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Beeen
03-08-2015, 09:35 PM
How awesome the club's canteen is
Premy
03-08-2015, 09:37 PM
Good to see gardos 1st graders getting the job done in reserve grade 👍🏻
You are correct but GNY it has been good to see the boys getting the job done.
It's a credit to the depth the Club has formed over the lest few year's and through hard work of various Coach's over that time.
This season has been a steep learning curve for many of our players. Something that we are proud of is the well known fact that we have lost a handful of 1st graders over the last 2 years and we have still put out competitive teams across all 3 grades. We are proud that we are in a position to promote from within and reward players that have put in the hard work to improve themselves as a player rather than going out and paying blokes to win a 4th tier amateur league.
It's a testament to the great work done by some very dedicated people over the year's and it's that great work and Infectious culture that will continue to reap rewards for many years to come.
Jardelsimage
04-08-2015, 08:57 AM
New Lambton scores still not updated????????
idontwannaplaywithhowey
04-08-2015, 12:05 PM
have had it confirmed they were put in sporting pulse yesterday but hasn't updated. The relevant party is checking it again however. Looks like we miss out on that area of the promotion criteria.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
How awesome the club's canteen is
Keeps Singo in NEWFM....what a canteen that is!
You are correct but GNY it has been good to see the boys getting the job done.
It's a credit to the depth the Club has formed over the lest few year's and through hard work of various Coach's over that time.
This season has been a steep learning curve for many of our players. Something that we are proud of is the well known fact that we have lost a handful of 1st graders over the last 2 years and we have still put out competitive teams across all 3 grades. We are proud that we are in a position to promote from within and reward players that have put in the hard work to improve themselves as a player rather than going out and paying blokes to win a 4th tier amateur league.
It's a testament to the great work done by some very dedicated people over the year's and it's that great work and Infectious culture that will continue to reap rewards for many years to come.
Thanks for the compliment, I'm sure the Reserve grade boys will love being called first grade quality.
Fact is, there were zero "first grade" Garden Suburb boys in the reserves team. Garden Suburb boys turned up, Swansea didn't.
Score line should've been 6-7, if the boys didn't get complacent with their 4-0 lead.
Well which one is it??
Premy
04-08-2015, 01:38 PM
Well which one is it??
Of the top of my head we've probably had about 20 different blokes play 1st grade this year so technically GNY is correct.
(Insert sarcastic vioce)
Unfortunately 20 doesn't fit into 11 so for some funny reason we certain people play reserve grade, just this funny thing we do to field the strongest teams in 3 grades.
Edit: After a quick count we have had 25 players this year to have Start in 1st and an additional 3 who have had a start of the bench.
Of the top of my head we've probably had about 20 different blokes play 1st grade this year so technically GNY is correct.
(Insert sarcastic vioce)
Unfortunately 20 doesn't fit into 11 so for some funny reason we certain people play reserve grade, just this funny thing we do to field the strongest teams in 3 grades.
Edit: After a quick count we have had 25 players this year to have Start in 1st and an additional 3 who have had a start of the bench.
Yea it's the same at Barnsley when you're not performing well a lot of people tend to change between teams.
Just funny when you have 2 people from the one club say opposite things. Someone needs to point it out.
Jardelsimage
04-08-2015, 04:44 PM
have had it confirmed they were put in sporting pulse yesterday but hasn't updated. The relevant party is checking it again however. Looks like we miss out on that area of the promotion criteria.
good source told me that's what happened last year.....:lol:
Roundball Enthusiast
04-08-2015, 06:58 PM
Yea it's the same at Barnsley when you're not performing well a lot of people tend to change between teams.
Just funny when you have 2 people from the one club say opposite things. Someone needs to point it out.
Well it depends, the people in Reserve grade, only a handful would've started more than 5-6 games in first grade all season. Does this mean they're now only first graders and we're 'stacking' reserves? I don't think so.
Fact is, when we're short on numbers people go up, when people come back, they get dropped (some) while others have to earn their spot back.
Comments like gny's aren't required because they aren't true, to the full extent. We're not playing our first grade squad in reserves.
Well it depends, the people in Reserve grade, only a handful would've started more than 5-6 games in first grade all season. Does this mean they're now only first graders and we're 'stacking' reserves? I don't think so.
Fact is, when we're short on numbers people go up, when people come back, they get dropped (some) while others have to earn their spot back.
Comments like gny's aren't required because they aren't true, to the full extent. We're not playing our first grade squad in reserves.
I think he is getting what he wants from the comment.
Ranger-86
04-08-2015, 09:23 PM
Well it depends, the people in Reserve grade, only a handful would've started more than 5-6 games in first grade all season. Does this mean they're now only first graders and we're 'stacking' reserves? I don't think so.
Fact is, when we're short on numbers people go up, when people come back, they get dropped (some) while others have to earn their spot back.
Comments like gny's aren't required because they aren't true, to the full extent. We're not playing our first grade squad in reserves.
Facts are... If you have played 66% of your games in a higher grade you cant "start" in the lower grade. I cant see suburbs giving up on 1st grade 1/3 of the way through the season and stacking the lower grades, would be pretty dumb and honestly i cant see any club giving up on their 1st grade after 6 games.
What their bench looks like may be a different story, I wouldnt know, I dont play in this grade.
Premy
04-08-2015, 11:40 PM
I think he is getting what he wants from the comment.I agree he should probably concentrate on getting back in 1st grade himself so he can collect his paycheck.
Premy
05-08-2015, 07:02 AM
You are dreaming if you think it was close. It was a different level between both teams and Heidelberg took the foot off a long way from home and a game to play in Vic Sat. As current leaders, Edgeworth would be competitive against NSW Supa League teams (2nd Div Sydney). Thats not necessarily bad just fact that this NPL, despite NNSWF size is average at best compared to Vic, NSW, SA and QLD. Prycey would confirm WA too. We need to promote a vibrant local comp and give ambitious clubs a chance to reach higher. Generate more interest thus more money thus better quality.
So by your logic your Majesty, using a one off result as your measuring stick.
Does that mean that the NNSW NPL is on par with the A-League?
Gee my comment has really upset you haha,
Gee my comment has really upset you haha,
No you're wrong gny!
Bon is definitely a reserve grader. Don't know how he's managed to hang on to a first grade spot for so long
Gny you just need to relax and collect your winners bonus
This winning bonus? Have I missed something,
Also premy word is that bloke that cuts trees? Lumberjack or something stupid, is going back to the burbs next season?
Premy
05-08-2015, 08:42 AM
Gee my comment has really upset you haha,Upset? No, you did hit a nerve but. I just wanted to clear up that we haven't stacked our Reserve Grade, I'm all good now.
This winning bonus? Have I missed something,
Also premy word is that bloke that cuts trees? Lumberjack or something stupid, is going back to the burbs next season?Winning Bonus must only be for First Graders :tongue:
I've also heard those rumors, however at this stage they are just that. It's a little to early to be speculating about who will be a Kingfisher next year. Lets wait until at least October before we start talking about that.
I'm still unclear on this win bonus haha,
Have played and won in 1st grade thus season , just play for fun not money ;),
Lez and those blokes will be good in ressies they will get use to a top 4 finish haha
Roundball Enthusiast
05-08-2015, 09:34 AM
It's a little to early to be speculating about who will be a Kingfisher next year. Lets wait until at least October before we start talking about that.
Now now Premy, we all know you'll be a Kingfisher next year :lol:
No you're wrong gny!
Bon is definitely a reserve grader. Don't know how he's managed to hang on to a first grade spot for so long
Gny you just need to relax and collect your winners bonus
Don't know what this has got to do with me, no-one has mentioned my name in all this.. haha..
I have often wondered the same thing though, rolo.. :thumbsup:
Nou Camp
05-08-2015, 02:45 PM
Finally some ZPL talk instead of everyone worring about newfm....
Phoenix12
06-08-2015, 03:16 PM
Starting to tighten up at the top for a lot of teams - all grades seem to have multiple possibilities for final four...this weekend see's a lot of teams vying for crucial points.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
06-08-2015, 10:40 PM
New Lambton Eagles are holding their Old Boys Day at this weekends fixture v Garden Suburb. We hope to see a huge crowd at 'The Nest'!
Phoenix12
07-08-2015, 11:33 AM
New Lambton Eagles are holding their Old Boys Day at this weekends fixture v Garden Suburb. We hope to see a huge crowd at 'The Nest'!
Go the mighty eagles...." AArk AArk"...(only those who know the club victory song would understand that reference !).
Nou Camp
08-08-2015, 05:49 PM
Mayfield vs suns
1st 1-2
Res 6-2
3rds 1-1
Mayfield any report on your reserve grade keeper?
Did not look well
The Majestic Swan
08-08-2015, 05:58 PM
Swansea v uni. Up the mighty swans 2-1 win over the Newcastle university hipsters
Barnsley V Dudley
3rds 0-5
Res 1-1
First 3-4
shark attack
08-08-2015, 10:14 PM
3rds 2 - 2
resies 4 - 3 bero
1st 4 - 2 bero
Formely In Shape Allstar
08-08-2015, 11:12 PM
Any1 have the burbs and new lambton results
sammydog
08-08-2015, 11:21 PM
Garden Suburb v New Lambton
3rd: 2 - 0
resies: 0 - 1
1st: 1 - 1
Premy
09-08-2015, 05:32 AM
1st
Beresfield--------17---45
Swansea----------17---30
Cardiff--------------17---29
Suns-----------------17---28
Uni--------------------17---24
Mayfield------------17---24
New Lambton---17---24
Dudley---------------17---21
Garden Suburb--17---14
Barnsley------------17---2
Res
Dudley--------------17---35
Uni--------------------17---35
Mayfield------------17---31
Beresfeild----------17---28 (+4)
New Lambton----17---25 (+3)
Garden Suburb--17---25 (+2)
Barnsley-------------17---25 (-5)
Swansea------------17---14
Cardiff----------------16---14
Suns-------------------17---13
3rds
Uni---------------------17---38
Beresfield----------17---34
Dudley---------------17---30
Garden Suburb--17---29 (+2)
Mayfield-------------17---28 (+10)
Cardiff----------------17---24
New Lambton----17---23
Suns------------------17---17
Swansea-----------17---12
Barnsley------------17---7
Remaining Fixtures
Barnsley------------Suns
Beresfeild----------Dud
Cardiff---------------NLam
Dudley---------------Bers
Garden Suburb--Uni
Mayfield------------Swan
New Lambton---Car
Suns-----------------Barn
Swansea---------May
Uni-------------------GSub
Updated
Updated
1st Grade:
Swansea GD of +8 and Mayfield with a -3, Swansea are all but secured. Big game next weekend for Cardiff V Mayfield, must win for Mayfield as Cardiff can wrap up the top 4 with a win. Uni relying on a Draw or a win from Mayfield to keep their slim hopes alive.
Res Grade:
This one is going to be tight 4 teams vying for 2 remaining spots.
Suburb are now relying on results and finish with a tough task of beating Uni to have any chance, Mayfield can all but secure their spot with a win against Cardiff this weekend. Barnsley have winable but far from easy games against New Lambton and Suns to push Beresfield all the way who finish with a hard game against the table topping Dudley.
3rd Grade:
Also a tight one. Dudley mathematically aren't safe yet and have Beresfield in the last round to cement their finals spot. Suburb have a bigger task of cementing their spot by hosting Uni in the last game. A big game next weekend for Cardiff and Mayfield in this Grade also, as the winner will be able to make that last push, a draw here doesn't help either side although Mayfield may still be able to make it with a draw. However both Cardiff and Mayfield are relying on results going there way to make the finals.
Congrats to all those who have qualified already, commiserations to those who have missed out and good luck to those still with a shot.
Due to new lambton's awesome whinging ability and mates in the association Barnsley have been forced to forfeit their catch up game. (results already on sp)
howardyou
09-08-2015, 08:11 AM
Due to new lambton's awesome whinging ability and mates in the association Barnsley have been forced to forfeit their catch up game. (results already on sp)
Do you want to tell the truth or should I let everyone know what really happened?
Jardelsimage
09-08-2015, 08:30 AM
Do you want to tell the truth or should I let everyone know what really happened?
well don't keep us waiting, tell us what really happened then.....
Do you want to tell the truth or should I let everyone know what really happened?
Due to concerns for player safety due to ground conditions game was cancelled.
New lambton come out lunch time took photos and call head of association to come out and then fight there case to get the forfeit.
End of the day it's Park football and everyone of us have to work on Monday can't do that with broken bones..
howardyou
09-08-2015, 08:49 AM
well don't keep us waiting, tell us what really happened then.....
Well, after the game was surprisingly called off due to the apparent wet condition of the ground, our First Team coach and President went to inspect. They found that the field was quite dry and entirely playable.
Russell Henry from Newcastle Football also inspected the ground after we had been there.
Photos were taken as evidence of our claim and we made a phone call to Russell stating that we believed the game should have been played and would be making a formal complaint. He initially agreed with our observations, but stated that the issue would go through a formal process and parties would be informed of the decision and any rulings. We received word on Thursday or Friday that the ZPL board had ruled based on all of the information available that Barnsley did not make every effort to enable the match to proceed as required in the regulations. Therefore Barnsley forfeit the round. Quite simple.
No "mates in the association" as Donk so eloquently puts it. We just wanted to play the game on the day. We were left wondering why Barnsley didn't want the game to go ahead.... i guess there were a few things on that weekend.
Well, after the game was surprisingly called off due to the apparent wet condition of the ground, our First Team coach and President went to inspect. They found that the field was quite dry and entirely playable.
Russell Henry from Newcastle Football also inspected the ground after we had been there.
Photos were taken as evidence of our claim and we made a phone call to Russell stating that we believed the game should have been played and would be making a formal complaint. He initially agreed with our observations, but stated that the issue would go through a formal process and parties would be informed of the decision and any rulings. We received word on Thursday or Friday that the ZPL board had ruled based on all of the information available that Barnsley did not make every effort to enable the match to proceed as required in the regulations. Therefore Barnsley forfeit the round. Quite simple.
No "mates in the association" as Donk so eloquently puts it. We just wanted to play the game on the day. We were left wondering why Barnsley didn't want the game to go ahead.... i guess there were a few things on that weekend.
When you call him back on his personal phone and drag him away from his grand child's soccer game. I'm thinking would have to be some kind of "mates"
But guess when you mates like that and are concerned about the results if you can get an easy 3 points for all 3 grades to help with final chances why wouldn't you do it..
howardyou
09-08-2015, 09:12 AM
But guess when you mates like that and are concerned about the results if you can get an easy 3 points for all 3 grades to help with final chances why wouldn't you do it..
Yeah good one. Love a conspiracy as well. But that wasn't the case.
Yeah good one. Love a conspiracy as well. But that wasn't the case.
We went through the right processes rang association and had someone come out before cut off to look at ground said was fine to be called off due to concerns for player safety.
And like I said before because of MATES being head of the association it was changed over ruled or what ever you want to call it but rubbish decision none the less.
I can't think of any other reason for you guys to push so hard for forfeit other then easy points.
No other catch ups?
Free weekend to play it?
Feel free to point something out that I missed??
howardyou
09-08-2015, 09:39 AM
We went through the right processes rang association and had someone come out before cut off to look at ground said was fine to be called off due to concerns for player safety.
And like I said before because of MATES being head of the association it was changed over ruled or what ever you want to call it but rubbish decision none the less.
I can't think of any other reason for you guys to push so hard for forfeit other then easy points.
No other catch ups?
Free weekend to play it?
Feel free to point something out that I missed??
Keep going with the baseless accusations and you'll get yourself or your club in trouble. The only thing I know is that you broke the rules and are paying the penalty. The rules are there for this reason - for all clubs.
And whether there is a free weekend to play the game does not come into consideration. Maybe let the referees make the decision next time, if it was such a close thing to call off or not.
Keep going with the baseless accusations and you'll get yourself or your club in trouble. The only thing I know is that you broke the rules and are paying the penalty. The rules are there for this reason - for all clubs.
And whether there is a free weekend to play the game does not come into consideration. Maybe let the referees make the decision next time, if it was such a close thing to call off or not.
You'll give him a personal call to complain about me writing on a forum ha ha ha ha
We had someone have a look mate that's the whole reason for the disappointment that it was overruled.
The free weekend wasn't a consideration for it to be cancelled I was asking why you were pushing so hard for the forfeit other then now all 3 of your grades are pushing for finals.
Not saying you wouldn't have got results but anything could have happened. And it was crucial game for reserves
Shere Khan
09-08-2015, 12:22 PM
Well now that's interesting.
Cardiff were supposed to play Mayfield at Mayfield and exact same thing happened.
I'm not having a go at anyone other than Newcastle Football here because that is a massive precedent that they've just set.
Well now that's interesting.
Cardiff were supposed to play Mayfield at Mayfield and exact same thing happened.
I'm not having a go at anyone other than Newcastle Football here because that is a massive precedent that they've just set.
So is this game being played or is there an obscure rule that will cancel it.
Just play all washouts. Theres plenty of those catchup weekends
leftrightout
09-08-2015, 12:40 PM
Well now that's interesting.
Cardiff were supposed to play Mayfield at Mayfield and exact same thing happened.
I'm not having a go at anyone other than Newcastle Football here because that is a massive precedent that they've just set.
Very interesting... does anyone from mayfield know if their ground was inspected by newcastle football? if not it seems unfair to only inspected one club for a game off. Was there any other games off that weekend? from memory we had a bit of rain the thursday and friday.
Also interesting that newcastle football will attend the ground after the deadline to call a match and use hindsight for their decision. Its a bit inconclusive isn't it?
As you said, a precedent has been set with that one.
Well now that's interesting.
Cardiff were supposed to play Mayfield at Mayfield and exact same thing happened.
I'm not having a go at anyone other than Newcastle Football here because that is a massive precedent that they've just set.
Our all age and over 35s were cancelled same weekend at different grounds.
So if your interested it getting some easy points put in complaint. Im sure someone at new lambton can help you
Shere Khan
09-08-2015, 12:51 PM
Cardiff never had the ground inspected nor did we ring anyone. We seen the field ourselves and thought it was playable well and truly. We've played on worse.
As I said this is not about having a go at Mayfield its about the Barnsley situation and what came of it.
Does this now mean that if both teams turn up and there's a difference of opinion on the ground that Newcastle are called in. Even to overrule the refs?
Thomas477
09-08-2015, 03:58 PM
Easiest option is unless council calls it off, let the refs make the call.
true waterboy
09-08-2015, 04:23 PM
Easiest option is unless council calls it off, let the refs make the call.
I think it should just come down to common sense. I remember a game we had against jemond at their ground. The ground was clearly not fit for play with large areas of mud. Was only until after warm ups 5 min from kick off that refs decided not to allow play.
Isnt it better for an early decision to be made to not waste the efforts of players coaches and spectators.
Not getting into the specifics of this one example but wouldnt it have been better to play on the spare weekend rather than a midweek catch up tho.
Jardelsimage
09-08-2015, 08:58 PM
well well, well, what a conundrum we have here, this is not the first time a club has called a game of for whatever reason, legit or not and yes the Eagles as we all are not exempt from doing this at certain times. key-weddings, buck shows, etc etc....
The precedent has been set though when a game has been called within the rules...and then its called a forfeit by the powers that be......I hope Russel will come and inspect every ground in the future to ensure fair play is the norm, yes I have his number and will ring him on every washout, just to make sure.....
MUSSFC totally agree, how can rules change without notice.......oh sorry forgot about the finals qualifications this year but that's another story, 66% shit.
The Eagles feel your pain on the day, we had the same, thinking the grounds ok, but f#^k me, your telling the football community that you have never called a game when maybe you could have played ???? but to carry on this way, well just a little disappointed I am, and I go way back against the Eagles, was nearly one, except Lord Dudsa couldn't pull it off.......
Loads of respect for the Eagles, but I am probably the same as the rest at the moment, disappointed this path has taken...
Hotline
10-08-2015, 08:46 AM
Couldn't agree more Jardel... Maybe if there was no rain for a couple of weeks beforehand, the association could make some sort of investigation. But in this situation there was rain in the week leading up to the game, and there was other games called off on the same day. I believe the association needs to continue to trust the clubs to be honest with the decisions we make.
It is not too late to play this game. Maybe someone at the eagles could speak up and get this game played. No one wants a forfeit at this level, we're not playing for sheep stations ffs.
I hope common sense can prevail.
Couldn't agree more Jardel... Maybe if there was no rain for a couple of weeks beforehand, the association could make some sort of investigation. But in this situation there was rain in the week leading up to the game, and there was other games called off on the same day. I believe the association needs to continue to trust the clubs to be honest with the decisions we make.
It is not too late to play this game. Maybe someone at the eagles could speak up and get this game played. No one wants a forfeit at this level, we're not playing for sheep stations ffs.
I hope common sense can prevail.
You would like to think that could happen but I feel like it would be the same as arguing with the ref, whistle has been blown not going to change now.. Unfortunately
Very disappointing situation
RANGER09
10-08-2015, 09:18 AM
Wasnt there an email sent out by NF a few weeks ago asking clubs to let them know as early as possible about ground closures and if it looked like being closed they would help find an alternate ground so the round could be played where possible?
if this weekend is spare for washouts then why is the game called a forfeit when it has every chance of being played?
Like Hotline said common sense should prevail!
Phoenix12
10-08-2015, 09:49 AM
Swansea v uni. Up the mighty swans 2-1 win over the Newcastle university hipsters
Yeah...in first grade...2 - 1.. But the other grades were:
Thirds... 4 - 0 to Uni
Reserves....2 - 1 to Uni
Also there was not one person on the park sprouting a hipster beard !
Yeah...in first grade...2 - 1.. But the other grades were:
Thirds... 4 - 0 to Uni
Reserves....2 - 1 to Uni
Also there was not one person on the park sprouting a hipster beard !
How many top-knots though??
Retro Jet
10-08-2015, 10:24 AM
Yeah...in first grade...2 - 1.. But the other grades were:
Thirds... 4 - 0 to Uni
Reserves....2 - 1 to Uni
Also there was not one person on the park sprouting a hipster beard !
How many top-knots though??
I'd like to see YOU in a top-knot Bon.
:brrr:
The MF of all top-knots there :rof:
Phoenix12
10-08-2015, 10:27 AM
How many top-knots though??
LOL - The top knot....I didnt see any but I wish I had enough hair !
Truthfully though, Swansea firsts and reserves both played well....Their thirds team were not so good on this occasion...but the Uni thirds team have been quality this year, and dominated the ground.
I think Swansea have certainly gotten a lot better in the last two seasons....their quality of football is better and they now have the ability to scrape out a win, where in seasons past when you put a goal on them and they would get their heads down.
Its good to see clubs getting stronger.
Phoenix12
10-08-2015, 10:31 AM
Wasnt there an email sent out by NF a few weeks ago asking clubs to let them know as early as possible about ground closures and if it looked like being closed they would help find an alternate ground so the round could be played where possible?
if this weekend is spare for washouts then why is the game called a forfeit when it has every chance of being played?
Like Hotline said common sense should prevail!
I cant see why...if there is a spare weekend at the end of the season...why the games were called off ? Was there a cut off date for the games to be played or something ? Just doesn't seem to make sense if you have a cut off date, but then a spare round anyway... I think people were referring to "the rules"...what rules were they ?
leftrightout
10-08-2015, 11:04 AM
Are New Lambton likely to make semis? I thought they were around 6th or 7th so 3 points isn't really going to get them in there. Barnsley certainly don't seem like they have any reasons to call a game off, they are on 2 points after all! It just seems like both teams of players are missing out of a game of football for silly reasons.
Are New Lambton likely to make semis? I thought they were around 6th or 7th so 3 points isn't really going to get them in there. Barnsley certainly don't seem like they have any reasons to call a game off, they are on 2 points after all! It just seems like both teams of players are missing out of a game of football for silly reasons.
It put all 3 grades just outside finals chances. It certainly helped them.
But like I said before it was a crucial game for our reserve grade could have put us in finals not relying on results
Jardelsimage
10-08-2015, 02:04 PM
seems nothing will change, but as said before "the precedent" has now been set....bring on the wet weather....
who needs the big mans phone number....
So is the Barnsley v new lambton game going to get played? Orrrrr
oneeye
10-08-2015, 04:09 PM
Are New Lambton likely to make semis? I thought they were around 6th or 7th so 3 points isn't really going to get them in there. Barnsley certainly don't seem like they have any reasons to call a game off, they are on 2 points after all! It just seems like both teams of players are missing out of a game of football for silly reasons.
If you do the maths New lambton can still make the Semis in 1st grade.
The Majestic Swan
10-08-2015, 05:20 PM
Yeah...in first grade...2 - 1.. But the other grades were:
Thirds... 4 - 0 to Uni
Reserves....2 - 1 to Uni
Also there was not one person on the park sprouting a hipster beard !
Yes Uni did win the lower grade matches but hey winning third grade and reserve grade doesn't help you get promoted......winning first grade does and it seems like you guys come up a bit short there......maybe next time you should try get the boys to have their mocha lattes or whatever hipster drink you boys have just before the game, so you guys don't run out of steam before the end of the game......
Have a pleasant day... sincerely The Majestic Swan
Hotline
10-08-2015, 09:25 PM
Yes Uni did win the lower grade matches but hey winning third grade and reserve grade doesn't help you get promoted......winning first grade does and it seems like you guys come up a bit short there......maybe next time you should try get the boys to have their mocha lattes or whatever hipster drink you boys have just before the game, so you guys don't run out of steam before the end of the game......
Have a pleasant day... sincerely The Majestic Swan
Winning first grade doesn't help you get promoted either... just ask bero.
Jardelsimage
11-08-2015, 08:24 AM
Winning first grade doesn't help you get promoted either... just ask bero.
if they applied the other year they did, that's why the talk of Morissett going to 2hd keeps coming up.....
Premy
11-08-2015, 10:49 AM
Winning first grade doesn't help you get promoted either... just ask bero.
I wouldn't concern yourself with Majestic, I have it on good authority that he is in actual fact an ugly duckling.
Rumor has it that his gone in hiding after he heard in the wind that a certain Swan from just the other side of the bridge is after some of his little duckling brothers. Now his hiding in an unknown Nest waiting for the Old Swans to come to the pond next weekend for the big Swan Song.
The Majestic Swan
11-08-2015, 07:42 PM
I wouldn't concern yourself with Majestic, I have it on good authority that he is in actual fact an ugly duckling.
Rumor has it that his gone in hiding after he heard in the wind that a certain Swan from just the other side of the bridge is after some of his little duckling brothers. Now his hiding in an unknown Nest waiting for the Old Swans to come to the pond next weekend for the big Swan Song.
I am sorry to disappoint you Premy but your sources have got it all wrong. I have not been in hiding not yet, I have simply been on a bulking diet and caught deep in training as we charge to the finals. My diet has consisted of the tears of kingfishers and hipsters, I was able to collect many over the past two weeks so be warned I shall be a force to be reckoned with come old swan day and as we carry on deep into the final series........
Majestic Swan Signing Off.....
leftrightout
11-08-2015, 07:53 PM
Are any of the guys here New Lambton players or are they committee members (or both?)
Just curios to see what the opinion of a NL player is about the forfeit. Are they happy to not play the game and get 3 points even though they are long shots at semis. Or would you rather play the game? Because looking at the table and who has to play who on the run home, it just looks like this spare one is going to be a wasted weekend of no football for no reason and not even any huge gain to anyone?
Just curios to know personal preference
The Majestic Swan
11-08-2015, 09:15 PM
Winning first grade doesn't help you get promoted either... just ask bero.
In reply to your comment about Beresfield not get promoted. Bero were denied promotion due to a minor technicality.......There are already 2 teams in NewFm league that have Redneck/Hillbilly heritage, and there is simply not enough room in that certain competition to accommadate that many Rednecks.....
If Beresfield are desperate to be promoted maybe they need to contact their Hillbilly Brothers, Cessnock and Singo and demand a showdown.....This is where the Redneck games come into effect.
Some events that are held during the Redneck Games include:
The cigarette flip
Bobbing for pig's trotters
Seed spitting
Toilet seat throwing
Mud pit belly flop
Big-hair contest
Wet T-shirt contest
Armpit serenade
Bug zapping by spitball
Dumpster diving
Hubcap hurling
For each of the events, a trophy is awarded, a half crushed, empty mounted beer can.
Top 2 finishers get the right to play NewFm and loser is relegated to ZPL, until the next Redneck games......
Are any of the guys here New Lambton players or are they committee members (or both?)
Just curios to see what the opinion of a NL player is about the forfeit. Are they happy to not play the game and get 3 points even though they are long shots at semis. Or would you rather play the game? Because looking at the table and who has to play who on the run home, it just looks like this spare one is going to be a wasted weekend of no football for no reason and not even any huge gain to anyone?
Just curios to know personal preference
If there is you won't get a comment. Think their happy with them selves that they got the easy points..
Roundball Enthusiast
11-08-2015, 11:59 PM
In reply to your comment about Beresfield not get promoted. Bero were denied promotion due to a minor technicality.......There are already 2 teams in NewFm league that have Redneck/Hillbilly heritage, and there is simply not enough room in that certain competition to accommadate that many Rednecks.....
If Beresfield are desperate to be promoted maybe they need to contact their Hillbilly Brothers, Cessnock and Singo and demand a showdown.....This is where the Redneck games come into effect.
Some events that are held during the Redneck Games include:
The cigarette flip
Bobbing for pig's trotters
Seed spitting
Toilet seat throwing
Mud pit belly flop
Big-hair contest
Wet T-shirt contest
Armpit serenade
Bug zapping by spitball
Dumpster diving
Hubcap hurling
For each of the events, a trophy is awarded, a half crushed, empty mounted beer can.
Top 2 finishers get the right to play NewFm and loser is relegated to ZPL, until the next Redneck games......
ffs I thought you had signed off already... still dribbling.. :lol:
Premy
12-08-2015, 12:05 AM
I am sorry to disappoint you Premy but your sources have got it all wrong. I have not been in hiding not yet, I have simply been on a bulking diet and caught deep in training as we charge to the finals. My diet has consisted of the tears of kingfishers and hipsters, I was able to collect many over the past two weeks so be warned I shall be a force to be reckoned with come old swan day and as we carry on deep into the final series........
Majestic Swan Signing Off.....
It seems that my sources are right on the mark little duckling. Not only are you in hiding but you are quivering into a squawking mess.
You seem to have fallen into the same trap as all the other shredders bulking for the big Swan Song and you've forgotten about your base. Whilst your little duck wings have bulked up you've neglected those skinny little duck legs and rumor has it you more resemble a Flamingo(don't forget leg day). Remember those little legs are usually the one's on the BBQ or in the Canteen, who is going to keep the Old Swans hydrated at the Swan Song if all you are doing is sunning those Wings?
idontwannaplaywithhowey
12-08-2015, 01:54 PM
Are any of the guys here New Lambton players or are they committee members (or both?)
Just curios to see what the opinion of a NL player is about the forfeit. Are they happy to not play the game and get 3 points even though they are long shots at semis. Or would you rather play the game? Because looking at the table and who has to play who on the run home, it just looks like this spare one is going to be a wasted weekend of no football for no reason and not even any huge gain to anyone?
Just curios to know personal preference
I am a member of the committee mate. I haven't responded previously as I didn't feel there was a great deal of point as it would only have inflamed the situation ( and may still do). I don't play for the club so I couldn't give you a player perspective, but from a committee point of view it was decided that we should officially raise our concerns related to the postponement of the fixture. It has been suggested on here that the ground was close to unplayable and our complaints about the postponement were unwarranted. If the ground was wet/ dangerous in any way then I would be inclined to agree with the majority on this site who have raised concerns about the decision making processes for washouts. The situation was however, that some of our committee inspected the Barnsley ground and this was not the case. The reality was that the pitch was dry ( to the point that the dirt areas on the pitch were dust). As I said, it was following this that our committee felt it reasonable to question why the match wasn't played.Many have stuck the boot in to our club over the past week, but you would have to ask Barnsley as to the reason the match was cancelled when this was the case.
I'm sure this post will attract many negative comments but I hope that this has answered your question. If anyone has anything constructive to say/ ask on this topic please feel free to email me (you can find my contact details on sporting pulse- Michael Jordan- new Lambton secretary). I will also be in attendance at the Newcastle Football meeting next week if anybody wishes to have a civilised conversation in person.I may not respond on here as I think I prefer to steer clear of the negativity on this forum where possible.
Phoenix12
12-08-2015, 02:06 PM
Winning first grade doesn't help you get promoted either... just ask bero.
LOL...exactly what I was thinking...... All the talk going on in this forum previously and the "Majestic Swan" obviously has a few issues interpreting the information.... Probably should attend University, or have a few lattes and grow a beard and trim it to perfection.
Phoenix12
12-08-2015, 02:12 PM
I am a member of the committee mate. I haven't responded previously as I didn't feel there was a great deal of point as it would only have inflamed the situation ( and may still do). I don't play for the club so I couldn't give you a player perspective, but from a committee point of view it was decided that we should officially raise our concerns related to the postponement of the fixture. It has been suggested on here that the ground was close to unplayable and our complaints about the postponement were unwarranted. If the ground was wet/ dangerous in any way then I would be inclined to agree with the majority on this site who have raised concerns about the decision making processes for washouts. The situation was however, that some of our committee inspected the Barnsley ground and this was not the case. The reality was that the pitch was dry ( to the point that the dirt areas on the pitch were dust). As I said, it was following this that our committee felt it reasonable to question why the match wasn't played.Many have stuck the boot in to our club over the past week, but you would have to ask Barnsley as to the reason the match was cancelled when this was the case.
I'm sure this post will attract many negative comments but I hope that this has answered your question. If anyone has anything constructive to say/ ask on this topic please feel free to email me (you can find my contact details on sporting pulse- Michael Jordan- new Lambton secretary). I will also be in attendance at the Newcastle Football meeting next week if anybody wishes to have a civilised conversation in person.I may not respond on here as I think I prefer to steer clear of the negativity on this forum where possible.
Well said Jordo. Wonder of anyone will take you up on your offer ?
I am a member of the committee mate. I haven't responded previously as I didn't feel there was a great deal of point as it would only have inflamed the situation ( and may still do). I don't play for the club so I couldn't give you a player perspective, but from a committee point of view it was decided that we should officially raise our concerns related to the postponement of the fixture. It has been suggested on here that the ground was close to unplayable and our complaints about the postponement were unwarranted. If the ground was wet/ dangerous in any way then I would be inclined to agree with the majority on this site who have raised concerns about the decision making processes for washouts. The situation was however, that some of our committee inspected the Barnsley ground and this was not the case. The reality was that the pitch was dry ( to the point that the dirt areas on the pitch were dust). As I said, it was following this that our committee felt it reasonable to question why the match wasn't played.Many have stuck the boot in to our club over the past week, but you would have to ask Barnsley as to the reason the match was cancelled when this was the case.
I'm sure this post will attract many negative comments but I hope that this has answered your question. If anyone has anything constructive to say/ ask on this topic please feel free to email me (you can find my contact details on sporting pulse- Michael Jordan- new Lambton secretary). I will also be in attendance at the Newcastle Football meeting next week if anybody wishes to have a civilised conversation in person.I may not respond on here as I think I prefer to steer clear of the negativity on this forum where possible.
The whole ground was dry? Or just patches? Like all grounds our ground can be dry in parts and holding water in other places.
We had a player slip into a hole on the Tuesday night training and fracture his ankle. So think with the rain the rest of that week and the condition of the field our concerns for the players was warranted.
Like I said before everyone has to work on Monday our team and yours.?
I think that most people on here concerns were it wasn't only your committee members but the head of the association aswel. And that other clubs have put in complaints before and never got the result that you guys did.
leftrightout
12-08-2015, 03:12 PM
I am a member of the committee mate. I haven't responded previously as I didn't feel there was a great deal of point as it would only have inflamed the situation ( and may still do). I don't play for the club so I couldn't give you a player perspective, but from a committee point of view it was decided that we should officially raise our concerns related to the postponement of the fixture. It has been suggested on here that the ground was close to unplayable and our complaints about the postponement were unwarranted. If the ground was wet/ dangerous in any way then I would be inclined to agree with the majority on this site who have raised concerns about the decision making processes for washouts. The situation was however, that some of our committee inspected the Barnsley ground and this was not the case. The reality was that the pitch was dry ( to the point that the dirt areas on the pitch were dust). As I said, it was following this that our committee felt it reasonable to question why the match wasn't played.Many have stuck the boot in to our club over the past week, but you would have to ask Barnsley as to the reason the match was cancelled when this was the case.
I'm sure this post will attract many negative comments but I hope that this has answered your question. If anyone has anything constructive to say/ ask on this topic please feel free to email me (you can find my contact details on sporting pulse- Michael Jordan- new Lambton secretary). I will also be in attendance at the Newcastle Football meeting next week if anybody wishes to have a civilised conversation in person.I may not respond on here as I think I prefer to steer clear of the negativity on this forum where possible.
Fair that you don't want to respond on here... i wouldn't expect anything formal from a club man like yourself on here, this is certainly not the place to make statements from the club.
I was more just interested in a players feelings towards it since they are the ones who miss playing the game. Obviously Donk is a barnsley player or supporter who is unhappy to miss a game, i was wondering how your players were feeling.
So really, you didn't answer my question because my question wasn't really directed to you.
Also, I had no intention of having a go at anyone with my post i was just interested as i cant really recall this happening in a zone league before?
I am a member of the committee mate. I haven't responded previously as I didn't feel there was a great deal of point as it would only have inflamed the situation ( and may still do). I don't play for the club so I couldn't give you a player perspective, but from a committee point of view it was decided that we should officially raise our concerns related to the postponement of the fixture. It has been suggested on here that the ground was close to unplayable and our complaints about the postponement were unwarranted. If the ground was wet/ dangerous in any way then I would be inclined to agree with the majority on this site who have raised concerns about the decision making processes for washouts. The situation was however, that some of our committee inspected the Barnsley ground and this was not the case. The reality was that the pitch was dry ( to the point that the dirt areas on the pitch were dust). As I said, it was following this that our committee felt it reasonable to question why the match wasn't played.Many have stuck the boot in to our club over the past week, but you would have to ask Barnsley as to the reason the match was cancelled when this was the case.
I'm sure this post will attract many negative comments but I hope that this has answered your question. If anyone has anything constructive to say/ ask on this topic please feel free to email me (you can find my contact details on sporting pulse- Michael Jordan- new Lambton secretary). I will also be in attendance at the Newcastle Football meeting next week if anybody wishes to have a civilised conversation in person.I may not respond on here as I think I prefer to steer clear of the negativity on this forum where possible.
Good to see someone had the guts to get on here and post that reply. I'll agree with the fact Barnsley have a case to answer, what you haven't taken into account is the negative effect it has on every other club vying for a finals birth! It's actually disgusting that firstly Newcastle Football has allowed this to happen, and secondly you blokes actually took the time to go out to Barnsley knowing full well that you could possibly exploit the situation. Newcastle Football certainly has a case to answer! And if by some miracle occurs and New Lambton get into the Finals you can expect some massive outrage.
My Summary both teams are in the wrong, But the NLE are the villains because they exploited a BS rule! Ohh and NF are a joke!
howardyou
12-08-2015, 03:59 PM
Are any of the guys here New Lambton players or are they committee members (or both?)
Just curios to see what the opinion of a NL player is about the forfeit. Are they happy to not play the game and get 3 points even though they are long shots at semis. Or would you rather play the game? Because looking at the table and who has to play who on the run home, it just looks like this spare one is going to be a wasted weekend of no football for no reason and not even any huge gain to anyone?
Just curios to know personal preference
I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.
To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.
Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.
Fair that you don't want to respond on here... i wouldn't expect anything formal from a club man like yourself on here, this is certainly not the place to make statements from the club.
I was more just interested in a players feelings towards it since they are the ones who miss playing the game. Obviously Donk is a barnsley player or supporter who is unhappy to miss a game, i was wondering how your players were feeling.
So really, you didn't answer my question because my question wasn't really directed to you.
Also, I had no intention of having a go at anyone with my post i was just interested as i cant really recall this happening in a zone league before?
Player and I'm disappointed for the fact, in an under performing club our reserve grade squad after getting chopped and change every week to try sort out first grade have started to get consistent players towards end of year and producing results to get that game completely taken from you like that is disheartening for them..
I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.
To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.
Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.
Please tell us how it would benefit us. We are last by a mile in first and at that stage already couldn't change the last place finish..
Reserve our only shot if we were short players wouldn't we just stack it to get the result we needed not postpone?? Cos the other grade results wouldn't have matter..
So please tell me how it would have?
I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.
To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.
Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.In the event of a wash out like this, you can guarantee that the other club will front to check it out. If suss, why cant someone from the joint zones adjudicate?
Yes they might need to set the alarm but why not? What about the referees association being the ones who call out anything that isnt deemed unplayable 24 hrs prior?? As for ZPL improving, I am afraid that it is a shade on the comp from the late 90s and early 2000s. Even earlier. Some of Reserve Grade sides in those days would skin some current 1sts.
Premy
12-08-2015, 06:36 PM
It's not the first time something like this has happened at Barnsley.
About 3 years ago 2 of my younger cousin were in an odd predicament, both of them were playing at Barnsley but in different age groups.
What was odd about that day was 1 cousin game was called of whilst the other game was still on at the same venue. Turns out Barnsley closed just the one field which from what I was told was quite playable. That said field was also the same field that the ZL side plays on and for a funny coincidence someone from the ZL side got Married that weekend.
It's not the first time something like this has happened at Barnsley.
About 3 years ago 2 of my younger cousin were in an odd predicament, both of them were playing at Barnsley but in different age groups.
What was odd about that day was 1 cousin game was called of whilst the other game was still on at the same venue. Turns out Barnsley closed just the one field which from what I was told was quite playable. That said field was also the same field that the ZL side plays on and for a funny coincidence someone from the ZL side got Married that weekend.
That's funny since juniors haven't played on our field till this yr
idontwannaplaywithhowey
12-08-2015, 06:58 PM
Mate, I couldn't comment as to why the action was taken in this instance and not in previous times when a complaint has been made. I know Mayfield mentioned on here they had previously taken the exact same action as us and there was a different outcome.i dont know if there has been a rule change since that occurred, but it is definitely a valid question for Newcastle Football. You've mentioned you feel we hold some sway with newcastle Football, but I can categorically state that we don't, we've had plenty of barneys with them over the years and don't see we have ever received treatment that was different to any other club. You are of course entitled to your view and I wouldn't expect my perspective to change yours, but I can only tell you what I know.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
12-08-2015, 07:15 PM
Fair that you don't want to respond on here... i wouldn't expect anything formal from a club man like yourself on here, this is certainly not the place to make statements from the club.
I was more just interested in a players feelings towards it since they are the ones who miss playing the game. Obviously Donk is a barnsley player or supporter who is unhappy to miss a game, i was wondering how your players were feeling.
So really, you didn't answer my question because my question wasn't really directed to you.
Also, I had no intention of having a go at anyone with my post i was just interested as i cant really recall this happening in a zone league before?
Fair call mate. That certainly wasn't an official club statement either, just my personal viewpoint.
Phoenix12
13-08-2015, 09:23 AM
I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.
And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.
The Magician
13-08-2015, 10:30 AM
I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.
And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.
Adamstown Oval fiasco was all NCC, they have a clause that a sports team participating in the premier competition for their sport can have exclusive and overruling rights over the venue if that venue was the 'home' ground and therefore can move on any lower graded teams sharing that field if they get promoted or do not wish to share. It was always going to happen when Adamstown were promoted and anyone thinking otherwise needs an uppercut. NF were out of their jurisdiction... Anyways... NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park.
I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.
And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.
Our ground especially could be called off in sunny weather it's dreadful.
Pretty sure getting the head out to inspect our group would mean there is something there. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't come out if I rang him, he'd be asking where I got his number from.
As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.
Having to be 50/50 big call if there is one part of the ground you feel is unplayable that should be enough specially for safety of the players.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
13-08-2015, 11:18 AM
Our ground especially could be called off in sunny weather it's dreadful.
Pretty sure getting the head out to inspect our group would mean there is something there. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't come out if I rang him, he'd be asking where I got his number from.
Again I don't expect to change your viewpoint, but all clubs have the contact numbers of Newcastle football staff.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
13-08-2015, 11:22 AM
Adamstown Oval fiasco was all NCC, they have a clause that a sports team participating in the premier competition for their sport can have exclusive and overruling rights over the venue if that venue was the 'home' ground and therefore can move on any lower graded teams sharing that field if they get promoted or do not wish to share. It was always going to happen when Adamstown were promoted and anyone thinking otherwise needs an uppercut. NF were out of their jurisdiction... Anyways... NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park.
Is that a suggestion that we have 'mates' at NCC too? We weren't actually aware that any upgrades were happening at Alder Park, my understanding was that the lobbying came from the athletics club that also use the field. If we had any sway with the council we would have at least requested a facility with more than 1 public toilet.
You are 100% correct on the Adamstown oval situation though, once rosebuds got promoted to the NPL it was likely we would get moved on. Our point of contention was that we attempted to clarify the situation with NCC for a number of months ( to see where we would be moved to) and were only told a couple of weeks out from the start of the season. All in the past though, we are working towards improving alder park ( we all know it is currently shithouse) with our own fundraising ( nothing from NCC ).
leftrightout
13-08-2015, 12:24 PM
Is that a suggestion that we have 'mates' at NCC too? We weren't actually aware that any upgrades were happening at Alder Park, my understanding was that the lobbying came from the athletics club that also use the field. If we had any sway with the council we would have at least requested a facility with more than 1 public toilet.
You are 100% correct on the Adamstown oval situation though, once rosebuds got promoted to the NPL it was likely we would get moved on. Our point of contention was that we attempted to clarify the situation with NCC for a number of months ( to see where we would be moved to) and were only told a couple of weeks out from the start of the season. All in the past though, we are working towards improving alder park ( we all know it is currently shithouse) with our own fundraising ( nothing from NCC ).
While you are at it with your connections, can you have a word to Mr Abbott about marriage equality please?
But seriously, obviously barnsley feel hard done by and new lambton feel the opposite. I think bagging either club shouldn't happen, its a difference of opinion that's all done now anyway. I know people in both clubs and they are all great blokes, i cant imagine either club trying to cheat the system, its just an unfortunate circumstance.
Lets face it, its ZPL everyone just wants to play football.
In the end, my personal opinion is that the ruling is a bit harsh on barnsley but i think its time to move on now.
Lofty
13-08-2015, 12:43 PM
Go the Suns :popcorn:
Gentlemen, how are the leading goal scorers tallying up for each club?
Always quite fascinated to see who acquires the theoretical ZPL Golden Boot for this season
Beresfield First Grade far surpasses any other team on 65 goals this season.
Gentlemen, how are the leading goal scorers tallying up for each club?
Always quite fascinated to see who acquires the theoretical ZPL Golden Boot for this season
Beresfield First Grade far surpasses any other team on 65 goals this season.
I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:
I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:
I think top scorer for our club is on like 5 or 6 ha ha ha
Phoenix12
13-08-2015, 02:20 PM
I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:
23...thats a great bag ! Fair dinkum I am happy with 1 or 2 a season !
Phoenix12
13-08-2015, 02:29 PM
Fair enough...I wouldnt call it a renovation though...more like a gesture of appeasement.
It did bring the level of the facilities up a notch.... Unfortunately teams cant play the game in the sheds, and I am sure the Eagles would have preferred some grass to play on instead of dirt.
Anyway, good banter....and I would still like to see the photos of the 50/50 ground !
Shere Khan
13-08-2015, 02:39 PM
Lawless would have to have a few at Bero. Cody at Cardiff had 12 at the halfway mark and doesn't play till last game of the season.
Rocko
13-08-2015, 05:01 PM
Player and I'm disappointed for the fact, in an under performing club our reserve grade squad after getting chopped and change every week to try sort out first grade have started to get consistent players towards end of year and producing results to get that game completely taken from you like that is disheartening for them..
Enjoy ZL1.
Jardelsimage
13-08-2015, 07:07 PM
hope everyone has there card tally in check, question was asked why letters are not forthcoming like previous years, answer is "it is the clubs responsibility to keep track of yellow and red card tallies throughout the year, letters are sent for reds as they come in, but yellows need to be mainly policed by clubs"
so if you have been waiting for letters before standing players down, lookout.....they are working with new database system and should be ready for a cross check shortly
I think lawlo is on 15 or so, but did miss pretty much the first half of the season
mussfc
13-08-2015, 07:27 PM
hope everyone has there card tally in check, question was asked why letters are not forthcoming like previous years, answer is "it is the clubs responsibility to keep track of yellow and red card tallies throughout the year, letters are sent for reds as they come in, but yellows need to be mainly policed by clubs"
so if you have been waiting for letters before standing players down, lookout.....they are working with new database system and should be ready for a cross check shortly
Yep
Got a sanction notice today for a player when his last yellow card was in round 9 as he has been injured, but apparently that is where they are only up to with entering cards.
Should make it interesting next week as its a pretty big weekend across all Zone Comps !!
Enjoy ZL1.
Shit yea can't wait..
Good call might of hit a nerve 10 weeks ago when realised we would go down ha ha ha ha
Premy
13-08-2015, 09:40 PM
Samwise has 23, I believe Bevo from Swansea is in 2nd with 19. Oh and Premy has 1 :tongue:
Is that a suggestion that we have 'mates' at NCC too? We weren't actually aware that any upgrades were happening at Alder Park, my understanding was that the lobbying came from the athletics club that also use the field. If we had any sway with the council we would have at least requested a facility with more than 1 public toilet.
You are 100% correct on the Adamstown oval situation though, once rosebuds got promoted to the NPL it was likely we would get moved on. Our point of contention was that we attempted to clarify the situation with NCC for a number of months ( to see where we would be moved to) and were only told a couple of weeks out from the start of the season. All in the past though, we are working towards improving alder park ( we all know it is currently shithouse) with our own fundraising ( nothing from NCC ).
What is the new building at Alder Pk going to contain? Is it going to be more beneficial for the football club or will the Aths take it?
idontwannaplaywithhowey
14-08-2015, 02:48 PM
What is the new building at Alder Pk going to contain? Is it going to be more beneficial for the football club or will the Aths take it?
No new building mate, we were discussing the 'renovation' that occurred before the start of last year. Basically they put a lick of paint on the old sheds that were there, removed some public toilets and put in a canteen.
We are trying to source grant money etc to work on other aspects of the ground, but it will be a slow process as obviously there is a lot of work that needs to be done.
Phoenix12
14-08-2015, 03:27 PM
No new building mate, we were discussing the 'renovation' that occurred before the start of last year. Basically they put a lick of paint on the old sheds that were there, removed some public toilets and put in a canteen.
We are trying to source grant money etc to work on other aspects of the ground, but it will be a slow process as obviously there is a lot of work that needs to be done.
And that.....along with this great quote from The magician "NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park"..... Is exactly what I was thinking Jordo.....
A Few hundred thousand ! Fair dinkum...they must pay those council blokes really really great wages !
Renovation ! what a piss take.....
idontwannaplaywithhowey
14-08-2015, 04:48 PM
And that.....along with this great quote from The magician "NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park"..... Is exactly what I was thinking Jordo.....
A Few hundred thousand ! Fair dinkum...they must pay those council blokes really really great wages !
Renovation ! what a piss take.....
The sad things is I'm pretty sure it did cost that much. Obviously not value for money but that's the way things work in the local government arena isn't it.
Nou Camp
14-08-2015, 05:18 PM
2 years ago the council spent $150k at Connolly park
All we got was a redone canteen and some extra space
Probably only worth $50k max worth of work done
Cardiff V Mayfield tomorrow if Cardiff wins it secures the top four before last round only thing that will change is who finishes where..
Jardelsimage
15-08-2015, 07:56 AM
Cardiff V Mayfield tomorrow if Cardiff wins it secures the top four before last round only thing that will change is who finishes where..
go the tigers:brrr:
bjquick
15-08-2015, 01:57 PM
Hypothetical question, what would barnsley do today if there was a catch up match with New lambton? Today is more wet than the week it got washed out but they also have all their players available.
go the tigers:brrr:
Tigers 4-0
Bulldogs 1962
15-08-2015, 09:28 PM
Hypothetical question, what would barnsley do today if there was a catch up match with New lambton? Today is more wet than the week it got washed out but they also have all their players available.
Wouldn't have any players available, had a club organised social day at one of our sponsors which wouldn't have been able to go ahead, just another reason supporting the fact that we didn't want to wash it out
Heskey2
16-08-2015, 02:58 AM
#tigers2016
Heskey2
16-08-2015, 03:01 AM
Majestic swan is dumb
Heskey2
16-08-2015, 03:02 AM
Swans are not my favourite team
Premy
16-08-2015, 07:44 AM
Someone keyboard warrior got on the turps last night and decided to join the forum.
I wonder if they are a Green Tiger or an Orange Tiger.
Any how they're still just a big cat.
Jardelsimage
16-08-2015, 07:53 AM
Someone keyboard warrior got on the turps last night and decided to join the forum.
I wonder if they are a Green Tiger or an Orange Tiger.
semi's set then, now all we need is the final order, I think it will stay as.........
30---Swansea v Mayfield 33
29---Tigers v New Lambton 32
28---Suns v Barnsley 31
only gripe is why we not playing final round on the same day, used to happen......
Premy
16-08-2015, 08:28 AM
semi's set then, now all we need is the final order, I think it will stay as.........
30---Swansea v Mayfield 33
29---Tigers v New Lambton 32
28---Suns v Barnsley 31
only gripe is why we not playing final round on the same day, used to happen......
I would have to agree, I can't see any of the top four being beaten in the last round.
Also agree on the simultaneous last round, I guess that's up to NF.
Premy
16-08-2015, 08:40 AM
1st
Beresfield--------17---45
Swansea----------17---30
Cardiff--------------17---29
Suns-----------------17---28
Uni--------------------17---24
Mayfield------------17---24
New Lambton---17---24
Dudley---------------17---21
Garden Suburb--17---14
Barnsley------------17---2
Res
Dudley--------------17---35 (+22)
Uni--------------------17---35 (+14)
Mayfield------------17---31
Beresfeild----------17---28 (+4)
New Lambton----17---25 (+3)
Garden Suburb--17---25 (+2)
Barnsley-------------17---25 (-5)
Swansea------------17---14
Cardiff----------------16---14
Suns-------------------17---13
3rds
Uni---------------------17---38
Beresfield----------17---34
Dudley---------------17---30
Garden Suburb--17---29 (+2)
Mayfield-------------17---28 (+10)
Cardiff----------------17---24
New Lambton----17---23
Suns------------------17---17
Swansea-----------17---12
Barnsley------------17---7
Remaining Fixtures
Barnsley------------Suns
Beresfeild----------Dud
Cardiff---------------NLam
Dudley---------------Bers
Garden Suburb--Uni
Mayfield------------Swan
New Lambton---Car
Suns-----------------Barn
Swansea---------May
Uni-------------------GSub
Updated
Wilso8948
16-08-2015, 10:53 AM
Forfeit*
You probs don't know how to read anyway so I don't know why I'm wasting my time typing
Did he just reply to himself? Dats madddd
leftrightout
17-08-2015, 08:22 AM
You wonder whats with the keyboard warriors telling Barnlsey to "enjoy league 1" as if they are going down into a league which is no good and going from a league that they have had such an enjoyable time in.... Look at what they did this season, 2 points... looks so enjoyable to me hahaha
I think even Barnsley people will agree they need to go down to get their groove back and no doubt they will enjoy football a bit more with some results. Anyone that has watched or played against them this season will know that they might not have results but they have made teams work hard to get over them, especially in the back half of this year. Depending on what players they keep/lose/gain i think they will be very strong in league 1.
You wonder whats with the keyboard warriors telling Barnlsey to "enjoy league 1" as if they are going down into a league which is no good and going from a league that they have had such an enjoyable time in.... Look at what they did this season, 2 points... looks so enjoyable to me hahaha
I think even Barnsley people will agree they need to go down to get their groove back and no doubt they will enjoy football a bit more with some results. Anyone that has watched or played against them this season will know that they might not have results but they have made teams work hard to get over them, especially in the back half of this year. Depending on what players they keep/lose/gain i think they will be very strong in league 1.
Well said mate.. Very true..
pagey85
17-08-2015, 01:13 PM
You wonder whats with the keyboard warriors telling Barnlsey to "enjoy league 1" as if they are going down into a league which is no good and going from a league that they have had such an enjoyable time in.... Look at what they did this season, 2 points... looks so enjoyable to me hahaha
I think even Barnsley people will agree they need to go down to get their groove back and no doubt they will enjoy football a bit more with some results. Anyone that has watched or played against them this season will know that they might not have results but they have made teams work hard to get over them, especially in the back half of this year. Depending on what players they keep/lose/gain i think they will be very strong in league 1.
yes we agree
90% of the club agree
very well said and thanks for the input.
as for people saying we called our game against NL off because of player numbers, i think we had more available that weekend than we have for most of the season.
most of the boys that were in melbourne were all flying home to play.
You wonder whats with the keyboard warriors telling Barnlsey to "enjoy league 1" as if they are going down into a league which is no good and going from a league that they have had such an enjoyable time in.... Look at what they did this season, 2 points... looks so enjoyable to me hahaha
I think even Barnsley people will agree they need to go down to get their groove back and no doubt they will enjoy football a bit more with some results. Anyone that has watched or played against them this season will know that they might not have results but they have made teams work hard to get over them, especially in the back half of this year. Depending on what players they keep/lose/gain i think they will be very strong in league 1.
Couldn't agree more..
Rocko
17-08-2015, 01:46 PM
Did you not have you drainage done at Barnsley last year?
Phoenix12
17-08-2015, 04:13 PM
The sad things is I'm pretty sure it did cost that much. Obviously not value for money but that's the way things work in the local government arena isn't it.
Really...bloody hell...I need to go and sub contract to council because that's an absolute rort !
I work for a construction company...does anyone have any contacts !
Premy
17-08-2015, 04:32 PM
Really...bloody hell...I need to go and sub contract to council because that's an absolute rort !
I work for a construction company...does anyone have any contacts !
That's a whole different kettle of fish, government contracts you have to jump through that many hoops that basically only big firms can meet the criteria. So essentially there is s only 4-5 contractors that are the preferred tenders lending to inflation on quotes and poor quality of work. We could be here all year talking about that.
Jardelsimage
17-08-2015, 04:49 PM
back to the football boys, lower grades are still wide open, this is my guess for the final spots.
reggies
dud -38
uni--36
may-34
N/L --28
3rds
uni-41
bero-35
dud-31
may-31
this as said earlier would make great theatre if all played on the same day, shame its not.....sorry to my mates up the hill, just think it might be to much to ask, defeating the top team in Uni, I do hope i'm wrong thou....good luck to all
howardyou
17-08-2015, 07:35 PM
That's a whole different kettle of fish, government contracts you have to jump through that many hoops that basically only big firms can meet the criteria. So essentially there is s only 4-5 contractors that are the preferred tenders lending to inflation on quotes and poor quality of work. We could be here all year talking about that.
Council construction contracts are open tenders that are assessed based on "value for money". The cheapest always wins. I've won a few and lost plenty.
Phoenix12
18-08-2015, 09:22 AM
back to the football boys, lower grades are still wide open, this is my guess for the final spots.
reggies
dud -38
uni--36
may-34
N/L --28
3rds
uni-41
bero-35
dud-31
may-31
this as said earlier would make great theatre if all played on the same day, shame its not.....sorry to my mates up the hill, just think it might be to much to ask, defeating the top team in Uni, I do hope i'm wrong thou....good luck to all
My picks....
Reserves
Uni 38
Dudley 36
Mayfield 34
Beresfield 29
Thirds
Uni 41
Beresfield 37
Mayfield 31
Dudley 30
footballfan
19-08-2015, 08:18 PM
Anyone like to pick who will make the grandfinal in first grade seeing the top 4 is decided?
leftrightout
20-08-2015, 08:39 AM
Anyone like to pick who will make the grandfinal in first grade seeing the top 4 is decided?
I think.....
1st - Bero vs Swansea
Res - Dudley vs Uni
3rd - Uni vs Bero
Frodo
20-08-2015, 02:13 PM
Anyone like to pick who will make the grandfinal in first grade seeing the top 4 is decided?
Firsts - Bero vs Cardiff
Ressies - Uni vs Dudley
Turds - Uni vs Suburbs
First: Beresfield vs Cardiff
Reserves: - Dudley vs University
Thirds: University vs Dudley
Phoenix12
20-08-2015, 03:09 PM
Anyone like to pick who will make the grandfinal in first grade seeing the top 4 is decided?
No one wants to bet on Beresfield not making it...... so:
1sts
SWansea V Cardiff
Res
Uni v Dudley
Thirds
Uni v Dudley
You never know.... (but I wouldnt bet on it !)
Lofty
21-08-2015, 07:30 PM
First grade is still not set in stone with positions 2-4 not confirmed. No one has backed the Suns to go anywhere, but with 6 wins and just 1 loss in past 7 matches - beating both Swansea and Cardiff away from home during those games. I wouldn't be writing anyone off at this stage. Although come Saturday afternoon things will be a lot clearer.
Anyway, I hope everyone enjoys the final round of the season and best of luck to all of those in the finals!
Shere Khan
21-08-2015, 10:47 PM
Good luck to all in ZPL finals.
Bero deserved but finals is on!
Swansea are in form.
CCFC we are in the finals and whoever we play I think we are a chance.
Suns great finish to year all the best.
Source
22-08-2015, 10:47 PM
Swansea 0- mayfield 4 third grade
Reggies mayfield 2 -1
First grade 2 - 2
Source
22-08-2015, 10:47 PM
The results on the table are wrong
slobsy
23-08-2015, 04:21 AM
The results on the table are wrong
Yep foxsportpulse has 1st and 3rd grade scores reversed
idontwannaplaywithhowey
23-08-2015, 09:04 AM
Cardiff v New Lambton
3rd: 2-1 Cardiff
Reserves: 4-1 New Lambton
Firsts: 4-2 New Lambton
Cheers to the Cardiff and New Lambton gents that organised the old boys game that was played prior to first grade.it was a great way to celebrate the history of the 2 clubs. For the record Cardiff won that match 2-0.
Heskey2
23-08-2015, 09:54 AM
visited the grubs #1 v grubs #2 game yesterday aka mayfield v Swansea
And while the scores finished even mayfield take home the grub cup for putting a bloke in hospital. I went hoping to see mayfield win to better my clubs spot in the finals so we didn't have to play grubs #2
but pretty low act sending a 3rd grader out there to do some "damage" literally
Hope that young bloke is okay
Formely In Shape Allstar
23-08-2015, 10:56 AM
visited the grubs #1 v grubs #2 game yesterday aka mayfield v Swansea
And while the scores finished even mayfield take home the grub cup for putting a bloke in hospital. I went hoping to see mayfield win to better my clubs spot in the finals so we didn't have to play grubs #2
but pretty low act sending a 3rd grader out there to do some "damage" literally
Hope that young bloke is okay
Yes Yesterday was a great day down at Swansea....We had our Old Boys Day and it was ruined by grub act. It has resulted in Swansea's captain and leading goal scorer in hospital with a broken collerbone and is now out for the final series.
We all know that accidents happen, but everyone that was down there could clearly tell that it was a deliberate act to attack one of better players.
The shit thing is that the bloke who done it did not even get sent off and if results go their way, he will be playing semi-final football and a bloke who has had a great season and a has worked so hard with the club over the past few years to get us where we are now is going to be denied the right to play semi-final football.
It is a real shame and people who go out there to intentionally hurt people need to have a good hard look at themselves, because they are the type of people we do not want in our game.
Heskey2
23-08-2015, 11:27 AM
Yes Yesterday was a great day down at Swansea....We had our Old Boys Day and it was ruined by grub act. It has resulted in Swansea's captain and leading goal scorer in hospital with a broken collerbone and is now out for the final series.
Sorry to hear. He is a great player and will be a big loss to you. That bloke from mayfield dosent deserve to play finals. I'd be putting in a complaint if I were you after that malicious attack. #dogact
All the best for the finals
Jardelsimage
23-08-2015, 11:39 AM
Cardiff v New Lambton
3rd: 2-1 Cardiff
Reserves: 4-1 New Lambton
Firsts: 4-2 New Lambton
Cheers to the Cardiff and New Lambton gents that organised the old boys game that was played prior to first grade.it was a great way to celebrate the history of the 2 clubs. For the record Cardiff won that match 2-0.
There's talk that it will become a annual event, your ground next year, was a bit of fun with lots of talent(hahaha) on show, how's Clarkey's shoulder.
ForeverRed
23-08-2015, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the man of the match award
So if suns beat barnsley today semis are bero card, swans suns
idontwannaplaywithhowey
23-08-2015, 03:55 PM
There's talk that it will become a annual event, your ground next year, was a bit of fun with lots of talent(hahaha) on show, how's Clarkey's shoulder.
Sounds like a great plan mate. Ive tried to contact Clarky to check on him today, but no luck as yet. Hopefully it's not too serious.
Nou Camp
23-08-2015, 04:02 PM
Suns vs Barnsley
3rds and res called off
1sts kicking off now
Sounds like a great plan mate. Ive tried to contact Clarky to check on him today, but no luck as yet. Hopefully it's not too serious.
He is in a sling something about ligaments..
ranger
23-08-2015, 05:27 PM
Sun's have scored afew goals
Sun's have scored afew goals
4-1 atm 15mins left they want to win by 3 to finish in 2nd
Lofty
23-08-2015, 06:00 PM
Suns win 5-1 to storm home to second spot on the ladder. Huge effort to win 7 of last 8 games. Game on!
Source
23-08-2015, 06:28 PM
Just to get the facts straight re Mayfield v Swansea a third grader was not sent out to cause injury and damage to any one and let's not leave out the fact that your bloke drove him the back so suck it up it's no ones intention to cause injury to anyone and yes it's a shame he will miss the finals, I think your being a bit harsh on the guy.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
23-08-2015, 06:42 PM
He is in a sling something about ligaments..
That's probably good news.there were concerns about collarbone damage, so ligaments would be a positive.
footballfan
23-08-2015, 07:12 PM
That's probably good news.there were concerns about collarbone damage, so ligaments would be a positive.
He broke his collarbone in 3 places, definitely not just ligament damage!!
Mayfield bloke gets to play a semi next week in reserve grade, Swansea captain out of the finals!!
Shere Khan
23-08-2015, 07:34 PM
I think thee might be confusion here. Ex Eagle Clarkey looks as though he done ligament damage in the old boys kick v Cardiff.
Swansea captain I heard had a triple fracture and seperated ac joint.
Hope both guys get back asap.
Big blow for Swansea though.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
23-08-2015, 07:34 PM
He broke his collarbone in 3 places, definitely not just ligament damage!!
Mayfield bloke gets to play a semi next week in reserve grade, Swansea captain out of the finals!!
Completely different incidents mate.we are discussing the outcome unlucky incident in the New Lambton v Cardiff old boys match.
Heskey2
23-08-2015, 07:50 PM
it's no ones intention to cause injury to anyone
What were his intentions? Give him a cuddle?
footballfan
23-08-2015, 08:25 PM
Completely different incidents mate.we are discussing the outcome unlucky incident in the New Lambton v Cardiff old boys match.
Ah no worries mate, sorry for the confusion :)
I herd the Swansea bloke had the mayf bloke in a head lock so the mayf bloke picked him up and drove him? Could be wrong
footballfan
23-08-2015, 09:56 PM
I herd the Swansea bloke had the mayf bloke in a head lock so the mayf bloke picked him up and drove him? Could be wrong
Yep you're wrong!!
Jardelsimage
23-08-2015, 09:59 PM
scores for games today?
Roundball Enthusiast
23-08-2015, 10:04 PM
Suburb Vs Uni
3rds
0-1
Reserves
1-2 (winner in the last 30 seconds)
First
1-1
Dudley v Bero
3rds 1-1
Res 2-2
1sts 2-0 Dudley
Phoenix12
24-08-2015, 10:06 AM
Dudley v Bero
3rds 1-1
Res 2-2
1sts 2-0 Dudley
The draw in reserves means that UNI take the minor premiership ! Uni slotted a goal in the last 30 seconds or so for a 2 - 1 win against suburbs...
IMO Uni deserved the Minor premiership...Only 2 losses all season....and equal with Dudley in the "goals against" department.
And did I read that right.....Bero defeated in firsts in the last round game ?! If so, a large dent in the armour going into finals....I am sure they would be dissapointed.
leftrightout
24-08-2015, 10:18 AM
The draw in reserves means that UNI take the minor premiership ! Uni slotted a goal in the last 30 seconds or so for a 2 - 1 win against suburbs....
Draw also was enough to get bero into the semis if i read the table right?
Yes draw was enough to get Bero into reserve grade semis, point clear of new lambton
Also no dent in the armour hahaha, with 5 1st graders rested and 1st grade made up on 3rd graders and reserve graders that just played 80 minutes,
So no concerns haha
If the Suns are a force this year I'll eat my hat
Just pulled out the knife and fork.... Currently eating my hat!
Just pulled out the knife and fork.... Currently eating my hat!
Ha ha ha pulled your self up on it as well
Nou Camp
24-08-2015, 03:39 PM
Just pulled out the knife and fork.... Currently eating my hat!
haha
I was going to message you this today
great result considering we were 10 rounds ago
no players get paid or rego paid for (even had players leave before the season started because they wouldnt get either)
used at least 25 different players in first grade due to injuries
looking forward to Swansea this weekend
Nou Camp
24-08-2015, 03:42 PM
a referee inspector at the suns games yesterday mentioned that if the first leg of semis are washed out that the teams who finished 1 & 2will go straight to the GF, there wont be a 1 off game for the semis
said the rules were changed this year?
anyone know anything about this???
footballfan
24-08-2015, 04:09 PM
Anyone gonna have a shot at the ladder?
Bero
Uni
Mayfield
Dudley
Barnsley
Suburbs
New Lambton
Suns
Swansea
Cardiff
Interesting. There has been plenty of talk about Suns so far.
Ill think Mayfield will do it this year. They were great last season and i think will be better again.
Based purely on results ive heard and last seasons performances....
Mayfield
Suns
New Lambton
Bero
Barnsley
Dudley
Uni
Swansea
Suburbs
Cardiff
Have herd that cardiff have signed a few handy players, won't be last. Suburbs I think will struggle lost a few from last year,
Also Herd Suns have signed real well and should be up there this season,
Mayfield
Lambton
Suns
Bero
Barnsley
Dudley
Uni
Cardiff
Swansea
Suburbs
Tough season to pick I think. With three strong clubs moving to NewFM and the top 3 clubs from ZL1 2014 coming up, I think it really evens out the playing field and it will be really competitive. My uneducated guess;
Mayfield
Suns
Lambton
Bero
Uni
Barnsley
Suburbs
Dudley
Swansea
Cardiff
So it's finally that time, I'm back and the predictions are strong..
First of all mayfield will be strong with the pumping attitude at the long ball and the 7 foot Goliath winning everything in the air. 2nd I'd have to the suns word on the street they have recruited hard with a overweight pom holding up there back line and by default that have found there way into zpl. always strong hard to beat on the pitch that the waca would be proud of.
3rd new lambton davo patrolling the back line in his wheel chair well past it. Strong team
4th have I say uni well educated but usually blokes no one likes to hang out with.
5th Barnsley hard team to beat on there day team full of blokes that are keen to kick you especially on the Sahara desert
6th bero straight out of the bero bowlo full of beers hard to beat on a roo all field
7th Dudley no one likes you
8th Swansea generally start strong but just like the bridge always find it's way to the bottom.
9th Cardiff hear they have done a well recruiting from the junior over 35 d grade.
Last but not least suburbs take the spoon and one day finally might win zone league one good luck with that next year.
All the best lads for a 2015 year
I guess nearly everyone was right about Swansea also?
idontwannaplaywithhowey
24-08-2015, 04:12 PM
a referee inspector at the suns games yesterday mentioned that if the first leg of semis are washed out that the teams who finished 1 & 2will go straight to the GF, there wont be a 1 off game for the semis
said the rules were changed this year?
anyone know anything about this???
Id be surprised. Last year the rules were that if the first leg was washed out it would be a 1 off game to go to GF. If the first leg was played and the second leg washed out then whoever finished higher on the table would go through to the GF (regardless of first leg result). We only knew that because at New Lambton we were 3-1 down from the first leg against Cooks Hill and Alder Park got washed out for the second leg. We ended up having to chase around to try and find a ground that was playable (thankfully Dudley helped us out). We lost a shitload in canteen and beers sales and cost to hire their ground but obviously it was the right thing to do to do whatever we could to make sure the winner got through to the GF on merit.
Ha ha ha pulled your self up on it as well
haha
I was going to message you this today
great result considering we were 10 rounds ago
no players get paid or rego paid for (even had players leave before the season started because they wouldnt get either)
used at least 25 different players in first grade due to injuries
looking forward to Swansea this weekend
Yes yes It wasn't enjoyable at all!
Id be surprised. Last year the rules were that if the first leg was washed out it would be a 1 off game to go to GF. If the first leg was played and the second leg washed out then whoever finished higher on the table would go through to the GF (regardless of first leg result). We only knew that because at New Lambton we were 3-1 down from the first leg against Cooks Hill and Alder Park got washed out for the second leg. We ended up having to chase around to try and find a ground that was playable (thankfully Dudley helped us out). We lost a shitload in canteen and beers sales and cost to hire their ground but obviously it was the right thing to do to do whatever we could to make sure the winner got through to the GF on merit.
Well interesting enough I cannot find anything about it on the rules and regs on newcastle football!
WFC_ZL
24-08-2015, 04:53 PM
Sorry for the formatting but this is copy pasted from Regulation E 2015
In the event of a washout in the Finals Series the following Rules shall apply:-
(a) Rule E 24 (d) and (e) shall apply as the overarching Rules for such a situation:
Notwithstanding any other Regulations on the same subject matter, the Zone
Association ZFL Competition Administrator reserves the right to alter or amend
any Fixture after it has been nominated in the Official Fixtures List. Such alterations could be to the date, venue, kick-off times or a combination of
all, providing the Clubs involved are given seven (7) days prior notice,
whenever possible
The Zone Association ZFL Competition Administrator has the power to
abandon any Fixture and organise any other Fixture if he/she deems such
action necessary in the interests of the Finals Series Competition.
(b) In the event of a complete or major washout in any one set of Finals Series
Fixtures, the Zone Association ZFL Competition Administrator may seek to put
the season back one (1) week IF THIS IS POSSIBLE.
(c) Efforts will be made by the Zone Association ZFL Competition Administrator to
re-locate or re-schedule washed out Finals Series Matches to a suitable venue
if the original venue is washed out.
(d) If it is not possible to achieve any of the outcomes in E 30 (a), (b) or (c), the
Zone Association ZFL Competition Administrator may declare the Finals Series
event for a specific grade or for all grades to be CANCELLED.
(e) In the event of the CANCELLATION of ONE leg of the home and away two leg
SEMI-FINAL Matches, the Winners of the two single leg Semi-Final Matches
played shall qualify to play in the GRAND FINAL Match whilst the Losers of the
two single leg Semi-Final Matches played shall be eliminated.
In the event of a score draw in a single leg Semi-Final Match, the home and
away goals Rule (2 for an away goal, 1 for a home goal) will be used to
determine the Winner (to proceed to the Grand Final) and the Loser (to be
eliminated).
In the event of a scoreless draw in a single leg Semi-Final Match, the Zone
Association ZFL Competition Administrator shall arrange for a play-off Match
between the two Teams to take place during the week following the drawn
Match. If at the end of normal time in this Match the Teams are still locked in a
scoreless draw, Rule E 09 (b) (3) shall be used to find the Winner – extra time +
penalty kick decider if required (for First Grade only); penalty kick decider (for
Reserve and Third Grade).
In the event of the CANCELLATION of BOTH legs of the home and away two leg
SEMI-FINAL Matches, the Teams placed in positions 1 and 2 on the
Competition ladder shall qualify to play-off in the GRAND FINAL; the Teams
placed in positions 3 and 4 on the Competition ladder will be eliminated.
(f) In the event of the CANCELLATION of the GRAND FINAL Match, the Grand
Final round for that Division/Grade shall be declared NULL AND VOID and the
Competition shall be declared COMPLETED. No Grand Final Winner or Grand
Finalist (Grand Final Runner-Up) shall be declared since no Match has been
played.
Jardelsimage
24-08-2015, 06:12 PM
I guess nearly everyone was right about Swansea also?
and Cardiff, good result after finishing at the bottom last year.......
The Cookaburra Kid
25-08-2015, 05:06 PM
Heard Mayf very poor finish to the season cost them... good luck to the reserves and thirds!
Charman
25-08-2015, 09:31 PM
WFC ZL
If that is right and appears so, why does the lower finishing team get the first leg of the finals? Not a question to you directly but for everyone. Would it not make sense that the higher qualified team gets first home ground advantage?
WFC ZL
If that is right and appears so, why does the lower finishing team get the first leg of the finals? Not a question to you directly but for everyone. Would it not make sense that the higher qualified team gets first home ground advantage?
return leg may have extra time and pens which could be an advantage in the 2nd game
Jardelsimage
29-08-2015, 06:48 PM
Cardiff No2 today
3rds
Dud v Uni 1--1
res
Bero v Uni 0--3
1st
Cardiff v Bero 0--0
ForeverRed
29-08-2015, 07:14 PM
Good result for the Tigers, Bero will be nervous, tough gig to win on the postage stamp next week but I'm backing the diff, glory glory
outsider
29-08-2015, 07:18 PM
Good result for the Tigers, Bero will be nervous, tough gig to win on the postage stamp next week but I'm backing the diff, glory glory
would be more confident of them winning if they were playing southy.Very ordinary game today but I think Bero can and need to lift more and they will have a lot of crowd support
ForeverRed
29-08-2015, 07:53 PM
Time will tell, thanks for mentioning the gunners cock face
Dudleyman
29-08-2015, 08:47 PM
Just got word on the street that there is going to be police at Chapman oval tomorrow at 115,
Police are afraid Dudley reserve grade boys are about to murder Mayfield
outsider
29-08-2015, 09:10 PM
Time will tell, thanks for mentioning the gunners cock face
I didn't mention the gunners cockface -didn't know they had one but I guess that it must be you
Heskey2
29-08-2015, 10:33 PM
Good result for the Tigers, Bero will be nervous, tough gig to win on the postage stamp next week but I'm backing the diff, glory glory
Up the Tigers! The bero ball bags were lucky to come away with the draw against us today. Will be a hard game next week on your child sized field but victory shall be ours
Heskey2
29-08-2015, 10:40 PM
Just got word on the street that there is going to be police at Chapman oval tomorrow at 115,
Police are afraid Dudley reserve grade boys are about to murder Mayfield
id have the boys in blue there regardless. After what I saw last week I don't think mayf are welcome back in Swansea
seldom
29-08-2015, 10:45 PM
would be more confident of them winning if they were playing southy.Very ordinary game today but I think Bero can and need to lift more and they will have a lot of crowd support
Is this referee humour ? FFS your doin your counterparts no favours
Jardelsimage
30-08-2015, 01:18 AM
I didn't mention the gunners cockface -didn't know they had one but I guess that it must be you
Well you did as the gunners are Southy, but back to the real story, Bero struggled on the big park today, Tigers have a bit more improvement yet to go, maybe Bero on there ground might be different, cant wait until sunday, game on.........
Shere Khan
30-08-2015, 05:06 PM
Updates
Lofty
30-08-2015, 06:02 PM
First grade Suns won 1-0 in an entertaining match. Not sure of other grades..
Dudleyman
30-08-2015, 06:43 PM
Unfortunately the police did not show up Chapman Oval this afternoon and murder was committed.
The Dudley boys got up 2-0 against Mayfield,
Dudley boys looking strong.
Source
30-08-2015, 09:05 PM
From the third grade lads at mayfield hope the G/k from Berro is doing ok hope to see you back on the pitch real soon scary seeing you in situation we hope the tickers alright all the best to you and your family mate.
Shere Khan
31-08-2015, 01:01 AM
Just like to thank everyone for a great day of football at CCFC.
Imo
3rds Dudley v Uni
Dudley played well and Uni just couldn't seem to put it together but a late goal made it interesting.
Big unit at back for Duds killed it!
Res
Uni outplayed Bero but second half was interesting.
Not over yet!
1st
Bero had all there players back and so did CCFC so it was no excuses.
There was some absolutely ding dong battles between a few guys.
Archie v Eefy
Blakey and Merkel.
Coops and Burty
Etc
I'd just like to tilt my hat to all four clubs for an enjoyable day and everyone played in great spirit
Phoenix12
31-08-2015, 08:39 AM
In the thirds game on Saturday (Dudley v Uni) Dudley pulled the spectacular move of substituting 2 players in the first 10 seconds of the match.
No doubt there are "reasons"...and I would love to have someone from Dudley explain it...but its three times in three finals series over several years that I have seen Dudley do this, so you will have trouble convincing me.
All I can say is it looks bad, it stinks, :redcard:, and its the sort of move that gives Dudley their well deserved Grub status....
If I was one of those players substituted I would have been pissed, and certainly wouldn't be playing there next season.
But maybe there is a genuine reason ?:popcorn:
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 08:57 AM
In the thirds game on Saturday (Dudley v Uni) Dudley pulled the spectacular move of substituting 2 players in the first 10 seconds of the match. No doubt there are "reasons"...and I would love to have someone from Dudley explain it...
All I can say is it looks bad, it stinks, and its that sort of move that gives Dudley there well deserved Grub status.
If I was one of those players I would have been pissed right royally.
Ahhh my favourite qualification issue, well as all the clubs have allowed this and did not respond earlier when the email was sent outlining the 66% bullshit, etc..
There was also no questioning of the decree by Management, that if you don't qualify to start, you can still come off the bench :wtf: read the rules and tell me what it says, sure doesn't say you can come off the bench, even the refs at the ground agreed, but there job is not enforce the associations regulations.
the bed is now made lie in it.
Dudley technically have done nothing wrong, only using the rules as they have ......but if your from Uni, wasn't your 1st grade midfielder on the bench in reggies?? the skinny red headed kid....I've only seen Uni 1st grade play a few times and he played 1st every time.....and as one punter said to me, have a look at this kid he can play, he's there best, so i'm going to assume he played 1st all year....
In the thirds game on Saturday (Dudley v Uni) Dudley pulled the spectacular move of substituting 2 players in the first 10 seconds of the match.
No doubt there are "reasons"...and I would love to have someone from Dudley explain it...but its three times in three finals series over several years that I have seen Dudley do this, so you will have trouble convincing me.
All I can say is it looks bad, it stinks, :redcard:, and its the sort of move that gives Dudley their well deserved Grub status....
If I was one of those players substituted I would have been pissed, and certainly wouldn't be playing there next season.
But maybe there is a genuine reason ?:popcorn:
They could be all age players as well I believe that they can play up but can't start if they are not dual registered
Hotline
31-08-2015, 02:32 PM
Ahhh my favourite qualification issue, well as all the clubs have allowed this and did not respond earlier when the email was sent outlining the 66% bullshit, etc..
There was also no questioning of the decree by Management, that if you don't qualify to start, you can still come off the bench :wtf: read the rules and tell me what it says, sure doesn't say you can come off the bench, even the refs at the ground agreed, but there job is not enforce the associations regulations.
the bed is now made lie in it.
Dudley technically have done nothing wrong, only using the rules as they have ......but if your from Uni, wasn't your 1st grade midfielder on the bench in reggies?? the skinny red headed kid....I've only seen Uni 1st grade play a few times and he played 1st every time.....and as one punter said to me, have a look at this kid he can play, he's there best, so i'm going to assume he played 1st all year....
Well said Jardel. Rules will always be (or attempt to be) exploited. Let's just hope that the minority who do this is very very small.
In regards to the uni player mentioned, I believe he has played roughly a third of his games in firsts with the remainder being in res or being injured. He has been out for most of the last month, only returning this week, hence being on the bench on the weekend (and not being used I might add).
Phoenix12
31-08-2015, 04:05 PM
Well said Jardel. Rules will always be (or attempt to be) exploited. Let's just hope that the minority who do this is very very small.
In regards to the uni player mentioned, I believe he has played roughly a third of his games in firsts with the remainder being in res or being injured. He has been out for most of the last month, only returning this week, hence being on the bench on the weekend (and not being used I might add).
Exactly....the bloke has been away with work and family commitments, has been injured and has played in both reserves and firsts this year..... so well and truly qualified, and having represented the club in different grades and times throughout the year. AND WAS NOT USED.....AND IS ONE OF OUR BEST MIDFIELDERS...
Honestly, the fact that its in the rules is fine..... However, the Moral compass is way off... once again though their could be a good reason for lowering yourself to that position, and making your club and its name the pariah of the competition...but I seriously doubt it.
I know one thing....Uni (and the vast majority of other clubs) would never demean their players like that. Can you imagine being that bloke being subbed out ?...I would refuse to take the field if I knew it was going to happen.
Phoenix12
31-08-2015, 04:09 PM
They could be all age players as well I believe that they can play up but can't start if they are not dual registered
Yes that is one possibility... Cheers for that. As I did say...There could be very valid reasons....but I can tell you now, the whole Dudley bench and supporters were very low key and would not return comments at the time....IMO - that tells me that they knew what the outcome would be, what would be said, what would be thought, and that it wasn't going to be positive.
Phoenix12
31-08-2015, 04:17 PM
Just like to thank everyone for a great day of football at CCFC.
Imo
3rds Dudley v Uni
Dudley played well and Uni just couldn't seem to put it together but a late goal made it interesting.
Big unit at back for Duds killed it!
Res
Uni outplayed Bero but second half was interesting.
Not over yet!
1st
Bero had all there players back and so did CCFC so it was no excuses.
There was some absolutely ding dong battles between a few guys.
Archie v Eefy
Blakey and Merkel.
Coops and Burty
Etc
I'd just like to tilt my hat to all four clubs for an enjoyable day and everyone played in great spirit
I predicted that Bero would not make the GF.... Too many people thinking they were unbeatable....A loss in the last round, a draw on a big pitch against the 4th in the comp...now to see Cardiff come out and win.... my prediction is 2-1 to the Tigers in the return leg at Bero.....
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 07:52 PM
Exactly....the bloke has been away with work and family commitments, has been injured and has played in both reserves and firsts this year..... so well and truly qualified, and having represented the club in different grades and times throughout the year. AND WAS NOT USED.....AND IS ONE OF OUR BEST MIDFIELDERS...
Honestly, the fact that its in the rules is fine..... However, the Moral compass is way off... once again though their could be a good reason for lowering yourself to that position, and making your club and its name the pariah of the competition...but I seriously doubt it.
I know one thing....Uni (and the vast majority of other clubs) would never demean their players like that. Can you imagine being that bloke being subbed out ?...I would refuse to take the field if I knew it was going to happen.
chill out buddy and DONT YELL AT ME, I know he wasn't used, I was there...myself I would still call him a 1st grader thou...
qualified, did he play/start the required 66% of games in reggies????? that is the rule, but this is the problem, moral compass or not, players not meeting the requirements needed to qualify at all clubs.....because the powers that be determined that you don't really need to qualify, if your on the bench......
don't get me wrong either, I don't agree with what has been done, as it happened to us a few years back, by well need I say the clubs name, but the same as last weekend, the powers that be let it happen....all because most of the clubs are to weak to speak up......
Dudleyman
31-08-2015, 08:27 PM
Dear keyboard warrior,
Those blokes who subbed on consistently played third grade all year, just because they would also then start another grade therefore they wouldn't qualify for thirds.
Those blokes deserve to be there as much as anyone else
Mate it consistently happens at Dudley cause the boys have a got a bit of ticker and play all grades at times mate.
Guessing you are a uni bloke hence the whinging, good to see you have obviously got a bit of fear in you.
As for the "grub status" you are welcome whinge all you like, when you come down to Dudley you are getting a game.
Hotline
31-08-2015, 08:57 PM
Dear keyboard warrior,
Those blokes who subbed on consistently played third grade all year, just because they would also then start another grade therefore they wouldn't qualify for thirds.
Those blokes deserve to be there as much as anyone else
Mate it consistently happens at Dudley cause the boys have a got a bit of ticker and play all grades at times mate.
Guessing you are a uni bloke hence the whinging, good to see you have obviously got a bit of fear in you.
As for the "grub status" you are welcome whinge all you like, when you come down to Dudley you are getting a game.
All good mate. No fear from the uni boys with the opposition, just maybe the location. :)
It has been often I've noticed Dudley having guys starting multiple games on a given weekend. Do you guys just get really short towards the end of the year or not have that many squad numbers to begin with?
Jardel has it right. A 10s change is not in the spirit of the game but it is within the rules. Can a player still be a true 3rder when they are constantly thrown up grades to fill in during the year? maybe.
Q. Both players who subbed on early are they now allowed to start 3rds in the next game?
Dudleyman
31-08-2015, 09:17 PM
If you are playing with that team the whole year you deserve to be there,
It's not like those boys have had nothing to do with the team.
Yeah just fair few injuries and holidays caused fair few boys to back up regularly last couple of years.
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 08:49 AM
Dear keyboard warrior,
Those blokes who subbed on consistently played third grade all year, just because they would also then start another grade therefore they wouldn't qualify for thirds.
Those blokes deserve to be there as much as anyone else
Mate it consistently happens at Dudley cause the boys have a got a bit of ticker and play all grades at times mate.
Guessing you are a uni bloke hence the whinging, good to see you have obviously got a bit of fear in you.
As for the "grub status" you are welcome whinge all you like, when you come down to Dudley you are getting a game.
Well that seems a good reason to have them come on 10 seconds into a match.....Why not the last minute ?....
Either way, i had my rant, and got a reply. So thanks for that, and good luck to Dudley and all other teams on the weekend.
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 08:53 AM
Sorry Jardel....wasn't yelling champ...just highlighting the fact that Uni could have played someone on the ground that was a class above...but didnt.
I guess in the end it would be a really hard rule to police ? Your thoughts ?
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 08:55 AM
Jardel has it right. A 10s change is not in the spirit of the game but it is within the rules. Can a player still be a true 3rder when they are constantly thrown up grades to fill in during the year? maybe.
Q. Both players who subbed on early are they now allowed to start 3rds in the next game?
As Jardel said before....have all players fulfilled the 66% rule for each team ?...impossible to manage ?
The Magician
01-09-2015, 10:44 AM
As Jardel said before....have all players fulfilled the 66% rule for each team ?...impossible to manage ?
Impossible indeed... If a club has all 3 grades in the final series then any player can play any grade... but if one team does not make the GF from that club... 66% rule applies for the GF match, and hypothetically Resies dropping down to thirds for the semi final legs will not be able to play in the GF. Police THAT!!!
United
01-09-2015, 10:47 AM
As Jardel said before....have all players fulfilled the 66% rule for each team ?...impossible to manage ?All
All players at Dudley are playing within the rules. As to your comment about dodgy and grubs, that's fine call us what you want. We are not here to be your best friends and the way you guys carry on at finals don't want it either. As to the subs early, they are due to injuries and being old. You can make assumptions all you want.
The club has had a transition year and numbers are down due to injury/holidays. We are not a club to cheat or stack grades to make finals. Just do not have the numbers and the guys that have had to back up each week are showing Dudley spirit. Bit rich given the team you sent out against us in the 2nd round, compared to the team in the finals.
All players we use are down to injuries or lack of numbers. Talk about true spirit of the game. I think who are willing to be there for the club, put there hand up and help out their friends is a true spirit of a club. Also as for us doing this for 3 years running. Last year our third grade was intact and all players had played through out the year and well reggies have no fresh subs to begin with. So coach puts whomever on the bench. Our reserve grade is strong and all could play first grade. So that argument is invalid
Lofty
01-09-2015, 11:07 AM
Okay.... next topic please?
Grand final predictions now?
First grade: Beresfield v Suns
Reserves: Uni v Dudley
Thirds: Uni v Beresfield
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 12:08 PM
Fair call !
GF Predictions...
I dont think Beresfield will make the GF.............. . Cardiff v Suns
Reserves.......................................... .............. Uni V Dudley
Thirds............................................ ................. Uni V Beresfield
I think Uni thirds will have to play much better than last weekend to get there though...Dudley are always tough in the finals.
Lofty
01-09-2015, 01:49 PM
Fair call !
GF Predictions...
I dont think Beresfield will make the GF.............. . Cardiff v Suns
Reserves.......................................... .............. Uni V Dudley
Thirds............................................ ................. Uni V Beresfield
I think Uni thirds will have to play much better than last weekend to get there though...Dudley are always tough in the finals.
Last year we played Bero in the semis and won the first leg at Bero 2-1. We then got smashed 4-0 at home in the second leg. In first grade I wouldn't be ruling out either Bero or Swansea at this stage, I don't think there are any favourites.
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 01:58 PM
Yeah that's the funny thing with finals and predictions...you just never know....Beresfield deserve to be there for sure...but I just get a feeling that Cardiff will pip them.....happy to be wrong though !!
Lofty
01-09-2015, 02:36 PM
Yeah that's the funny thing with finals and predictions...you just never know....Beresfield deserve to be there for sure...but I just get a feeling that Cardiff will pip them.....happy to be wrong though !!
And I'd be happy if you're right! :rof:
Anyone having a whinge about so called "stacked" Teams; There are rules, its stipulated you can stack your bench. You would be STUPID not too. But if they want to make 2 subs in the first minute they can easily fall on their sword, Injuries can be a dangerous thing when you have 1 sub left for 79mins! As long as they're abiding by the rules stick your moral compasses right up your rear ends!
Nou Camp
01-09-2015, 05:24 PM
Anyone having a whinge about so called "stacked" Teams; There are rules, its stipulated you can stack your bench. You would be STUPID not too. But if they want to make 2 subs in the first minute they can easily fall on their sword, Injuries can be a dangerous thing when you have 1 sub left for 79mins! As long as they're abiding by the rules stick your moral compasses right up your rear ends!
its unlimited subs in thirds...
Phoenix12
01-09-2015, 05:32 PM
Anyone having a whinge about so called "stacked" Teams; There are rules, its stipulated you can stack your bench. You would be STUPID not too. But if they want to make 2 subs in the first minute they can easily fall on their sword, Injuries can be a dangerous thing when you have 1 sub left for 79mins! As long as they're abiding by the rules stick your moral compasses right up your rear ends!
That's the beauty of forums.....you get everyone's viewpoint !
its unlimited subs in thirds...
Third grade... who cares, everyone can do the exact same... my point still stands, you're stupid if you don't use the rules to an advantage!
EDIT: Neither Uni or Dudley made First grade made Semis... They can both have 4 first graders on the bench, If it's the moral compass holding them back that's their issue.
Phoenix12
02-09-2015, 02:09 PM
Third grade... who cares, everyone can do the exact same... my point still stands, you're stupid if you don't use the rules to an advantage!
EDIT: Neither Uni or Dudley made First grade made Semis... They can both have 4 first graders on the bench, If it's the moral compass holding them back that's their issue.
I am not so sure that's true........Wasn't there something written about a 66% rule ? IE you must have played 66% of games in that team to be eligible to play... I may be wrong but its been talked about before on this forum.
Cheers
idontwannaplaywithhowey
02-09-2015, 02:29 PM
I am not so sure that's true........Wasn't there something written about a 66% rule ? IE you must have played 66% of games in that team to be eligible to play... I may be wrong but its been talked about before on this forum.
Cheers
Its 66% to START I believe. Anyone can come off the bench.
The Magician
02-09-2015, 02:33 PM
Its 66% to START I believe. Anyone can come off the bench.
E 51 FINAL SERIES PLAYER ELIGIBILITY
(a) The eligibility of a Player to play for a Reserve or Third Grade in a Finals Series
Match shall be determined by the Regulation that each Player competing in
that Grade must have been listed in the starting eleven (11) of that Grade for
not less than sixty-six percent (66%) of the Official Fixtures Draw Matches for
the Competition Season in which that Grade has competed (designated
Goalkeepers exempt). Any Player who plays for a Reserve or Third Grade Team
in a Finals Series Match without meeting the 66% requirement will be deemed
an Ineligible Player for that Grade and the appropriate Regulations shall be
applied.
Each Club will be responsible for determining the eligibility of its Registered
ZFL Players and must maintain a system of tracking each of its Players for the
full Competition Season by recording from Team Match Sheets the Players in
the starting eleven (11) for each Grade for each Competition Match; this will
allow the Club to list Players who qualify for each Grade by meeting the 66%
requirement. It is anticipated that FoxSP will have a program that will permit
this tracking to be done.
Another interesting one....
(c) A Player can only be in the starting eleven (11) Players in one (1) Semi-Final, one (1)
Final and one (1) Grand Final in any one year (with the exception of designated
Goalkeepers).
The Magician
02-09-2015, 02:34 PM
http://www.newcastlefootball.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/nth-nsw-football/Zones/Newcastle/Regulations/2015/REGULATION_E_2015.pdf
Phoenix12
02-09-2015, 03:48 PM
http://www.newcastlefootball.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/nth-nsw-football/Zones/Newcastle/Regulations/2015/REGULATION_E_2015.pdf
Excellent work magician...cheers for that !
As previously discussed though...ref's aren't responsible for monitoring it, that leaves the association..I wonder if the association ever does an audit !
Maybe it should be a system whereby the club has to submit teams lists to the association (that meet the criteria) prior to the finals series.
After all its up to the clubs to keep track of eligibility.... (and I wonder how many clubs could actually do it ?!)
Leftback at Home
02-09-2015, 03:55 PM
What about if a player misses 40% of the season through injury?
The Magician
02-09-2015, 04:10 PM
Excellent work magician...cheers for that !
As previously discussed though...ref's aren't responsible for monitoring it, that leaves the association..I wonder if the association ever does an audit !
Maybe it should be a system whereby the club has to submit teams lists to the association (that meet the criteria) prior to the finals series.
After all its up to the clubs to keep track of eligibility.... (and I wonder how many clubs could actually do it ?!)
An audit would only happen if a club made an official complaint backed up with evidence... In either case association would just say its only 3rd/4th division football... game has been played, not replaying... get over it...
I know Suns were asking for advice last year about Jesmond players playing under different names, and even evidence of the same player registered under 2 names.... even with evidence provided nothing happened.
Nou Camp
02-09-2015, 04:30 PM
im sure that 66% rule has unintentionally been broken by most club s
players can changes grades over the course of the year several times
if a players plays the first half of the year in ressies, gets dropped to thirds plays 9 straight game for thirds the rules say he cant play for thirds in the finals...
didn't the rules used to be you had play last 3 out of 5 games for the particular grade you were playing for??
Retro Jet
02-09-2015, 09:48 PM
Excellent work magician...cheers for that !
As previously discussed though...ref's aren't responsible for monitoring it, that leaves the association..I wonder if the association ever does an audit !
Maybe it should be a system whereby the club has to submit teams lists to the association (that meet the criteria) prior to the finals series.
After all its up to the clubs to keep track of eligibility.... (and I wonder how many clubs could actually do it ?!)
Cookers can and have been able to do it since 2011...
News flash!!! It's the 21st century peeps! Get copies after the game. It's your right AND if your into crossing t's and dotting lower case j's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UitpyL3RU40), it's morally your obligation.
E33
TEAM SHEETS
(b) The Home Club shallprepare (or have prepared by the Zone Association) an ORIGINAL Official Team Sheet
and may prepare a DUPLICATE copy at the same time, if the Club desires. The Duplicate copy shall be retained by the Club; the
ORIGINAL MUST BE SUBMITTED.
My dinky OfficeJerks scanner aside, just about every WankPhone camera has good enough resolution to
get a copy to draw stats from. In NewFM this season, if I couldn't get there, Ty nabbed them for me on his tablet thingie. (Tnx again Ty!)
No excuses anymore. Just do it...
Hotline
02-09-2015, 10:45 PM
im sure that 66% rule has unintentionally been broken by most club s
players can changes grades over the course of the year several times
if a players plays the first half of the year in ressies, gets dropped to thirds plays 9 straight game for thirds the rules say he cant play for thirds in the finals...
didn't the rules used to be you had play last 3 out of 5 games for the particular grade you were playing for??
This has been discussed with the boss man and I think it has been discussed in other ZL threads. While I still don't believe it is clear, the 66% is intended to be an exclusion rule, rather than an inclusion rule. Ie, if you start greater than 66% of games in firsts (13/18) you are excluded from starting semis for res or 3rds, and likewise for ressies players excluded from 3rds.
Effectively clubs need to record all the players' starting/sub grade each week. It then becomes a simple task come semis time.
Retro Jet
03-09-2015, 12:46 AM
im sure that 66% rule has unintentionally been broken by most club s
players can changes grades over the course of the year several times
if a players plays the first half of the year in ressies, gets dropped to thirds plays 9 straight game for thirds the rules say he cant play for thirds in the finals...
didn't the rules used to be you had play last 3 out of 5 games for the particular grade you were playing for??
Was 4 out of the last 6.
This has been discussed with the boss man and I think it has been discussed in other ZL threads. While I still don't believe it is clear, the 66% is intended to be an exclusion rule, rather than an inclusion rule. Ie, if you start greater than 66% of games in firsts (13/18) you are excluded from starting semis for res or 3rds, and likewise for ressies players excluded from 3rds.
Effectively clubs need to record all the players' starting/sub grade each week. It then becomes a simple task come semis time.
It's interesting that NewFM (and I suspect NPL) has a mix of the rules:-
6. ELIGIBLE PLAYER FOR FINAL SERIES - Ref Regulation 6.5
Subject to any disciplinary restriction, a player is eligible player to compete in his team's final series fixtures as per below;
In a division/league competition a player who has played in four (4) fixtures out of his last six (6) fixtures in 23’s, 19’s or 17’s grades (provided that he has not been named in the starting line up for a higher grade for that round) during the premiership competition is eligible to play in the respective 23’s, 19’s or 17’s grades in the final series competition. Clubs may seek special dispensation no later than Wednesday before the final series fixture for a player who has participated in a minimum of 66% of his games in a lower grade competition. The above rule is not applicable whilst all grades are still participating in the finals series.
Lofty
03-09-2015, 08:22 AM
Seriously now. Who gives a duck?!
Let's move on from this!
Phoenix12
03-09-2015, 03:33 PM
Seriously now. Who gives a duck?!
Let's move on from this!
Understand your reasoning ! but its a forum for a reason. No one else is submitting thread topics.....
Cheers
Shere Khan
05-09-2015, 05:03 PM
Any updates from Connelly Pk?
Premy
05-09-2015, 05:54 PM
Any updates from Connelly Pk?4-2 Swansea
4-2 Swansea
Swansea stepping up for the occasion
The Majestic Swan
05-09-2015, 05:56 PM
Up the mighty swans!!!!!!
Mitchy
06-09-2015, 07:01 PM
Bero 3-1
Bero 3-1
Yea just heard Cardiff were leading 1-0 most of game Bero scored all 3 in last 15 after cardiff had one sent and gave away penalty
Jardelsimage
06-09-2015, 08:11 PM
Yea just heard Cardiff were leading 1-0 most of game Bero scored all 3 in last 15 after cardiff had one sent and gave away penalty
yep that is true, Tigers up 1 and were the better side until then, Ref's call on a pen just after he sent left back off definitely turned the game in Bero's favour.
Most at the ground including Bero boys of old agreed very soft pen, but credit where its due thou, Bero picked it up and powered on to win the game.
Tigers, from last to 4th did well this year, losing Deano just after the break hurt us, but hey that's football, good luck to all next week.....
to all the Bero boys from old , great day catching up and reminiscing about the battles of yesteryear were priceless...
cheers
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