talent is spread out evenly, and that wont happen without a points system. is your end goal to have a successful club in a 5 team comp or actually grow the womans game. because young girls will walk away if they are getting smashed every week.
In previous years the talent was in concentrated in 1 or 2 teams but for the first time ever there are now 5 competitive teams all with current or former W League players so it’s improving. There is a restriction on the number of W League players any team can have in the comp, but surely you would know that.
Are gate takings the only way a club can become financially stable?
I didn't know there was a restriction on the number of w league players each club could have. Its a good start but more needs to be done. A full player point system needs to be introduced or this comp will die a slow death as Thornton, Mid North Coast, Adamstown etc give up trying.
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