The Politics/Religion/Conspiracies Deathmatch Thread

[The Dunster]

also, if you really love this shit it looks more and more like the Dems have aimed their guns at trump, but accidentally on purpose know that Biden will be the one who gets the most damage.

which might just advantage a few well known and resourced Democratic Presidential candidates.

I'd say you're on the money Plague.

[Frodo]

Anyone willing to back Trump on his decision to throw an ally (the Kurds), who lost 11,000 fighters to help defeat ISIS, to the slaughter at Turkey's hand? Even Fox can't believe he would do something so cowardly and are bagging him out.

[plague]

Anyone willing to back Trump on his decision to throw an ally (the Kurds), who lost 11,000 fighters to help defeat ISIS, to the slaughter at Turkey's hand? Even Fox can't believe he would do something so cowardly and are bagging him out.

Turkey is an ally of USA too.
Trump is letting them sort it out themselves.
It could go absolutely pear shaped.
But just remember that everything Trump does is the beginning of the end of the world according to some. Remember the Nth Korea nuke crisis, remember Iran gonna set fire to the world, remember the pee tape?

I didnt see much commentary on everyone else abandoning Syria over the years. Indeed, the fact America is last man standing with apparently only 100-200 troops in the safe zone says to me that the threat of Turkey (a NATO member) wasnt all that great.

If everyone else in the world is now so ****ing concerned with Turkeys aggression then maybe they should get their asses in there.
NATO has 29 member states, the actions of one (Turkey) and the 'lack' of action from another (USA) shouldnt deter the other 27 ****ing countries from doing something should it?
Trump knows that the damage he can do to their economy ('sup Nth Korea and Iran) is far greater than anything a relative handful of troops can do.

he went to an election promising to stop putting US lives at risk in warzones that arent his problem.


but yeah, its yet another risk hes prepared to put on his shoulders.

[The Dunster]

Turkey is an ally of USA too.
Trump is letting them sort it out themselves.
It could go absolutely pear shaped.
But just remember that everything Trump does is the beginning of the end of the world according to some. Remember the Nth Korea nuke crisis, remember Iran gonna set fire to the world, remember the pee tape?

I didnt see much commentary on everyone else abandoning Syria over the years. Indeed, the fact America is last man standing with apparently only 100-200 troops in the safe zone says to me that the threat of Turkey (a NATO member) wasnt all that great.

If everyone else in the world is now so ****ing concerned with Turkeys aggression then maybe they should get their asses in there.
NATO has 29 member states, the actions of one (Turkey) and the 'lack' of action from another (USA) shouldnt deter the other 27 ****ing countries from doing something should it?
Trump knows that the damage he can do to their economy ('sup Nth Korea and Iran) is far greater than anything a relative handful of troops can do.

he went to an election promising to stop putting US lives at risk in warzones that arent his problem.


but yeah, its yet another risk hes prepared to put on his shoulders.

What's the official line on conflict between member states of NATO ? I was under the impression that an attack against any NATO member was perceived as an attack on all NATO members.

Has this changed ?

If not then any attack on Turkey would effectively expel a state from NATO membership.

Any warzone involving a NATO member is Trumps problem. That's the terms they signed up for.

As cruel as it sounds the USA are essentially bound to only intervene if Turkey ask for their assistance - then things get interesting - but it won't happen.