2017 National Premier League thread

[EH9]

Telstra Customer Service representative??

These poor bastards get paid much less an hour than our refs.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Cut the bullshit

Apply the pre existing rules and start dishing out yellow and reds to players for dissent like you should be doing in the first place

Every week players swear and show dissent at you because you FAIL to take action

Maybe if you did they would stop

As for the crowd??
Do you think blokes like Matthew Breeze and that cheating Gillette **** from Brisbane Roar give a **** what the fans thought of them??

No they didn't

Maybe your so called coaching should drum this into you not to be ****ing worried about what the plebs on the sideline are saying.

Stop being insecure and expecting everyone to want to come toast marshmallows and sing Kumbayah whikst holding hands going around in a circle at full-time

Because that your biggest problem. Your afraid and you want approval. Seeking it from the wrong places you are

Nice to hear some constructive comments coming from you:wanker:.
I think that'll really reinforce the referee ranks and improve the quality like I asked.

Would you like to try again? This time have a good think about it and let us all know your big grand ideas to address a problem that you enjoy whinging about so passionately.
Look forward to it....doubt it will be forthcoming though.

[BP Super Dynamos]

In other news, Edgeworth beat Weston 3-0

[GO AWAY]

Yeah and Adamstown beat a sluggish Azzurri 1-0

[MFKS]

Nice to hear some constructive comments coming from you:wanker:.
I think that'll really reinforce the referee ranks and improve the quality like I asked.

Would you like to try again? This time have a good think about it and let us all know your big grand ideas to address a problem that you enjoy whinging about so passionately.
Look forward to it....doubt it will be forthcoming though.

What

Your the one whinging about the dissent from the players

I have given you a solution

Use your cards like you are actually meant to

If you do it.

Dissent stops


The fact that there is dissent on the pitch from the players is down to the referees tolerating it by not applying the cards

Hey I can't help it you don't like my solution regardless of how simple it is and itinerary your rule book and all


Problem is it requires your refs to grow some balls and actually do it

[MFKS]

You would go well if you took it up-big words for someone with no balls to give it a go.
"I have other things in my life"sounds like a great copout
Put up or shut up works for me.
Quick to criticise but slow to prove
That will do me

No it ain't a cop out it the reality of things that I have other things in my life that are my priority on weekends


Plus I ain't using big words pal.

I ain't exactly frightened of what people think of me
Judge my posting on the foz for reference

[fan atic]

Well
After all those kind words I might hang around and Continue to scrutinize the following :
Steve Wright - he always wanted to be the King of something
Forever Red - you can take the boy out of southy , but you can never take the southy out of the boy
Sparky - Aka Richard Clement for his piss poor performance for CCB
The Pirate - for all the players he has stolen or conned - those tactics will become almost like a dinasaur

The referees association for continuing to promote Ryan Gallagher and other Nuftis

To the Lollies - good luck without sneddo - Harry Edwards Oval within 2 years

Tonester - absolute spastic

I just might consider my retirement
Haha

Well Mr Tull, You still continue to dribble absolute rubbish. You have ego as big as your head and a heart the size of a pea.
What have you done to better football in the hunter?
All you have done is totally ruin CCB as a club
Now you have been driven out, all of sudden they pick up.
What a hide you have to bag anyone out
Steve Wright had CCB on the rise with great sponsorship until you stuffed that
Forever red has done more for Cardiff South and men of football than you have done for anyone or anything
Richard Clement as i remember bailed you out of the mire when CCB was going rapidly out the back door
Bolch has had sooo much more success than you would ever be capable of, except for burying your head where the sun dont shine.
You show your total arogance by even bagging out refs, how low can you go.
Even Tonester did more for CCB than you ever have.

So go on retire, shut up, go away, and bury your head in shame because you are nothing more than a grub with belly rash from slivering along where you are not wanted.

[Stanley]

Well Mr Tull, You still continue to dribble absolute rubbish. You have ego as big as your head and a heart the size of a pea.
What have you done to better football in the hunter?
All you have done is totally ruin CCB as a club
Now you have been driven out, all of sudden they pick up.
What a hide you have to bag anyone out
Steve Wright had CCB on the rise with great sponsorship until you stuffed that
Forever red has done more for Cardiff South and men of football than you have done for anyone or anything
Richard Clement as i remember bailed you out of the mire when CCB was going rapidly out the back door
Bolch has had sooo much more success than you would ever be capable of, except for burying your head where the sun dont shine.
You show your total arogance by even bagging out refs, how low can you go.
Even Tonester did more for CCB than you ever have.

So go on retire, shut up, go away, and bury your head in shame because you are nothing more than a grub with belly rash from slivering along where you are not wanted.
These people didn't do as much for their clubs as make out, don't worry Ned there are more that agree with you than those that don't

[hawk]

Ref convo and CCB chat has ended...... no one wins

back to other NPL chat

[Walker]

your an ideas man walker:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
to hope and win trophies takes precedence it seems

Problem is everyone seems to want about 18's & 20's format, not enough time to develop players etc,
And plenty complain about older players getting " too much " money

Simple way around it, give the young ones a go and see if they are good enough, see if they can step up

This is part of what I mean about having a strong committee, they need to make the tough decisions that improve the club.

There ya go hawk, club references removed

[Walker]

It all depends what we see the NPL as. Is it a breeding ground for potential a league players. Or is it a showcase competition of our region that if the timing is right, somebody will come through and get picked up. The crux is any player that is deemed to have quality is picked up very early on. And it's hard for the other late bloomers if you will, to get picked up.

Does anyone know how NSPNPL and VNPL do their comps? I'm assuming the age is standardised as per NPL guidelines but do they have a points system?
You will

The clubs can only develop players for their own first grade, that has to be their focus and priority

And I believe this is what they do, if in the mean time a player shows greater potential than that is what Jets Youth is about

Yes I agree that current set up is definitely more orientated to young bloomers.
Interesting comment on fox commentary last Wednesday night, talking about Aidan Brice, called him a diamond in the rough, but also inferred it would be hard to be picked up by an A League club because he hasn't had exposed to the youth development programs

[MFKS]

It all depends what we see the NPL as. Is it a breeding ground for potential a league players. Or is it a showcase competition of our region that if the timing is right, somebody will come through and get picked up. The crux is any player that is deemed to have quality is picked up very early on. And it's hard for the other late bloomers if you will, to get picked up.

Does anyone know how NSPNPL and VNPL do their comps? I'm assuming the age is standardised as per NPL guidelines but do they have a points system?
You will

Victoria do

NSW PL did last season whether that still in effect I not 100% though I do recall hearing they were going to scrap it this season

I hadn't really followed up on whether they did

[MFKS]

Magic 1-0 up over Maitland after 15 mins

Virgili with the finish after a divine through ball from Oxborrow

Magic won 20s 4-1
Maitland 18s 2-1

[GO AWAY]

Are we hearing more movement at Azzurri ?

[MFKS]

2-0 Magic

Oxborrow with a sublime finish

Let the ball rolling across him from the right opened the body up and side foot stroked it into the net from 20 yards

[MFKS]

2-0 at HT to Magic

Maitland season going up shit creek today and judging by what they showed so far it ain't likely of a turn around

[MFKS]

2-1

Comerford with the goal

Game on now

[cobra23]

Yeah and Adamstown beat a sluggish Azzurri 1-0

Sluggish, cmon mate watched the game and Adamstown pumped them off the park. Could have easily been 6 nil if the long haired winger from Adamstown could shoot.
So don't make out that your beloved azzurri were there own worst enemy

[MFKS]

Injuries to Jonny Griff and Piddo both having to come off now have really brought Maitland into this

[cobra23]

Injuries to Jonny Griff and Piddo both having to come off now have really brought Maitland into this

Is it still 2-1 to magic.
Futbol24 has it only 2-0 to magic.
I can't make the game due to family commitment unfortunately

[MFKS]

3-1 Magic 20 to go

Petit with a tap in after Kale shot blocked

[MFKS]

Is it still 2-1 to magic.
Futbol24 has it only 2-0 to magic.
I can't make the game due to family commitment unfortunately

Yeah it was

Maitland coaching though had Ryan Clarke causing problems with his speed taking on the make shift back 4 of
Hoole Foteff Virgili and Paul

For some reason they thought the slowness of Ben Martin would be of use and pushed Clarke back into the mids

One of the most bizarre decisions I have seen

[MFKS]

FT
3-1 Magic

Roll on

[magician]

Olympic 2 valo 1
Olympic winner in the 89th minute
Valo out of the 4 for the 1st time this year

[MFKS]

Olympic 2 valo 1
Olympic winner in the 89th minute
Valo out of the 4 for the 1st time this year

Probably stay there too

[magician]

Probably stay there too
Agree

[Apollo Creed]

Jim Foley back at CCB!!! Ned... Start your rant... Disgraceful decision!

the merry go round has commenced
he nearly destroyed the club previously?


great news for jaffas

[GO AWAY]

Didn't he do a fantastic job at Jaffas this year haha

You talking about taking the Lambton 16s to Minor Premiership with Matt, with two games still left ??

[Texas Ranger]

Thanks

Think admin needs to jump in and stop the defaming of people on here, not just the recent post, but also some other recent namings, at the end of the day, all committees and executives are doing what they think is best for the club.

We at Azzurri are very pleased to welcome Jim and Matt to the club, please refrain from defaming comments.

Im always up for a bit of fun and sledging, but the above post goes way beyond what should be allowed on a forum.

IMO not a bad line up of coaches, Tanch, Wilso and Foley/Chock. We are looking forward to 2018

Cheers
Agreed. Banter is fun but the other stuff should be banned. Jim Foley may rub some people the wrong way, but he knows more about football than most, if not all of the clowns on this forum - me included.

[Tonester]

You talking about taking the Lambton 16s to Minor Premiership with Matt, with two games still left ??

Not particularly, maybe the 13s, 14s, 15s, 18s and might as well throw in the 20s for good measure.

[prawnhead]

Not particularly, maybe the 13s, 14s, 15s, 18s and might as well throw in the 20s for good measure.

Not sure what input they (Jim and Matt) had over the 13-15's. But the 18's and 20's were coached by them over this season and last I think.

[The Magician]

Ned is fine with the decision :)

Hahahahaha... When his Divine-ness comes on here and agrees with that then i'll believe that statement... Considering said new coach attempted a coup d'etat against CCB committee last time he was there, good luck!

[hawk]

Done

just ignore good advice :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[The Magician]

Coaching appointments 2018...

CCB- Dave Tanchevski
Lakes- Nick Webb
Jaffas- Jimi Pascoe
Edgeworth- Damien Zane
Magic- Ruben Zadkovich
Weston- Steve Piggott
Olympic- Peter McGuinness
Maitland- Mick Bolch
Valentine- Darren Sills
Adamstown- Sheriff Castle

[Tonester]

Not sure what input they (Jim and Matt) had over the 13-15's. But the 18's and 20's were coached by them over this season and last I think.

Youth are Jim's forte,he would've been all over the junior sides without a doubt.

[MFKS]

Coaching appointments 2018...

CCB- Dave Tanchevski
Lakes- Nick Webb
Jaffas- Jimi Pascoe
Edgeworth- Damien Zane
Magic- Ruben Zadkovich
Weston- Steve Piggott
Olympic- Peter McGuinness
Maitland- Mick Bolch
Valentine- Darren Sills
Adamstown- Sheriff Castle

Isn't it bizarre that it almost a merry go round

Very rare do we see fresh blood come in with new ideas

It the same same in a game of musical chairs going from club to club

[Nou Camp]

Isn't it bizarre that it almost a merry go round

Very rare do we see fresh blood come in with new ideas

It the same same in a game of musical chairs going from club to club

Fresh ideas
everyone who wants to coach gets "taught" how to coach from a manual and course thats outdated before it was printed,
juniors all have to play the same formation and predictible football
ever since all these coaching programs and licensing have come in Australianjuniors have fallen further behind (and we have more players to pick from than we did 10 or 20 years ago)
we produce athletes/robots not footballers

[Alton]

Fresh ideas
everyone who wants to coach gets "taught" how to coach from a manual and course thats outdated before it was printed,
juniors all have to play the same formation and predictible football
ever since all these coaching programs and licensing have come in Australianjuniors have fallen further behind (and we have more players to pick from than we did 10 or 20 years ago)
we produce athletes/robots not footballers

And less coaches, I bet there are a heap of coaches out there that could do it on their ear only for the "licence"

[W8 WATCHER]

Fresh ideas
everyone who wants to coach gets "taught" how to coach from a manual and course thats outdated before it was printed,
juniors all have to play the same formation and predictible football
ever since all these coaching programs and licensing have come in Australianjuniors have fallen further behind (and we have more players to pick from than we did 10 or 20 years ago)
we produce athletes/robots not footballers

BETTER STILL
complete a Australian Sports Commission-Community Coaching Principles Online course, and then call yourself a qualified coach
:wtf:

[380]

Fresh ideas
everyone who wants to coach gets "taught" how to coach from a manual and course thats outdated before it was printed,
juniors all have to play the same formation and predictible football
ever since all these coaching programs and licensing have come in Australianjuniors have fallen further behind (and we have more players to pick from than we did 10 or 20 years ago)
we produce athletes/robots not footballers

Ya right. I have watched kids in so called " select teams " have to play to this must play out from the back preached method and get smashed week after week and quite often by double figures. If they dared stray from this method of play they got hooked for a spell on the bench. The kids would come off shattered after having a cricket score put on them but the FFA's H Berger mantra was the way and the only way. As a result we do have too many players running around now who have had any natural instinct to play what they see in the moment well and truly coached out of them.

[GO AWAY]

Hearing Maitland are charging $10 to get in to see the exhibition against the jets tonight ? Serious ?

[hamburgler]

Hearing Maitland are charging $10 to get in to see the exhibition against the jets tonight ? Serious ?

That's ridiculous!
But hey, got to pay the old blokes' player payments!

[De-Champ]

That's ridiculous!
But hey, got to pay the old blokes' player payments!

Why shouldn't they? Someone has to pay for the ground hire, lights etc. If payment is an issue hod the game at the Jets ground, that way you can get in for free.

[GO AWAY]

Why shouldn't they? Someone has to pay for the ground hire, lights etc. If payment is an issue hod the game at the Jets ground, that way you can get in for free.

What I can"t work out is they were due to play Hamilton but it got canned because lights weren't 200lux for live streaming, Azzurri ( Lisle Carr ) didn't have the 200 lux required, or it was going to be on up there, has Maitland really got 200 lux lighting or are they telling jets porkies

BTW - If Azzurri got a game, would have been gold coin going to a local charity.

[De-Champ]

What I can"t work out is they were due to play Hamilton but it got canned because lights weren't 200lux for live streaming, Azzurri ( Lisle Carr ) didn't have the 200 lux required, or it was going to be on up there, has Maitland really got 200 lux lighting or are they telling jets porkies

BTW - If Azzurri got a game, would have been gold coin going to a local charity.

I can remember going to a jets trial game at Hamilton which was played after dark so lighting is not an issue. The real reason is never told.

[hamburgler]

What I can"t work out is they were due to play Hamilton but it got canned because lights weren't 200lux for live streaming, Azzurri ( Lisle Carr ) didn't have the 200 lux required, or it was going to be on up there, has Maitland really got 200 lux lighting or are they telling jets porkies

BTW - If Azzurri got a game, would have been gold coin going to a local charity.

Gold coin at Weston too

[mother theresa]

What I can"t work out is they were due to play Hamilton but it got canned because lights weren't 200lux for live streaming, Azzurri ( Lisle Carr ) didn't have the 200 lux required, or it was going to be on up there, has Maitland really got 200 lux lighting or are they telling jets porkies

BTW - If Azzurri got a game, would have been gold coin going to a local charity.

righto- funding local charity more like player payments
is it true goaway 18's,20's are paying $600 upfront for spots or is that going to local charity as well

[GO AWAY]

righto- funding local charity more like player payments
is it true goaway 18's,20's are paying $600 upfront for spots or is that going to local charity as well

Total load of hogwash, guaranteed

[The Magician]

Check Maitland's Facebook page... Says they are trying to recoup the "significant financial loss" from the early season wash outs...

[prawnhead]

righto- funding local charity more like player payments
is it true goaway 18's,20's are paying $600 upfront for spots or is that going to local charity as well

Will be interesting to hear on the grapevine what clubs require (demand) $1000 junior NPL payments for 2018 season by end of October 2017.

[hawk]

I dream to play premier football please #gofundme

[W8 WATCHER]

Will be interesting to hear on the grapevine what clubs require (demand) $1000 junior NPL payments for 2018 season by end of October 2017.

obviously
1 that cant pay there players :wink:

[prawnhead]

obviously
1 that cant pay there players :wink:

Yep

[Texas Ranger]

Edgy 5 nil over Valo
Maitland 2-1over Jaffas

[Texas Ranger]

Heard rumour of big changes on U18s points table. What has Magic been up to?

[Not Maradona]

Heard rumour of big changes on U18s points table. What has Magic been up to?

Played an ineligible player across a few rounds, weekend result from Jets amended to a 3-0 win to Jets

[Blueboy]

Have heard the Swan brothers are following Bolch too Maitland

[Texas Ranger]

I heard it was from their game in first round.

[The Magician]

Played an ineligible player across a few rounds, weekend result from Jets amended to a 3-0 win to Jets

Correct... Playing an under age player... 15 year old defender.. Minimum age for U18's is 16... Magic lost the games that the 15 year old defender played anyways...

[Bremsstrahlung]

Seems an interesting rule....
Seems a little silly.
Can a 15yo play first grade?
All these age restrictions getting lower and lower with the aim of players developing for first grade at a younger age, but playing a 15 year old in 18s is not on...if you are good enough, you're old enough.

[Texas Ranger]

Correct... Playing an under age player... 15 year old defender.. Minimum age for U18's is 16... Magic lost the games that the 15 year old defender played anyways...
Jets have also been playing 15 year olds in 18s and 20s. No mention of exemption for them in rules. Could get interesting!!

[The Magician]

On the bright side... The Kid can still play first grade

[Texas Ranger]

On the bright side... The Kid can still play first grade
Actually the rule is very specific and doesn't allow for exemptions nor 15 year olds to play in 1st grade.
6.2. Minimum age to play in 2017 Senior Grades is 16 years.

[LongSufferingFan]

Actually the rule is very specific and doesn't allow for exemptions nor 15 year olds to play in 1st grade.
6.2. Minimum age to play in 2017 Senior Grades is 16 years.

See now this is where the Jets being included in the NPL is silly.

So are Northern going to deduct points from the Jets as well?
They play 15 year olds in the 18s on a regular basis given that the EJs players in the 18s can be no older than 16.
Can they have their cake and eat it too???

[Texas Ranger]

See now this is where the Jets being included in the NPL is silly.

So are Northern going to deduct points from the Jets as well?
They play 15 year olds in the 18s on a regular basis given that the EJs players in the 18s can be no older than 16.
Can they have their cake and eat it too???
NNSWF, who run the Emerging Jets will decide if they have point's deducted. Guess we already know the answer.

[Apollo Creed]

le bluer news
pre'sident.. GOoooooone........ Away
sources say resigned from post
maybe things to come another spark may push his weight in

[The Magician]

Will DiNardo come back?
Will it be a McGrath 1-2?
Heard some unhappy campers from the newly announced coaching team since the arrival of Ned's Nemesis.

[GO AWAY]

le bluer news
pre'sident.. GOoooooone........ Away
sources say resigned from post
maybe things to come another spark may push his weight in

Wrong sauce apollo, still punch drunk from Rocky balboa, said president will BE there next year, can't wait for a very successful era at CCB

[Apollo Creed]

Jets have also been playing 15 year olds in 18s and 20s. No mention of exemption for them in rules. Could get interesting!!

rather embarrassing
NPL : team plays a young kid in 18's- deemed cheating, breaking the rules
EJets: team plays 14/15 year olds in 18's, 20's and 1st grade- deemed development, fantastic opportunity


i say remove the problems (EJ), and the rules become the same for all

[MFKS]

rather embarrassing
NPL : team plays a young kid in 18's- deemed cheating, breaking the rules
EJets: team plays 14/15 year olds in 18's, 20's and 1st grade- deemed development, fantastic opportunity


i say remove the problems (EJ), and the rules become the same for all

Considering that the FFA have put HAL Yoof teams into all the local NPL as a policy I don't even know why we having this let's get rid of the Jets discussion

It ain't happening

What though is a farce is this rule where Magic are getting punished

No issues that technically the rule is there Magic breached it punishment comes in

Issue is the rule needs removing particularly when the EJ program playing kids up age categories policy isn't being allowed at other clubs

If an NPL club can find a 15 year old good enough for first grade then he should be allowed to play

Anything else is bullshit

[The Magician]

Rule didn't punish Magic... Lost Olympic the minor Premiership hahahahahaha

[prawnhead]

Rule didn't punish Magic... Lost Olympic the minor Premiership hahahahahaha

Classy comment Magician - obviously a bit of resentment against the old foe hey. Wasn't an intentional balls up on Magic's part was it hahahaha

[The Magician]

Well it wasn't Magic that cried to the paper about it

[prawnhead]

Well it wasn't Magic that cried to the paper about it

Either way I'd be pissed off about about Magic's incompetence or intentions re the rules too. But like MFKS said, NNSW need to fix this stupid rule.

[Texas Ranger]

Well it wasn't Magic that cried to the paper about it
Sounds like Magic might have been the ones to "snitch" on themselves. Finishing 9th or 10th makes little difference to their 18s. Just wanting to spite Olympic!!!
As for breaking the rules, EJs stand to lose enough points in 18s and 20s to miss out on semis. But since they are the ones deciding the outcome it won't happen. Clear violation and Northern stick their head on the sand. Anyone wanting to take it further could close the whole competition down.

[The Magician]

Remember children... Its all about youth development!!!

[LongSufferingFan]

As for breaking the rules, EJs stand to lose enough points in 18s and 20s to miss out on semis. But since they are the ones deciding the outcome it won't happen. Clear violation and Northern stick their head on the sand. Anyone wanting to take it further could close the whole competition down.

Today's 18s results are just cruel.
Jets beat Jaffas by 1 and Hamilton beat Magic by 5! 😮
By my calcs that means a tie for the minor premiership with both points and for and against equal.

However due to the two 3-0 free kick results for the Jets they should be premiers courtesy of a 3 goal advantage in goals scored.

[JCBT]

Congrats Edgy.
Massive achievement to win 3 premierships in a row.

[Football lover]

Wrong sauce apollo, still punch drunk from Rocky balboa, said president will BE there next year, can't wait for a very successful era at CCB


Nick harnett to Olympic next yr

[tucker's daughter]

Nick harnett to Olympic next yr

I thought Tyler Warren was at Olympic for next season?

[EH9]

I thought Tyler Warren was at Olympic for next season?

Perhaps we are seeing another smoke and mirrors situation that happened at Azzurri with Archbold. The whole 'we need to have 2 first grade quality keepers' nonsense. But I am sure that the Warriors were up front and told Warren that they were going to sign another first grade keeper as competition.

[Imyourhero]

Congrats to Edgy for their accomplishment, but at the other end of the scale where to from now for the Bears? It's sad to see such a historic club tumbling downhill, two spoons in a row. Only finished with 1 more point than they did last year.

[MFKS]

Congrats to Edgy for their accomplishment, but at the other end of the scale where to from now for the Bears? It's sad to see such a historic club tumbling downhill, two spoons in a row. Only finished with 1 more point than they did last year.

They picked a u20 side more or less all season

They will be much better next year

I wouldn't be worried as they can play

They on the right track with the rebuild

[GO AWAY]

They picked a u20 side more or less all season

They will be much better next year

I wouldn't be worried as they can play

They on the right track with the rebuild

With Josh Maguire and Todd Mcsorley ?

[Tonester]

With Josh Maguire and Todd Mcsorley ?

You should be happy they've moved on didn't do much for your side.

[GO AWAY]

You should be happy they've moved on didn't do much for your side.

Rate Todd highly, will just be interesting how piggo and him get on.

[Walker]

Congrats to the Eagles, massive achievement.

I still think they can be beaten, they don't like to be hassled, but opposition is gonna have to be switched on and for 90+ mins.

Talk in the herald that Edgy are most likely to pick up Jobe, the 6 is probably their weakest position, but Jobe would fix that.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Great achievement for Edgy.
Pretty much beating Magic at their own game, let's me honest, the 3 clubs of Magic, Olympic and Edgy have dominated this league for some time.
I think Zane has to take a lot of credit for the way he has them playing. He made some interesting comments about it being more about the way they play, opposed to their reliance on one player. Which I think is a fair point. Added to that, he has a really strong squad, so he is able to rest his players in a way most other clubs cannot, and the players buy into his philosophy.

Not the biggest fan of the club personally, but I'm happy to give credit where it's due and they seem to be taking it up a notch, up to the other clubs to do the same.

[MFKS]

With Josh Maguire and Todd Mcsorley ?

I think they had two players over the age of 21 this year so an older head or two ain't going to hurt them

Watched them the other week v Olympic and for 85% of the Match they were more than holding their own

Just a little composure in box at both ends of the park and they not losing 3-0

I think you be finding they much stronger next season and even stronger the year after

[GO AWAY]

Whos in, not sure how we can do it, but for a bit of fun, lets get a pool together, betting on results of this weekends semi finals, if ANYONE picks the score ( do we go just both forst grade games ) or ( of all fixtures ) they win the pool.

Ill start the ball rolling

1ST - BROADMEADOW MAGIC 2 EDGEWORTH 1
20S - EDGEWORTH 1 HAMILTON 3
18S - ADAMSTOWN 0 - JETS 2

1ST - LAMBTON 1 HAMILTON 1
20S - MAITLAND 1 JETS 3
18S - HAMILTON 2 AZZURRI 2

Scores at the end of 90 minutes only

Lets play and add some fun to the forum instead of sledging and barbs.

[Texas Ranger]

1sts Edgy 2 Magic 0
20s Olympic 4 Edgy 0
18s Jets 1 Buds 1

1sts Jaffas 1 Olympic 0
20s Maitland 2 Jets 1
18s Olympic 3 Azzuri 1

[Devon Sangas]

Player of the year contenders?

Who's been the best in each team this season?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Mitchell Oxborrow.

[Texas Ranger]

Jalon Brown

[magician]

Saunders

[GO AWAY]

Ferguson

[Jono469]

Who's been the best in each team?
Magic - Reece Pettit
Olympic - Kane Goodchild
Jaffas - Jobe Wheelhouse (look how much they struggled without him)
Valentine - Jalon Brown
Weston - Jake Barner or Greg Anderson
Jets Youth - Joseph O'Connor (I bloody rate the bloke)
Lakes - Tom Smart and Ben Kelly (you can't seperate the 2)
Charlestown - Rene Ferguson
Adamstown - Alex Read
Edgeworth - Brody Taylor
Maitland - Matt Comerford

[Texas Ranger]

J O'Connor - That's a big call considering he never played first grade.

[Walker]

Checked the NNSWNPL site, updated to 12/8 and there is no O'Conner listed as even playing a game

Now depends on what you are rating ? If it's jets youth player of the year, has to be Pat Langlois, rewarded with some starts in Jets trial games
But if your looking at developing talent than Thurgate and Cox are the ones to watch.
O'Connor is quick yes but football ability ? Not sure

[Walker]

Player of the year, I think Pat Wheeler

He has been solid all year.

[Lofty]

Who's been the best in each team?
Magic - Reece Pettit
Olympic - Kane Goodchild
Jaffas - Jobe Wheelhouse (look how much they struggled without him)
Valentine - Jalon Brown
Weston - Jake Barner or Greg Anderson
Jets Youth - Joseph O'Connor (I bloody rate the bloke)
Lakes - Tom Smart and Ben Kelly (you can't seperate the 2)
Charlestown - Rene Ferguson
Adamstown - Alex Read
Edgeworth - Brody Taylor
Maitland - Matt Comerford

Reece Pettit, magic best player? What?

[MFKS]

Checked the NNSWNPL site, updated to 12/8 and there is no O'Conner listed as even playing a game

Now depends on what you are rating ? If it's jets youth player of the year, has to be Pat Langlois, rewarded with some starts in Jets trial games
But if your looking at developing talent than Thurgate and Cox are the ones to watch.
O'Connor is quick yes but football ability ? Not sure

Thurgate??

He just Zane's love child and has a lot of improvement to go

[magician]

Who's been the best in each team?
Magic - Reece Pettit
Olympic - Kane Goodchild
Jaffas - Jobe Wheelhouse (look how much they struggled without him)
Valentine - Jalon Brown
Weston - Jake Barner or Greg Anderson
Jets Youth - Joseph O'Connor (I bloody rate the bloke)
Lakes - Tom Smart and Ben Kelly (you can't seperate the 2)
Charlestown - Rene Ferguson
Adamstown - Alex Read
Edgeworth - Brody Taylor
Maitland - Matt Comerford

Lol
Have you watched any games at all this yr

[Walker]

Thurgate??

He just Zane's love child and has a lot of improvement to go

Sorry, I was just assuming they were all love children, one of the better family members

[magician]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4864875/jaffas-go-on-the-attack-for-finals-revival/?cs=306
Absoulute dribble once again from Pascoe

[MFKS]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4864875/jaffas-go-on-the-attack-for-finals-revival/?cs=306
Absoulute dribble once again from Pascoe

Why ??

They were the best team in the comp for 12 rounds and then fell in a hole once Jobe went down injured

I watched them play Edgy at Edgy and comfortably towelled them up

Whether they won the Premiership by as many points as he reckons is debatable but those two missing has definitely cost them winning it

[Planex]

Who's been the best in each team?
Magic - Reece Pettit
Olympic - Kane Goodchild
Jaffas - Jobe Wheelhouse (look how much they struggled without him)
Valentine - Jalon Brown
Weston - Jake Barner or Greg Anderson
Jets Youth - Joseph O'Connor (I bloody rate the bloke)
Lakes - Tom Smart and Ben Kelly (you can't seperate the 2)
Charlestown - Rene Ferguson
Adamstown - Alex Read
Edgeworth - Brody Taylor
Maitland - Matt Comerford

Seriously?

[Tonester]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4864875/jaffas-go-on-the-attack-for-finals-revival/?cs=306
Absoulute dribble once again from Pascoe

Pascoe has always been a tosser. Coached against him and if it's not going his way he's the world's biggest sook. Hope Olympic smack 'em big time.

[Texas Ranger]

18s Buds 1 Jets 0
20s Olympic 0 Edgy 0
1sts 0 - 0 after 20 mins

[Texas Ranger]

Edgy 1 nil at halftime.

[MFKS]

Edgy 1 nil at halftime.

Magic playing at the moment??


It been a bizarre game plan from Magic playing 3-4-3 with Kale and Virgili playing wide and not getting in the game

Every time Magic get the ball they so far isolated it not funny

Edgy playing tight at the back and relying on balls forward to Sanders and McBreen and playing off that

It a simple game Edgy are playing

**** knows why Magic are trying to get elaborate with an open wide formation in KO football

Keep it simple stupid etc

[MFKS]

Edgy FT 1-0

Edgy dominant

Can't recall Magic testing the Edgy keeper

Must say though the idea of a night GF looking rather stupid

500 or so brave souls to watch a night time game in August between these two clubs

Think Northern are going to look like fools when **** all turn up in 2 weeks time at Stade de Newy

3-5k on a good weathered arvo at Magic Park

Or 1k freezing their nuts off whilst Northern are swanning it up in a box

Great idea

[Speedymetric]

Player of the year, I think Pat Wheeler

He has been solid all year.

I have to agree. From what I've seen he has been the most solid and consistent.

[winner]

Can anyone confirm the rumour that Hamilton had signed Cody Carroll from the Jets for 2018 but now he has reneged on the deal and instead signed with Magic. I have heard some behind closed doors poaching from Zads ?

[MFKS]

Cracking goal in Injury time from Ben Hay to win the game for Jaffas 2-1 today

Absolute belter from outside the box

[The Magician]

Cracking goal in Injury time from Ben Hay to win the game for Jaffas 2-1 today

Absolute belter from outside the box

Absolutely!!! time to compose himself and smash it home... very nice finish...

Swannies had more shanks in their shooting than a coaching clinic at Merewether Golf course, sets up an interesting leg 2 at Darling St.

[GO AWAY]

Goalkeeper merry go round time, Ireland to Azzurri, archie to lakes..... so where's ben Kelly going ?

[EH9]

Goalkeeper merry go round time, Ireland to Azzurri, archie to lakes..... so where's ben Kelly going ?

Rumour mill has it he is off to Adamstown. Clearly chasing trophies.:rof:

[MFKS]

Goalkeeper merry go round time, Ireland to Azzurri, archie to lakes..... so where's ben Kelly going ?

Swancott going around at Jaffas next year??

Got to be getting close to retiring

Bloke has been around forever

[GO AWAY]

Bitz to magic ?

[onlooker]

Bitz to magic ?

I reckon he stays and Kelly to magic.

[Zico]

Bitz is at Magic

[jets04]

Ineligible player curse strikes again. In the 20s semi final last weekend with edgeworth fielding an ineligible player 3-0 win given to Olympic.

[winner]

They are serial offenders out there at Edgeworth at either player suspended players on 5 yellow cards or playing unqualified players.
You have to feel for the players who have trained and played all year to be handed a 3 0 loss due to someone not checking player eligibility rules for the final series

[MFKS]

They are serial offenders out there at Edgeworth at either player suspended players on 5 yellow cards or playing unqualified players.
You have to feel for the players who have trained and played all year to be handed a 3 0 loss due to someone not checking player eligibility rules for the final series

You would also think the useless ****s at Northern would have a list of who was eligible for each club in each grade that could either be sent to the club's during the week or was available on game day so if a non eligible player is named the match officials can inform club to make a change before the game is played

0-0 after first leg place in GF up for grabs
3-0 win and Olympic May as well start testing and rotating players for the GF

[Texas Ranger]

You would also think the useless ****s at Northern would have a list of who was eligible for each club in each grade that could either be sent to the club's during the week or was available on game day so if a non eligible player is named the match officials can inform club to make a change before the game is played

0-0 after first leg place in GF up for grabs
3-0 win and Olympic May as well start testing and rotating players for the GF
Northern can't get it right for their own teams. How would they get it right for other clubs.
They just say the rules don't apply to them. But wait and see all the rules change for next year so they can cover themselves. Wouldn't need to be changes if they were following rules to begin with.

[ForeverRed]

Clubs took it upon themselves to record player infringements etc etc a few years ago, that's why you should sign the team sheet every week after the game, it has all cards written down, you can't help stupid

[Walker]

Ineligible player was Moriyasu, not really good enough from the premier club, as they like to call themselves

Zane, who as we all know is big on rotation of his roster has obviously decided to play Moriyasu in 20's to keep him ready for this weeks return semi. But this comes at a cost, that being he hopes of the U20 squad. Decision made, so much for the club that goes on about player development, yeah we develop them thru to U20 than smash them on the head with a sledge hammer.
I would expect a lot of unhappy U20's looking for alternate clubs next year and who could blame them

[Stanley]

Clubs took it upon themselves to record player infringements etc etc a few years ago, that's why you should sign the team sheet every week after the game, it has all cards written down, you can't help stupid

Could be wrong, but clubs never took this on. I believe it’s in the regulations that clubs are responsible for recording and monitoring player infringements and imposing player sanctions.

[Alton]

Ineligible player was Moriyasu, not really good enough from the premier club, as they like to call themselves

Zane, who as we all know is big on rotation of his roster has obviously decided to play Moriyasu in 20's to keep him ready for this weeks return semi. But this comes at a cost, that being he hopes of the U20 squad. Decision made, so much for the club that goes on about player development, yeah we develop them thru to U20 than smash them on the head with a sledge hammer.
I would expect a lot of unhappy U20's looking for alternate clubs next year and who could blame them
That is a monumental stuff up that you would not expect at this level, not good enough.

[Alton]

Could be wrong, but clubs never took this on. I believe it’s in the regulations that clubs are responsible for recording and monitoring player infringements and imposing player sanctions.

Spot on Stan, sorry Red wrong again.

[Texas Ranger]

Ineligible player was Moriyasu, not really good enough from the premier club, as they like to call themselves

Zane, who as we all know is big on rotation of his roster has obviously decided to play Moriyasu in 20's to keep him ready for this weeks return semi. But this comes at a cost, that being he hopes of the U20 squad. Decision made, so much for the club that goes on about player development, yeah we develop them thru to U20 than smash them on the head with a sledge hammer.
I would expect a lot of unhappy U20's looking for alternate clubs next year and who could blame them
At least the right team is penalised, unlike total s#$tfight in 18s.

[ForeverRed]

Spot on Stan, sorry Red wrong again.
It has been recorded in the regulations after clubs were concerned about nnswf not keeping correct or up to date records, clubs voted to take the responsibility away from nnswf, the following year it was recorded in the regulations, sorry, but I am correct, again

[RANGER09]

Could be wrong, but clubs never took this on. I believe it’s in the regulations that clubs are responsible for recording and monitoring player infringements and imposing player sanctions.

Not sure about this league but imagine it's no different , in zone league we are responsible to check the team sheets, record the cards and check with the association if what we have recorded is correct as some cards are missed, not recorded, Team sheets not copied, cards recorded against wrong name etc

In no way is it up to the club to impose the sanction based on their own records. If you have a player close to being sanctioned it would be in your best interest to check in the week leading up to the game.
It Is up to the association to hand out the sanction, the club is to ensure the coach and player is notified upon receiving the sanction from the association

[pv4]

Responsibility of this being put/taken on by the clubs is a load of crap IMO.

What needs to happen is each club picks whichever player from their roster they want, unless specifically notified by NNSW that they're not allowed to for whatever reason.

Governing the game should fall under the responsibility of the governing body - in this case NNSW (and the Zone League Associations).

[Alton]

It has been recorded in the regulations after clubs were concerned about nnswf not keeping correct or up to date records, clubs voted to take the responsibility away from nnswf, the following year it was recorded in the regulations, sorry, but I am correct, again

You are so wrong Red, I would like to hear from others on this, Ned?

[winner]

You are so wrong Red, I would like to hear from others on this, Ned?

Red is completely correct in what he is saying. The clubs voted to take over after repeated stuff ups from nnsw.
No surprises there

[Bremsstrahlung]

You are so wrong Red, I would like to hear from others on this, Ned?

:deadhorse:

[The Magician]

Interesting words from Zane in the paper.

[Texas Ranger]

Interesting words from Zane in the paper.

I don't agree with Zane when he says all other grades irrelevant. But I also think if rules affecting 1sts 20s and 18s is different if all teams make finals, the same should apply for 1sts and 20s if only they make final. While ever a team and all other higher grades are still alive in finals series, they should be allowed to pick any side they like as long as age requirements are met. Although with games played on different days, I wouldn't like to see players playing in both 1sts and 20s or 20s and 18s on same weekend. Certainly not starting players in a higher grade backing up for a lower grade.

[pv4]

But I also think if rules affecting 1sts 20s and 18s is different if all teams make finals, the same should apply for 1sts and 20s if only they make final. While ever a team and all other higher grades are still alive in finals series, they should be allowed to pick any side they like as long as age requirements are met. Although with games played on different days, I wouldn't like to see players playing in both 1sts and 20s or 20s and 18s on same weekend. Certainly not starting players in a higher grade backing up for a lower grade.

I'm pretty much thinking along the same lines as you here.

Also, I mentioned it in one of the Zone League threads a few days ago, but this imo is more reason for NNSW to start using the Club Championship to decide premiers, promotion, relegation, etc (like Sydney NPL do). There should IMO be a more holistic approach to club football because clearly as we can see from Zane's comments, clubs aren't being encouraged to do that currently (and I personally don't begrudge Zane for saying that - he is just playing the game, being realistic and saying what most people are thinking anyway).

[Bremsstrahlung]

I'm pretty much thinking along the same lines as you here.

Also, I mentioned it in one of the Zone League threads a few days ago, but this imo is more reason for NNSW to start using the Club Championship to decide premiers, promotion, relegation, etc (like Sydney NPL do). There should IMO be a more holistic approach to club football because clearly as we can see from Zane's comments, clubs aren't being encouraged to do that currently (and I personally don't begrudge Zane for saying that - he is just playing the game, being realistic and saying what most people are thinking anyway).

I wouldn't mind Club Chanpionship being used to save a club from relegation. I'm not sure the pressure from clubs put on 18s would be a positive thing.
Let's be honest, in most cases first grade generally determines club championship. You cannot win club championship if you first grade aren't top 4. Im not sure using it as the only way a team can be promoted/relegated is good, but I definitely think it should be able to save a relegated team, or help a team get promotion, maybe in conjunction with, or lead to a playoff game or something. I'm not sure how it would work.

I remember a few years ago when Southy were relegated. Their first grade were obviously bottom. Maitland were second last. Southy beat them on championship points because their 22s were top 4, and 18s were mid table. Whereas Maitland were bottom and almost winless in both.
I'm not sure how, but the club championship could be used to give clubs a bit of a second chance if it is in their favour. Given how much weight it has with first grade, it takes some really strong/poor results in lower grades to change things substantially. Would be interesting to see a playoff game in those circumstances

I agree it is a more holistic view of how the club is performing. Unsure of how appropriate it is to be reliant on 16 year olds to save clubs or play for promotion if it's a all in approach.

[MFKS]

I wouldn't mind Club Chanpionship being used to save a club from relegation. I'm not sure the pressure from clubs put on 18s would be a positive thing.
Let's be honest, in most cases first grade generally determines club championship. You cannot win club championship if you first grade aren't top 4. Im not sure using it as the only way a team can be promoted/relegated is good, but I definitely think it should be able to save a relegated team, or help a team get promotion, maybe in conjunction with, or lead to a playoff game or something. I'm not sure how it would work.

I remember a few years ago when Southy were relegated. Their first grade were obviously bottom. Maitland were second last. Southy beat them on championship points because their 22s were top 4, and 18s were mid table. Whereas Maitland were bottom and almost winless in both.
I'm not sure how, but the club championship could be used to give clubs a bit of a second chance if it is in their favour. Given how much weight it has with first grade, it takes some really strong/poor results in lower grades to change things substantially. Would be interesting to see a playoff game in those circumstances

I agree it is a more holistic view of how the club is performing. Unsure of how appropriate it is to be reliant on 16 year olds to save clubs or play for promotion if it's a all in approach.

How is a club relying on 16s or 18s to save themselves from relegation

They are relying on all their grades to get enough points to save their arse

If it gets down to the last weekend and the firsts and 20s are no hope and the club is relying on their 18s side to pull a win out to save themselves then maybe the club really deserve relegation for being poorly run across the club??

Stop coming up with excuses

This is an alleged elite competition there shouldn't be no participation trophies

[pv4]

Well the notion that seemingly keeps getting pushed on Newcastle Clubs is to strengthen your young teams. Introducing NPL from 13s onwards, changing "reserve grade" to aged, etc. The message already seems to be get/promote better youth. A club doing well in all grades is only good news for that club.

As Zane has alluded to in that herald article, there is bugger all incentive for clubs to even remotely care about the results of the lower grades. So 18s and 23s (or whatever the age group is now) aren't being incentivized to get results, until they get to first grade. Maybe that's part of the reason some people claim the comp is getting weaker - because we're not encouraging our kids to win games.

As Brem has pointed out, more often than not the first grade ladder roughly dictates the Club Championship anyway. So it is largely setup to rely on Firsts by setup. And as it should. But like your Southy example - why were Southy punished moreso than the overall worse performers Maitland?

Focusing on Club Championship will encourage clubs to focus on their entire club even more, which can never be a bad thing for young players. Some in the recent page of this thread have stated that they reckon some Edgy reserve graders will be feeling pretty dirty about how they've been treated. Imagine if Edgy had even more incentive to look after them kids? Surely it can't hurt.

I recently read about how in the Bundesliga the third worst team plays off against the third best team from the division below to decide promotion/relegation. Logistically I'm sure playoff games are kinda painful for NNSW to organise (dare we ask them to put effort in to improve the game!) but I genuinely love the idea of that kind of playoff game. Gives a finals-esque feel to poor performing teams and can help them finish on a higher note than they would have.

[Bremsstrahlung]

How is a club relying on 16s or 18s to save themselves from relegation

They are relying on all their grades to get enough points to save their arse

If it gets down to the last weekend and the firsts and 20s are no hope and the club is relying on their 18s side to pull a win out to save themselves then maybe the club really deserve relegation for being poorly run across the club??

Stop coming up with excuses

This is an alleged elite competition there shouldn't be no participation trophies

I enjoy that you base a wholeeeeeeee rant, on one sentence. If you actually bothered to read, you'd see I wasn't opposed to the idea. But whatever.
:deadhorse:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Well the notion that seemingly keeps getting pushed on Newcastle Clubs is to strengthen your young teams. Introducing NPL from 13s onwards, changing "reserve grade" to aged, etc. The message already seems to be get/promote better youth. A club doing well in all grades is only good news for that club.

As Zane has alluded to in that herald article, there is bugger all incentive for clubs to even remotely care about the results of the lower grades. So 18s and 23s (or whatever the age group is now) aren't being incentivized to get results, until they get to first grade. Maybe that's part of the reason some people claim the comp is getting weaker - because we're not encouraging our kids to win games.

As Brem has pointed out, more often than not the first grade ladder roughly dictates the Club Championship anyway. So it is largely setup to rely on Firsts by setup. And as it should. But like your Southy example - why were Southy punished moreso than the overall worse performers Maitland?

Focusing on Club Championship will encourage clubs to focus on their entire club even more, which can never be a bad thing for young players. Some in the recent page of this thread have stated that they reckon some Edgy reserve graders will be feeling pretty dirty about how they've been treated. Imagine if Edgy had even more incentive to look after them kids? Surely it can't hurt.

I recently read about how in the Bundesliga the third worst team plays off against the third best team from the division below to decide promotion/relegation. Logistically I'm sure playoff games are kinda painful for NNSW to organise (dare we ask them to put effort in to improve the game!) but I genuinely love the idea of that kind of playoff game. Gives a finals-esque feel to poor performing teams and can help them finish on a higher note than they would have.

I like the idea of a playoff game. Not sure how you'd work it though.
Would it still be first and last automatic , then maybe playoff game with club championship winner/2nd place vs championship loser/2nd last.
If the club championship reflects the table, no playoff?

I think once NPL2 comes into fruition this could be possible. Not sure how viable it is with an 8 team comp.

[Stanley]

Interesting words from Zane in the paper.

I'm glad I don't have a son playing at Edgeworth given the opinion of the coach on all grades below 1st grade. Maybe NNSW should allow Edgeworth the privilege of only nominating a first grade team in the next licence period.

[Alton]

I'm glad I don't have a son playing at Edgeworth given the opinion of the coach on all grades below 1st grade. Maybe NNSW should allow Edgeworth the privilege of only nominating a first grade team in the next licence period.

Well at least all parents of NPL Youth players know what to expect from Edgeworth now.

[immersion]

Well at least all parents of NPL Youth players know what to expect from Edgeworth now.

Zane's comments don't paint a good picture of himself IMO.

[football_macigian23]

Foley pulls out on Charlestown as per their Facebook!! The old back-flip? :wtf:

[The Magician]

Foley pulls out on Charlestown as per their Facebook!! The old back-flip? :wtf:

CCB wouldn't match Jaffas financially.

[Apollo Creed]

start of many running for the hills

[GO AWAY]

start of many running for the hills

Meaning ??

[Texas Ranger]

Meaning ??
I'm guessing the promise of money to every mercenary out there won't be met with available funds.

[GO AWAY]

I'm guessing the promise of money to every mercenary out there won't be met with available funds.

Baaaaahahahahahahahahahhaha, so far from the truth, every " mercenary " will be payed, as would have Jim, his choice to reneg on the deal.
Sorry to dissapoint all you CCB knockers, but money is not a problem at the club on the hill, so pick something else, its wearing thin.

[Apollo Creed]

Baaaaahahahahahahahahahhaha, so far from the truth, every " mercenary " will be payed, as would have Jim, his choice to reneg on the deal.
Sorry to dissapoint all you CCB knockers, but money is not a problem at the club on the hill, so pick something else, its wearing thin.

1471

[Apollo Creed]

Meaning ??

1472

[Zico]

How is a club relying on 16s or 18s to save themselves from relegation

They are relying on all their grades to get enough points to save their arse

If it gets down to the last weekend and the firsts and 20s are no hope and the club is relying on their 18s side to pull a win out to save themselves then maybe the club really deserve relegation for being poorly run across the club??

Stop coming up with excuses

This is an alleged elite competition there shouldn't be no participation trophies
The current points system isn't working and if anything is making the stronger clubs stronger and weaker clubs weaker. Get rid of the points cap and make the weaker committees get off their arses and do whats required to fix their club so they can compete with the bigger clubs or they will perish through continually being also rans.
U/20's isn't working and should be 22's or 23's (or even the old reserve grade) with 20's instead of 18's, the gulf between the 20's and first team is the biggest it's ever been. These players are not getting the time to develop by playing with and against seasoned players like we did back in our day and this is reflected in the gulf between the grades.
Make it open slather with regards to first grade along with bringing back older age restrictions or don't have any at all then watch while our game improves and the numbers of home grown players filtering through to A League grow in this area.

[MFKS]

Am I right in reading it a 1pm Kick Off at Darling St today??

It also a 7:30. Kick off at Jack McLauglin??


Northern gone troppo

[winner]

Am I right in reading it a 1pm Kick Off at Darling St today??

It also a 7:30. Kick off at Jack McLauglin??


Northern gone troppo

Olympic 1st grade plays at Darling st at 1pm and their 20's play at Jack at 5pm. I would assume the time difference is to allow any of the 20's involved on the 1st grade bench ( the goalkeeper ) to be able to get to Edgeworth in time for their semi

[Blueboy]

Am I right in reading it a 1pm Kick Off at Darling St today??

It also a 7:30. Kick off at Jack McLauglin??


Northern gone troppo

Anything you don't whinge about ?

[MFKS]

Anything you don't whinge about ?

I think Northern shooting themselves in the foot

7:30pm KO in late August is killing crowd attendance
1pm KO is also killing crowd attendance

I for one can't make the 1pm game and be lucky to get there for the last 15 mins of it

Will be able to get out to Edgy tonight and freeze my arse with the rest of the die hards

But as for your casual observer the KO times really are bizarre and an exercise in shooting one self in the foot

[ForeverRed]

This why I prefer the more traditional semi final format

[GO AWAY]

Why isn't one semi final tomorrow ?

[MFKS]

Why isn't one semi final tomorrow ?

New FM GF is on

Northern jamming everything on today even if it on at ridiculous hours just so as not to interfere with tomorrows junket

[De-Champ]

I think Northern shooting themselves in the foot

7:30pm KO in late August is killing crowd attendance
1pm KO is also killing crowd attendance

I for one can't make the 1pm game and be lucky to get there for the last 15 mins of it

Will be able to get out to Edgy tonight and freeze my arse with the rest of the die hards

But as for your casual observer the KO times really are bizarre and an exercise in shooting one self in the foot

Killing crowd attendance? Yes because there would be 1000's attending.

[magician]

Refereeing at its finest. Cleal has to be the most incompetent ref going around

[mervan]

That Bird's a smart player

[MFKS]

1-0 Magic on the night

Petit with the goal

Lesson really on what Football is about really

Edgy dominant but couldn't score in a brothel with a fistful of fifties at the moment

Magic can barely get the ball in the front 3rd but convert the chance

[MFKS]

1-0 Magic at HT

Can't really recall Magic with a shot at goal bar the goal

But it game on and they got a great shot here at taking Edgy out

Magic get the next goal I think it game set and match

But this going to extra time as I freezing my arse off

Lol

[mervan]

Swan boys start in front of Papas?

[MFKS]

As predicted

Extra time

1-0 Magic after 90

Virgili with a chance to win it in injury time but couldn't get the ball out from under his feet

That being said for a bloke who spent how many years at a HAL club some serious questions need asking of what they taught him those years because sometimes he looks like he just started playing today for the first time

[MFKS]

1-1 now

McBreen with a tap in

Magic **** up in the box defending it laid it on a platter wrong footing the keeper too giving McBreen a tap in

[MFKS]

2-1 Magic now

Virgili with a shit shot knocked in on the line

I assuming away goals count in extra time ??

[MFKS]

2-1 Magic HT ET

So 2-2 on aggregate and I assume Magic through on away goals at this moment if things stay same

[Reds Forever]

2-1 Magic HT ET

So 2-2 on aggregate and I assume Magic through on away goals at this moment if things stay same

No away goals in ET.

[MFKS]

FT 2-1 Magic

But no they not through to the GF

So for some reason we are off to a penalty shootout??

Northern FMD

Your going to play 2 legged football

Let's play it properly

Away goals count in extra time

[MFKS]

Edgy win Shootout 3-1

[Texas Ranger]

Pretty clear in rules, and understandably so. No away goals in extra time. Probably one of the few rules that make sense given how poorly thought out some others are.

[GO AWAY]

Why play extra time if away goals don't count ?

[Swanky]

That is a bit harsh for magic but there is always next year
Rules are rules but they are out
Good Luck Edgeworth

[Blueboy]

Swan boys start in front of Papas?

Probably justified if you watched the last 6 weeks

[The Magician]

Probably justified if you watched the last 6 weeks

One last hoorah from bolchy to the Olympic committee for all the knives in the back.

[GO AWAY]

So...... after 90 minutes magic and Edgeworth are tied..... but because edgy scored, magic had to score two in extra time to win ? Seems so stupid to me

[jets04]

So...... after 90 minutes magic and Edgeworth are tied..... but because edgy scored, magic had to score two in extra time to win ? Seems so stupid to me

That's not right. Magic needed to score 2 as edgeworth scored in extra time making it 2-1. If edgy hadn't scored then 1 goal for magic would've been enough

[Texas Ranger]

So...... after 90 minutes magic and Edgeworth are tied..... but because edgy scored, magic had to score two in extra time to win ? Seems so stupid to me
That's right. If Edgy lead by 1 why shouldn't Magic need 2 to win and 1 to draw. Both teams had the same home and away period. In extra time every thing starts again. They don't change grounds at halftime to share the home and away advantage. I suppose you want penalties to be on home and away rule as well.

[MFKS]

That's right. If Edgy lead by 1 why shouldn't Magic need 2 to win and 1 to draw. Both teams had the same home and away period. In extra time every thing starts again. They don't change grounds at halftime to share the home and away advantage. I suppose you want penalties to be on home and away rule as well.

Reason you have away goals is to settle it before penalties

If your happy to eliminate a side for the season based on away goals after 90 mins then you should also be playing it in Extra time just as it done in the UCL and WCQ ties

If you going to have away goals play it this way. If not go back to one legged affairs

[Texas Ranger]

So team playing 2nd leg away always has advantage!! In this case it also is the team that is lower on the table. So after both teams have had same time frame and rules applied over 2 x 90 minute games, one team can win in extra time without scoring more goals. You should be on committe at CCB and board of Northern with that logic!

[De-Champ]

What is the argument? both teams knew the rules. It is not as though the rules were made up on the night.

[Texas Ranger]

Champions League interpretation of the away goal rule in extra time is heavily criticised but has some bearing given the 2 matches are usually played in different cities or countries where crowd support etc. can be a distinct advantage. Not the case in local comps.

[MFKS]

So team playing 2nd leg away always has advantage!! In this case it also is the team that is lower on the table. So after both teams have had same time frame and rules applied over 2 x 90 minute games, one team can win in extra time without scoring more goals. You should be on committe at CCB and board of Northern with that logic!

Team playing 2nd leg at home has home grown advantage crowd support local knowledge of conditions etc

An extra 30 mins to use these factors to help it over the line

[Blueboy]

Team playing 2nd leg at home has home grown advantage crowd support local knowledge of conditions etc

An extra 30 mins to use these factors to help it over the line
Garbage

[Bremsstrahlung]

Keep it as is.
Both teams have 90 minutes at home and 90 minutes away using away goals rule.
If neither team can win, extra time with no away goals is fair. If anything the home team in second leg finished higher and deserves the "home advantage" if it's gone that far.


May as well make the away teams penalties worth 2 goals as well, right?

[Wild Brew]

Garbage
Agreed. Same crowds go to both games and weather the same at both grounds. One side having to score 1 goal less in injury time than opponent is massive advantage, and unfair when it is the team that is lower on table that gets that advantage of an extra 30 minutes to count away goals.

[GO AWAY]

Sounds like the nnsw and magic love affair is on life support going off tomorrow's paper.

[Wild Brew]

Sounds like the nnsw and magic love affair is on life support going off tomorrow's paper.
Magic along with Eagles seem to be serial offenders when it comes to not knowing the competition rules.

[Walker]

Magic along with Eagles seem to be serial offenders when it comes to not knowing the competition rules.

Edgeworth knew the rules, they just chose to ignore them
Magic knew the rules, just forgot to keep their "celebrating" players away from NNSW officials

[ForeverRed]

This will be big, pretty bad behaviour by all reports, nnswf really need to start showing some balls here

[Beppe]

they should name and shame the players.

[GO AWAY]

A lot of people know exactly who

[pv4]

they should name and shame the players.

If we're lucky, Newysports probably have it all on film :rof:

[pv4]

These last few days have been a total mind blow for me. I thought I knew football rules pretty well but I didn't know that away goals rule applied to Extra Time in ANY competition, but apparently that is the the commonly accepted standard. I was always under the assumption that Away Goals only applied for the 90mins, and didn't apply to Extra Time. Like NNSW have set up. I really, really hate the idea of Extra Time goals having the away goals rule applied to them, to be honest. Extra Time goals are huge as-is, they don't need away goals tainting them. I agree with NNSW's rule setup and I wish it was universal. ET goals having away goals applied to them isn't fair to the team hosting the final game because they never had the opportunity for away ET goals

[Lofty]

These last few days have been a total mind blow for me. I thought I knew football rules pretty well but I didn't know that away goals rule applied to Extra Time in ANY competition, but apparently that is the the commonly accepted standard. I was always under the assumption that Away Goals only applied for the 90mins, and didn't apply to Extra Time. Like NNSW have set up. I really, really hate the idea of Extra Time goals having the away goals rule applied to them, to be honest. Extra Time goals are huge as-is, they don't need away goals tainting them. I agree with NNSW's rule setup and I wish it was universal. ET goals having away goals applied to them isn't fair to the team hosting the final game because they never had the opportunity for away ET goals

Based on that, you might as well just scrap extra time then, because the home team never had a chance for 30 minutes of extra play at their ground. Or you could apply the same rules to the biggest club football competition in the world...

[Beppe]

These last few days have been a total mind blow for me. I thought I knew football rules pretty well but I didn't know that away goals rule applied to Extra Time in ANY competition, but apparently that is the the commonly accepted standard. I was always under the assumption that Away Goals only applied for the 90mins, and didn't apply to Extra Time. Like NNSW have set up. I really, really hate the idea of Extra Time goals having the away goals rule applied to them, to be honest. Extra Time goals are huge as-is, they don't need away goals tainting them. I agree with NNSW's rule setup and I wish it was universal. ET goals having away goals applied to them isn't fair to the team hosting the final game because they never had the opportunity for away ET goals

I agree, and i could swear that back in the 90's and 2000's watching champions league that this was never a rule. it was away goals for 90 minutes each then extra time is just standard, now away goals apply in extra time, which is ridiculous.

[hawk]

Wait. The higher team is supposed to play second home game so they can get advantage of home extra time.

As for the extra time stuff the away goal rule is naff. Get the Pens on. Better still go back to major minor semis this home and away is boring to me

[EH9]

Wait. The higher team is supposed to play second home game so they can get advantage of home extra time.

As for the extra time stuff the away goal rule is naff. Get the Pens on. Better still go back to major minor semis this home and away is boring to me

Agreed, but this current set up won't change so clubs all get a piece of the finals pie ($$$).

[winner]

they should name and shame the players.

I have heard from a good sauce who was at the magic clubhouse that the head coach of Magic was one of the main offenders and was ejected by security stadf

[Beppe]

I have heard from a good sauce who was at the magic clubhouse that the head coach of Magic was one of the main offenders and was ejected by security stadf

if true, he has had a rollercoaster season. what are they so upset about anyway, its not like northern released the rules and said away goals includes extra time then changed their mind at the end of the 120 min. was always the rule for NNSW that away goals ends after 90 min. players and coaching staff should be annoyed with the committee for no one bothering to look up the rules and communicate it through the squad. which im sure peter Haynes would know this anyway.

[Alton]

Edgeworth knew the rules, they just chose to ignore them
Magic knew the rules, just forgot to keep their "celebrating" players away from NNSW officials

This is exactly why NNSW need to hire grounds outright and manage the whole day, not just manage the parts that suit them (gate takings$$$$$)

[Wild Brew]

Home games are only a financial advantage to clubs in these one city competitions. Both teams supporters turn up to each ground. Only advantage is with some of the crappy pitches a better technical side can be more easily matched by a bunch of shirt pulling, ankle kickers.

[MFKS]

Home games are only a financial advantage to clubs in these one city competitions. Both teams supporters turn up to each ground. Only advantage is with some of the crappy pitches a better technical side can be more easily matched by a bunch of shirt pulling, ankle kickers.

Two legged football for the most part is usually very boring affairs

Sure every now and then you get a belter of a two legged tie but most of the time it pretty cagey

Why we can't go back to one legged affairs where it either always sudden death or 1v2 winner to gf and loser play winner of 3 v 4 etc

Knockout football where it decided on the day is exciting

Sure give the higher ranked team home ground advantage of your like

But let's get back to what makes finals football exciting the brutal finality it offers

[immersion]

Two legged football for the most part is usually very boring affairs

Sure every now and then you get a belter of a two legged tie but most of the time it pretty cagey

Why we can't go back to one legged affairs where it either always sudden death or 1v2 winner to gf and loser play winner of 3 v 4 etc

Knockout football where it decided on the day is exciting

Sure give the higher ranked team home ground advantage of your like

But let's get back to what makes finals football exciting the brutal finality it offers

Maybe. I dont think there would be a great deal of difference. I think over the two legs its about as fair as its going to get.

Magic vs Edgeworth 2nd leg was pretty damn exciting. Extra time, penalty shootout and then some form of heated discussion after the match with the details yet to be clearly written. Pretty exciting day IMO.

some exciting second legs in the champions league
Bayern Munich 4-2 Juventus — 2015-16 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-4)
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea — 2011-12 — Semi-final second leg (agg 2-3)
Borussia Dortmund 3-2 Malaga — 2012-13 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 3-2)
Manchester United 4-3 Real Madrid — 2002-03 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-6) (doesn't seem like it was that long ago)
Monaco 3-1 Real Madrid — 2003-04 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-5)
Deportivo La Coruna 4-0 AC Milan — 2003-04 — Quarter-final 2nd leg (agg 5-4) (pirlo hinted that Deportivo could have taken drugs for the match lol)
Barcelona 6-1 Paris Saint Germain — 2016-17 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-5) (This was crazy)

Some pretty top tier matches in the second leg.

I think you get some boring matches when first plays forth, there is usually a clear difference between the two teams.

[Lofty]

Maybe. I dont think there would be a great deal of difference. I think over the two legs its about as fair as its going to get.

Magic vs Edgeworth 2nd leg was pretty damn exciting. Extra time, penalty shootout and then some form of heated discussion after the match with the details yet to be clearly written. Pretty exciting day IMO.

some exciting second legs in the champions league
Bayern Munich 4-2 Juventus — 2015-16 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-4)
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea — 2011-12 — Semi-final second leg (agg 2-3)
Borussia Dortmund 3-2 Malaga — 2012-13 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 3-2)
Manchester United 4-3 Real Madrid — 2002-03 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-6) (doesn't seem like it was that long ago)
Monaco 3-1 Real Madrid — 2003-04 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-5)
Deportivo La Coruna 4-0 AC Milan — 2003-04 — Quarter-final 2nd leg (agg 5-4) (pirlo hinted that Deportivo could have taken drugs for the match lol)
Barcelona 6-1 Paris Saint Germain — 2016-17 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-5) (This was crazy)

Some pretty top tier matches in the second leg.

I think you get some boring matches when first plays forth, there is usually a clear difference between the two teams.

You forgot one of the most exciting in recent times, Liverpool and Dortmund in 2016 Europa quarter final. That Anfield second leg was insane!

[immersion]

You forgot one of the most exciting in recent times, Liverpool and Dortmund in 2016 Europa quarter final. That Anfield second leg was insane!

Liverpool games do not count lol, they are boring. Kidding.

You're right though another awesome game.

[hawk]

Maybe. I dont think there would be a great deal of difference. I think over the two legs its about as fair as its going to get.

Magic vs Edgeworth 2nd leg was pretty damn exciting. Extra time, penalty shootout and then some form of heated discussion after the match with the details yet to be clearly written. Pretty exciting day IMO.

some exciting second legs in the champions league
Bayern Munich 4-2 Juventus — 2015-16 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-4)
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea — 2011-12 — Semi-final second leg (agg 2-3)
Borussia Dortmund 3-2 Malaga — 2012-13 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 3-2)
Manchester United 4-3 Real Madrid — 2002-03 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-6) (doesn't seem like it was that long ago)
Monaco 3-1 Real Madrid — 2003-04 — Quarter-final second leg (agg 5-5)
Deportivo La Coruna 4-0 AC Milan — 2003-04 — Quarter-final 2nd leg (agg 5-4) (pirlo hinted that Deportivo could have taken drugs for the match lol)
Barcelona 6-1 Paris Saint Germain — 2016-17 — Last-16 second leg (agg 6-5) (This was crazy)

Some pretty top tier matches in the second leg.

I think you get some boring matches when first plays forth, there is usually a clear difference between the two teams.

Proves that 1st legs are a waste. Doesnt really matter where they finish.

Tournament football is great cause every game is one off for pts or Knockout.

[immersion]

Proves that 1st legs are a waste. Doesnt really matter where they finish.

Tournament football is great cause every game is one off for pts or Knockout.

LOL surely this a tongue in cheek comment?

Comebacks are some of the best parts of all sports. The most memorable, the most exciting. Without the first leg, there is no chance for the come from behind victory.

[Stanley]

Boring posts these

[MFKS]

LOL surely this a tongue in cheek comment?

Comebacks are some of the best parts of all sports. The most memorable, the most exciting. Without the first leg, there is no chance for the come from behind victory.

Comebacks are more memorable when they occur in the same game

Liverpool and Man U in UCL Final spring to mind
Miracle of Brisvegas in the HAL
Socceroos v Japan in Kaiserslautern

They comebacks

[immersion]

Comebacks are more memorable when they occur in the same game

Liverpool and Man U in UCL Final spring to mind
Miracle of Brisvegas in the HAL
Socceroos v Japan in Kaiserslautern

They comebacks

Perhaps you're right. My opinion doesn't agree with you. I believe the current format is fair and exciting. I think it's a win win situation for the most part as it stands.

[hawk]

LOL surely this a tongue in cheek comment?

Comebacks are some of the best parts of all sports. The most memorable, the most exciting. Without the first leg, there is no chance for the come from behind victory.

your joking

1 game results have that excitement nearly every time. How can you not understand this.

Seems only the players like 2 legs cause the 1 offs are too much pressure and tears fall too often.

win both and you're the best

[immersion]

your joking

1 game results have that excitement nearly every time. How can you not understand this.

Seems only the players like 2 legs cause the 1 offs are too much pressure and tears fall too often.

win both and you're the best

Doesn't work for me that way personally. The complexities of home and away add to the excitement for me.

[MFKS]

So what's everyone's tips this weekend

Jaffas 1st grade
Olympic 20s
Jets 18s

For mine

[Wild Brew]

So what's everyone's tips this weekend

Jaffas 1st grade
Olympic 20s
Jets 18s

For mine
Form over the year would suggest
1st Edgeworth
20s Olympic
18s Olympic

[Zico]

So what's everyone's tips this weekend

Jaffas 1st grade
Olympic 20s
Jets 18s

For mine
First's - Edgy 3-2 Jaffas
20's - Olympic 4-2 Maitland
18's - Olympic 3 - 2 Jets

[Texas Ranger]

All 3 grand finals streamed live on Bartv from 2pm.

[Bremsstrahlung]

18. Olympic 2-1
20s. Olympic 4-0
Firsts: Edgy 2-1

[GO AWAY]

Jaffas
Olympic
Olympic

I think the experience of the Griffith brothers and Jobe on hunter stadium pitch will be massive.

[MFKS]

18s 4-0 Olympic

McBreen can't coach
GVE going to be a huge loss based on that

All the possession all the field position for the EJets

But weak as piss in both boxes

[MFKS]

20s Maitland 1-0

Scored a scrappy goal and dig in and defended hard

Olympic hit the woodwork 3 times twice in the last 10 mins the crossbar denied them

[hawk]

Huge defensive effort from maito on the big field

[plague]

This Ryan griffin bloke has cost Jaffas the gf.

Garbage player

[MFKS]

Just knew this ****ing game would be going to extra time

The food shit
The beer over priced and shit
It's cold

Can't say I really enjoying the arvo night out experience freezing my arse off for 6 hours so far

It got cold here at 3pm

Back to Magic Park on a Sunday arvo next year please

[MFKS]

Jaffas 1-0 110 mins gone

Lord Griffo with the winning goal in the grand final

[MFKS]

2-0 after 115mins

Griffo with a second

[MFKS]

FT

Jaffas 2-0

Edgy still hated by everyone else

**** there some morons who are supporting them

[plague]

can someone put up a poll.
options: Best Griff goal

vs Uruguay in 2005
vs Gypos GF in '08.
vs Sth Korea to win Asia Cup
vs Edgy (twice) to win NBN GF '17.
also slobs.



get at it Nerdz.

[GO AWAY]

Thought mapu got one actually, but beer goggles on haha

[plague]

Thought mapu got one actually, but beer goggles on haha

Nah both to Griff.
Clear as day.

[Stanley]

Just knew this ****ing game would be going to extra time

The food shit
The beer over priced and shit
It's cold

Can't say I really enjoying the arvo night out experience freezing my arse off for 6 hours so far

It got cold here at 3pm

Back to Magic Park on a Sunday arvo next year please

Couldn't agree more, Mcdonald Jones Stadium does nothing for local football.

[The Magician]

FT

Jaffas 2-0

Edgy still hated by everyone else

**** there some morons who are supporting them


With the recent increase in price of a packet of cigarettes you need to give credit to the Eagles supporters that did make it past Lake Rd to get to the game... Still massively outnumbered by the Jaffas faithful... Credit to snedo and his boys.

[Jetmaster]

Griff was sacrificed under the hour, but he forgave them for they knew not what they do.
He rose once again to score twice and deliver us from evil.

[plague]

Griff was sacrificed under the hour, but he forgave them for they knew not what they do.
He rose once again to score twice and deliver us from evil.

Beautiful sermon for the holy day.
Hail Griff.

[Stanley]

Just knew this ****ing game would be going to extra time

The food shit
The beer over priced and shit
It's cold

Can't say I really enjoying the arvo night out experience freezing my arse off for 6 hours so far

It got cold here at 3pm

Back to Magic Park on a Sunday arvo next year please

Bet the beer, wine and food in the corporate executive suite was fine and I'm guessing you wouldn't of needed a jumper.

[GO AWAY]

Debatable

[hawk]

Griff was sacrificed under the hour, but he forgave them for they knew not what they do.
He rose once again to score twice and deliver us from evil.

lol but true

[immersion]

FT

Jaffas 2-0

Edgy still hated by everyone else

**** there some morons who are supporting them

Surely Magic are disliked more than Edgy after the despicable actions at the pub with the Northern officials the other day?

[MFKS]

Surely Magic are disliked more than Edgy after the despicable actions at the pub with the Northern officials the other day?

Nope

Everyone hates Edgy

If you ain't going for them

You are against them

[The Magician]

Nope

Everyone hates Edgy

If you ain't going for them

You are against them

They are a special breed out edgy way... You can take the kid from the tavern, but you can't take the tavern from the kid... Better club won GF, karma is a bitch.

[Texas Ranger]

They are a special breed out edgy way... You can take the kid from the tavern, but you can't take the tavern from the kid... Better club won GF, karma is a bitch.
Ditto re Magic and result of semi

[380]

The old don't throw stones comes to mind.