2016 Zone League 1 thread

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

I would think the Charley GK is the only reason they stayed in touch for the top 4 for so long. I'd also add that without him they wouldn't be too far ahead of Nelson Bay and Barnsley, if at all.
Personally I hope neither of the bottom 2 get relegated and they may not, but double slide for Barnsley would surely have consequences for the club and Nelson Bay have a heap of young players who will improve. Numbers seems to be a problem with them though.
Seem both are separated by a 1 goal advantage to Barnsley with Nelson Bay at Kotara and Barnsley hosting us round 18. Seems may well be more excitement at wrong end of the ladder.
Good to have Kotara fighting for their semis hopes and Barnsley for their survival as our final 2 games as we head toward semis. Should be hard, committed fixtures!

[Kicktheball]

It's going to be a Jesmond v Stockton grand final

[Donk]

Charlestown vs Barnsley catch up
3rds 2-1 Barnsley
Res 2-1 Barnsley

[Passtheballmate]

Did Kotara and Jeso play yesterday?? Any results?

[RANGER09]

SP has
1st 2-1
Res 0-1
3rd 2-2

Takes Kotara out of race for 1st grade finals

[Passtheballmate]

So the top 2 in the finals are set. Can anyone predict the possible outcomes for 3 and 4 this weekend??

[XRanger]

So the top 2 in the finals are set. Can anyone predict the possible outcomes for 3 and 4 this weekend??

Hopefully not sent back to ZL2 again

[Kicktheball]

Is it just the one team being promoted to zone premier, or does the new setup change the structure?

[beaten favourite]

Is it just the one team being promoted to zone premier, or does the new setup change the structure?

I don't think anyone has any idea. It all depends on the snowball effect of the Northern Decision. Particularly as New Lambton ZPL applied for a license. You could play hypotheticals all day but for instance if they were granted an NPL2 licence that would mean an extra spot in ZPL. Does Garden Suburb get spared the axe and then no relegation all the way down the Zone Leagues????

Will be a very interesting off season, let's just hope Northern doesn't mess it up!!!

[leftrightout]

I don't think anyone has any idea. It all depends on the snowball effect of the Northern Decision. Particularly as New Lambton ZPL applied for a license. You could play hypotheticals all day but for instance if they were granted an NPL2 licence that would mean an extra spot in ZPL. Does Garden Suburb get spared the axe and then no relegation all the way down the Zone Leagues????

Will be a very interesting off season, let's just hope Northern doesn't mess it up!!!

Is there any indication of when NNSW will announce what is happening. Clubs all the way through from NPL to ZL3 need to plan for next year and the longer they hold out the harder it becomes for those volunteers to set up for a strong season.

[beaten favourite]

Is there any indication of when NNSW will announce what is happening. Clubs all the way through from NPL to ZL3 need to plan for next year and the longer they hold out the harder it becomes for those volunteers to set up for a strong season.

Supposed to be straight after the NPL GF but apparently NPL clubs submitted a proposal to bring back an Open Reserve Grade so NNSW have apparently pushed the decision back. I just hope they make the decision ASAP as it will have a huge impact on NEWFM clubs hoping to go up. Any delay provides existing NPL clubs with a huge advantage to secure players as they can pretty much guarantee they'll be there next year. Potentially huge impact on Cookers if they do away with a Second Division we've then got 100 players to squeeze into 1 Zone team not to mention all the talented juniors in the 17's & 19's teams.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Supposed to be straight after the NPL GF but apparently NPL clubs submitted a proposal to bring back an Open Reserve Grade so NNSW have apparently pushed the decision back. I just hope they make the decision ASAP as it will have a huge impact on NEWFM clubs hoping to go up. Any delay provides existing NPL clubs with a huge advantage to secure players as they can pretty much guarantee they'll be there next year. Potentially huge impact on Cookers if they do away with a Second Division we've then got 100 players to squeeze into 1 Zone team not to mention all the talented juniors in the 17's & 19's teams.

Talk is now no decision until mid October.

[beaten favourite]

Talk is now no decision until mid October.

watch that get pushed back further

[amishpanda]

Supposed to be straight after the NPL GF but apparently NPL clubs submitted a proposal to bring back an Open Reserve Grade so NNSW have apparently pushed the decision back. I just hope they make the decision ASAP as it will have a huge impact on NEWFM clubs hoping to go up. Any delay provides existing NPL clubs with a huge advantage to secure players as they can pretty much guarantee they'll be there next year. Potentially huge impact on Cookers if they do away with a Second Division we've then got 100 players to squeeze into 1 Zone team not to mention all the talented juniors in the 17's & 19's teams.

Existing NPL clubs are applying for a license too. Clubs must meet the criteria set out by Northern or risk being demoted to ZPL or a 'non-conforming' NNSWF competition at the discretion of the selection panel.

Other than that, I agree 100%. As it stands already, NPL 2017 is going to be a complete write off for promoted clubs and a screw around for a number of lower division clubs, leaving the handful of volunteers trying to manage each affected club with a complete mess to sort out in a short period of time. No biggy for those that get paid to call the shots though.

[Passtheballmate]

Hopefully not sent back to ZL2 again

Terrace 1st are doing good. Shame about the lower teams not being able to get up there. Is the talk Terrace could look to struggle for numbers again next year??

[hawk]

As it stands already, NPL 2017 is going to be a complete write off for promoted clubs and a screw around for a number of lower division clubs, leaving the handful of volunteers trying to manage each affected club with a complete mess to sort out in a short period of time. No biggy for those that get paid to call the shots though.

farce. ffa should mandate a time/date when top tier comps rules and formats should be released. Fines if not met. broke in 12 months

[XRanger]

Terrace 1st are doing good. Shame about the lower teams not being able to get up there. Is the talk Terrace could look to struggle for numbers again next year??
Terrace have struggled for numbers for years, that's the reason they dropped down from ZL1 2 years ago when majority of the players left and the numbers where made up by mainly all age players. Even last year we had 2 teams in the ZL2 grand final with ressies only having 2 reserves. Hopefully next year will be different, but I'm pretty sure other teams have been through the same at some stage

[Passtheballmate]

Terrace have struggled for numbers for years, that's the reason they dropped down from ZL1 2 years ago when majority of the players left and the numbers where made up by mainly all age players. Even last year we had 2 teams in the ZL2 grand final with ressies only having 2 reserves. Hopefully next year will be different, but I'm pretty sure other teams have been through the same at some stage

Name of the game really. Sign 100 to have 50 available. Injuries and player availabilities will do that every time.

[The Spy]

Anyone else tipping a Warners Bay v Cooks Hill GF in both reserve and first grade?

[Passtheballmate]

Anyone else tipping a Warners Bay v Cooks Hill GF in both reserve and first grade?

Warners Bay need to beat Cookers tomorrow and hope for a descent result from the Terrace Stocko game in 1st to tip that one happening.

[The Spy]

Oh have faith

[Donk]

Barnsley vs Jesmond
1st 1 nil Jesmond very lucky to get the 3 points
Ressies 3-2 Barnsley come from 2 nil down at half time
3rds 3-2 Barnsley and with bero boys beating Charlie the boys are into the finals

[beaten favourite]

CHUFC v WB
Firsts: 4-1
Ressies: 0-0
Thirds: 2-0

Great day at the track, congrats to Thirds on the Minor.

[onlooker]

Terrace V Stockton
3rds 2-2
Res 2-1
First 3-0
No spoons for our lowere grades and a tidy 3rd place finish for first grade not bad for first year back in ZL1

[namwob99]

Bero vs Charlie
T 1-0
R 3-0
F 1-2

[beaten favourite]

So Nelson Bay now need a point tomorrow to survive the drop (but who knows what'll happen with NNSWFF this offseason).
Massive day at Nesbitt......

[Donk]

Anyone else tipping a Warners Bay v Cooks Hill GF in both reserve and first grade?

Hope you didn't have money on it

[Passtheballmate]

Terrace V Stockton
3rds 2-2
Res 2-1
First 3-0
No spoons for our lowere grades and a tidy 3rd place finish for first grade not bad for first year back in ZL1

Good to see the Terrace make up for the 1st round against Stockton. Was a good performance to watch from the sideline.
Good luck to the boys in the finals!!

[onlooker]

Good to see the Terrace make up for the 1st round against Stockton. Was a good performance to watch from the sideline.
Good luck to the boys in the finals!!

Was great to watch from the field, to take a lead into the half time break playing against the wind was brilliant..

[Donk]

Kotara vs nelson bay
1st 6-2 kotara
Ressies 4-1 kotara
3rds 3 nil kotara

[leftrightout]

Kotara vs nelson bay
1st 6-2 kotara
Ressies 4-1 kotara
3rds 3 nil kotara

Barnsley survive, Nelson Bay to drop... Depending on restructure, I doubt they will go down though!

[The Spy]

So have we got 1v4 on Sunday or Saturday?

[XRanger]

So have we got 1v4 on Sunday or Saturday?
First leg 1v4 is sat, 2v3 sun
2nd leg 2v3 sat , 1v4 sun

[Donk]

Barnsley survive, Nelson Bay to drop... Depending on restructure, I doubt they will go down though!

Only just

[Kicktheball]

Thoughts on who will be in the grand final gents?

[Donk]

Thoughts on who will be in the grand final gents?
My pick Cookers vrs stocko

[The Spy]

Thoughts on who will be in the grand final gents?

Jesmond v Cookers - Firsts
W Bay v Kotara - Reserve
Cookers v Kotara - Thirds

[leftrightout]

Jesmond v Cookers - Firsts
W Bay v Kotara - Reserve
Cookers v Kotara - Thirds

Agree with 1st and Reserves.
I think Barnsley will get over Cookers in 3rds. Purely because i was told on the weekend that they have won 8 straight since the turn of the season. Pretty impressive in any grade and there always has to be a bit of an upset doesn't there?

Jesmond v Cookers - Firsts
W Bay v Kotara - Reserve
Barnsley v Kotara - Thirds

[The Spy]

Looks like rain for most of the week as well...

[WWMTD?]

Agree with 1st and Reserves.
I think Barnsley will get over Cookers in 3rds. Purely because i was told on the weekend that they have won 8 straight since the turn of the season. Pretty impressive in any grade and there always has to be a bit of an upset doesn't there?

Jesmond v Cookers - Firsts
W Bay v Kotara - Reserve
Barnsley v Kotara - Thirds

3rds upset might depend on whether Barnsley stack it with no higher grades now playing for them..guess we will see on the weekend!

[Passtheballmate]

3rds upset might depend on whether Barnsley stack it with no higher grades now playing for them..guess we will see on the weekend!

You'd have to qualify to play lower grade right? You'd think Barnsly would've been more worried about avoiding relegation then stacking a 3rd grade side.

[beaten favourite]

100% agree, if they're stacking the thirds to make finals and getting releglated they aren't very clever and from the couple of games of Barnsley thirds I've seen this year there are a fair few big boppers out there, 11 svelte athletic looking blokes might raise a few eyebrows.......

[The Spy]

1 thing I've never been called, is 'svelte'....

[Ranger-86]

100% agree, if they're stacking the thirds to make finals and getting releglated they aren't very clever and from the couple of games of Barnsley thirds I've seen this year there are a fair few big boppers out there, 11 svelte athletic looking blokes might raise a few eyebrows.......

Bloke who played upfront against us in 1st grade in the 1st round was playing 3rd grade in the 2nd round.

[Kicktheball]

What dates are the 2 legs?

[Passtheballmate]

What dates are the 2 legs?

This weekend and next weekend 😉

[RANGER09]

Saturday at Corroba
3rds -Barnsley vs Cooks Hill
Res. -Jesmond vs Warners Bay
1st. _Stockton vs Jesmond
Sunday at King Park
3rds -Jesmond vs Kotara
Res. - Cooks Hill vs Kotara
1st. - Terrace vs Cooks Hill

[beaten favourite]

1 thing I've never been called, is 'svelte'....

😂😂😂

[Butt]

Bloke who played upfront against us in 1st grade in the 1st round was playing 3rd grade in the 2nd round.
Who do you play for? Its hard to stack third grade for finals as first and res grades do not qualify to play.

[Wilso8948]

Bloke who played upfront against us in 1st grade in the 1st round was playing 3rd grade in the 2nd round.

So? This happens at all clubs. Work, social commitments, injuries.. Has happened at Terrace too. Not really worth jumping on here and making assumptions. Too many clubs have been caught in previous years with egg on their faces and forfeited finals matches. Lets just leave it up to Barnsley to do whatever they want to do within the rules. Better then jumping on here and throwing small comments around to start a riot.

[The Spy]

Wilso - will the mighty shores of Corroba Oval have a temporary liquor licence in place this weekend? Not for me of course, cause I'm an athlete, but I'm sure there'll be other fat Warners Bay troopers that'd be keen?

[RANGER09]

For teams / spectators attending King Park on Sunday please be pass on that we will have a liquor licence in place for the day.
Good luck to all teams in the finals!

[leftrightout]

3rds upset might depend on whether Barnsley stack it with no higher grades now playing for them..guess we will see on the weekend!

Assuming they didn't stack teams on the weekend, they won 3rds but also won Reserve grade and only lost 1-0 in 1st grade in what was said to be a pretty tight game.

Against Jesmond who finished above them in all grades.
When a 3rd grade is stacked the higher grades don't usually fair so well!

[Wilso8948]

Wilso - will the mighty shores of Corroba Oval have a temporary liquor licence in place this weekend? Not for me of course, cause I'm an athlete, but I'm sure there'll be other fat Warners Bay troopers that'd be keen?

Ill leave this to others to either confirm or deny. I always get myself into sticky situations when alcohol is involved..

Either that or bring as many Mr Schnitzel wraps to the game and I'll dish out free piss to all myself!

[Passtheballmate]

If this rain hangs around what are the chances of games getting on?
I know Terrace rarely gets washed out. What happens if they are?
Pretty sure this discussion comes around every year the finals are on.

[onlooker]

If this rain hangs around what are the chances of games getting on?
I know Terrace rarely gets washed out. What happens if they are?
Pretty sure this discussion comes around every year the finals are on.
Wouldn't the first leg be classed as a 0-0 result, and just come down to the second leg..
And if both legs are washed out then the two highest placed teams go through to the gf!!

[The Spy]

And there's likely to be rain toward the end of next week as well, if the iPhone weather app is accurate...

[RANGER09]

Quite a few scenarios to take into account looking at the washout rules, will have to wait and see what the weekend brings :yawn:

[WWMTD?]

Wouldn't the first leg be classed as a 0-0 result, and just come down to the second leg..
And if both legs are washed out then the two highest placed teams go through to the gf!!

Pretty sure it does end up 0-0 first leg if it's a washout. Think it might have happened in recent years

[Bulldogs 1962]

Wouldn't the first leg be classed as a 0-0 result, and just come down to the second leg..
And if both legs are washed out then the two highest placed teams go through to the gf!!

Pretty big incentive then for teams to get games on at all costs this weekend, being the lower teams, as top teams could just wash out the following week and guarantee a gf spot

[leftrightout]

We have barely had any rain, we'll certainly not where I've been the last day and a bit. So it really shouldn't be an issue!

[Couchcoach]

Jesmond v Cookers - Firsts
W Bay v Kotara - Reserve
Cookers v Kotara - Thirds

I would like to see
Jesmond v Cooks Hill
All three grades.
They are the only teams to make all three so would be a good way to settle the club championship and a great day of football to boot!

[Wilso8948]

Pretty sure it does end up 0-0 first leg if it's a washout. Think it might have happened in recent years

Saw an email in another thread saying first priority is to reschedule at another ground, second is to replay midweek and if rain washes that out then second leg becomes a one off match.

If this is then washed out the highest team qualifies.

[Cabaye#4]

Said email:



Afternoon,

With some ordinary weather surrounding the area some questions arise regards what happens if…….?

· With all respect to safety play your matches.
· Preference, if not obviously under water, would be to leave it up to the Referee call which may give your pitch some more drainage/drying time.

If there is no alternative and your ground is closed;

· Make arrangements to re-locate the matches on that day. Leg 1.
· Remember to contact – ZFL (either Gail or me) of the move, your opposition. ZFL contact will inform State League Referees.
· If no alternative is available – reset the matches for mid-week; usually Wednesday.
· If the weather dictates that no reset match of Leg 1 is possible during the week then Leg 2 becomes a ONE off match – Winner through to the Grand Final.
· If the ONE off Leg 2 match is washed out plus any resets – the highest ranking teams go through to the Grand Final.

[The Battler]

Bloke who played upfront against us in 1st grade in the 1st round was playing 3rd grade in the 2nd round.
I think you will find this bloke played the whole second round in thirds where he arguably should of been from the start, as he could fall into the said 'big boppas' category these days

[Kicktheball]

Stockton 1 v Jesmond 0

[XRanger]

Stockton 1 v Jesmond 0
No surprise here, Stocktons result last week would of thrown teams off, but boosted by a couple of missing 1st grade players looks to have put them in the box seat at this stage

[Passtheballmate]

Stockton 1 v Jesmond 0

Good result for Stocko. Makes for an interesting second leg.
Jeso's first loss coming at a bad time of the year.

[Wilso8948]

Deserved in my opinion. Could have been more goals in the game if not for great goalkeeping from both teams. Jeso save at the death to keep it to 1-0 was outstanding and could well be very important.

[The Spy]

WB won 4-0 and Cooks Hill got up by 1 think in the lower grades

[hawk]

WB won 4-0 and Cooks Hill got up by 1 think in the lower grades

V who?

bad as the L3 thread

[Charman]

Those who follow these leagues know.

[beaten favourite]

V who?

bad as the L3 thread

WB v Jesmond
CHUFC v Barnsley

[onlooker]

Terrace 4- cookers 0
Res kotara 2 cookers 2 ( kotara converted a pen with the last kick)
Thirds Jeso 0 kotara 0 ( not sure who was home team)

[The Spy]

What happened in firsts?

[Passtheballmate]

Terrace 4- cookers 0
Res kotara 2 cookers 2 ( kotara converted a pen with the last kick)
Thirds Jeso 0 kotara 0 ( not sure who was home team)

Great result for the Terrace in 1st. That's going to be a hard one to come back from for cooks hill in the second leg.

[XRanger]

Great result for the Terrace in 1st. That's going to be a hard one to come back from for cooks hill in the second leg.
It's only half time, anything can happen in this strange comp.
Cookers are a quality side. Score line didn't reflect the way they played today. We definitely not getting carried away with that result, hence the reason for not singing the song after

[Retro Jet]

It's only half time, anything can happen in this strange comp.
Cookers are a quality side. Score line didn't reflect the way they played today. We definitely not getting carried away with that result, hence the reason for not singing the song after

Respect...

I cringe when ever I hear about this happening in a 2 leg play off.
Cookers wouldn't have done it either had the shoe been on the other foot,
cause I'd be the shoe kicking butts if it got back to me that they did!

[hawk]

WB v Jesmond
CHUFC v Barnsley


Terrace 4- cookers 0
Res kotara 2 cookers 2 ( kotara converted a pen with the last kick)
Thirds Jeso 0 kotara 0 ( not sure who was home team)

cheers. geez, tearass on fire

I do follow the league but not all grades and cbf going to FSP to check tables all the time. Yes im a lazy bastard.

[WWMTD?]

Respect...

I cringe when ever I hear about this happening in a 2 leg play off.
Cookers wouldn't have done it either had the shoe been on the other foot,
cause I'd be the shoe kicking butts if it got back to me that they did!

It just gives the opposition ammo for leg 2 if you start celebrating half way through!

[Kicktheball]

Cooks hill are shambles. Their season is over

[Passtheballmate]

Cooks hill are shambles. Their season is over

Don't think you'll hear the Terrace boys saying that just yet. Jobs only half done. Cooks Hill are a very good ball playing side.
Mind you I'd be more confident going in at 4-0 up then 1-0 to the other teams home ground.

[The Spy]

Cookers aren't done yet. They wouldn't have got a decent latte up Terrace way hence why they would've started slow. Watch out this weekend when they can get their chai....

[namwob99]

Though I think cookers are better than the scoreline suggests, 4-0 is going to be tough to come back from. If they attack it just plays right into Terraces hands.

[leftrightout]

Though I think cookers are better than the scoreline suggests, 4-0 is going to be tough to come back from. If they attack it just plays right into Terraces hands.

Agree, Terrace are so good on the counter attack. Cooks Hill have to push for goals but it opens them up for Terrace to play to their strength. Tough one for a coach to know what to do!

[Wilso8948]

Tough one for a coach to know what to do!

My plan would be to score 4 or 5 goals without letting Terrace score any. Just my opinion.

[namwob99]

My plan would be to score 4 or 5 goals without letting Cooks Hill score any. Just my opinion.

Moving into coaching next year Wilson? Physios around town will miss you.

[onlooker]

My plan would be to score 4 or 5 goals without letting Cooks Hill score any. Just my opinion.
You reckon terrace will win 8-9 nil over two legs?? I'd be surprised with that lol!! Nah gather u ment don't let terrace score any!!

[leftrightout]

More rain forecast later this week on friday and saturday.
With Jesmond being at Jesmond park (which is terrible for wet weather) and having lost the first leg, you would think they would be working on a plan b?

[Retro Jet]

My plan would be to score 4 or 5 goals without letting Cooks Hill score any. Just my opinion.

:rof:

[hawk]

More rain forecast later this week on friday and saturday.
With Jesmond being at Jesmond park (which is terrible for wet weather) and having lost the first leg, you would think they would be working on a plan b?

So, IF you win the the first leg away and the 2nd leg is at your home ground and it is too wet to play you probably wouldn't be looking very hard for another ground? Or does the association take care of ground change?

[The Spy]

Jesmond will be working VERY hard to be playing this weekend I'd imagine.

And, I hope they've brewed some more for the keg.

[Wilso8948]

You reckon terrace will win 8-9 nil over two legs?? I'd be surprised with that lol!! Nah gather u ment don't let terrace score any!!

Correct. See this is why I'll never coach. Players would be running around not knowing wtf to do!

[Wilso8948]

Moving into coaching next year Wilson? Physios around town will miss you.

Yeh mate. Heading up to Bero. I heard their coach is shithouse.

[namwob99]

Yeh mate. Heading up to Bero. I heard their coach is shithouse.

I'll tell Neal you said that!! 😜

[RANGER09]

King park still available :thumbsup:
Will handle the wet weather forecasted

[roundballsarebetter]

Rain is certainly on its way now. Would like to think host clubs in all comps have contigencys in place to ensure their games get on this weekend

[LongSufferingFan]

Rain is certainly on its way now. Would like to think host clubs in all comps have contigencys in place to ensure their games get on this weekend

I drove past Warners Bay this morning and they had cricket covers over the side of the field near the creek.
I believe they have GFs there this weekend.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Just to keep people posted re Sunday - the contingency if Jesmond Park is no good is King Park, Raymond Terrace, which holds water a lot better. Thanks to those involved for being accommodating.
Being proactive would be our preference rather than whatever the alternative is, which may be to try and rush games midweek or whatever.
In addition to keeping hierarchy informed we will try and keep updates on here too.

[Kicktheball]

Surely you can find a better ground then Raymond terrace. Just saying

[pv4]

Just out of curiosity, how much does NNSW charge you to hire one of their all-weather grounds at Speers Point for a washout game (I assume they hire it out?)?

[Passtheballmate]

Surely you can find a better ground then Raymond terrace. Just saying

What would your suggestion be?

[The Spy]

Just out of curiosity, how much does NNSW charge you to hire one of their all-weather grounds at Speers Point for a washout game (I assume they hire it out?)?

I believe it's something like $160/hour. But you'd think they'd try and help out the local associations?!?

[leftrightout]

I believe it's something like $160/hour. But you'd think they'd try and help out the local associations?!?

Seems logical to move games there in event of bad weather, surely they will make enough money from food in their shitty cafeteria to make up for it.

[NUGUNS]

Surely you can find a better ground then Raymond terrace. Just saying

A few years ago we couldn't play on the main field at Terrace so I think we were forced to play on King Park 3.

From what I can remember the pitch itself was one of the best pitches I've played on.

The distance is a pretty shitty factor but at the end of the day I'd prefer to get the match played anywhere rather than not at all....

[RANGER09]

How's the Athletics field looking for tomorrow?

[pv4]

I believe it's something like $160/hour. But you'd think they'd try and help out the local associations?!?

:rof: you talk as if nnsw care about zone league clubs. The same northern that doesn't seem to care that half of the zone league teams in semis will miss out on the npl grand final.

With the electricity bill that was so well budgeted for at Football Five5, i don't think any team will ever get a discount/help in regards to that facility, hey. Just like how they're concerned about numbers that aren't showing up for 5aside but keep jacking up/not lowering prices to play it.

[pv4]

Btw in my opinion the absolute ultimate field during bad weather is the sand field at Stockton. Rarely if ever gets rained out.

[WWMTD?]

How's the Athletics field looking for tomorrow?

We decided as it's the last game of the year we wouldn't call it off, it would be up to the refs. Should be fine unless it flogs down. What we've had so far shouldn't trouble it greatly

[Bremsstrahlung]

Btw in my opinion the absolute ultimate field during bad weather is the sand field at Stockton. Rarely if ever gets rained out.

+1. It's a rough ground to slide tackle. Played a washout there as a 14 year old and was very excited to be playing in the rain, tried a slide tackle, bad bad bad bad idea.

[Buddha]

Btw in my opinion the absolute ultimate field during bad weather is the sand field at Stockton. Rarely if ever gets rained out.
You obviously haven't played on it in a while 😂 More dirt than sand now

[Retro Jet]

From Athfield today

3rds Jesmond 1 v Kotara 1
Res Cooks Hill 3 v Kotara 1
1st Cooks Hill 0 v Terrace 2

[Donk]

From Athfield today

3rds Jesmond 1 v Kotara 1
Res Cooks Hill 3 v Kotara 1
1st Cooks Hill 0 v Terrace 2

So who was away for 3rds cos wasn't last week 0 all

[namwob99]

Think that means kotara are through yeah?

[XRanger]

From Athfield today

3rds Jesmond 1 v Kotara 1
Res Cooks Hill 3 v Kotara 1
1st Cooks Hill 0 v Terrace 2

Cheers to the cooks hiill boys for a good clean game, a lot of class in that team, I think the terrible conditions may have helped our cause

[RANGER09]

No Jesmond through on away goal rule, interesting stat from one of their boys in 3rds, they haven't won a game in last 6 weeks but have made the Gf

[Kicktheball]

Cooks hill good all year and crumbled during the finals. Better luck next year

[XRanger]

Cooks hill good all year and crumbled during the finals. Better luck next year

Plenty of time for another team to crumble, I'm pretty sure there would be some happy teams knowing that cooks hill are out, they play a good brand of football.

[Passtheballmate]

From Athfield today

1st Cooks Hill 0 v Terrace 2

Well done Raymond Terrace thats quite a accomplishment to knock out such a quality team in cooks Hill. Especially when no one gave you a chance. Looking forward to watching the game next week.

[onlooker]

Well done Raymond Terrace thats quite a accomplishment to knock out such a quality team in cooks Hill. Especially when no one gave you a chance. Looking forward to watching the game next week.
Cheers mate and we will be looking forward to trying to work out the mystery of "who is " passtheballmate "
Lol

[XRanger]

Well done Raymond Terrace thats quite a accomplishment to knock out such a quality team in cooks Hill. Especially when no one gave you a chance. Looking forward to watching the game next week.
Cheers, every game has been a bonus for us , we had no right to even finish where we did considering the horror season we had with player availability each week and the strength of this comp. we are just happy we could get all our finals players through without any injuries or suspensions, which is a big relief after losing our 2 best players last year at the same stage..

[Passtheballmate]

Cheers mate and we will be looking forward to trying to work out the mystery of "who is " passtheballmate "
Lol


Cheers, every game has been a bonus for us , we had no right to even finish where we did considering the horror season we had with player availability each week and the strength of this comp. we are just happy we could get all our finals players through without any injuries or suspensions, which is a big relief after losing our 2 best players last year at the same stage..

Just an ex player onlooker that's been around the terrace club for awhile and retired. Just enjoy watching nowadays.
XRanger- always great to get through unscathed and go full strength. Did look like 1 of your strikers picked up an injury late in the game. Hopefully he's alright.

[XRanger]

Just an ex player onlooker that's been around the terrace club for awhile and retired. Just enjoy watching nowadays.
XRanger- always great to get through unscathed and go full strength. Did look like 1 of your strikers picked up an injury late in the game. Hopefully he's alright.
Mate he is the toughest player in this comp, won't phase him

[Donk]

Barnsley vs cooks Hill 3rds
3-1 Barnsley putting them into GF

[The Spy]

2-2 reserve grade
WB v Jesmond

[onlooker]

First grade
Jesmond 4 Stockton 1

Jesmond V Terrace GF

[Donk]

GF
3rds
Jesmond vs Barnsley
Res
Cooks Hill vs Warners Bay
1st
Jesmond vs Raymond Terrace

[leftrightout]

So 2 games out of the 6 were results turned around from 1st leg. Always a difficult thing to do.
Jesmond just seem to thrive when people doubt them. Early in the year, even when winning, not many were fully convinced and they just kept winning. Finally lost last week and many surely would have doubted yet again and they win like that! Well done and well deserved!

[Sambalam]

Disgusting display from 1 stockton supporter. Banter is a great part of the sport but he well and truly crossed the line by abusing families watching the game and telling young girls to "Suck me off". All of this (and much more) in a park packed full of kids and families enjoying fathers day.

Worth noting a few of his fellow supporters rightly told him to stop and he'd crossed the line but that was way too late (after the fulltime whistle)

[Passtheballmate]

First grade
Jesmond 4 Stockton 1

Jesmond V Terrace GF

Congrats Jesmond on turning around the 1st leg defeat. Definitely showed Stockton why you finished 1st on the table today. Going to be a cracking GF!

[Wilso8948]

Disgusting display from 1 stockton supporter. Banter is a great part of the sport but he well and truly crossed the line by abusing families watching the game and telling young girls to "Suck me off". All of this (and much more) in a park packed full of kids and families enjoying fathers day.

Worth noting a few of his fellow supporters rightly told him to stop and he'd crossed the line but that was way too late (after the fulltime whistle)
In no way do we condone this behaviour. Thanks for noting that most told him to stop. I certainly was one. Emotions got over the line and I apologise as a Stocko supporter/player.

[The Spy]

Interestingly, every team that finished third made the GF!

[leftrightout]

Interestingly, every team that finished third made the GF!

3rd grade is 3rd vs 4th, crazy!

[XRanger]

3rd grade is 3rd vs 4th, crazy!

I wouldn't say crazy, considering Barnsley won there last 8 comp games including all teams that made the finals and any team near, what a run,That was definitely the harder leg to get through, no real advantage there for cookers.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Jesmond v Stockton. Boy did we turn it on. The lads were more focused than I've seen them and scored 4 cracking goals. Stockton speaking of a GF up at Raymond Terrace on Saturday after singing the song after a 1-0 win in the 1st leg probably provided that extra little bit of motivation.

I wont comment on the inappropriate remarks because I didn't hear them but good on the majority who didn't approve and said something. To be honest every club has instances where one of their own oversteps the line, it happens, but as long as it's frowned upon rather than encouraged by seniors within then lets not hang the entire club out to dry.

Stockton have sometimes had a bad wrap on here but I haven't found them too bad and good on them for having a go yesterday and it not turning in a hackfest, which can happen when disappointment sets in. Yes there were some strong challenges but we were guilty of that too.

I will have a dig at the lack of support of a licensed venue. If your alcohol was taken to the ground that's poor form in my opinion. There were blokes from just about every other club supporting the game day hosts.

Everyone has their opinion but I feel Jesmond v Raymond Terrace is comfortably the best two teams playing one another in next weeks GF. Congratulations on the demolition of Cooks Hill who are a good side themselves. Saturday could be a cracker!

Awesome to get 2 grades playing on GF day too! Makes for a big day for our mob.

Lastly - can we get some support together to piss off this "away goal rule" for the lower grades? Keep it in 1st grade as makes sense but Jeso reggies playing "away' at Jesmond park yesterday is just stupid, and there are many other instances. Our 3rds got the rub of the green with it by beating Kotara on "away" goals when both sides were away for both legs and aggregate score 1-1. Makes no sense.

[Macca]

Have to agree with your last point, it would be too hard to have lower grades playing at the proper grounds for home and away. But having the away goal rule apply to them is rough, we had the same situation with our reserve graders playing the second leg at "home" against Wallsend at Wallsend.

[RANGER09]

Great effort from our Terrace 1st grade to make the final after taking promotion this year , looking forward to this Saturday.
Will be good to see the 2 playing that missed out on the final last year through injury.
Good luck to all the Teams playing on Saturday!

[Passtheballmate]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the games to come this weekend?

[WWMTD?]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the games to come this weekend?

3rds- Barnsley by 2
Ressies- Cookers either in ET or pens
1sts- Jeso by 2

[Thedazzler]

I wouldn't say crazy, considering Barnsley won there last 8 comp games including all teams that made the finals and any team near, what a run,That was definitely the harder leg to get through, no real advantage there for cookers.

While it sounds like Barnsley had a good end to the season, a huge factor was that Cooks Hill had all three grades in the finals. Having players who played a lot of football in third grade being used as fresh subs for reserve grade isn't ideal for winning finals games.

[hawk]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the games to come this weekend?

Players and supporters will start riots due to suspected thuggery, rule interpretations and disappointment. #magicoftheGF

[XRanger]

While it sounds like Barnsley had a good end to the season, a huge factor was that Cooks Hill had all three grades in the finals. Having players who played a lot of football in third grade being used as fresh subs for reserve grade isn't ideal for winning finals games.

You would imagine that would affect ressies and 1st grade more considering 3rd grade play firsts, any club who can qualify all grades to the finals is a massive achievement just on its own, big hats off to cookers and jeso on doing that.

[boz-monaut]

games are on at Macquarie Fields, Speers Point on Saturday 10 Sept for those interested in attending

http://websites.sportstg.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-8218-0-388325-0&a=FIXTURE

[onlooker]

games are on at Lisle Carr Oval, Whitebridge on Saturday 10 Sept for those interested in attending

http://websites.sportstg.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-8218-0-388325-0&a=FIXTURE
Ah that's ZL2 we are at Macuqrie Fields

[hawk]

Was going to mac field but fking weddings. 52 wks to choose from....

[Bulldogs 1962]

While it sounds like Barnsley had a good end to the season, a huge factor was that Cooks Hill had all three grades in the finals. Having players who played a lot of football in third grade being used as fresh subs for reserve grade isn't ideal for winning finals games.

I think you will find that cooks hill had the fresher squad for second game, barnsley had two changes from first leg, one starter and one bench and cooks hill had at least 4 the two who started in the middle of the park didn't feature at all in the first leg. I will say over the both games we feel we more then deserved it, cooks hill are a good side but we never really felt worried about getting the result even after loosing the first leg,

[WWMTD?]

I think you will find that cooks hill had the fresher squad for second game, barnsley had two changes from first leg, one starter and one bench and cooks hill had at least 4 the two who started in the middle of the park didn't feature at all in the first leg. I will say over the both games we feel we more then deserved it, cooks hill are a good side but we never really felt worried about getting the result even after loosing the first leg,

Only changes through injury, we lost our 2 starting CD in the first leg to hammy and ankle, and our usual DM sat that first one out due to back issue. You cant stack when everyone above is playing too!
Barnsley just wanted it more and when that happens you tend to get the good bounce or deflection which can lead to goals, that's why I think they will win 3rds

[WWMTD?]

[QUOTE=WWMTD?;162275]Only changes through injury, we lost our 2 starting CD in the first leg to hammy and ankle, and our usual DM sat that first one out due to back issue. You cant stack when everyone above is playing too!
Barnsley just wanted it more and when that happens you tend to get the good bounce or deflection which can lead to goals, that's why I think they will win 3rds

In reggies WB have been solid all year but round 18 was a draw and cookers looked better in the day, it will be really close.

Jeso have to be favourites in 1sts after the year they've had. Depending on which terrace team show up will determine how close it is, both capable of goals

[Wilso8948]

Only changes through injury, we lost our 2 starting CD in the first leg to hammy and ankle, and our usual DM sat that first one out due to back issue. You cant stack when everyone above is playing too!

Aren't you so lucky that with so many injuries you were still able to replace with more depth. You also can't "stack" in 3rd grade as players need to have qualified for said grade. In the end Barnsley won over the two legs. Whether they had teams in higher grades playing or not has no bearing on the end result. It would be like saying Stocko had an advantage over Jeso because our other grades didn't qualify for the finals. Clearly having "fresh" subs didn't help us much.

[Bulldogs 1962]

Only changes through injury, we lost our 2 starting CD in the first leg to hammy and ankle, and our usual DM sat that first one out due to back issue. You cant stack when everyone above is playing too!
Barnsley just wanted it more and when that happens you tend to get the good bounce or deflection which can lead to goals, that's why I think they will win 3rds

Definitely not implying you stacked at all just replying that we had less player changes then yourselves. We were the same with our changes being due to injuries. Makes it tiff on coach this week we have 19 fit and eligible for the 16 spots, hard choices ahead.

[RANGER09]

Funny how everyone suddenly becomes available at finals time :rof:

[XRanger]

[QUOTE=WWMTD?;162275]Only changes through injury, we lost our 2 starting CD in the first leg to hammy and ankle, and our usual DM sat that first one out due to back issue. You cant stack when everyone above is playing too!
Barnsley just wanted it more and when that happens you tend to get the good bounce or deflection which can lead to goals, that's why I think they will win 3rds

In reggies WB have been solid all year but round 18 was a draw and cookers looked better in the day, it will be really close.

Jeso have to be favourites in 1sts after the year they've had. Depending on which terrace team show up will determine how close it is, both capable of goals
No doubt Jeso should be favourites, any team to put a 20pt gap on the other team in the regular season must stand for something. Hopefully both teams are at full strength, which should make for a good game.

[hawk]

Funny how everyone suddenly becomes available at finals time :rof:

Those season ending injuries come good

[The Battler]

Anyone know if there's an entry fee today and if we can park in the oval? Cheers

[onlooker]

Anyone know if there's an entry fee today and if we can park in the oval? Cheers
Couldn't imagine they would be allowed to charge for entry.

[leftrightout]

Couldn't imagine they would be allowed to charge for entry.
No entry fee, yes you can park around the oval but they will do a quick check of your car to make sure no glass or alcohol is taken in.

[Retro Jet]

Scores from today
3rd Jesmond 1 v Barnsley 2
Res W/Bay 1 v Cooks Hill 3 on pens (0-0 FT)
1st Jesmond 1 v R/Terrace 3 (0-1 HT)

I just made it out for Cookers pens. Both teams trying to better Germany v Italy
shoot out from what I saw.

Watched 1st 10min and last 20min of 1sts. Terrace very hungry for the win.

Good luck Jesmond up in the big local league next year.

[Donk]

Scores from today
3rd Jesmond 1 v Barnsley 2
Res W/Bay 1 v Cooks Hill 3 on pens (0-0 FT)
1st Jesmond 1 v R/Terrace 3 (0-1 HT)

I just made it out for Cookers pens. Both teams trying to better Germany v Italy
shoot out from what I saw.

Watched 1st 10min and last 20min of 1sts. Terrace very hungry for the win.

Good luck Jesmond up in the big local league next year.
Jesmond choked ha ha ha

[WWMTD?]

Jesmond choked ha ha ha

Might be a low key night at Jeso hotel tonight!

[Donk]

Might be a low key night at Jeso hotel tonight!

2 teams no silver ware

[leftrightout]

2 teams no silver ware

Heard 3rd grade was an entertaining one, 2 red cards and 2 missed penalties in a tight match!

[Donk]

Heard 3rd grade was an entertaining one, 2 red cards and 2 missed penalties in a tight match!
It was very entertaining early goal to Jesmond both teams down to 10 men in one tackle both teams missing sitters and yes 2 penalties one missed one saved

And jesmond coach telling everyone after the game we shouldn't be proud of the win cos we stacked the team well guess what champ we can't there's rules players have to qualify stop being sore loser you were beat by a beater side..

[Wilso8948]

And jesmond coach telling everyone after the game we shouldn't be proud of the win cos we stacked the team well guess what champ we can't there's rules players have to qualify stop being sore loser you were beat by a beater side..
Must be why they lost first grade. Obviously had too many people back up after a big third grade and couldn't cope.
**** I hate the word stack.

[leftrightout]

It's funny how any lower grade team who wins has obviously "stacked" their team.
I watched Barnsley beat cooks hill last week in the semis and it definitely was not a "stacked" team they were playing with.

[XRanger]

2 teams no silver ware
The respect between these 2 clubs is invaluable, jesmond won the gold prize. Grand final was a privilege to play against these boys . Good season Jeso 50pts will be hard to beat

[Buddha]

Congrats Raymond Terrace. Finals football specialists, they just know how to win in the Finals.

[Donk]

At edgey watching jets pretty sure just confirmed Andrew hoole to Barnsley next season

[WWMTD?]

It's funny how any lower grade team who wins has obviously "stacked" their team.
I watched Barnsley beat cooks hill last week in the semis and it definitely was not a "stacked" team they were playing with.

Agreed, they just finished their chances better

[The Spy]

Can confirm that we at Warners Bay did not stack our team with penalty takers...

[Passtheballmate]

Well done to Raymond Terrace 1st grade on taking out the GF in their first year back in ZL1. That's an amazing effort when no one thought you'd even make the top 4. Well done in proving the doubters wrong.
Watching the game I think from the start you guys were on top. Jeso tried hard but just didn't seem to have it on the day.Poor Jeso defenders might still be trying to catch the 2 up front if the whistle hadn't gone already. Boy they are fast. 3-1 was a fitting result,but could've been more had the keeper not been solid.
Credit to Jeso on such a great season though. Undefeated takes a lot of effort and something definitely to celebrate.
Well done to all teams on making it such a tight comp. Looking forward to seeing how next year goes.

[youngenwithafootballbrain]

At edgey watching jets pretty sure just confirmed Andrew hoole to Barnsley next season

Ha! Wouldn't that be good, you guys might actually win more then one game. Lol! All credit to your teams though. Third grade finished the first round with around 7 points(?) then went on to become major premiers stuff what people are saying about "stacking" no chance there are rules to abide by, you can not stack. Your reserve grade had a few good wins and finished 5th. First grade could well have been up there they were a hard team to play most games just lacking that X-factor.

[Donk]

Ha! Wouldn't that be good, you guys might actually win more then one game. Lol! All credit to your teams though. Third grade finished the first round with around 7 points(?) then went on to become major premiers stuff what people are saying about "stacking" no chance there are rules to abide by, you can not stack. Your reserve grade had a few good wins and finished 5th. First grade could well have been up there they were a hard team to play most games just lacking that X-factor.

He will be a great addition to 3rds

[youngenwithafootballbrain]

He will be a great addition to 3rds

Can't wait to play against him, lol!

[Ram Raider]

It was very entertaining early goal to Jesmond both teams down to 10 men in one tackle both teams missing sitters and yes 2 penalties one missed one saved

And jesmond coach telling everyone after the game we shouldn't be proud of the win cos we stacked the team well guess what champ we can't there's rules players have to qualify stop being sore loser you were beat by a beater side..


Don't take our coaches opinion as that of the club.

And when you miss 2 penalties and an open goal inside the 6 you don't really deserve to win any game, let alone a Grand Final. Did think the send off of both players was very harsh, yellow at best for both and if the ref had being consistent we would of ended up with 8 on the park by full time.

And congrats to all the other winners on the day. Terrace had a plan and executed it perfectly. Thought we were a chance of grabbing the equaliser late on but as happens when chasing games that third goal is never far away.

On a side note, why is it that the big clubs like Lakes, Magic and Adamstown continue to take all the profits on days like Saturday. Whilst the GF deserves to be played on a good field with good facilities (mind you, one working shower in the home shed is pretty ordinary) surely each club represented on the day should get a cut of the profits from the canteen and alcohol sales. Possibly hosting club 40% and 10% to each side playing on the day.

[EH9]

Don't take our coaches opinion as that of the club.

And when you miss 2 penalties and an open goal inside the 6 you don't really deserve to win any game, let alone a Grand Final. Did think the send off of both players was very harsh, yellow at best for both and if the ref had being consistent we would of ended up with 8 on the park by full time.

And congrats to all the other winners on the day. Terrace had a plan and executed it perfectly. Thought we were a chance of grabbing the equaliser late on but as happens when chasing games that third goal is never far away.

On a side note, why is it that the big clubs like Lakes, Magic and Adamstown continue to take all the profits on days like Saturday. Whilst the GF deserves to be played on a good field with good facilities (mind you, one working shower in the home shed is pretty ordinary) surely each club represented on the day should get a cut of the profits from the canteen and alcohol sales. Possibly hosting club 40% and 10% to each side playing on the day.

Would each club split the cost of hiring the facility and provide workers etc for the match preparation and game day?

[Retro Jet]

Don't take our coaches opinion as that of the club.

And when you miss 2 penalties and an open goal inside the 6 you don't really deserve to win any game, let alone a Grand Final. Did think the send off of both players was very harsh, yellow at best for both and if the ref had being consistent we would of ended up with 8 on the park by full time.

And congrats to all the other winners on the day. Terrace had a plan and executed it perfectly. Thought we were a chance of grabbing the equaliser late on but as happens when chasing games that third goal is never far away.

On a side note, why is it that the big clubs like Lakes, Magic and Adamstown continue to take all the profits on days like Saturday. Whilst the GF deserves to be played on a good field with good facilities (mind you, one working shower in the home shed is pretty ordinary) surely each club represented on the day should get a cut of the profits from the canteen and alcohol sales. Possibly hosting club 40% and 10% to each side playing on the day.

Hmmmm...yet club happy to pay overs for strikers though. :blush:

[youngenwithafootballbrain]

Don't take our coaches opinion as that of the club.

And when you miss 2 penalties and an open goal inside the 6 you don't really deserve to win any game, let alone a Grand Final. Did think the send off of both players was very harsh, yellow at best for both and if the ref had being consistent we would of ended up with 8 on the park by full time.

And congrats to all the other winners on the day. Terrace had a plan and executed it perfectly. Thought we were a chance of grabbing the equaliser late on but as happens when chasing games that third goal is never far away.

On a side note, why is it that the big clubs like Lakes, Magic and Adamstown continue to take all the profits on days like Saturday. Whilst the GF deserves to be played on a good field with good facilities (mind you, one working shower in the home shed is pretty ordinary) surely each club represented on the day should get a cut of the profits from the canteen and alcohol sales. Possibly hosting club 40% and 10% to each side playing on the day.

Was your coach a little butthurt? Lol

[onlooker]

With the NPL and northern league 1 sorted does anyone know what knock on effect if any it will have on our grades??

[leftrightout]

With the NPL and northern league 1 sorted does anyone know what knock on effect if any it will have on our grades??

You would have to think, with NL going up, no teams relegated from any grade but one promoted from each grade to keep 10 team comps. Would need extra teams in L3 but that may be possible with the new age divisions in NPL forcing extra players into zone leagues

[Retro Jet]

With New Lambton bumped up it poses the question as to whether to keep
Garden Suburb up in ZPL or promote the 2nd placed club from ZL1...which would be Cookers :shock:

[Donk]

With New Lambton bumped up it poses the question as to whether to keep
Garden Suburb up in ZPL or promote the 2nd placed club from ZL1...which would be Cookers :shock:
You can apply

[Beeen]

With New Lambton bumped up it poses the question as to whether to keep
Garden Suburb up in ZPL or promote the 2nd placed club from ZL1...which would be Cookers :shock:

Henry Rollins! It's the garden suburb fella here. I completely forgot my forum username talking to you post grand final.

[Premy]

With New Lambton bumped up it poses the question as to whether to keep
Garden Suburb up in ZPL or promote the 2nd placed club from ZL1...which would be Cookers :shock:

Nominations have been sent out, it's up to Cookers to apply for which league they would like.
Then it's up to Newcastles Football to decided on who plays where.

Plenty of things can happen between now and the start of next season.

[Retro Jet]

Henry Rollins! It's the garden suburb fella here. I completely forgot my forum username talking to you post grand final.

Bummer you forgot. I could have had a great rave about Hamburg with you that night ;)

[The Spy]

You wouldn't know what they have in store. They seem to love a bye so much that ZPL will probably be 11 teams and ZL1 will have 9. That seems to be the logic these days...

[Premy]

You wouldn't know what they have in store. They seem to love a bye so much that ZPL will probably be 11 teams and ZL1 will have 9. That seems to be the logic these days...

Northern have nothing to do with Zone League's. Zone League's are run by Newcastles Football on behalf of the other member associations, again nothing to do with NNSWF. So your sarcasm about the NPL and Northern League 1 are completely misdirected.

[Reds Forever]

Nominations have been sent out, it's up to Cookers to apply for which league they would like.
Then it's up to Newcastles Football to decided on who plays where.

Plenty of things can happen between now and the start of next season.

Doesn't there need to be a gap between teams from same club? Meaning Cooks Hill ID can only ever play in ID1 as Cooks Hill have team in NewFM.

[Premy]

Doesn't there need to be a gap between teams from same club? Meaning Cooks Hill ID can only ever play in ID1 as Cooks Hill have team in NewFM.

Not completely sure between ZPL and Northern League 1.

There needs to be a gap between 2 teams from the same Club in the Zone league's, example would be Uni's lower side cannot progress higher than ZL2. Given that Northern League 1(NewFM) and ZPL are run by different associations could mean different rules apply.

[WWMTD?]

Doesn't there need to be a gap between teams from same club? Meaning Cooks Hill ID can only ever play in ID1 as Cooks Hill have team in NewFM.

Cookers have no interest in ZPL. If you're good enough for ZPL at our club you should be paying newfm. Besides, 1st grade haven't made a GF or won a minor in ZL1 so it would be a cheap promotion

[The Spy]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships. That'll mean ZL3 becomes an 8 team comp, or Tenambit or Kurri might come back into the fold?

[Premy]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships. That'll mean ZL3 becomes an 8 team comp, or Tenambit or Kurri might come back into the fold?

I heard Maitland and Lake Macquarie are keen to get Zone League sides started up this upcoming season.

[WWMTD?]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships. That'll mean ZL3 becomes an 8 team comp, or Tenambit or Kurri might come back into the fold?

Sounds sensible. I'd doubt anyone is getting dropped

[pv4]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships.

Premierships, not championships.

[onlooker]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships. That'll mean ZL3 becomes an 8 team comp, or Tenambit or Kurri might come back into the fold?

Was actually talking to the Tenambit Prez on Monday and I know he is keen on getting a squad back in the grades, it will just come down to getting numbers for the team which will be hard as at least 6 of the 12 from this seasons attempt at a squad left the club all together and a few others are looking to follow those to their new club for next year!

[onlooker]

I heard Maitland and Lake Macquarie are keen to get Zone League sides started up this upcoming season.

Iv heard Lakes have applied for a team to come straight into league one. Because the players they are looking to put in that squad are the ones to old for their age squads but didn't make first.

[The Spy]

Premierships, not championships.

Thank you Milhouse.

[pv4]

Iv heard Lakes have applied for a team to come straight into league one. Because the players they are looking to put in that squad are the ones to old for their age squads but didn't make first.

I think those guys and that club will be in for a rude shock when they get to the realities of Zone Leagues to be honest.

Put them in ZL3 and if they're actually good enough, they'll be in ZL1 within 2 years. I suspect they won't go up the comps that easily though. All the Zone League clubs are already filled with ex-NEWFM players not good enough for first grade (edit: yours truly a prime example :rof: ).

[Beeen]

Bummer you forgot. I could have had a great rave about Hamburg with you that night ;)

You'll see Bon and i at Jets games. Got nothing better to do. Love a good Hamburg yarn.

[WFC_ZL]

Put them in ZL3 and if they're actually good enough, they'll be in ZL1 within 2 years. I suspect they won't go up the comps that easily though. All the Zone League clubs are already filled with ex-NEWFM players not good enough for first grade

This is what happened at Wallsend when we were accepted back into NEWFM. We inquired about nominating for League 1 with the players who didnt make the cut for NEWFM and were told we had to start at the bottom and work our way up. Had a good amount stick around and made it to league 2 at the 1st attempt. Didnt quite reach our goal of getting to League one this year coming in 2nd. The top half of League 2 was tough this year and there are some quality players kicking around in this division.

[pv4]

This is what happened at Wallsend when we were accepted back into NEWFM. We inquired about nominating for League 1 with the players who didnt make the cut for NEWFM and were told we had to start at the bottom and work our way up. Had a good amount stick around and made it to league 2 at the 1st attempt. Didnt quite reach our goal of getting to League one this year coming in 2nd. The top half of League 2 was tough this year and there are some quality players kicking around in this division.

Exactly. Particularly because Lakes are confirmed in npl for 3 years, that's plenty of time for their non-first graders to make it to ZL1 or higher if they're good enough.

[Premy]

It's all pure speculation until Newcastle Football make there decision.
Nominations have been sent out, it's up to each respective club to decide which division they nominate. Then it's up to Russell and Newcastle Football to decide on who goes in what divisions.

[hawk]

It's all pure speculation until Newcastle Football make there decision.
Nominations have been sent out, it's up to each respective club to decide which division they nominate. Then it's up to Russell and Newcastle Football to decide on who goes in what divisions.

Suburb keen to stay in ZL?

[Premy]

Suburb keen to stay in ZL?

We were always keen to stay on the proviso that there was a spot made available by the promotion of New Lambton.
Never wanted to get in Jesmonds way and we only hope that Newcastle Football decide to spare us now there's a place in ZPL avaliable.

[Passtheballmate]

Any other clubs willing to think they could go up to ZPL if the opportunities there? Cookers say don't want to. TERRACE took out the GF but lower grades finished lower half of table. Stockton 4th but lower grades the same as terrace.
Personally don't think a club that doesn't win the comp should be rewarded by going up a division.

[youngenwithafootballbrain]

If we scrap relegation from any grade, promote those who won their championships. That'll mean ZL3 becomes an 8 team comp, or Tenambit or Kurri might come back into the fold?

Hearing whispers shortland are trying to make a ZL3 team like Edgeworth and Argenton have done the past two seasons

[pv4]

Thank you Milhouse.

Better yet why don't the federations take into account club championship? I know in sydney first and second division the winner of the comps, prom/relegation are all decided on club championship.

Now that npl has gone to u20 to reflect the changes in sydney & elsewhere, why don't northern and the federations takeinto account club championship a bit more seriously in newcastle? Putting more emphasis on the entire clubs can never be a bad thing right? Surely it's a more sustainable way to assess promotion relegation

[The Spy]

Any other clubs willing to think they could go up to ZPL if the opportunities there? Cookers say don't want to. TERRACE took out the GF but lower grades finished lower half of table. Stockton 4th but lower grades the same as terrace.
Personally don't think a club that doesn't win the comp should be rewarded by going up a division.

I'd imagine Kotara or Warners Bay would be keen? Both have been very consistent over the last couple of years (taking Cookers out of the equation).

[Wilso8948]

I'd imagine if some Kotara players played to their ability in the appropriate grade they'd be a lot more successful in firsts and not so much in the lower grades. Rather then the reverse.

[onlooker]

Any other clubs willing to think they could go up to ZPL if the opportunities there? Cookers say don't want to. TERRACE took out the GF but lower grades finished lower half of table. Stockton 4th but lower grades the same as terrace.
Personally don't think a club that doesn't win the comp should be rewarded by going up a division.

To be fair to Terrace res grade after round 7 we were sitting third but unfortunately as happens, it was around that time we started to rack up the injuries in firsts meaning res sent players up, we also lost a few res players to injury and from that point on we had a lot of guys playing both thirds and res due to the low numbers we had to start with. By the time we got players back it was well to late. I believe if we had a better run with injuries and such we would have finished a lot higher then we did. But we didn't and that's football I guess.

[Reds Forever]

To be fair to Terrace res grade after round 7 we were sitting third but unfortunately as happens, it was around that time we started to rack up the injuries in firsts meaning res sent players up, we also lost a few res players to injury and from that point on we had a lot of guys playing both thirds and res due to the low numbers we had to start with. By the time we got players back it was well to late. I believe if we had a better run with injuries and such we would have finished a lot higher then we did. But we didn't and that's football I guess.

I hear their form slipped when they lost their inspirational keeper to first grade. Is this correct?

[Wilso8948]

To be fair to Terrace res grade after round 7 we were sitting third but unfortunately as happens, it was around that time we started to rack up the injuries in firsts meaning res sent players up, we also lost a few res players to injury and from that point on we had a lot of guys playing both thirds and res due to the low numbers we had to start with. By the time we got players back it was well to late. I believe if we had a better run with injuries and such we would have finished a lot higher then we did. But we didn't and that's football I guess.

Pretty much what happened at Stocko too and I'm sure other clubs.

[KSSFC]

I'd imagine if some Kotara players played to their ability in the appropriate grade they'd be a lot more successful in firsts and not so much in the lower grades. Rather then the reverse.

Surely your not saying kotara have played players in lower grades at the expense of first grade?

[Wilso8948]

Surely your not saying kotara have played players in lower grades at the expense of first grade?

There was a suggestion that clubs with good depth should be promoted. Kotara was then brought up. Over the past years I've seen Kotara players spruiking how successful they have been in lower grades whilst missing finals in first grade for consecutive years. To then suggest that this would be a platform for promotion would in my opinion be unfortunate. Depth is not being successful in lower leagues whilst struggling in first grade. Depth is being successful across the board.

[KSSFC]

There was a suggestion that clubs with good depth should be promoted. Kotara was then brought up. Over the past years I've seen Kotara players spruiking how successful they have been in lower grades whilst missing finals in first grade for consecutive years. To then suggest that this would be a platform for promotion would in my opinion be unfortunate. Depth is not being successful in lower leagues whilst struggling in first grade. Depth is being successful across the board.

I agree with you that promotion shouldn't be based on depth, should be based on first grade results, but coming 5th the last couple of years on goal difference or by a point or two is hardly struggling (although not a success either and we shouldn't be promoted of these results)

[onlooker]

I hear their form slipped when they lost their inspirational keeper to first grade. Is this correct?

Haha I wish mate, going off results probably matches up to the time first's started dropping points lol!! Sure that was just coincidental tho!! Lol

[Couchcoach]

Probably should check with the Cooks Hill players like Beaten Favourite to see if they are keen for the ZPL challenge or not. Looks like this forum two different views expressed by Cooks Hill committee members I'm guessing... The ZL1 team towelled up Swansea (ZPL) in all three grades in a trail in preseason and did over the Cooks Hill NEWFM guys in trials as well. So I'm thinking they would be competitive...


Cookers have no interest in ZPL. If you're good enough for ZPL at our club you should be paying newfm. Besides, 1st grade haven't made a GF or won a minor in ZL1 so it would be a cheap promotion

[gregorywprice]

Merewether Advance S.F.C

Zone League Two

Club Coach - 2017 Season

We are seeking applications for the position of club coach in 2017. The club has a long and proud history since 1894 which we are eager to continue. After a number of consistent seasons we are seeking a coach to push the club on to the next level. The successful applicant will bring an emphasis on success on the park as well as share our enthusiasm for all aspects of the game. Coaching experience is desired though other experience in the game will be considered. Closing date for applications is 5.00pm on the 28th of October. If interested please email your application to merewetheradvance@hotmail.com or contact Greg on 0410 517 813.

[Passtheballmate]

Word on the ZPL thread is that kotara have been promoted?? Can anyone confirm??

[Donk]

Word on the ZPL thread is that kotara have been promoted?? Can anyone confirm??

This is correct suburb down Jesmond kotara up
Nelson bay down west lakes wallsend up etc

[Passtheballmate]

This is correct suburb down Jesmond kotara up
Nelson bay down west lakes wallsend up etc

Surprised for Kotara, Goodluck to them though. Wonder how Stockton feel about that, normally they are the ones that get promoted without winning anything.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I agree with you that promotion shouldn't be based on depth, should be based on first grade results, but coming 5th the last couple of years on goal difference or by a point or two is hardly struggling (although not a success either and we shouldn't be promoted of these results)

Interesting you say this. but apply.

Good luck.

I wonder what the difference between Kotara, Warnersbay and Cooks Hill was, that put them over the line.

Good luck to all for the season ahead.

[Donk]

Interesting you say this. but apply.

Good luck.

I wonder what the difference between Kotara, Warnersbay and Cooks Hill was, that put them over the line.

Good luck to all for the season ahead.

Did they all apply?

[Frodo]

Let's all just get down to what really matters...

League 1 gets to enjoy the best canteen of the entire Zone Leagues next year, so they are the real winners here. :woo::woo::woo:

If anyone thinks they can compete i'm all ears. Bring on your burgers.

[Donk]

Let's all just get down to what really matters...

League 1 gets to enjoy the best canteen of the entire Zone Leagues next year, so they are the real winners here. :woo::woo::woo:

If anyone thinks they can compete i'm all ears. Bring on your burgers.

Can't say I've had the pleasure of trying the food should I?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Can't say I've had the pleasure of trying the food should I?

Everyone should, then provide your feedback, regardless of positive or negative :)

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Did they all apply?

A number of clubs did, those were names that were being thrown around, but I won't comment for other clubs on whether they did or not.

Just interested on what the criteria was that got them over the line.

Might find out in the ZL meeting tonight. :)

Probably the fact they've been in ZL1 longest & most consistent of the applicants, just as Suburb were when they went up.

[Donk]

Everyone should, then provide your feedback, regardless of positive or negative :)
Well I'll have the chance next season I'll let you know

[Donk]

A number of clubs did, those were names that were being thrown around, but I won't comment for other clubs on whether they did or not.

Just interested on what the criteria was that got them over the line.

Might find out in the ZL meeting tonight. :)

Probably the fact they've been in ZL1 longest & most consistent of the applicants, just as Suburb were when they went up.

I find it funny like pointed out before 2 of 3 of those clubs posted on here they wouldn't because it should be earned but then they apply.

It will be interesting to find out how they were picked

[Premy]

A number of clubs did, those were names that were being thrown around, but I won't comment for other clubs on whether they did or not.

Just interested on what the criteria was that got them over the line.

Might find out in the ZL meeting tonight. :)

Probably the fact they've been in ZL1 longest & most consistent of the applicants, just as Suburb were when they went up.

From ZL3-ZL1 1st and 2nd went up and last down. I feel the "Zone Football League Panel" decided that relegation would be forced and then the highest placed team to apply for promotion received it. If that was the case then I understand how this decision has been made. However if that was the case I don't understand why they asked all clubs for EOI when the clubs that came last had no chance in acceptance. The Email sent out said the 9 ZPL clubs were exempt from submitting a EOI it could have easy been adjusted to also add the 3 relegated clubs.

Knowing we had no chance of ZPL would have changed our approach on planning for next year instead of waiting to see.

There has been no transparency in the process and no criteria outlined, all that was asked was to answer 5 questions. We felt we answered all aspects of the EOI and put a good case for ZPL forward, unfortunately for us that's not to be. The process could have been done a lot better which is strange because I feel Newcastle Football is generally well ran.

It makes it interesting now moving into the future because a precedent has been set.

[sammydog]

I find it funny like pointed out before 2 of 3 of those clubs posted on here they wouldn't because it should be earned but then they apply.

It will be interesting to find out how they were picked

The selection criteria that was required to be addressed was;

1. Why your club should be considered,
2. What plans does your club have for the future,
3. Facilities upgrades,
4. Squad roster strengths,
5. Do you have a Junior development – connection / support of a Junior Club?

Id be interested to know which clubs actually applied.

[Premy]

I find it funny like pointed out before 2 of 3 of those clubs posted on here they wouldn't because it should be earned but then they apply.

It will be interesting to find out how they were picked

I'm lead to believe Cooks Hill didn't apply, as for the others I've not heard if they did or didn't.

[Beppe]

I find it funny like pointed out before 2 of 3 of those clubs posted on here they wouldn't because it should be earned but then they apply.

It will be interesting to find out how they were picked

probably not committee members and don't have a say. end of the day, kotara promoted, had best submission.

[Premy]

The selection criteria that was required to be addressed was;

1. Why your club should be considered,
2. What plans does your club have for the future,
3. Facilities upgrades,
4. Squad roster strengths,
5. Do you have a Junior development – connection / support of a Junior Club?

Id be interested to know which clubs actually applied.

I would hardly call that a criteria and more a questionnaire.

[Beppe]

Premy, in your honest assessment - how do you think suburbs stack up against kotara in these areas

[Premy]

Premy, in your honest assessment - how do you think suburbs stack up against kotara in these areas
Don't mistake my comments of unwill towards Kotara. It's the process I'm not impressed with, I said in another thread I wish you guys all the best.
However I'll still answer your question.

1- We helped stabilize ZPL when it was in need. In recent years we have been a successful and stable club.
2-Our future plans are committed to youth development and upgrades of our facilities.
3. Currently in the process of upgrading the surface of our secondary field and reconfiguring it to be a full sized pitch.
Our main oval has funding approved for underground irrigation and work is underway to improve the surface.
Upgrades aside whilst Lance Yorke isn't fantastic I feel it is better than Nesbitt in all areas of Surface, dressing rooms, spectator viewing and catering.
4. I can't comment as I haven't seen you guys play enough.
5. Again I can't comment as I don't know what you guys do with your junior's. I can tell you in this season just gone we have had 16 and 17 y/o start for our first grade. Our U/16 train with our ZL squad and one of them filled in with our 3rd grade (who was only 14). Something we will be working towards even more with our U/17 next season.

[pv4]

Knowing we had no chance of ZPL would have changed our approach on planning for next year instead of waiting to see.

Out of pure genuine interest, what would have changed? Either way it's 3 grades required. How would the clubs approach have changed whether it was confirmed ZPL/ZL1 or this waiting period. What would have changed?

[sammydog]

Don't mistake my comments of unwill towards Kotara. It's the process I'm not impressed with, I said in another thread I wish you guys all the best.
However I'll still answer your question.

1- We helped stabilize ZPL when it was in need. In recent years we have been a successful and stable club.
2-Our future plans are committed to youth development and upgrades of our facilities.
3. Currently in the process of upgrading the surface of our secondary field and reconfiguring it to be a full sized pitch.
Our main oval has funding approved for underground irrigation and work is underway to improve the surface.
Upgrades aside whilst Lance Yorke isn't fantastic I feel it is better than Nesbitt in all areas of Surface, dressing rooms, spectator viewing and catering.
4. I can't comment as I haven't seen you guys play enough.
5. Again I can't comment as I don't know what you guys do with your junior's. I can tell you in this season just gone we have had 16 and 17 y/o start for our first grade. Our U/16 train with our ZL squad and one of them filled in with our 3rd grade (who was only 14). Something we will be working towards even more with our U/17 next season.

My opinion on this, to add to Premy's comments.

Point 1 - We would both have a decent argument or neither club would have applied.

Point 2 - Premy nailed it, but we are also pushing coach accreditation and are currently developing a 10-20 year club plan.

Point 3 - Add to that we have the go ahead to clear the hill on the second ground, turf it and add seating. We are looking at how we can put in an awning over part of the hill in the future. This will give us two grounds with seated elevated hills. Both pitches having fences separating spectators from the fields. When irrigation comes on the bottom ground (within the next 2 seasons) we will in most likelihood jump straight onto the Rye Grass program. We also have plans to have drainage installed on the top pitch.

As a club we have Delegated Authority to manage the facility. We dont share with other sports (cricket, athletics, scouts, etc) which puts us in a good position to drive upgrades specific to our needs.

Point 4 - I dont think anyone can give a definitive indication of their squad when you dont know the grade you will be in.

Point 5 - I think Kotara are stronger than us in this regard through strength of numbers in their junior base. I dont know what connection their juniors have to the Zone League, certainly in the past in our club there was very little line of sight, but in the last 12 months we have really turned this around to have the juniors interacting with the Zone League.



From my perspective, the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. I think we have it over Kotara in the facilities and the potential for development as we aren't a shared venue, but they clearly have it over us with the junior connection. I think both clubs are well run clubs as well with the people behind them focusing on the right things, I hope Kotara do well in the ZPL and that we are back up soon enough to join them.

End of the day though, the decision is made. We will live with it and use it for motivation to try and get back to the ZPL as soon as we can. As a club that is where we want to be and its time to work and earn our place back. We will welcome any players who share this and want to work towards this goal with us.

[Premy]

Out of pure genuine interest, what would have changed? Either way it's 3 grades required. How would the clubs approach have changed whether it was confirmed ZPL/ZL1 or this waiting period. What would have changed?

We have had coaches awaiting to find out what division we would be in before they committed. In the mean time they were approached by other clubs and decided to take other options.
Approaching sponsors with uncertainty around which division we would play has been challenging. Working out budgets and player registration will now have to change. All of these things take up time, something that myself and other volunteers are short on.

I'm sure you could understand our frustrations with now having to squeeze all the planning for next season into a shorter time frame.

[hawk]

This is correct suburb down Jesmond kotara up
Nelson bay down west lakes wallsend up etc

ay? have i missed something or does this mean a bye in ZPl and ZL1?

[Donk]

ay? have i missed something or does this mean a bye in ZPl and ZL1?

You have missed something.

New lambton went up to Npl2
Suburb relegated to ZL1

so the 2 spots in ZPL went to
Jesmond
Kotara

So promotion relegation stands and then extra one comes up to make up the loss of new lambton etc

[Donk]

You have missed something.

New lambton went up to Npl2
Suburb relegated to ZL1

so the 2 spots in ZPL went to
Jesmond
Kotara

So promotion relegation stands and then extra one comes up to make up the loss of new lambton etc
No byes all 4 comps 10 team with some new teams into zl3

[hawk]

You have missed something.

New lambton went up to Npl2
Suburb relegated to ZL1

so the 2 spots in ZPL went to
Jesmond
Kotara

So promotion relegation stands and then extra one comes up to make up the loss of new lambton etc

cheers man. very interesting.

[BP Super Dynamos]

No byes all 4 comps 10 team with some new teams into zl3

Who's the new sides in ZL3?

[Premy]

Who's the new sides in ZL3?

Lake Macquarie FC and Lake Macquarie City FC

[Passtheballmate]

Did an extra team come up from ZL2 other then west lakes??

[Dobbo]

Wallsend went up from ZL2 also.

[pv4]

We have had coaches awaiting to find out what division we would be in before they committed. In the mean time they were approached by other clubs and decided to take other options.
Approaching sponsors with uncertainty around which division we would play has been challenging. Working out budgets and player registration will now have to change. All of these things take up time, something that myself and other volunteers are short on.

I'm sure you could understand our frustrations with now having to squeeze all the planning for next season into a shorter time frame.

I guess I just don't understand the difference from the point of view of sponsors, coaches, etc whether it be ZPL or ZL1. Coaches and players maybe I can understand a bit more, but I guess I don't understand why a potential sponsor would give more or less $$ depending on ZPL or ZL1. The exposure seems the same, the amount of grades the same, etc.

I agree uncertainty is never good though.

[pv4]

With respect to who gets prom/rel - I've always been under the belief it should be like in Sydneys NSWPL (NPL) that it should be based on Club Championship rather than solely first grade.

[namwob99]

Lake Macquarie FC and Lake Macquarie City FC
Whaaaaaaaat?

[WFC_ZL]

Wallsend FC

Zone League 1

Wallsend FC are seeking expressions of interest for coaching staff for the 2017 Zone League season. Positions are open for both 1st,Reserve and 3rd grade. 2017 will see the 130th anniversary of Wallsend FC and after a strong season in which both teams made the top 4 in ZL2 the club is looking for coaches to take the Zone League squad to the next level.

Coaching qualifications and experience desired but not essential.
Please email applications with relevant details to wallsendfc.zl@gmail.com. For more details contact Ray on 0439 315 690.