2017 National Premier League thread

[ForeverRed]

When's Ruben going to stop complaining, every week his moaning

[MFKS]

When's Ruben going to stop complaining, every week his moaning

What's his gripe this week FR??

The state of the toilets at Magic Park or Olympic fans are bringing pizza to Magic Park this weekend??

[ForeverRed]

His got to many injured players, poor bugger

[MFKS]

His got to many injured players, poor bugger
I watched Magic play at the weekend and from memory these blokes started

Faj up front
Kale wide left
Vigili wide right
Haynes in the 10
Shane Paul in CM
Luke Virgili was at Left Back
Piddo was a CB
The bloke from Tassie in goals

Not placing the other spots I missing but even
Petit was on the bench

What the **** he talking about??

[The Magician]

I watched Magic play at the weekend and from memory these blokes started

Faj up front
Kale wide left
Vigili wide right
Haynes in the 10
Shane Paul in CM
Luke Virgili was at Left Back
Piddo was a CB
The bloke from Tassie in goals

Not placing the other spots I missing but even
Petit was on the bench

What the **** he talking about??

Current injury list...
KANTA... season
BARBER... season
GRIFF... unknown
FOTEFF... 3 weeks
ROBINSON... 3 weeks

[MFKS]

Current injury list...
KANTA... season
BARBER... season
GRIFF... unknown
FOTEFF... 3 weeks
ROBINSON... 3 weeks
So 5 blokes out injured and can still have enough depth that you can leave Scott Petit on the bench??


Zads is taking the piss really

[Bremsstrahlung]

So 5 blokes out injured and can still have enough depth that you can leave Scott Petit on the bench??


Zads is taking the piss really

Looks like majority of those are central midfielders/defenders. Petit is more an an attacker/winger.

[Blueboy]

poor Magic. The only team in the Comp with injuries apparently.

[Lofty]

Pretty sure the only comments were on the injury replacement rules. You can't sign a player on injury waiver from the local league. You're only allowed to sign players outside the league which was a rule change from this year.
You can take what you want from a reporter who cuts and pastes the comments he chooses to create an article to get people talking. If you're that ignorant to not realize that, then there isn't much more that can be said to you - believe what you like.

[De-Champ]

Pretty sure the only comments were on the injury replacement rules. You can't sign a player on injury waiver from the local league. You're only allowed to sign players outside the league which was a rule change from this year.
You can take what you want from a reporter who cuts and pastes the comments he chooses to create an article to get people talking. If you're that ignorant to not realize that, then there isn't much more that can be said to you - believe what you like.

The funny thing is in the same article Zadcovich went on to say that he likes promoting youth anyway. So his gripe did not make sense.

[Lofty]

The funny thing is in the same article Zadcovich went on to say that he likes promoting youth anyway. So his gripe did not make sense.

He does like promoting youth. He's had a 17 year old start the last two games while bringing on two more teens for their debut.
He doesn't understand why you can't sign a player from within the league rather than having to look for someone from a different league. You can't expect a young kid to slot straight in and become a permanent first grader in the midfield. You need to bleed the kids in and give them a proper chance which I'm sure they will still get. If you can't work it out, then I can't help you any further.

[De-Champ]

He does like promoting youth. He's had a 17 year old start the last two games while bringing on two more teens for their debut.
He doesn't understand why you can't sign a player from within the league rather than having to look for someone from a different league. You can't expect a young kid to slot straight in and become a permanent first grader in the midfield. You need to bleed the kids in and give them a proper chance which I'm sure they will still get. If you can't work it out, then I can't help you any further.

Like someone said as if magic are the only club with injuries. If a club with the depth/squad magic have are complaining about signing players etc spare a thought for clubs that don't have half the depth/squad that magic have... I think he is doing a lot of complaining because his side are not winning, not top of the pile. If they were he would be praising them instead.

[Lofty]

Like someone said as if magic are the only club with injuries. If a club with the depth/squad magic have are complaining about signing players etc spare a thought for clubs that don't have half the depth/squad that magic have... I think he is doing a lot of complaining because his side are not winning, not top of the pile. If they were he would be praising them instead.

Well I can certainly tell you that Ruben isn't going to the Herald because he wants to have a whinge with them. He's more than happy to mind his own business and get on with the job. I guess the reporters do a pretty good job of picking out only people who are going to give them the clicks on articles they need because he's going to speak honestly.

[ForeverRed]

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

[Blueboy]

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

Do you pay the bills do you?

[Lofty]

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,


Do you pay the bills do you?

After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

[GO AWAY]

After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

There is 500 plus between Maguire, tull, ferguson, sulini at azzurri, so would be hard to beat

[MFKS]

After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

I am with FR

Magic may not be paying the most money in the comp but they definitely one of the better paying sides out there

[Lofty]

There is 500 plus between Maguire, tull, ferguson, sulini at azzurri, so would be hard to beat

To be fair, those boys are certainly loyal and good blokes. But Piddo and Haynes alone are around 450. You then have Higgins 150+, Luke Virgili, Hoole, Griff who are 100+ so there's around 900 without even mentioning Foteff, Bradbury, Alex Kanta. And all of those figures are from last year. So there would be well in excess of over a 1000 games there.
No way is that a dig at Azzuri, but if people can honestly think that these boys haven't turned down bigger money from others club and to remain at Magic then they're absolutely kidding themselves.

I wonder how many First division games are in the current South Cardiff squad..... :lulz:

[Lofty]

I am with FR

Magic may not be paying the most money in the comp but they definitely one of the better paying sides out there

Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

[hamburgler]

Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

I think in terms of player payments, Jaffas and Maitland would be two of the highest paying clubs, well in front of Magic!

[MFKS]

Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

I think we are all in agreement then

Jaffas
Maitland
Magic/Olympic
Edgy
The rest

I backing that the pecking order

Ruben though can't complain that his club ain't offering good coin

Because they are. Blokes atagic may not be on top $$ but they well looked after they ain't poor

His whole gripe is BS anyway

The rule that you can't bring in from outside actually encouraging clubs to use the 20s

Exactly what they should be doing.

Not looking to short term plug a hole with an outside player

Promote the Yoof

[leftrightout]

Its overcast today, call all matches off!

[Stanley]

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

If I had to choose between ForeverRed or Ruben, I know who I'd believe

[ForeverRed]

If I had to choose between ForeverRed or Ruben, I know who I'd believe
Thanks Stanley

[halo se7en]

Valo v Weston 1-1 at HT. Early goal to the home side and they were largely in control. Weston slowly came back into it but got a pen out of nothing. Had a few half-chances at the end of half. My 4.50 on the draw so far looking good....

[magician]

Jets 2 jaffas 1

[winner]

Jets 2 jaffas 1
Fulltime ?

[magician]

Fulltime ?

Yes

[halo se7en]

Valo 2-1 Weston FT. Weston all over the hosts in the second. Valo snatched it with basically the last kick of the game. Totally undeserved win.

[The Magician]

Its overcast today, call all matches off!

Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

[football_macigian23]

Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

What a ridiculous call :/

[Zico]

Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

Wonder if it was called due to do the pitch condition or the fact that the Lovedale Long Lunch is on? Maybe a few wanted a wine instead of the football?

[Lofty]

Wonder if it was called due to do the pitch condition or the fact that the Lovedale Long Lunch is on? Maybe a few wanted a wine instead of the football?

Lovedale is an over 18s event. Not really the kind of thing that attracts young boys usually. Pretty sure it's a beer only diet around Weston.

[Tonester]

Lovedale is an over 18s event. Not really the kind of thing that attracts young boys usually. Pretty sure it's a beer only diet around Weston.

Under 18s and younger have parents maybe they like a tipple

[MFKS]

More inportantly

Who is on Pizza watch today at the Magic game??

[terryk]

I think we are all in agreement then

Jaffas
Maitland
Magic/Olympic
Edgy
The rest

I backing that the pecking order

Ruben though can't complain that his club ain't offering good coin

Because they are. Blokes atagic may not be on top $$ but they well looked after they ain't poor

His whole gripe is BS anyway

The rule that you can't bring in from outside actually encouraging clubs to use the 20s

Exactly what they should be doing.

Not looking to short term plug a hole with an outside player

Promote the Yoof

I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.

[Bremsstrahlung]

What's southy got to do with anything?

[ForeverRed]

Yeah, what he said, probably because Terryk was never good enough to grace jack neave, men of Football are still waiting for him to attend our meeting, there's plenty to do terryk, put your money where your mouth is, this Wednesday at the duke buddy

[Tonester]

Scores anyone?

[GO AWAY]

Azzurri 2 ( goodchild , smith ), Kyle hodges man of the Match, Magic 1 ... oh hang on ... Olympic ��

[ForeverRed]

Magic had all the play first half but went to the sheds 2.1 down, paid the price for missed chances, olympic were extremely direct,they didn't play a great deal of Football, Olympics goals both pens, second was a bit dubious,

[immersion]

I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.

Well done for magic in their improvement of facilities. But in the end its a game of points, and facilities dont get you points.

[hawk]

I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.
No. Broadmeadow and Hamo have bought the best players and won the comp in the past. They also have poached or attract (some parents prefer that route) the best juniors in the area for the last decade. Because someone other club buys the best players and become good for a change it becomes a crime? No thanks.

On the other issue about ground development those 2 clubs excel in this area use the community and attract funding very well to make their grounds very functional. An example for all.

[EH9]

Magic had all the play first half but went to the sheds 2.1 down, paid the price for missed chances, olympic were extremely direct,they didn't play a great deal of Football, Olympics goals both pens, second was a bit dubious,

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

[hawk]

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.

[immersion]

Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.

He might be feeling the pressure?

[ForeverRed]

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.
No I missed it

[winner]

Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.
Just viewed it on Bartv. Very unsavoury from Zads , also the stomp from Piddington during injury time. How does the referee miss that ?
Let's see if Northern do anything about the incident involving Zads and Smith , or whether they sweep it under the carpet because it's Magic

[Jono469]

Zads not the only coach to get a bit heated yesterday. Bloke in an Edgey coaching shirt carried on a right treat in the tunnel to the sheds after the Edgeworth and Lakes game. Throwing haymakers and screaming for everyone to fight him. Throwing in every c**t and f**k he could muster in front of the ball boys and families at the game.

[GO AWAY]

Zads not the only coach to get a bit heated yesterday. Bloke in an Edgey coaching shirt carried on a right treat in the tunnel to the sheds after the Edgeworth and Lakes game. Throwing haymakers and screaming for everyone to fight him. Throwing in every c**t and f**k he could muster in front of the ball boys and families at the game.

Hope a report goes to NNSW and this bloke is dealt with, considering a spectator was banned from Lisle Carr for two weeks by NNSW not too long ago.

This should be dealt with big time, as sounds a massive level above what our bloke done.

Lets see NNSW deal with Edgeworth this time ??

[GO AWAY]

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

Same Olympic player was involved in after game spat with Ayden Brice on the Wednesday night

[Jono469]

Hope a report goes to NNSW and this bloke is dealt with, considering a spectator was banned from Lisle Carr for two weeks by NNSW not too long ago.

This should be dealt with big time, as sounds a massive level above what our bloke done.

Lets see NNSW deal with Edgeworth this time ??

I'll admit straight up that I wasn't in the tunnel when it started but I saw and heard it as soon as it blew up. He ripped the pocket off one of the Lakes officials shirts as he tried to throw punches absolutely going off his chops. Apparently all because Lakes wouldn't let him take his 2 young daughters into the sheds.

[LongSufferingFan]

Zads not the only coach to get a bit heated yesterday. Bloke in an Edgey coaching shirt carried on a right treat in the tunnel to the sheds after the Edgeworth and Lakes game. Throwing haymakers and screaming for everyone to fight him. Throwing in every c**t and f**k he could muster in front of the ball boys and families at the game.

I was at the Lakes - Edgy game as well and I couldn't believe the lunatic in the Edgy shirt.
Everyone in the stand could hear and see him carrying on like it was 2am on a Saturday morning outside the Kent Hotel.
He wanted to fight anyone that came near him and his language was the worst I have heard at a football game.

A terrible portrayal of Edgeworth as a club if this guy is on their coaching staff.

[outsider]

I was at the Lakes - Edgy game as well and I couldn't believe the lunatic in the Edgy shirt.
Everyone in the stand could hear and see him carrying on like it was 2am on a Saturday morning outside the Kent Hotel.
He wanted to fight anyone that came near him and his language was the worst I have heard at a football game.

A terrible portrayal of Edgeworth as a club if this guy is on their coaching staff.

Why didn't the ground official do anything about him?

[LongSufferingFan]

Why didn't the ground official do anything about him?

They did. Looked like they told him to leave or maybe some Edgy officials suggested same.
The whole thing was done and dusted in just a few minutes.
Short but very intense.

[Dontknowmuch]

[QUOTE=LongSufferingFan;183136]They did. Looked like they told him to leave or maybe some Edgy officials suggested same.
The whole thing was done and dusted in just a few minutes.
Short but very intense.[/QUOTE

Lake Macquarie having been doing this for years not letting supporters into the sheds after the game especially when they lose, I remember it happening when Wallsend smashed them in a semi a couple of years ago and they brought their song outside. NNSW are well aware of Lakes ridiocolous rule which incites opposition supporters when there not allowed in.

I just watched a video of all Olympics supporters in an away shed singing the team song at NNSW's pet club. NNSW have to tell Lake Macquaries castapo to pull their heads in, once the referees and players have passed thru then they should allow supporters to stream thru and if they want guard the home and referee access doors or this will continue to happen, not that I am condoning some Edgeworth goose going on like a pork chop i hope his children didnt get to see all the going ons.

[GO AWAY]

I think Cardiff had to sing the song outside when they beat them in FFA cup. No excuse to carry on like a clown, like I say, will be interesting to see what becomes of it, we had a bloke banned for two weeks for a minor indiscretion, lets see what NNSW hand out to Edgeworth, AND Magic for that matter.

[Shere Khan]

Cardiff got told by the duty officers that only the people on the team sheet could enter the change rooms.

[pv4]

Serious question why would Lakes stop people entering the sheds? Some of my best football memories have been singing the victory song with friends, family, old boys, etc in the sheds (home or away) singing along.

Do Lakes have an Old Boys day, and if they win tell Danny Burt he can't come into the sheds to sing with them? I highly doubt it.

[ForeverRed]

I think Cardiff had to sing the song outside when they beat them in FFA cup. No excuse to carry on like a clown, like I say, will be interesting to see what becomes of it, we had a bloke banned for two weeks for a minor indiscretion, lets see what NNSW hand out to Edgeworth, AND Magic for that matter.
Abusing the referee isn't a slight indiscretion

[hawk]

Apparently all because Lakes wouldn't let him take his 2 young daughters into the sheds.

Change rooms after games isnt a place for a bloke and his 2 daughters for mine. He can fo

Maybe after the gf where all rules are thrown out is the exception.

[ForeverRed]

Change rooms after games isnt a place for a bloke and his 2 daughters for mine. He can fo

Maybe after the gf where all rules are thrown out is the exception.
Correct

[Lofty]

I'll admit straight up that I wasn't in the tunnel when it started but I saw and heard it as soon as it blew up. He ripped the pocket off one of the Lakes officials shirts as he tried to throw punches absolutely going off his chops. Apparently all because Lakes wouldn't let him take his 2 young daughters into the sheds.

The last thing I'd be doing is taking my young daughters into a males change room after a game of football. Looks like common sense prevailed here in not letting a couple of little girls in the sheds. The afters reaction is obviously a different story and not great, but no need to take girls in there.

[One Eyed]

Abusing the referee isn't a slight indiscretion

Agreed. Whatever clown thinks it's a good idea to abuse a ref after the game when nothing can be changed or done regarding a decision in the first half is hardly a minor indiscretion. Certainly the club didn't think it was a minor indiscretion. Having spoken to a few who are aware of the FACTS, the club officials who were present after the match all supported the referee in taking action against the muppet. Maybe if NNSWF followed the Rugby (NHRU) who gave 12 weeks to a person from Uni who abused a ref, we too might be rid of this blight on our game. Maybe then we'd have more than the 5 or so referees who seem to be the only ones good enough to do First grade. And if you think they're bad, who else? Keep abusing them and you'll have no one. Maybe those who think it's a minor indiscretion to abuse a ref should go ref if they think they know better. Actually put up or shut up. Or maybe those who get suspended for abusing a referee have to go referee for two weeks or never be allowed entry again. There's simply no need, no matter how dismayed you are with a decision it's just rediculous to think you're that important you need to go and abuse someone. The sooner that club gets rid of this person for good, the better off they'll be IMO.

[Ivan]

Before a ref gets to first grade they must put up with crap from players, team officials and spectators for several years. Many potentially good refs don't get to higher levels because of these people and they just give it up. Who would want to get abused every week from people that don't know the rules properly. In the last few years we have had Digby, Allen, Davies, Archer, McGilchrist and probably a few others give up. All these guys seemed to be around for ages but gave it up for whatever reasons....... did they have enough as well?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Anybody guilty of referee abuse should be made do "community service". They should attend a condensed referee coaching course and be asked to officiate at games that would normally not have a referee.

[pv4]

Herald article, and video, of Ruben Zadkovich post-game vs Olympic:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4679090/ref-calls-play-on-after-row-video/?cs=306

Ruben & Magic should be embarrassed. And I have zero idea how/why the refs & federation, let alone the police, aren't taking it further. Which funnily enough, am I right in saying the guy Ruben pushed IS a police officer?

George Calombaris got charged with assault, and has to face court, for an almost identical same thing, but to a fellow spectator, at the A-League Grand Final.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWMWzYimv0

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/05/10/george-calombaris-charged-with-assault-after-a-league-grand-final-incident/

I genuinely see little to no difference between what Ruben did, and what Calombaris did.

[One Eyed]

And I have zero idea how/why the refs & federation, let alone the police, aren't taking it further. Which funnily enough, am I right in saying the guy Ruben pushed IS a police officer?

George Calombaris got charged with assault, and has to face court, for an almost identical same thing, but to a fellow spectator, at the A-League Grand Final.

I genuinely see little to no difference between what Ruben did, and what Calombaris did.

I think the difference is that the Columbaris issue was initiated by the victim who went to the police the following day to press charges. On the actual night, and the footage shows this, the incident was witnessed by security/police nearby who spoke to George straight away but did nothing more other than moving him on. They mustn't have thought much of it similar to what the referee and NNSWF made of this event. Now the alledged victim has gone to the police to press charges and it will be on him to prove that George committed an offence.

With the Ruben incident, if Olympic aren't doing anything about it and they agree with the Referee that there wasn't much too it (as stated in the Herald article), then the only reason the police would get involved is if the victim (as you rightly pointed out, is a police officer) lodges a complaint. I'm sure he's well aware of his rights and what does/doesn't constitute an offence and if he does nothing about it then I'd say it's safe to assume this was just a bit of handbags that doesn't look good but really doesn't need anything more than what's already been done.

Do we know why Ruben reacted like that? Was something said to him to provoke it? Was anyone there who saw it or heard anything?

[winner]

I think the difference is that the Columbaris issue was initiated by the victim who went to the police the following day to press charges. On the actual night, and the footage shows this, the incident was witnessed by security/police nearby who spoke to George straight away but did nothing more other than moving him on. They mustn't have thought much of it similar to what the referee and NNSWF made of this event. Now the alledged victim has gone to the police to press charges and it will be on him to prove that George committed an offence.

With the Ruben incident, if Olympic aren't doing anything about it and they agree with the Referee that there wasn't much too it (as stated in the Herald article), then the only reason the police would get involved is if the victim (as you rightly pointed out, is a police officer) lodges a complaint. I'm sure he's well aware of his rights and what does/doesn't constitute an offence and if he does nothing about it then I'd say it's safe to assume this was just a bit of handbags that doesn't look good but really doesn't need anything more than what's already been done.

Do we know why Ruben reacted like that? Was something said to him to provoke it? Was anyone there who saw it or heard anything?

It doesn't what was said by either Ruben or Scott Smith ( the Olympic player ) .
At the end of the day a First grade coach has over reacted and lashed out ( pushed ) an opposition player. A bad look for our game , A bad look for Magic and for mine a worse look for Northern for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about it.
As usual , they want a club to be the bad guy (Olympic ) and put in a for a formal complaint before they will take any action. Everyone can see what took place and as the governing body, it is Northern's responsibility to deal with this matter

[NED DEVINE]

Hoe little you continue to know

[One Eyed]

It doesn't what was said by either Ruben or Scott Smith ( the Olympic player ) .
At the end of the day a First grade coach has over reacted and lashed out ( pushed ) an opposition player. A bad look for our game , A bad look for Magic and for mine a worse look for Northern for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about it.
As usual , they want a club to be the bad guy (Olympic ) and put in a for a formal complaint before they will take any action. Everyone can see what took place and as the governing body, it is Northern's responsibility to deal with this matter

Fair call. Don't get me wrong, certainly not making excuses or trying to explain the lack of response from the fed but the previous comments comparing it to the Columbaris issue and lack of Police input in this local issue I would imagine is the result of no complaint being lodged by the victim with Police. As I said, nothing was going to happen to George till the victim went to the police after the fact leading to the investigation and court appearance to establish the facts. George may yet be cleared of any wrong doing... though let's hope not because assault is never excusable, nor is verbal abuse but at the end of the day sticks and stones and all that.

My question about Ruben being provoked was just an inquiry from anyone present who might have heard or saw what the vision from BarTV does not show. That is to say, did anything happened as Ruben approached the match officials? Seems odd for someone to just walk up and shove a guy out of the blue. Could easily have escalated into a situation like we've heard about at Lakes, not something that should be ignored.

Perhaps the lack of response from Olympic officially may indicate either they didn't think it was serious or their player may have had some part to play in escalating to the point where Ruben shoves him? But, as I wasn't there, I can only go off the footage.

[Dontknowmuch]

The last thing I'd be doing is taking my young daughters into a males change room after a game of football. Looks like common sense prevailed here in not letting a couple of little girls in the sheds. The afters reaction is obviously a different story and not great, but no need to take girls in there.

Why, what world in what century are we living in if you cant take your children boys or girls into a shed for a short one minute song straight after the game to let them enjoy the atmosphere and what its like to play in a team environment when they get older.

[Pierre Essers]

Fair call. Don't get me wrong, certainly not making excuses or trying to explain the lack of response from the fed but the previous comments comparing it to the Columbaris issue and lack of Police input in this local issue I would imagine is the result of no complaint being lodged by the victim with Police. As I said, nothing was going to happen to George till the victim went to the police after the fact leading to the investigation and court appearance to establish the facts. George may yet be cleared of any wrong doing... though let's hope not because assault is never excusable, nor is verbal abuse but at the end of the day sticks and stones and all that.

My question about Ruben being provoked was just an inquiry from anyone present who might have heard or saw what the vision from BarTV does not show. That is to say, did anything happened as Ruben approached the match officials? Seems odd for someone to just walk up and shove a guy out of the blue. Could easily have escalated into a situation like we've heard about at Lakes, not something that should be ignored.

Perhaps the lack of response from Olympic officially may indicate either they didn't think it was serious or their player may have had some part to play in escalating to the point where Ruben shoves him? But, as I wasn't there, I can only go off the footage.

Not sure if the little push and shove deserves Herald recognition nor the attention from Fed however what about the some of the bush league tackles between 90th & 93rd minute? UFC style stomping...?

[Stanley]

Thanks Stanley

Gee ForeverRed, you cant even get the 50 / 50's right

[Stanley]

Zads not the only coach to get a bit heated yesterday. Bloke in an Edgey coaching shirt carried on a right treat in the tunnel to the sheds after the Edgeworth and Lakes game. Throwing haymakers and screaming for everyone to fight him. Throwing in every c**t and f**k he could muster in front of the ball boys and families at the game.

That brings the total number of clubs that have copped abused from Edgeworth officals to 5
Weston
Lambton Jaffas
Magic
South Cardiff
Lake Macquarie

[Wilso8948]

Why, what world in what century are we living in if you cant take your children boys or girls into a shed for a short one minute song straight after the game to let them enjoy the atmosphere and what its like to play in a team environment when they get older.
+1 Obviously the people making the comments don't have daughters.. Maybe no kids as well.

[pv4]

Why, what world in what century are we living in if you cant take your children boys or girls into a shed for a short one minute song straight after the game to let them enjoy the atmosphere and what its like to play in a team environment when they get older.

100%

[LongSufferingFan]

Why, what world in what century are we living in if you cant take your children boys or girls into a shed for a short one minute song straight after the game to let them enjoy the atmosphere and what its like to play in a team environment when they get older.

I think a few people are missing the point here - you can argue all day long whether Lakes change room policy is stupid or not.
Just because you disagree does not give you an excuse to be physical and threaten opposition team / club officials as the Edgy bloke did.

I for one am sick of seeing the increase in intimidation by players, coaches etc at our games.
If we are not careful football will be getting a reputation like the NRL has which nobody in their right mind should want.

I am all for passion, but people should not cross the line as often as seems to be occurring.

[Wilso8948]

I think a few people are missing the point here - you can argue all day long whether Lakes change room policy is stupid or not.
Just because you disagree does not give you an excuse to be physical and threaten opposition team / club officials as the Edgy bloke did.


I think you're missing the point of the last few posts. It was in response to people saying that "the sheds is no place for kids and especially young girls" comment. Has nothing to do with condoning the blokes behaviour. It has to do with players/officials who are also parents being able to make a measured decision on involving their children in the club.

[Jono469]

I think you're missing the point of the last few posts. It was in response to people saying that "the sheds is no place for kids and especially young girls" comment. Has nothing to do with condoning the blokes behaviour. It has to do with players/officials who are also parents being able to make a measured decision on involving their children in the club.

You're never going to come to a conclusion with this one I'm afraid. You're always going to have people who want their kids in the sheds post match and those that don't. I've got a young boy and a young girl and after years of being in the sheds after matches it's not the place I really want to be taking them. If the bloke next to me wants to take his in, fair enough. That's his prerogative.

I'm going to have to defend Lakes on this one though. If it's their policy, it's their policy. The kids get denied 1 week of being in the sheds? Big whoop. That's life. You don't always get your own way. I'm pretty sure Edgy are going to win again at a club that allows the kids in the sheds. It was hardly a monumental moment that they'll forever regret not being present for.

[ForeverRed]

I think you will find that nnswf have a rule/regulation where no one but players and club officials are allowed into sheds fullstop, maybe if all clubs abide by this then there will be no altercations,

[ForeverRed]

Gee ForeverRed, you cant even get the 50 / 50's right

I know you love me

[Dontknowmuch]

I think you will find that nnswf have a rule/regulation where no one but players and club officials are allowed into sheds fullstop, maybe if all clubs abide by this then there will be no altercations,

Once the game is complete and the referees and players have left the field, no they dont thats the whole argument about Lakes ridicolous rule. As I said before Magic openly let all Olympic supporters in their shed last weekend if there was a rule I'm sure Magic would enforce it on Derby day.

[Hotline]

I think you will find that nnswf have a rule/regulation where no one but players and club officials are allowed into sheds fullstop, maybe if all clubs abide by this then there will be no altercations,

Certainly not disagreeing with you as I don't know if that rule exists or not. However, if it is a rule I am very surprised that no other clubs enforce it even in the slightest.

[One Eyed]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4681404/brown-out-to-convert-runaway-shot-at-gong/?cs=306

I think someone at the Herald needs to research a little better. MVP votes are no longer cast by the Referees. They are voted on by the coaches of the opposing team. Pretty sure that was the new rule for this season. Can anyone confirm?

[Tonester]

100%

No worries if you want to subject your kids to a team song punctuated with swearing every third word or so. Common sense dictates an age limit, I suppose similar to movie classification.

[outsider]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4681404/brown-out-to-convert-runaway-shot-at-gong/?cs=306

I think someone at the Herald needs to research a little better. MVP votes are no longer cast by the Referees. They are voted on by the coaches of the opposing team. Pretty sure that was the new rule for this season. Can anyone confirm?

Correct

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

No worries if you want to subject your kids to a team song punctuated with swearing every third word or so. Common sense dictates an age limit, I suppose similar to movie classification.

Do all team songs have swearing in them?
To follow your movie classification analogy those that have swearing in them would need an age limit, those that do not involve swearing would not (not taking into account the adult themes in dressing rooms such as nudity and drug use).

[Tonester]

Do all team songs have swearing in them?
To follow your movie classification analogy those that have swearing in them would need an age limit, those that do not involve swearing would not (not taking into account the adult themes in dressing rooms such as nudity and drug use).

To keep it simple I would not have children in my dressing room until after team song and possibly showers. Team songs don't necessarily have swearing in them but the jubilation of the moment lends itself to improvisation of the lyric. Better off going into a losers shed,bit more sober I think.

[terryk]

It doesn't what was said by either Ruben or Scott Smith ( the Olympic player ) .
At the end of the day a First grade coach has over reacted and lashed out ( pushed ) an opposition player. A bad look for our game , A bad look for Magic and for mine a worse look for Northern for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about it.
As usual , they want a club to be the bad guy (Olympic ) and put in a for a formal complaint before they will take any action. Everyone can see what took place and as the governing body, it is Northern's responsibility to deal with this matter

Quite clearly the article states that Match Officials can submit a report if they deem anything to be worthy of reporting. Obviously the match officials were not concerned by this. So in the theme of the last week of this thread with regards to match officials and abuse of and respect of, it should be respected that the referee didn't have an issue with it and therefore the referees decision should be respected.

There is no love lost between hamilton and magic so don't feel for a minute that hamilton would not have lodged a complaint if they felt they had a case, they would have zero care factor being the bad guy. And further I have to agree that it is strange that an individual would react like Reuben did unprovoked and especially in front of the match officials so I'll see it for what it is and that's a storm in your tea cup. Clearly a nothing incident. Don't let your hatred of magic cloud your judgement.

[EH9]

Quite clearly the article states that Match Officials can submit a report if they deem anything to be worthy of reporting. Obviously the match officials were not concerned by this. So in the theme of the last week of this thread with regards to match officials and abuse of and respect of, it should be respected that the referee didn't have an issue with it and therefore the referees decision should be respected.

There is no love lost between hamilton and magic so don't feel for a minute that hamilton would not have lodged a complaint if they felt they had a case, they would have zero care factor being the bad guy. And further I have to agree that it is strange that an individual would react like Reuben did unprovoked and especially in front of the match officials so I'll see it for what it is and that's a storm in your tea cup. Clearly a nothing incident. Don't let your hatred of magic cloud your judgement.

Don't let your love of Magic cloud your judgement that a coach putting his hands on an opposition player is ok!

I agree on Ruben though, he hasn't shown any pervious form for over reacting.

[Nou Camp]

is anyone going to discuss the actual games
is that now 7 penalties in 3 games magic have conceded?

[winner]

[QUOTE=Nou Camp;183331]is anyone going to discuss the actual games
is that now 7 penalties in 3 games magic have conceded ?

It's 7 penalties in their last 3 games at Magic park. Perhaps the coaches rash behaviour rubbing off on his players.
And i still think the stomp by Piddington was way worse than what Zads did. Can anyone post a link to the incident

[terryk]

Don't let your love of Magic cloud your judgement that a coach putting his hands on an opposition player is ok!

I agree on Ruben though, he hasn't shown any pervious form for over reacting.

Agree! Reuben should keep his hands to himself, but it's hardly a John Kosmina moment! And as I wasn't in the middle of the ground where it took place then I still reserve my judgement as to whether it was provoked or not. I recall Zidane being howled down for head butting Materazzi (I think) during a World Cup game. As time went on it it came out that Zidane was personally abused and reacted the way he did after a slur on his parents. Not saying anything as dramatic has happened her but obviously there is more to the story than anyone here knows, but again a non incident as far as Hamilton, the Match Officials, or Northern NSW are concerned. I would much rather not see Reuben involved in these type of incidents but at least he didn't make a dick of himself swearing and carrying with profanities in front of two young girls and everybody else including other children within earshot of the players tunnel.

[MFKS]

Gee whiz

That was handbags

Ruben just walked in shoved Smith and then walked off

If he was really upset at Smith the argument would have kept going but Ruben wasn't even interested in Smith

Sure you can't be condoning the physical contact but really??

Players cop more than that during games at set pieces and in back play and when a ball is 50-50

I watched Olympic v Edgy last week in the cup
One of the Olympic players was quite lucky to get away with a stomp as well

I don't think the ref spotted it live
But the crowd did

[Football lover]

Got it on pretty good word that Hamilton Olympic have spoken to Pete Mcgunniess about coaching next yr?

[The Magician]

Got it on pretty good word that Hamilton Olympic have spoken to Pete Mcgunniess about coaching next yr?

100%

[ForeverRed]

Nothing new, they've asked him for the past 5

[MFKS]

So why he knock them back and coaching Buds??

It ain't think he getting better cash for the gig at Buds

[GO AWAY]

Valo 3-1

[Football lover]

[quote=go

[halo se7en]

Grand final replay and there's no-one here. Are Magic fans staying away this season?

[halo se7en]

Edgy up 1-0 after 5. Another long day for Rubes and co.?

[halo se7en]

Edgy 2-0 Magic at HT. Could have had another 2 or 3. It's a walk in the park at the moment.

[halo se7en]

3-0 Edgy at FT. As comfortable as it gets. Bradbery & Virgili are one trick ponies who's one trick barely works anymore- the rest of the Magic stalwarts look old and wayyyy past it. Rubes has no hope until he can make significant changes. Edgy on the other hand look a like a well oiled machine. My money's on them to make it a hat trick of titles this year.

[Football lover]

3-0 Edgy at FT. As comfortable as it gets. Bradbery & Virgili are one trick ponies who's one trick barely works anymore- the rest of the Magic stalwarts look old and wayyyy past it. Rubes has no hope until he can make significant changes. Edgy on the other hand look a like a well oiled machine. My money's on them to make it a hat trick of titles this year.



Edgy will go close to winning it all again those guys all understand the system zany wants them playing hence even if he starts blokes on the bench they still don't seem to miss a trick. Could have been more then 3 yesterday they were toying with Magic. Never got out of 2nd gear


Magic on the other hand it's amazing to see them losing every week they have blokes who are old and slow and just can't cut it anymore. Get rid of Peter Haynes for starters.

There is a certain coach leaving maybe get him over next yr cause the players don't seem to wanna play for Ruben!

[cobra23]

Edgy will go close to winning it all again those guys all understand the system zany wants them playing hence even if he starts blokes on the bench they still don't seem to miss a trick. Could have been more then 3 yesterday they were toying with Magic. Never got out of 2nd gear


Magic on the other hand it's amazing to see them losing every week they have blokes who are old and slow and just can't cut it anymore. Get rid of Peter Haynes for starters.

There is a certain coach leaving maybe get him over next yr cause the players don't seem to wanna play for Ruben!

bit harsh to signal out a bloke who for more then 10 years has blead and won countless of matches for this team..
im more worried about the guys under 25 who should be having a good hard look at themselves, Bradury , faj ,vigili etc,
these guys are at the age to demolish teams with there experience,speed,fitness etc, but kids these days dont have the mogrel in them like previous magic players have had.

[Jono469]

Anyone know where you can view the points accumulated in the player of the year race?

[winner]

Confirmed on the Herald web page. Bolch has been moved on from Hamilton next year and even though it doesn't say it , will be replaced by Pete Mcguiness. Bolch linked to Maitland along with a few other guesses by Craig Kerry

[MFKS]

bit harsh to signal out a bloke who for more then 10 years has blead and won countless of matches for this team..
im more worried about the guys under 25 who should be having a good hard look at themselves, Bradury , faj ,vigili etc,
these guys are at the age to demolish teams with there experience,speed,fitness etc, but kids these days dont have the mogrel in them like previous magic players have had.

But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

[De-Champ]

But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

This coming from the guy that pedals grow your own

[MFKS]

This coming from the guy that pedals grow your own

If they were promoting from within it wouldn't be a problem

Problem is they still buying and not buying right

[De-Champ]

If they were promoting from within it wouldn't be a problem

Problem is they still buying and not buying right

What NPL club in NNSW buys players??

[Stanley]

But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

They desperately need a midfielder who will direct play and provide better service to the front 3, how handy would Cassa be right now !

[MFKS]

What NPL club in NNSW buys players??
Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

[immersion]

Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

[Nou Camp]

being not for profit organisations arnt clubs suppose to provide all their members with an AGM and detailed accounts of where money is being spent (yes I realise some clubs out there would be cooking the books) that is the first place to start on where clubs money is coming and going

[NED DEVINE]

They desperately need a midfielder who will direct play and provide better service to the front 3, how handy would Cassa be right now !

Cassa - Seriously ? Have you seen him play this year ? Hasn't tackled anyone since 2010

[NED DEVINE]

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

More than that

[De-Champ]

Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

But do they buy players??? I don't know of any NPL clubs that buy players..Certain coaches may attract or coerce players to play for a club.

[De-Champ]

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

I would say that their wages bill are not too different form all other NPL clubs. It is you assume their wages are more because they change a number of players each year

[hawk]

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

Yep. good luck to them. I'm even starting to watch and it isnt the big names that are impressing.

There will be another team spending overs soon enough taking over top rung.

[immersion]

I would say that their wages bill are not too different form all other NPL clubs. It is you assume their wages are more because they change a number of players each year

more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

[mervan]

more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

[immersion]

the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

Nice assumption. I didn't criticise Lambton. I only asked a question. I also have no affiliation with any club. But hey, if you want to want to whinge about a discussion on a community board than what a life you must have.

[NED DEVINE]

the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

Take Chris Sneddon out and Lambton can't cut it either . FACT

[De-Champ]

more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

You are assuming a lot in that and you know what assume means. If you do a bit of a calculation, you say $150K in wages add to that say $70K/80K running expenses and you get $220/230k. (add the coaches wage and you are talking $300K+) Where would a local NPL club get that kind of money. Not from gate takings and canteen sales.

[Barry Dawson]

What NPL club in NNSW buys players??

Seriously?
There are buying clubs and development clubs.
How many NPL clubs are properly connected to a junior base outside of the NPL stream?
And how many of those actually have a sustainable platform of players from 6's that will feed their 13 NPL teams each year?
Good on those that do - but there arent too many.

[De-Champ]

Seriously?
There are buying clubs and development clubs.
How many NPL clubs are properly connected to a junior base outside of the NPL stream?
And how many of those actually have a sustainable platform of players from 6's that will feed their 13 NPL teams each year?
Good on those that do - but there arent too many.

Which clubs are the buying clubs?

[Barry Dawson]

Which clubs are the buying clubs?

Lambton were questioned above in a thread - good example as any for the discussion.
Big budget for 1st grade and doing really well.
How many are Lambton Juniors?
Where are their 20/s and below on the respect tables?
Their U13's are basically made up Newcastle Rep players from last year.
Sustainable pathway?
Follow a similar line of thought for the other clubs.
When I refer to "buying clubs" I am not saying they are buying juniors right through to 1st grade - but questioning are they developing their own? or relying on players from elsewhere coming in to fill their stocks throughout the age groups.
If a Club only has a very small number of Junior teams (12's and down) supporting NPL - where are their 13's coming from and so on.

[hawk]

Why is everyone so concerned about NPL club juniors?

Kids at all ages have been poached or taken to "better clubs" forever. You be lucky to find a 1 club junior.

1st grade clubs try to develop to certain extent and some do it better than others but they are not expected to bring through the next generation NPL players. I like seeing small clubs training up future top seniors.

[LongSufferingFan]

If a Club only has a very small number of Junior teams (12's and down) supporting NPL - where are their 13's coming from and so on.

Where is it written that NPL clubs are meant to develop players from Under 6's?
They don't have the resources, grounds or capabilities to do that.

NPL clubs should take responsibility for developing players once they enter their junior system (whether that be 13s or 18s) but not before.
The zones run their own elite programs for high achieving kids under the age of 12 - and so they should given the cut of rego money that the zones take.

Some clubs develop their youth players better than others and there are a whole range of reasons why. A lot comes down to the quality of the coaching staff and also what they focus on at training. Coaching from the curriculum is fine but coaches should not be afraid to encourage some individual flair as well.

[The Magician]

Where is it written that NPL clubs are meant to develop players from Under 6's?
They don't have the resources, grounds or capabilities to do that.

NPL clubs should take responsibility for developing players once they enter their junior system (whether that be 13s or 18s) but not before.
The zones run their own elite programs for high achieving kids under the age of 12 - and so they should given the cut of rego money that the zones take.

Some clubs develop their youth players better than others and there are a whole range of reasons why. A lot comes down to the quality of the coaching staff and also what they focus on at training. Coaching from the curriculum is fine but coaches should not be afraid to encourage some individual flair as well.

Zones will soon be irrelevant in youth development... next NPL agreement period premier clubs (NPL and ZL) will pick up SAP programs like most other NPL's have... So will be SAP-U9,10,11,12... NPL YTH- U13,14,15,16... NPL SNR- U18,20,NPL

[Jono469]

Extremely interesting who Bartv have chosen for their team of the season so far. Can't I say I agree with all of it...

[Football lover]

Extremely interesting who Bartv have chosen for their team of the season so far. Can't I say I agree with all of it...



Big news I'm hearing a prominent coach has been shown the door already. Very interesting I wonder if he has a job lined up for next yr already?

[The Magician]

Big news I'm hearing a prominent coach has been shown the door already. Very interesting I wonder if he has a job lined up for next yr already?

Guinno?

[EH9]

Guinno?

That's what I am hearing

[Football lover]

That's what I am hearing


Rosebuds website his been sacked.
Your welcome

[magician]

Rosebuds website his been sacked.
Your welcome

Sacked and has now been officially confirmed as olympics coach from next season

[hawk]

Interesting, coaches team coming last and jumps into another job straight away. Let's reward that. Yeah history does play a part there.

Bolch to Ado?

[Tonester]

Extremely interesting who Bartv have chosen for their team of the season so far. Can't I say I agree with all of it...

Who is in it?

[GO AWAY]

Interesting, coaches team coming last and jumps into another job straight away. Let's reward that. Yeah history does play a part there.

Bolch to Ado?
Maitland ��

[immersion]

Who is in it?

CT's was awful IMO. Smith's was reasonable. I am not sure why Bart didn't put one in. the segment felt a touch weird to me with him not putting in a team (unless he put one in later in the show?).

[Jono469]

Smith's - also included the positions that they put them in
Coach: Darren Sills
Referee: Stephen Laurie

Matt Trott - GK
Ridge Mapu - RB
Josh Evans -CB
Pat Wheeler - CB
Dom Bizzari - LB
Dylan Holz - RM
Jobe Wheelhouse - CM
Matt Thompson - LM
Sam Walker - RW
Kane Goodchild - ST
Jalon Brown - LW

Bench
Nate Cavalier - GK
Reece Pettit
Ben Hay
Keigo Moriyasu
Rene Ferguson

CT's
Coach: Darren Sills
Referee: Stephen Laurie

Matt Trott - GK
Matt Thompson - RB
Todd McSorley - CB
Josh Evans - CB
Luke Virgili - LB
Kieran Sanders - RM
Blake Green - CM
Jobe Wheelhouse - CM
Luke Remington - LM
Sam Walker - ST
Jalon Brown - ST

Bench
Benn Kelly - GK
Matt Paul
Jon Griffiths
Keigo Moriyasu
Kane Goodchild

The prerequisite was that you'd had to have played in at least six games this season.

[EH9]

Smith's - also included the positions that they put them in
Coach: Darren Sills
Referee: Stephen Laurie

Matt Trott - GK
Ridge Mapu - RB
Josh Evans -CB
Pat Wheeler - CB
Dom Bizzari - LB
Dylan Holz - RM
Jobe Wheelhouse - CM
Matt Thompson - LM
Sam Walker - RW
Kane Goodchild - ST
Jalon Brown - LW

Bench
Nate Cavalier - GK
Reece Pettit
Ben Hay
Keigo Moriyasu
Rene Ferguson

CT's
Coach: Darren Sills
Referee: Stephen Laurie

Matt Trott - GK
Matt Thompson - RB
Todd McSorley - CB
Josh Evans - CB
Luke Virgili - LB
Kieran Sanders - RM
Blake Green - CM
Jobe Wheelhouse - CM
Luke Remington - LM
Sam Walker - ST
Jalon Brown - ST

Bench
Benn Kelly - GK
Matt Paul
Jon Griffiths
Keigo Moriyasu
Kane Goodchild

The prerequisite was that you'd had to have played in at least six games this season.

Smudge's team wins this game comfortably.

[Jono469]

Smudge's team wins this game comfortably.

I have no doubt which team would win but Matt Trott picked as starting GK over Cavalier and Kelly?

[EH9]

I have no doubt which team would win but Matt Trott picked as starting GK over Cavalier and Kelly?

Matt Thompson at right fullback!!! When has he ever played right fullback!?!?!?

[pv4]

Matt Thompson at right fullback!!! When has he ever played right fullback!?!?!?

Apart from at National League level??

[Stanley]

That's probably the worst pitch I've seen for an npl game ever at edgeworth today, including Cahill oval, not worth the entry fee

Off to Edgy Sunday, update on playing surface anyone?

[winner]

Off to Edgy Sunday, update on playing surface anyone?

Goat track . Cow paddock . Mine field .

[The Magician]

Goat track . Cow paddock . Mine field .

Was meant to be inspected yesterday... obviously all good to go...

[mervan]

Sacked and has now been officially confirmed as olympics coach from next season

Apparently the board are stoked to see the back of him.

[cobra23]

Apparently the board are stoked to see the back of him.

Why??

[The Magician]

Why??

Not according to Licata in the Herald...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4703879/play-for-coach-upsets-buds/?cs=306

[halo se7en]

Valo 1-0 Lakes @ FT. Brown with the goal about 20mins to go. Lakes were down to 10 about 30mins from the end.

[mervan]

Not according to Licata in the Herald...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4703879/play-for-coach-upsets-buds/?cs=306

its called being politically correct

[mervan]

Why??

there coming last, go figure genius

[MFKS]

1-0 Jaffas after 55 mins

Ryan Griff onto the head of the great man who headed it into Remington for an open net tap in

#Griff

[MFKS]

1-0 Jaffas after 55 mins

Ryan Griff onto the head of the great man who headed it into Remington for an open net tap in

#Griff

2-0
Ryan Griff first to the ball in the six yard box
Showing the benefits of playing at a much higher level in his career

Bloke just moved to the ball and sensed an opportunity that blokes at this level don't

[MFKS]

FT

Jaffas 2-0 over Edgy

Swancott saved a penalty in the last 5 mins as well

[GO AWAY]

1-1 Azzurri Maitland

[magician]

Olympic 3 buds 0

[GO AWAY]

Magic 2-1

[football_macigian23]

Magic 2-1

Magic 4-1

Two late goals to Dino & Kale

[MFKS]

On another note was pretty impressed with the potato patch at Edgy today.

Looked pretty good actually

[Stanley]

On another note was pretty impressed with the potato patch at Edgy today.

Looked pretty good actually

It looked really good

[Boris Wonderville]

1-1 Azzurri Maitland

great to see a few young kids step up and play well for the Blues.
Cassa was huge in the mid- not sure how he ended up at Azzurri but bet they must be happy he arrived

Back 4 all did well

[Stanley]

great to see a few young kids step up and play well for the Blues.
Cassa was huge in the mid- not sure how he ended up at Azzurri but bet they must be happy he arrived

Back 4 all did well

So Ned, did Cassa make his first tackle since 2010?

[NED DEVINE]

No , but he played ok .
Played a bit further forward so he's defensive frailties were not as exposed

[Stanley]

Bobby Naumov appointed as Nick Webbs assistant at Adamstown and apparently taking players from Magic with him

[terryk]

Bob WHO? Had more clubs than Royal Pines. Seriously not sure how it is you reject a coaching opportunity to continue with a club to then half way through the next season galabant off to another club. Surely this can't be true?

[immersion]

Bobby Naumov appointed as Nick Webbs assistant at Adamstown and apparently taking players from Magic with him

any reports on which players? If Magic lose 1 or 2 of their good players their season could end up being worse than it already is.

[winner]

any reports on which players? If Magic lose 1 or 2 of their good players their season could end up being worse than it already is.

Heard Pettit Hoole and Higgins leaving but not heading to Adamstown.
How could there season be any worse

[immersion]

Heard Pettit Hoole and Higgins leaving but not heading to Adamstown.
How could there season be any worse

i guess they could be 8th, 9th, 10th or even last.

Where do you think these guys will go?

[cobra23]

Bob WHO? Had more clubs than Royal Pines. Seriously not sure how it is you reject a coaching opportunity to continue with a club to then half way through the next season galabant off to another club. Surely this can't be true?

Bobby quit head coaching magic due to opening up his new cafe,
if this is tue about adamstown then him bieng only an assistant will probably still give him enough flexibilty to juggle both..
personally i think the game needs him in some role at least.

[Football_Magic14]

Heard Pettit Hoole and Higgins leaving but not heading to Adamstown.
How could there season be any worse

I have heard similar.
Hoole to Charlestown I heard.

I'm not sure if this is true, but heard Petit to a Magic rival for next season.

[winner]

I have heard similar.
Hoole to Charlestown I heard.

I'm not sure if this is true, but heard Petit to a Magic rival for next season.

Pettit to Olympic ?

[Football_Magic14]

Pettit to Olympic ?

Not 100% sure! I was told 'a rival'

[cobra23]

Not 100% sure! I was told 'a rival'

Well that's any team the the comp.
everyone is magics rival

[Football_Magic14]

Well that's any team the the comp.
everyone is magics rival

I would guess they meant Olympic, Lambton or Edgeworth.

[MFKS]

I would guess they meant Olympic, Lambton or Edgeworth.
Or it could be Weston Jets Yoof or Buds judging by Magic's place on the ladder

[GO AWAY]

Feeling there will be a load of player movement in 2018 ?

[winner]

Feeling there will be a load of player movement in 2018 ?

Especially when Charlestown sign Tanch as coach

[Zico]

I've heard Tanch brings a big pot of money in sponsorship if appointed.
Is it only CCB and Adamstown yet to appoint the Head Coach for 2018?

[GO AWAY]

Isn't naumov going to Adamstown ?

[Zico]

Isn't naumov going to Adamstown ?
Be a good pick up if it happens.

[Zico]

Just heard Anthony Richards may be on the way out at Lakes also.
So now we have possibles for 2018
CCB - Tanch
Adamstown - Naumov
Lakes - ??????? Judging by the shit standard of football being played in the NEWFM, I can't see any of those coaches being ready to step up to NPL besides Andrew Packer (if he has his B) and Gumps so we might see a move such as Magic did and put on a Rookie?

[MFKS]

Just heard Anthony Richards may be on the way out at Lakes also.
So now we have possibles for 2018
CCB - Tanch
Adamstown - Naumov
Lakes - ??????? Judging by the shit standard of football being played in the NEWFM, I can't see any of those coaches being ready to step up to NPL besides Andrew Packer (if he has his B) and Gumps so we might see a move such as Magic did and put on a Rookie?

Don't forget the Jets take over the EJ program soon

Might find a few of the mango suckers on the Jets Yoof program having to leave Northern and get a real job

[Zico]

Don't forget the Jets take over the EJ program soon

Might find a few of the mango suckers on the Jets Yoof program having to leave Northern and get a real job
Yeah, fair point.
I would like to see GVE moved on and new blood come into the Jets set up but I think he has entrenched himself in that role through his manipulating and backhanded way he operates. He is also probably one of Laurie's mates which we all know will get him the role.

[judge]

Yeah, fair point.
I would like to see GVE moved on and new blood come into the Jets set up but I think he has entrenched himself in that role through his manipulating and backhanded way he operates. He is also probably one of Laurie's mates which we all know will get him the role.
Yeh well he has such a great record at youth development, he'd be the obvious choice, THE BIGGEST MANGO SUCKER OF THEM ALL. There goes youth development in NNSW until he's moved on.

[Stanley]

Especially when Charlestown sign Tanch as coach

Surely not Ned !!

[Bremsstrahlung]

Greg Asquith has the license right?
Coaching 20s last I heard.

[magician]

Greg Asquith has the license right?
Coaching 20s last I heard.
Decent coach aswel

[Jardelsimage]

Decent coach aswel

haha

[The Magician]

Pryce gone....
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4720284/charlestown-city-blues-to-bring-in-new-coach/?cs=306

[terryk]

Bobby quit head coaching magic due to opening up his new cafe,
if this is tue about adamstown then him bieng only an assistant will probably still give him enough flexibilty to juggle both..
personally i think the game needs him in some role at least.

I'm at the cafe at least once a week and I can tell you BN has it set up pretty good so he doesn't need to be there and it's been like that from day one. Also after talking to some magic people I was told the cafe was never mentioned once as a reason for leaving. Agree like to see him in the game somewhere it's just a shame that he along with many other coaches and players for that matter just don't have the passion and heart to stick with a club for more than a season or two.

[GO AWAY]

Official on CCB Facebook page, Dave Tanchevski to coach Azzurri 2018

[Stanley]

Official on CCB Facebook page, Dave Tanchevski to coach Azzurri 2018
I can't believe this appointment, what are they thinking ?

[EH9]

I can't believe this appointment, what are they thinking ?

Bringing in players and $$$ ?

[Apollo Creed]

I can't believe this appointment, what are they thinking ?

LOL
GA seemed surprised, or behind it all ?

[The Magician]

LOL
GA seemed surprised, or behind it all ?

Waiting for his holiness to ellaborate?

Mr Devine?

[hamburgler]

LOL
GA seemed surprised, or behind it all ?

How could GA be surprised when he was part of he decision making process at CCB?

[prawnhead]

Waiting for his holiness to ellaborate?

Mr Devine?

To be fair to Ned and GA - In the last 4 years Prycey hasn't achieved a great deal. Year 1 - semis; year 2 nearly relegated; year 3 average; year 4 currently 8th. A coach lives and dies by his results and unfortunately Shane's have been poor. The club has also lost top quality first grade players over the last few years to rival clubs and these player's
are doing well. Never an easy thing to do but I think CCB have made the right call.

[GO AWAY]

LOL
GA seemed surprised, or behind it all ?

Then I would have said " apparently "

[Zico]

Lakes and Adamstown are the only 2 who haven't named their 2018 Head Coach.

[De-Champ]

To be fair to Ned and GA - In the last 4 years Prycey hasn't achieved a great deal. Year 1 - semis; year 2 nearly relegated; year 3 average; year 4 currently 8th. A coach lives and dies by his results and unfortunately Shane's have been poor. The club has also lost top quality first grade players over the last few years to rival clubs and these player's
are doing well. Never an easy thing to do but I think CCB have made the right call.

To be fair to Prycey Azzurri did come up form the second tier, then he took over, so he did well in the first year, then went downhill from there. But he did lose his two main strikers to a rival club.

[Apollo Creed]

Then I would have said " apparently "

then
i should have said " definitely"

[Speedymetric]

Anybody know where Jim Fogarty's gone? Haven't seen him on the bench for Edgey for a while.

[EH9]

Anybody know where Jim Fogarty's gone? Haven't seen him on the bench for Edgey for a while.

Was told he just wasn't playing anymore.

[Boris Wonderville]

I can't believe this appointment, what are they thinking ?
Club needed some new direction I heard.
Cleaned up back office and finances this year apparently and now ready for success on the field.

He will bring players and sponsors which that club needs

Hope he gets some of the old boys back- might even watch them next year as they could be a smokey to the mighty Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Beppe]

Club needed some new direction I heard.
Cleaned up back office and finances this year apparently and now ready for success on the field.

He will bring players and sponsors which that club needs

Hope he gets some of the old boys back- might even watch them next year as they could be a smokey to the mighty Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!

is his brother chris or jobe wheelhouse accompanying him because they did most of the coaching at mayfield / jaffas

[prawnhead]

is his brother chris or jobe wheelhouse accompanying him because they did most of the coaching at mayfield / jaffas

Doesn't matter at all now. The B license means he has it all covered from here on in......

[Boris Wonderville]

Doesn't matter at all now. The B license means he has it all covered from here on in......

Time will tell- time will tell

[Apollo Creed]

Club needed some new direction I heard.
Cleaned up back office and finances this year apparently and now ready for success on the field.

He will bring players and sponsors which that club needs

Hope he gets some of the old boys back- might even watch them next year as they could be a smokey to the mighty Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boris you sound familiar :wink:
it all smells like a TRUMP campaign

[MFKS]

Jaffas won 5-0 against Weston

Interesting they had Bymora on the bench
I thought he left the Jets to try his luck in Europe??

Couldn't he get a gig on the Gypo Coast

Magic beat Valo 3-1 and they have added Mitchell Oxborrow to their squad

Interesting

[Blueboy]

Jaffas won 5-0 against Weston

Interesting they had Bymora on the bench
I thought he left the Jets to try his luck in Europe??

Couldn't he get a gig on the Gypo Coast

Magic beat Valo 3-1 and they have added Mitchell Oxborrow to their squad

Interesting

Does the PPS apply to the jaffas? 10 new players for the year.

[The Magician]

Does the PPS apply to the jaffas? 10 new players for the year.

Brymora is U20... Can play max equivalent of 40% (8 game's) without being in PPS.

[football_macigian23]

Jaffas won 5-0 against Weston

Interesting they had Bymora on the bench
I thought he left the Jets to try his luck in Europe??

Couldn't he get a gig on the Gypo Coast

Magic beat Valo 3-1 and they have added Mitchell Oxborrow to their squad

Interesting

Brymora leaves for Europe on the 30th

[judge]

Jaffas won 5-0 against Weston

Interesting they had Bymora on the bench
I thought he left the Jets to try his luck in Europe??

Couldn't he get a gig on the Gypo Coast

Magic beat Valo 3-1 and they have added Mitchell Oxborrow to their squad

Interesting
Ball playing midfielder exactly what they needed this might put a cat amongst the pigeons.

[The Magician]

Brymora leaves for Europe on the 30th

Hahahaha... If he leaves for Europe in 2 weeks why would you risk playing in local NPL and get cleaned up by some chopper on shit pitches getting no protection from the refs... Who is his manager? If I was his manager I'd be driving him to Balance to do a spin class everyday until his plane takes off... High intensity low impact non- contact.... Bangkok has him now.

[MFKS]

Hahahaha... If he leaves for Europe in 2 weeks why would you risk playing in local NPL and get cleaned up by some chopper on shit pitches getting no protection from the refs... Who is his manager? If I was his manager I'd be driving him to Balance to do a spin class everyday until his plane takes off... High intensity low impact non- contact.... Bangkok has him now.

I curious about his manager

But being the bloke has turned up at Jaffas any chance his manager is the same bloke who tied up with the Jaffas and organised a deal for the last Jets player to go to "Europe"??

[GO AWAY]

I curious about his manager

But being the bloke has turned up at Jaffas any chance his manager is the same bloke who tied up with the Jaffas and organised a deal for the last Jets player to go to "Europe"??

What a farcical move, if McGuinness was still at Atown that's where he'd be for two games ?? trust me .... pleasssssse silly stuff

[Stanley]

Ball playing midfielder exactly what they needed this might put a cat amongst the pigeons.
Best signing yet, with Valo about to have dip in form they were always gunna have and Olympics dramas could put Magic back in the mix

[Blueboy]

Best signing yet, with Valo about to have dip in form they were always gunna have and Olympics dramas could put Magic back in the mix

What dramas do Olympic have?

[ForeverRed]

Looks like magic are doing everything to save Rubens arse, must be a family thing, wouldn't not have happened in the past, why have 7 players recently walked out on the club, questions need to be asked

[The Magician]

Looks like magic are doing everything to save Rubens arse, must be a family thing, wouldn't not have happened in the past, why have 7 players recently walked out on the club, questions need to be asked

Your coffee must have been drugged... 3 players left U 20's chasing more game time... I think you should just focus helping the drainage situation at Ulinga... Another washout today.

[winner]

What dramas do Olympic have?
Sacking the coach halfway through this season and now from what i have heard players not wanting to recommit for next year this early. Or are they following the coach ? Or is Tanch chasing half the team to return to Charlestown

[immersion]

Your coffee must have been drugged... 3 players left U 20's chasing more game time... I think you should just focus helping the drainage situation at Ulinga... Another washout today.

body shot.

brb getting my pop corn.

[Stanley]

Your coffee must have been drugged... 3 players left U 20's chasing more game time... I think you should just focus helping the drainage situation at Ulinga... Another washout today.
Ouch 😡

[Stanley]

Sacking the coach halfway through this season and now from what i have heard players not wanting to recommit for next year this early. Or are they following the coach ? Or is Tanch chasing half the team to return to Charlestown
There is part of your answer Blueboy

[winner]

Can someone please explain how these clubs keep signing new players outside of the transfer window. I can't follow either the pps or the transfer window.

[Blueboy]

Sacking the coach halfway through this season and now from what i have heard players not wanting to recommit for next year this early. Or are they following the coach ? Or is Tanch chasing half the team to return to Charlestown

Which would say that the players are fully behind Bolch and want to win.

[Y Bloo?]

Looks like magic are doing everything to save Rubens arse, must be a family thing, wouldn't not have happened in the past, why have 7 players recently walked out on the club, questions need to be asked
Standard answer is "the parents"

[The Magician]

Standard answer is "the parents"

That comment belongs in the Youth forum.

[early_to_the_match]

That comment belongs in the Youth forum.
Maybe so, but oh so true.

[ForeverRed]

Your coffee must have been drugged... 3 players left U 20's chasing more game time... I think you should just focus helping the drainage situation at Ulinga... Another washout today.

The truth is all to hard to cope with for sum, when former coaches and players are bagging on the club then there's reason for concern, I only asked a question but as usual you had to make it personal, gives me reason to think there's issues at magic

[GO AWAY]

Lakes v Azzurri first grade called off before game by referee
U20 3-1 Azzurri
U18 2-1 Azzurri

[Not Maradona]

Can someone please explain how these clubs keep signing new players outside of the transfer window. I can't follow either the pps or the transfer window.

Players outside a clubs PPS can transfer to another club outside of their PPS at any time.

Players in a clubs PPS can only transfer to another NPL club in the transfer windows. But can transfer to a lower division club at any time.

[GO AWAY]

Azzurri 4-0

[winner]

Jaffas lose 2-1 to Valo today. I wonder if they will try and sign Adam Griffiths this week

[GO AWAY]

Jaffas lose 2-1 to Valo today. I wonder if they will try and sign Adam Griffiths this week

Champion team will always beat a team of champions ..... congrats valo

[MFKS]

Maitland 1-0 at HT

Olympic won both lower grades 5-0

[MFKS]

FT

2-2

Maitland up 2-0 and coasting

Olympic with 2 goals in a minute

They didn't deserve 1 based on what they had offered up to that point but got lucky

Then it was Olympic who should have won it in the last 5 mins when the Gypo in nets for Maitland saved their arses with a great save

Olympic out played for 75 mins but somehow get a draw

[Zico]

Magic are on the march

[LongSufferingFan]

Magic are on the march

I'm not convinced, certainly Mitch Ox makes a difference but still not up with the top teams in my view.
They beat Lakes 3-0 but only played against 10 men for the last hour of the match.
First goal was a goalkeeper error, 2nd a good goal by the Ox and third near the end when Lakes ran out of puff.
The only way I think Magic will progress past Rd 32 of FFA Cup will be if they draw the Jets.

[Lofty]

I'm not convinced, certainly Mitch Ox makes a difference but still not up with the top teams in my view.
They beat Lakes 3-0 but only played against 10 men for the last hour of the match.
First goal was a goalkeeper error, 2nd a good goal by the Ox and third near the end when Lakes ran out of puff.
The only way I think Magic will progress past Rd 32 of FFA Cup will be if they draw the Jets.

Not sure if you saw the game or not, but aside from your above points. Lakes were reduced to a couple of long range shots only. I don't recall Lakes creating too many problems at all. Magic created a lot of opportunities with a mixture of fantastic keeping and some how ya going finishing keeping it to just three. They got the 3 points and that's all that really matters.

[Stanley]

Magic are on the march
With ongoing probs at Darling st and Maitland so inconsistent, Magic will finish third and knock out Valo in finals

[Stanley]

With ongoing probs at Darling st and Maitland so inconsistent, Magic will finish third and knock out Valo in finals

Fourth

[winner]

With ongoing probs at Darling st and Maitland so inconsistent, Magic will finish third and knock out Valo in finals

Which ongoing problems at Darling st are you talking about