Football on TV & TV rights thread V2.0

[belchardo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/02/20/optus-booming-on-the-back-of-epl-broadcast-rights/

optus apparently making some moolah off the EPL rights.

[plague]

OK - so the video technology gets brought in for Round 26 (I think we play Mariners then SFC). Fox showed KRJ testing the equipment in Perth the other night.

Thoughts? I admit I am not keen - let's minimise the mistakes by players, coaches and owners before we start harrassing the refs.

Ain't solving shit.

Ref got all 3 (non) penalty decisions correct in my opinion.

I could handle goal line technology as it doesn't seem to hold up play while the decision comes in.

Anything else is garbage.

[WolfMan]

Ain't solving shit.

Ref got all 3 (non) penalty decisions correct in my opinion.

I could handle goal line technology as it doesn't seem to hold up play while the decision comes in.

Anything else is garbage.


Absolutely agree with everything as above. Look at the farce that is the NRL. Let the referees make judgement calls. They won't get every decision right, but even video technology isn't fool proof

[Jeterpool]

Ain't solving shit.

Ref got all 3 (non) penalty decisions correct in my opinion.

I could handle goal line technology as it doesn't seem to hold up play while the decision comes in.

Anything else is garbage.

Add me to this. As much as poor decisions cause us great amounts of stress and anger it's part of the beauty of the game. I don't want the complexity introduced by captains challenges, reviews of decisions, penalty calls on slow-mo replay looking for the faintest touch. Our games doesn't lend itself to a natural break in play and to do this would slow the flow and spectacle of the game because it can move on so quickly.

[Hunter403]

Refs have been ****ing things up dince the first game of football was ever played. It's part and parcel of the game. Besides, it gives us all something to whine about. Video for goal lines only.

If we want video involved use it to punish cheating/acting arse clowns that bluff referees every week with impunity. Charge them with bringing the game into disrepute and issue retrospective yellow cards. There are some players who would very quickly be having a week off without ever getting a card mid game.

[plague]

The bit that got me, from the weekend, was that the first and third penalty shouts were the exact same thing.
Defender gets ball, then contact.
Funnily though, Andy Harper, one of the blokes clamouring for video review, says the first was a fair call, the other was wrong.

Even after viewing multiple replays he maintained that stance.

With bozos like that crying out for more technology it weakens their case considering they aren't watching the damn thing anyway.

Not one of those decisions on Saturday night would have been overturned by review.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ive seen it a few times and to me If were going off consistency and what has been awarded already this season then the 3rd one was a penalty every day of the week

[plague]

Ive seen it a few times and to me If were going off consistency and what has been awarded already this season then the 3rd one was a penalty every day of the week

whats the diff between the 1st and 3rd in your opinion?

[StannyCFCJET]

whats the diff between the 1st and 3rd in your opinion?

Ive only seen the third one hahaha Soz

[parksey]

third was a clear pen for me, from the angle i've seen.

first I'm not so sure, second definitely not.

[furns]

And after months and months and months of this being such an important negotiation for Tv rights - 7/9/10 weren't interested and it looks likely to go to ABC.

Yay FFA.

[MFKS]

They were interested just not with the FFAs offer and price

The FFA don't want to go back to SBS as there are a couple of strained relationships there

Another example really of how these clowns are shooting this game in the foot really

[plague]

Meanwhile Facebook, twitter, amazon throwing money at sports rights like they are drunken sailors on shore leave and the FFA can't find their number coz it's not in the yellow pages.


Dopes.

[belchardo]

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/aleague-moves-to-network-ten-in-new-freetoair-soccer-tv-deal-20170601-gwip3l.html

Ten to show A-league games on One. also socceroos matches. 5 finals also.

starts this coming season, 7:30pm saturday game to be shown, only an additional $2m.

[belchardo]

so i think this would be up against the big bash on the same channel. can't see them giving it much exposure.

[furns]

so i think this would be up against the big bash on the same channel. can't see them giving it much exposure.big bash would be on main channel. Aleague on ONE.

[belchardo]

yeah, understand that, just wondering how much effort they'll put into it - do i advertise a contest that could end at 0-0 with limited opportunity for ads, or do i advertise the show that guarantees fireworks and an ad every 2 minutes?

[MFKS]

Getting more exposure than on the arse end of viewing like SBS and C7

I don't see though what the fascination is with trying to convert dumb ****s to the sport

Let's just focus on our own shit and see what happens instead of catering towards ****s who quite frankly couldn't give a **** about wog ball

[The Dunster]

Does this mean the FTA Friday games are gone ?

[hawk]

How is it better than SBS? 1 game and a channel that noone will find

[The Dunster]

I think it's Murdoch trying to destroy FTA Sport that competes with Foxtel - much like when they collapsed OneHD when it started taking customers from Foxtel.

[MFKS]

How is it better than SBS? 1 game and a channel that noone will find

You say that like your average skip bogan meathead regularly watches SBS anyway

No they don't

[furns]

Does this mean the FTA Friday games are gone ?
Yes, it will be the Saturday night game instead

[The Dunster]

Well SBS didn't do themselves or viewers and favours when they had the Friday night games. From what I can recall they broadcast all the regular season Friday fixtures in SD rather than HD. I do though think that Foxtel handing over the Saturday game for a mere $2 million to Channel Ten, a company they have major shareholdings in is definitely something the ACCC should be investigating.

[hawk]

You say that like your average skip bogan meathead regularly watches SBS anyway

No they don't

lol, but all people who want to watch football will choose a different number on the remote.

So there is no improvement, apart from Sydney is on every week.

I demand 2 fta games each week

[Grimario]

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/channel-10s-future-in-doubt-as-shares-placed-in-trading-halt/news-story/b0571478f2c19cf8fd4da583cf7dea8a


Channel 10 shares placed in trading halt as the network grapples with funding crisis
CHANNEL 10’s future hangs in the balance as the embattled broadcaster struggles to repay its debts.
Ten Network Holdings’ shares have placed into a trading halt this morning, amid speculation the network may announce a voluntary administration after three key backers decided not to support a new funding deal to refinance a $200 million loan.
The Australian reported today Ten shareholders Lachlan Murdoch, Bruce Gordon and James Packer have decided against guaranteeing a new $250 million loan to replace the existing $200 million overdraft, which needs to be repaid to Commonwealth Bank in *December.
The network’s board is weighing its options while the trading halt remains in force, a process that could take several days.
“Over the weekend, Ten received correspondence from financial advisers Illyria Pty Limited and Birketu Pty Limited, two of the shareholders which guarantee the company’s current financial position,” company secretary Stuart Thomas said in an update to the ASX this morning.
“That correspondence confirms that those guarantors do not intend to extend or increase their support for the company’s credit facilities beyond the term of the current facility which expires on 23 December 2017.”
Illyria, Lachlan Murdoch’s private investment vehicle, holds 7.5 per cent of Ten shares, while Bruce Gordon’s Birketu controls 15 per cent. James Packer, is understood to be keen to sell his 7.7 per cent stake, Fairfax Media reports.
Mr Thomas requested that the shares remain in a trading halt for at least 48 hours while the company considered its position and “the range of restructuring and refinancing initiatives underway”.
TOUGH TIMES FOR TELEVISION
Ten, which boasts hit shows The Bachelor and MasterChef and Big Bash cricket, had hoped to secure new funding faded over weekend.
At its recent half-year *results, the company admitted it may not be able to carry on as a going concern after posting a $232.2 million loss.
As Australia’s third-placed free-to-air network, Ten has struggled to raise enough advertising revenue to cover its costs.
The rise of streaming services like Netflix, Stan, Amazon Prime and Foxtel now has put the television industry under pressure, while online media also competes for advertiser dollars.

[Jetmaster]

I have Netflix, Foxtel and Optus.

FTA is dead to me.

[The Dunster]

I have Netflix, Foxtel and Optus.

FTA is dead to me.

Agreed. FTA is just too bloated with ads, promos, and all other sorts of shit to even bother with - let alone the shit programming.

I'd rather watch YouTube than FTA.

[hawk]

Agreed. FTA is just too bloated with ads, promos, and all other sorts of shit to even bother with - let alone the shit programming.

I'd rather watch YouTube than FTA.

fox is also ad-nauseous

[Jetmaster]

fox is also ad-nauseous

Which is annoying because we were always told when pay tv started that subs would replace ad revenue.

[MFKS]

Which is annoying because we were always told when pay tv started that subs would replace ad revenue.

The small uptake and small population took paid to that idea

[belchardo]

ABC reporting channel ten has gone into voluntary administration.

[plague]

ABC reporting channel ten has gone into voluntary administration.

Hope The Project gets picked up somewhere else. I need some wanker telling Hawk that it's all his fault.

[Grimario]

http://www.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/network-ten-heads-into-voluntary-administration-20170614-gwqo47.html

[The Camel]

I read somewhere that the owners wanted to go into Vol Admin so they could get out of contracts they had with American Content providers which were shocking for them. Be able to remodel, sign new contracts then all would be well.

[MFKS]

I read somewhere that the owners wanted to go into Vol Admin so they could get out of contracts they had with American Content providers which were shocking for them. Be able to remodel, sign new contracts then all would be well.
If true

Disgraceful behaviour

They signed the deal

Honour the contract you unAustralian ****ers

[Nou Camp]

I read somewhere that the owners wanted to go into Vol Admin so they could get out of contracts they had with American Content providers which were shocking for them. Be able to remodel, sign new contracts then all would be well.

just renegotiate the simpsons contract
simpsons 23 hours a day, news from 5 to 6
simple really

[MonkeyKplunk]

I read somewhere that the owners wanted to go into Vol Admin so they could get out of contracts they had with American Content providers which were shocking for them. Be able to remodel, sign new contracts then all would be well.

Makes sense.
Happens in business all the time really.

Will probably just end up owned by a different "company" with the same Directors

[MonkeyKplunk]

just renegotiate the simpsons contract
simpsons 23 hours a day, news from 5 to 6
simple really

Soooo... Fox8 it is then?

[Bremsstrahlung]

If true

Disgraceful behaviour

They signed the deal

Honour the contract you unAustralian ****ers

Sounds like a good loophole to make use of.
I'm sure you'd be finding all the loopholes if, heaven forbid, you made a bad decision.

[The Dunster]

I think the bad decisions at Ten have been strategic in as far as several board members / stake holders true alliances are elsewhere.

Fox seem to spend more time thwarting competition than they do developing their product. I mean SD broadcasting and only 1080i if yer lucky as an option ? It's a joke - 4k or GTFO.

[goaliepersempre]

Champions League rights in Austria and Germany will only be on Sky (paytv) or Dazn (online stream) no more free to Air.....

[MFKS]

Sounds like a good loophole to make use of.
I'm sure you'd be finding all the loopholes if, heaven forbid, you made a bad decision.
Sounds like an area where our frauds of politicians fail us

Rob a cash register at a shop >> Go to Gaol

Steal millions from people by refusing to pay debts >> Go into liquidation/ administration and start again

Disgrace you can gamble like this and get away with not paying the price for failing

[MFKS]

Fox Sports have axed Rudan from their coverage

Want to apparently bring in more of a female element so hopefully more Mel/Tara like sorts

Also given Bozza and Slater a 25% pay cut so expect more controversial rants from them to get their pay back

Maybe that why those two tearing into Ange so vigorously

[plague]

Want to apparently bring in more of a female element so hopefully more Mel/Tara like sorts


All shit aside about chicks doing sport, Tara is genuinely excellent at her job.
She actually brings a bit of joy and personality to it.
I mean, it's sport for christs sake, it should be fun.

The likes of Rudan/Slater etc are mind numbingly dull so even if there is a salient point to make their delivery bores you to death.

Jess Yates on the Supercars is another really good fit.

Hopefully there is another Tara out there because it will make the coverage so much more fun as opposed to just 'hey here's a hottie whos a mute so let's get Robbie to tell us about winning the EPL again'.

[Grimario]

All shit aside about chicks doing sport, Tara is genuinely excellent at her job.
She actually brings a bit of joy and personality to it.
I mean, it's sport for christs sake, it should be fun.

The likes of Rudan/Slater etc are mind numbingly dull so even if there is a salient point to make their delivery bores you to death.

Jess Yates on the Supercars is another really good fit.

Hopefully there is another Tara out there because it will make the coverage so much more fun as opposed to just 'hey here's a hottie whos a mute so let's get Robbie to tell us about winning the EPL again'.

There's a few that do NRL coverage as well that are great fits. Dream would be to have Mel back. Tara and Mel covering football, eventually pushing Bozza and Robbie out of a job entirely.

[plague]

There's a few that do NRL coverage as well that are great fits. Dream would be to have Mel back. Tara and Mel covering football, eventually pushing Bozza and Robbie out of a job entirely.

Yeah I've seen there's a big female rep in league but have never watched any of those shows to form an opinion.

Oh and Sarah Jones on the AFL and cricket is awesome too.

Look, I love Mel but her awkwardness really only worked when she was with Bozza in full clown mode.

Nowadays Bozza seems cranky 24/7 and poor Mel would look way out of place trying to liven the place up.

I'd love to see more Simon Hill on the soccer shoes. Yes I know he calls the games but man he's interesting to listen to and has an awesome delivery.

But yeah ain't gonna miss Rudan.
Just hope there's not some recently retired Sydney FC reject taking his place.

[Grimario]

Yeah I've seen there's a big female rep in league but have never watched any of those shows to form an opinion.

Oh and Sarah Jones on the AFL and cricket is awesome too.

Look, I love Mel but her awkwardness really only worked when she was with Bozza in full clown mode.

Nowadays Bozza seems cranky 24/7 and poor Mel would look way out of place trying to liven the place up.

I'd love to see more Simon Hill on the soccer shoes. Yes I know he calls the games but man he's interesting to listen to and has an awesome delivery.

But yeah ain't gonna miss Rudan.
Just hope there's not some recently retired Sydney FC reject taking his place.

I would LOVE Bubs on the panel. She is fantastic. Probably too busy coaching Heidelberg though.

[Jetmaster]

Credit to Fox Football and to SBS who pioneered good looking and importantly, knowledgeable, women to front their panels.

Mariana Rudan (hey Fox - there's your new Rudes!), Steph Brantz, Mel, Tara, Lucy are the templates. Mel's "offside rule" ad was a highlight.

I don't want them to overdo it though. That NRL show with all women reminds me too much of the "Netty Show" on Fast Forward. I prefer the girls to be the facilitators of discussion.

And agree with Plague's call on Simon Hill - he, not Foz, could be the next Les Murray of Australian football if done right.

The way Slater sees it...

http://i.imgur.com/5xoCH.jpg

Then again swap Tara for Debbie Spillane in this pic and you have the football Dream Team....

http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sites/sbs.com.au.topics/files/styles/body_image/public/women-in-sport.jpg?itok=mEgMW_Gw&mtime=1471366738

[MFKS]

All shit aside about chicks doing sport, Tara is genuinely excellent at her job.
She actually brings a bit of joy and personality to it.
I mean, it's sport for christs sake, it should be fun.

The likes of Rudan/Slater etc are mind numbingly dull so even if there is a salient point to make their delivery bores you to death.

Jess Yates on the Supercars is another really good fit.

Hopefully there is another Tara out there because it will make the coverage so much more fun as opposed to just 'hey here's a hottie whos a mute so let's get Robbie to tell us about winning the EPL again'.

Your spot on with your assessment on Tara

Bozza surprisingly for a goal keeper is quite knowledgeable on the tactical side of things though his personality is so wide of the mark it not funny

One minute he the village idiot giggling like a fool the next a serious angry ****

Maybe Peadick needs to slip him some coke or something

Slater on the other hand it blows me away how he is still there
He isn't exactly eloquent and he shows far too much favouritism to Liverpool Sydney FC Gypos and Graham Arnold

How he has a gig still defies logic

[goaliepersempre]

Your spot on with your assessment on Tara

Bozza surprisingly for a goal keeper is quite knowledgeable on the tactical side of things though his personality is so wide of the mark it not funny

One minute he the village idiot giggling like a fool the next a serious angry ****

Maybe Peadick needs to slip him some coke or something

Slater on the other hand it blows me away how he is still there
He isn't exactly eloquent and he shows far too much favouritism to Liverpool Sydney FC Gypos and Graham Arnold

How he has a gig still defies logic

Goalkeepers dont get the rap that the should re knowledge.. FFS they spend most of the game analysing the game....

German TV use Oli Kahn and Jens Lehmen.. Playing days absolute crazies at times but def alot of knowledge about the game.

[GazFish35]

Goalkeepers dont get the rap that the should re knowledge.. FFS they spend most of the game analysing the game....

German TV use Oli Kahn and Jens Lehmen.. Playing days absolute crazies at times but def alot of knowledge about the game.

Agreed. - a career of watching tactics coming at you, and at the same time going away from you means most GK's are pretty solid at this stuff.

The trick for most of them is going from watching the game end to end, to being able to see it from side on.

[turbojetfireV8]

FFA counting on FTA for more exposure to general public - can Ten live up to this???
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4964779/a-league-planning-for-crowd-growth-tv-ratings-boost-through-ten-deal/?cs=2439

[turbojetfireV8]

https://tenplay.com.au/sport/a-league/fixtures

wow, just how well does this schedule illustrate how disadvantaged we are by these Syd-Melb-centric 7pm time slot draws

[furns]

Lot of complaints from viewers that the ONE coverage constantly cut to ads during stoppages
Not a good start with the viewing figures either

[Jetmaster]

Hope not as that will kill it off quickly...have many times in the past not seen goals scored during ads. A Socceroos game being a prime example.

[MFKS]

Lot of complaints from viewers that the ONE coverage constantly cut to ads during stoppages
Not a good start with the viewing figures either

Well i wasn't in for it as I was in Gosford and coming home so missed it but I take it I could have watched it on Fox instead of 10??

[Couscous]

I tried to watch via TenPlay. Didn't work at all.

[Jetmaster]

Just came across this on the Yoochoob.

The days when Fox really put the effort into the preseason - this is probably the best season intro they did.

The faces, the memories, the moments - Song nutmeg :wub:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9aHs8MVjgs

[MFKS]

Who the **** was Matt Simon rooting to get his bonce in there so many times

Blokes always been shit

[plague]

anyone signed up for kayo sports yet?
legit Fox feed, all their sports product in HD for $25 per month.
can cast to a big telly unlike foxtel Now (apparently).

interesting to know if anyone on here has taken the plunge

[MFKS]

anyone signed up for kayo sports yet?
legit Fox feed, all their sports product in HD for $25 per month.
can cast to a big telly unlike foxtel Now (apparently).

interesting to know if anyone on here has taken the plunge

Planning on going IPTV in the next week or so

Eyeing up a company for about $20 a month

HAL
EPL
UCL

The lot

[la bazzle]

anyone signed up for kayo sports yet?
legit Fox feed, all their sports product in HD for $25 per month.
can cast to a big telly unlike foxtel Now (apparently).

interesting to know if anyone on here has taken the plunge

Yeah bud. So far so good and that’s just with the Beta version. Apparently the app comes out in the next week or so. Early days but I’m a fan. The split screen option and the (similar to Optus) mini match thing also good. I’d probs wait for the app though. Casting and all that works no dramas

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

So basically its the foxtel sports package for $25 a month?
And you can chromecast it?
If so, I'm in and can forget about the myfootball app.

[sammydog]

So basically its the foxtel sports package for $25 a month?
And you can chromecast it?
If so, I'm in and can forget about the myfootball app.

Id never heard of Kayo till today.

Glad I dumped Foxtel now, may just be signing up for Kayo this week.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Yeah bud. So far so good and that’s just with the Beta version. Apparently the app comes out in the next week or so. Early days but I’m a fan. The split screen option and the (similar to Optus) mini match thing also good. I’d probs wait for the app though. Casting and all that works no dramas

do you use chromecast mate?
I read on the Kayo website it needed Chromecast ultra and I'm a tightass and don't have that (just got the standard chromecast)

[la bazzle]

do you use chromecast mate?
I read on the Kayo website it needed Chromecast ultra and I'm a tightass and don't have that (just got the standard chromecast)

Yeah I’ve got both and it was only working on ultra. I don’t know enough about this stuff to know why that’s the case. App got released today and is nice

[la bazzle]

The email says:


And for your big screen TV, Kayo is available on Apple TV or you can stream it via Chromecast Ultra or Chromecast 3 rd Generation devices.

[Hunter403]

Recently bought an Nvidea Shield. Only set top box that Stan, Netflix, Amazon Prime and it's Android, so Kayo should be fine.

Foxtel just about to go from my monthly bill

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

The email says:


And for your big screen TV, Kayo is available on Apple TV or you can stream it via Chromecast Ultra or Chromecast 3 rd Generation devices.

Cheers mate.

[goaliepersempre]

Germany come to senses 2020 i think no more monday night games in the Bundesliga... power to the fans not the tv companies...

[MFKS]

Germany come to senses 2020 i think no more monday night games in the Bundesliga... power to the fans not the tv companies...

Hopefully some dumb **** in Oz will alllow clubs to set their fixtures and not the dimwits at Foxtel

If the Jets want to play on Friday or Saturday nights every week

Then we should be able to

[goaliepersempre]

We got rid of the monday night tv game in switzerland in the second division. Moved to friday night which is ok.

Clubs in 2nd division can then say apart from friday night game what time kickoff on saturday and sunday...

1st division has only 2 playing slots... Saturday night and Sunday afternoon. fix.

yet they show all of the 1st division games on paytv. (channel conference and a channel per game) sunday 1 game is ¨free to air¨

[Jetmaster]

Anybody else just witness the most bizarre match edit in history?

Waiting for Matchday Saturday and a little surprise - Jets v City final highlights - nice I thought.

Showed highlights of the first half, mainly all the City bits. Then went straight to the 84th minute - no Jets goals, not even McGree's.

The City miss right at the death, fulltime, end.

What was the point?

[MFKS]

Currently just doing a test on watching HAL via other means

YouTube has coverage of HAL games live for people in countries around the world with no coverage on normal or satellite tv

So just signed in with a VPN via Taiwan and I am watching the coverage via YouTube with shitty Kiwi commentators and all

VPN is much cheaper than both

a Foxtel
b MyFootball App

[Jetmaster]

Watched our first Sydney game last season oveseas on Youtube....very passable and the VPN is a good idea.

[Couscous]

VPN is much cheaper than both

a Foxtel
b MyFootball App

Thanks for supporting Australian football. The $1.70 a week you saved from MyFootball app make it worthwhile, I guess

[belchardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-10/too-much-sport-ratings-attendance-cricket-football-basketball/10792710

a somewhat interesting article on tv ratings/crowd figures across a number of sports.

[Jetmaster]

So much of that is right and it is the governance of each sport that is at fault.

Constant rule changes, inconsistent scheduling, television coverage across several mediums, over zealous security, decline of organic support, priority of "family friendly entertainment", franchises and nicknames reducing identity.

When they find a good thing it gets flogged to death. Long time fans are getting sick of being treated like mugs to cater for the plastic fans who change support like the weather.

I think it will be hard to turn around.

[MFKS]

So much of that is right and it is the governance of each sport that is at fault.

Constant rule changes, inconsistent scheduling, television coverage across several mediums, over zealous security, decline of organic support, priority of "family friendly entertainment", franchises and nicknames reducing identity.

When they find a good thing it gets flogged to death. Long time fans are getting sick of being treated like mugs to cater for the plastic fans who change support like the weather.

I think it will be hard to turn around.

I think the HAL is gonna fold and we gonna drain the pond again like the NSL

[mic22]

So much of that is right and it is the governance of each sport that is at fault.

Constant rule changes, inconsistent scheduling, television coverage across several mediums, over zealous security, decline of organic support, priority of "family friendly entertainment", franchises and nicknames reducing identity.

When they find a good thing it gets flogged to death. Long time fans are getting sick of being treated like mugs to cater for the plastic fans who change support like the weather.

I think it will be hard to turn around.

It's all true... but I believe the main problem is the quality of football.
I think most Australian football fans follow the EPL, and they probably refuse to fork out for tickets, memberships etc to watch something 2 levels below.
NRL and AFL are "local" sports, so there is no comparison with other leagues.

[Tommyjet]

It's all true... but I believe the main problem is the quality of football.
I think most Australian football fans follow the EPL, and they probably refuse to fork out for tickets, memberships etc to watch something 2 levels below.
NRL and AFL are "local" sports, so there is no comparison with other leagues.

I point out to every coach that comes along and , after going ahead, instructs his team to dive and roll around theatrically and time waste that all he doing is shooting himself in the foot as he won't have a job soon the way the ratings are heading.

Sure the administration of the game is shite but the standard of the game is rather gash if you compare to 5-10 years ago.

[Jetmaster]

As noted my earlier post was about all sports - not just football, which has always been a few levels lower than EPL.

BBL is a great example, you are seeing quality players but many traditional cricket fans have switched off already and now they have ramped it up to saturation level the plastics are looking at alternatives.

The A-League was going OK until they smacked down active support and tried to make it "BBL like", moved away from a straight forward draw and stuffed up VAR implementation.

[goaliepersempre]

It's all true... but I believe the main problem is the quality of football.
I think most Australian football fans follow the EPL, and they probably refuse to fork out for tickets, memberships etc to watch something 2 levels below.
NRL and AFL are "local" sports, so there is no comparison with other leagues.

Thats very generous saying only 2 levels below EPL....

[plague]

Mark Bosnich on the foxtels tonight calling for a lengthy suspension for Gypo Simon after his ref abuse.
Was pretty scathing considering the gypo is one of the players who gets a pass from his mates on the desk (gypo McBreen still refers to him as 'Simmo' on the telecast).
Reminds me of the 'Muscy being Muscy' bullshit we had to endure all those years ago when that dickhead was blowing peoples knees out.

That gypo sympathiser Miller then went on to crap on about the 'frustration' Gypo Simon and his teammates would be feeling..........but Bozza was having none of it.

bout time someone called out that gypo scumbag.

[MFKS]

Mark Bosnich on the foxtels tonight calling for a lengthy suspension for Gypo Simon after his ref abuse.
Was pretty scathing considering the gypo is one of the players who gets a pass from his mates on the desk (gypo McBreen still refers to him as 'Simmo' on the telecast).
Reminds me of the 'Muscy being Muscy' bullshit we had to endure all those years ago when that dickhead was blowing peoples knees out.

That gypo sympathiser Miller then went on to crap on about the 'frustration' Gypo Simon and his teammates would be feeling..........but Bozza was having none of it.

bout time someone called out that gypo scumbag.

Missed it

What though were his thoughts on Brosques impending suspension??

[Jetmaster]

Bozza and McBreen didn't get suspended for saying the F bomb by Fox either....

[belchardo]

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/soccer/network-ten-set-to-bid-for-a-league-tv-rights-20190329-p518ye.html

Ten looking for more FTA games.

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/foxtel-signals-price-hike-cuts-to-non-marquee-sports-after-417m-loss-20190513-p51msx.html

i'd say this would be worrying for FFA and the a-league.

[MFKS]

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/foxtel-signals-price-hike-cuts-to-non-marquee-sports-after-417m-loss-20190513-p51msx.html

i'd say this would be worrying for FFA and the a-league.

Piss poor platform deserves to be dying

Can't wait for them to go bankrupt

The damage they have done to Oz society they deserve failure

[belchardo]

Piss poor platform deserves to be dying

Can't wait for them to go bankrupt

The damage they have done to Oz society they deserve failure

yeah, **** em, what have they ever done for football?

[Jetmaster]

Tara on the awards night redefining "headlamps".

1617

[MFKS]

yeah, **** em, what have they ever done for football?

Run the HAL into the ground for one with there wank arse business practices and the Shit fully.poor presentation where we have dimwits like Slater and Speed

Do I need to go on ??

[Couscous]

Tara on the awards night redefining "headlamps".

They are actually shining. Remarkable.

[Aegon]

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/foxtel-signals-price-hike-cuts-to-non-marquee-sports-after-417m-loss-20190513-p51msx.html

i'd say this would be worrying for FFA and the a-league.

Myself and a lot of others have long ago cancelled their fox subscriptions. Way too expensive for minimal delivery.

Not great for the A-League's coffers, but I think the medium is dying a slow death.

Kayo & other streaming platforms will slowly start taking up some of the content in the coming years as Foxtel continues to decline.

[StannyCFCJET]

Never had Fox, Home games I attend and away games I go to wests

[plague]

Kayo & other streaming platforms will slowly start taking up some of the content in the coming years as Foxtel continues to decline.

Foxtel owns Kayo.
They saw the writing on the wall years ago and know their non-sports content will eventually be taken back by their rights holders for their own streaming platforms (HBOgo, Disney+ etc). The future for foxtel is live sports via streaming.

It' (eventually) will be cheaper and more efficient to run vs traditional satellite/cable tech.

The A-league will be fine. Someone will always have room on a platform for some garbage.

[Aegon]

Foxtel owns Kayo.
They saw the writing on the wall years ago and know their non-sports content will eventually be taken back by their rights holders for their own streaming platforms (HBOgo, Disney+ etc). The future for foxtel is live sports via streaming.

It' (eventually) will be cheaper and more efficient to run vs traditional satellite/cable tech.

The A-league will be fine. Someone will always have room on a platform for some garbage.

Honestly didn't know Kayo was owned by Fox.

I watch any games I need to via My Football Live which, while not perfect, is perfectly adequate for my needs.

[MFKS]

Foxtel owns Kayo.
They saw the writing on the wall years ago and know their non-sports content will eventually be taken back by their rights holders for their own streaming platforms (HBOgo, Disney+ etc). The future for foxtel is live sports via streaming.

It' (eventually) will be cheaper and more efficient to run vs traditional satellite/cable tech.

The A-league will be fine. Someone will always have room on a platform for some garbage.

Good thing they seen it plenty of years ago and crippled the NBN plan just so their business model survived a few more years and they were able to keep rival competitors out as they exploited their nonopoly

[plague]

Good thing they seen it plenty of years ago and crippled the NBN plan just so their business model survived a few more years and they were able to keep rival competitors out as they exploited their nonopoly

#staywoke

[Jeterpool]

Honestly didn't know Kayo was owned by Fox.

I watch any games I need to via My Football Live which, while not perfect, is perfectly adequate for my needs.

Kayo is terrific for options. They need to improve their servers mug I like optus needed to last world cup

[baldrick]

I never really watched them, but Redwah mentioned to me today the three EPL club tv channels on Foxtel are gone, overnight.

[Jetmaster]

I never really watched them, but Redwah mentioned to me today the three EPL club tv channels on Foxtel are gone, overnight.

Was announced a while ago now - Fox says they want to divert their attention to their "premium" sports. It also admits they lost their war with Optus as they hooked into those channels (Spurs/Man C/Arsenal TV are gone too), to try to keep EPL fans happy.

A shame - although I don't support any of the big 6 I enjoyed dipping them when nothing else was on.

[boz-monaut]

the fact that there was so little on Foxtel meant I ended up watching the Liverpool channel

it was when I realised how little I actually cared about Sami Hyypiä's post football life that made me get rid of foxtel and save $80 a month

[Bremsstrahlung]

I signed up for the football and a league, stayed for GOT, and now Chernobyl isn’t really lighting my life on fire like some, so I think this is where my Foxtel ends.
Might sign up for Kayo though. Does anybody have Kayo?

[Aegon]

I signed up for the football and a league, stayed for GOT, and now Chernobyl isn’t really lighting my life on fire like some, so I think this is where my Foxtel ends.
Might sign up for Kayo though. Does anybody have Kayo?

The amount of people I know who have cancelled post GOT is substantial.
Fox lost me when they lost the PL. Netflix at $14p/m compared to Foxtels pricing is chalk and cheese.

[plague]

I signed up for the football and a league, stayed for GOT, and now Chernobyl isn’t really lighting my life on fire like some, so I think this is where my Foxtel ends.
Might sign up for Kayo though. Does anybody have Kayo?

no but all my friends that have switched over say its dope.
you can run that, or if you still want Fox for the HBO stuff etc just get basic Foxtel Now streaming and its like $30 a month, Kayo is about the same, but if you have a mate go halves (you get 2 devices on Kayo) and have one each.
i do Foxtel Now with sports added on and its like $50 a month or something.

[Grimario]

My mother was all "oh but we need Foxtel so I can finally watch The Wire" and that seems like a great reason because The Wire is probably the best TV show of all time. When you can buy the 5 season boxset for the cost of a month's Foxtel though, that reasoning kind of falls over.


Kayo + Optus for about the same price as monthly Foxtel without any inclusions then adding Netflix and Stan is still cheaper than an all in Foxtel bundle to cover everything.

**** Foxtel.

[plague]

My mother was all "oh but we need Foxtel so I can finally watch The Wire" and that seems like a great reason because The Wire is probably the best TV show of all time. When you can buy the 5 season boxset for the cost of a month's Foxtel though, that reasoning kind of falls over.


Kayo + Optus for about the same price as monthly Foxtel without any inclusions then adding Netflix and Stan is still cheaper than an all in Foxtel bundle to cover everything.

**** Foxtel.

Yeah that's where we will all end up anyway.
Stan will disappear once Disney+ comes along (That will also include ESPN), and HBO go will see the end of foxtel.

Kayo + Optus will cover lost of your sport for the future anyway.

Has Matriarch Brem not seen The Wire yet?
You gotta be a good son here and sort that out.

[Grimario]

Yeah that's where we will all end up anyway.
Stan will disappear once Disney+ comes along (That will also include ESPN), and HBO go will see the end of foxtel.

Kayo + Optus will cover lost of your sport for the future anyway.

Has Matriarch Brem not seen The Wire yet?
You gotta be a good son here and sort that out.

No idea about Matriarch Brem but Matriarch Grim has not. She's too busy gorging herself on some trash Spanish soap opera on Netflix.

[plague]

No idea about Matriarch Brem but Matriarch Grim has not. She's too busy gorging herself on some trash Spanish soap opera on Netflix.

Haha that's my bad G.
Should know to double check every detail when making comments that involve people's Mommas.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Whatchu sayin bout ma mama!?!?




Can confirm, she has not either.

[plague]

not quite TV but the newspaper had an A-League preview today and out of the 10 experts (well, those journos left who give a toss about the A-League) they asked, not one had the Jets in the top 6.

8 out of 10 had the Phoenix to get the spoon.
1 (Bozza) didnt answer.

The other, a certain former coach of this trash club, picked us for the spoon.

Kozzie still drinking the haterade after all these years.
made me smile.

[plague]

some trash Spanish soap opera on Netflix.

sorry, just caught this. was it Money Heist?

[furns]

Saturday evening A-League in HD on ABC. This is dizzy stuff.
Shame the Mariners had to be involved, but at least did the right thing and lost.

[Aegon]

Saturday evening A-League in HD on ABC. This is dizzy stuff.
Shame the Mariners had to be involved, but at least did the right thing and lost.

Got to be better than the Telstra My Football app. I'll be watching most saturdays.

[Jetmaster]

Just checking now....no A-League review show on a Monday night? Looks like they are just showing mini matches.

[Couscous]

I like the mini matches

[plague]

Just checking now....no A-League review show on a Monday night? Looks like they are just showing mini matches.

yeah studio shows down to a minimum, even down to the pundits they have on air being more local so they dont have to pay for flights and accom for any extra people.
The new Fox guy wants no part of sockah, the clubs might want to hope hes not there when the new TV deal gets done.
Even the CEO said as much on the podcast, the money coming from Fox is in dire jeopardy (my words not his). The clubs need to get real smart real quick with the negotiating tactics and ability to take a risk on new platforms.

[MFKS]

I be interested to see how this pans out

Viewership on all sport is down drastically and we are one of the last beggars at the table

I backing whatever scenario we end up with these players are gonna face some drastic pay cuts

About ducking time too

[plague]

I be interested to see how this pans out

Viewership on all sport is down drastically and we are one of the last beggars at the table

I backing whatever scenario we end up with these players are gonna face some drastic pay cuts

About ducking time too

I agree that the Fox contract will be an issue. But hopefully the clubs get creative esp with the online rights. Most new startups are begging for content. Theres money to be made as live sport are still the most coveted rights out there.

i cant see wages/salary cap being an issue though. The clubs will jsut allow more competition from sponsors, they'll allow owners to spend more of their own cash anyway, which most seem more than happy to do (Tony Sage has been leading this for 10 years).
Once they start earning money from transfers between clubs and utilising that asset as well, then smart teams will go closer to running their clubs like the rest of the world.

[The Dunster]

What does Kayo Sports run like ? Is it smooth as far as framerate goes or is it choppy / lagging.
I have 100mbit connection with a 5ms latency

[StannyCFCJET]

What does Kayo Sports run like ? Is it smooth as far as framerate goes or is it choppy / lagging.
I have 100mbit connection with a 5ms latency

Runs fine for me and with the very rare drop in frame rate and quality but fixes itself within 30 seconds

[The Dunster]

Runs fine for me and with the very rare drop in frame rate and quality but fixes itself within 30 seconds

Thanks Stanny. I just set Kayo Sports up and I'm very impressed. Probably will need a Weight Watchers subscription as well as it looks like I'll be spending a lot of time on the lounge.

[StannyCFCJET]

Thanks Stanny. I just set Kayo Sports up and I'm very impressed. Probably will need a Weight Watchers subscription as well as it looks like I'll be spending a lot of time on the lounge.

Haha yeah Kayo has loads on content

[mic22]

MyFootball app is now 6.99/month (was 4.99/week last year if i remember well)

[Jeterpool]

Having used both I prefer Kayo

[MFKS]

MyFootball app is now 6.99/month (was 4.99/week last year if i remember well)

With a VPN set up to some obscure country that don't show HAL

You can wtchbtge HAL on YouTube streamed live

Same Fox sports coverage

[mic22]

With a VPN set up to some obscure country that don't show HAL

You can wtchbtge HAL on YouTube streamed live

Same Fox sports coverage

How much does a good VPN cost /month?
I was also considering kayo, just looking for a buddy to share the account with.
MyFootball is working well for me atm: I'm getting a very good deal, for some reason...

[baldrick]

How much does a good VPN cost /month?
I was also considering kayo, just looking for a buddy to share the account with.
MyFootball is working well for me atm: I'm getting a very good deal, for some reason...

My Football is free for Telstra customers

[belchardo]

i love seeing people bitching about how poor the quality of the a-league is and then actively finding ways to further undermine it by looking for ways to get it for free.

[plague]

i love seeing people bitching about how poor the quality of the a-league is and then actively finding ways to further undermine it by looking for ways to get it for free.

legit though, if you're gonna have a team of gypos playing in the comp you're only gonna encourage gypos and people with gypo like tendencies (like being broke) to watch it.

[MFKS]

i love seeing people bitching about how poor the quality of the a-league is and then actively finding ways to further undermine it by looking for ways to get it for free.

But you see this is their own stupid fault anyway

I tried playing ball and bought the My Football app

Besides the shitty screen size limits they gave me they region locked the thing and even though I had paid for the thing because I had left Oz I wasn't able to use my purchase when O/S

So the simple solution to get around their consumer failure was to get a VPN to watch it whilst O/S

Problem is that same set up will work whenever I am in Oz and I can watch it on YouTube and bring the thing up to my full screen size as well

So their ****ing stupidity region locking me out of it has now come back to bite them on the arse when I cancelled My Football app

[Jetmaster]

Optus Sport has locked me out of my phone because I have put a new OS in it - so I pay for the rights but am not allowed to use my device of choice because it no longer contains Optus bloatware.

Bring back VHF ffs.

[MFKS]

Optus Sport has locked me out of my phone because I have put a new OS in it - so I pay for the rights but am not allowed to use my device of choice because it no longer contains Optus bloatware.

Bring back VHF ffs.

Had the same problem with Optus Sports

Couldn't watch the EPL on my phone when O/S even though I had paid for it

VPN

Problem solved

[Grimario]

It's almost like Optus have zero broadcast rights in other countries.

[Jetmaster]

It's almost like Optus have zero broadcast rights in other countries.

This is what I get sitting here at home....

1657

[plague]

even though i gave myself over to our Lord and Saviour Griff long long ago praise Griff for inventing the Google Chromecast, for it has made my life even easier than it already was.

Hail Griff.


Griff.

[Couscous]

Has Griff found a way to cast from the MyFootball app?

[plague]

Has Griff found a way to cast from the MyFootball app?

Griff can lead you to Kayo sports but he cannot make you drink in that HD streaming goodness.

Hail Griff.

[Jeterpool]

Griff can lead you to Kayo sports but he cannot make you drink in that HD streaming goodness.

Hail Griff.

As usual, Plague speaks the truth.

[MFKS]

Has Griff found a way to cast from the MyFootball app?

Get a VPN set it to Overseas

Then watch the game on U Tube via the My Football site

Then stream the cast from UTube

[plague]

Get a VPN set it to Overseas

Then watch the game on U Tube via the My Football site

Then stream the cast from UTube

For someone who rails against the welfare state as much as you do, you sure love getting all the free shit you can get your hands on don't ya.

Never seen this much gypo behaviour before.

Sad.

Member For Kincumber South indeed.

[The Dunster]

I'd hate to see the hookers the Member is drilling if he thinks $25 a month for Kayo Sports is too much.

[Grimario]

I'd hate to see the hookers the Member is drilling if he thinks $25 a month for Kayo Sports is too much.

Why do you think he goes to Thailand so often?

5 5 5

[MFKS]

For someone who rails against the welfare state as much as you do, you sure love getting all the free shit you can get your hands on don't ya.

Never seen this much gypo behaviour before.

Sad.

Member For Kincumber South indeed.

Their fault

I paid for their product

They jerked me around and wouldn't allow me to view it so I learned to get around their BS


Why now will I pay for it again ??

[MFKS]

Cops America is gonna be on Optus



Suarez Messi and co tearing Socceroos a new onev

[mic22]

Here we go...
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/fox-sports-ffa-on-path-to-divorce-after-a-league-instalment-not-paid-20200416-p54kj0.html


Sources with detailed knowledge of the broadcast deal suggest Fox Sports withholding the April quarterly payment is a breach of the contract, while FFA must complete the A-League season by July 1 in order to meet its obligations. Failure to do that could provide Fox Sports with the opportunity to walk away from the final three years of the deal.

Interesting to see what would happen if the A-league was able to miraculously complete the season (not impossible, I think).
Failing to pay could expose Fux to serious consequences/penalties/legal actions.
Correct?

[Premy]

Foxtel is very quickly becoming a dated service.
The A-League should look at partnering with DAZN when they launch in Australia.

[Frodo]

Foxtel is very quickly becoming a dated service.
The A-League should look at partnering with DAZN when they launch in Australia.

I reckon they'd be better doing a deal with Optus for now. Dazn doesn't have much purchase in Oz yet and we don't have anything worth showing the rest of the world.

But I'd still be happy if we did a deal with Dazn instead of Fox.

[Frodo]

Also, I know this isn't the right thread. But we need to get back to playing in Winter IMO. Brisbane can move to Dolphin Stadium, which means it's only Sydney, Citeh, Victurds and us who would need to find new stadiums.

Screw the NRL and screw free to air TV. Let's move to smaller stadiums, make it cheap to stream online and align ourselves with Asia as much as possible. FTA is dying anyways, there's barely anyone who are choosing between NRL and A League anymore. We'd be better off building something worth selling to the rest of the world than trying to match NRL crowd's and trying to sell out large stadiums.

[boz-monaut]

I reckon they'd be better doing a deal with Optus for now. Dazn doesn't have much purchase in Oz yet and we don't have anything worth showing the rest of the world.

But I'd still be happy if we did a deal with Dazn instead of Fox.

the Director of Strategy at DAZN is an old mate of mine - has lived in Australia for over a decade (doesn't now, is based in Singapore) and is very aware of the A-League

not that I can provide any insight, but I reckon they'd be a good back up if Optus falls through

can't imagine it'd be a huge amount of cash that anyone is going to trow at the A-League - at least not without some drastic changes

[Premy]

I reckon they'd be better doing a deal with Optus for now. Dazn doesn't have much purchase in Oz yet and we don't have anything worth showing the rest of the world.

But I'd still be happy if we did a deal with Dazn instead of Fox.

Once DAZN launch globally they will pull all of their content from Optus Sports and distribute it themselves. That will leave Optus with only the Premier League which I believe that deal is set for renewal and you can bet DAZN will bid for it.

DAZN were all set for a global launch on May 2nd with Canelo Alvarez vs Billy Joe Saunders being the event to launch. Now with COVID setting everything back it is highly speculated that DAZN will launch globally in September with Canelo vs GGG.

If the A-League cheifs haven't at least spoken to the DAZN executives then they are crazy, digital media and App platforms are the future and if Football can get a headstart on the other codes then that's a positive in my opinion.

[Premy]

the Director of Strategy at DAZN is an old mate of mine - has lived in Australia for over a decade (doesn't now, is based in Singapore) and is very aware of the A-League

not that I can provide any insight, but I reckon they'd be a good back up if Optus falls through

can't imagine it'd be a huge amount of cash that anyone is going to trow at the A-League - at least not without some drastic changes

You know what to do boz, get on the phone to your mate and make this deal happen������

[Frodo]

Once DAZN launch globally they will pull all of their content from Optus Sports and distribute it themselves. That will leave Optus with only the Premier League which I believe that deal is set for renewal and you can bet DAZN will bid for it.

DAZN were all set for a global launch on May 2nd with Canelo Alvarez vs Billy Joe Saunders being the event to launch. Now with COVID setting everything back it is highly speculated that DAZN will launch globally in September with Canelo vs GGG.

If the A-League cheifs haven't at least spoken to the DAZN executives then they are crazy, digital media and App platforms are the future and if Football can get a headstart on the other codes then that's a positive in my opinion.

So Optus has EPL until 2022, they have J league until 2023. They have UCL and UEL until the end of next season and are in talks to extend.

Bein Sports has EFL and lower until 2023, and they have some rights to Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, SPL, and others.

So DAZN will need to get UCL/UEL rights for 2021 before they even look at the A league, cause no one is paying $35 a month for A league only and German/Italian/French commentated football. Plus the fighting and US sports, but not all football punters care about that stuff.

I'm sure eventually the A league will move there. But given how bad the situation is right now, unless DAZN offer huge money I think Optus are the safer bet until say 2022 or 2023.

[Premy]

So Optus has EPL until 2022, they have J league until 2023. They have UCL and UEL until the end of next season and are in talks to extend.

Bein Sports has EFL and lower until 2023, and they have some rights to Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, SPL, and others.

So DAZN will need to get UCL/UEL rights for 2021 before they even look at the A league, cause no one is paying $35 a month for A league only and German/Italian/French commentated football. Plus the fighting and US sports, but not all football punters care about that stuff.

I'm sure eventually the A league will move there. But given how bad the situation is right now, unless DAZN offer huge money I think Optus are the safer bet until say 2022 or 2023.
DAZN is already partnered with everything you listed above in other territories and it's their global strategy to be the partners of those competition Worldwide.
The strategie is to use combat sports to get themselves brand recognition then acquire licensing for other high profile sports when they become available.

As for $35 a month, there is no way that is going to be the price guide. It only cost US$10 a month and Joe Markowski has been quoted as saying it will only cost £5 a month when it launches in the UK.

[Frodo]

DAZN is already partnered with everything you listed above in other territories and it's their global strategy to be the partners of those competition Worldwide.
The strategie is to use combat sports to get themselves brand recognition then acquire licensing for other high profile sports when they become available.

As for $35 a month, there is no way that is going to be the price guide. It only cost US$10 a month and Joe Markowski has been quoted as saying it will only cost £5 a month when it launches in the UK.

The article I read said that Dazn cost USD$19.99 a month and will be approx $35 for Australia. https://www.finder.com.au/dazn. I think it started off at $10 a month but doubled last year.

I'm sure that Dazn will eventually take over those sports in Aus, but for now they don't have the rights. So unless they pay Bein Sports for them, and Optus for EPL, they'll have to wait to get them. They will only have UCL/UEL to begin with, once they secure that deal at the end of next season.

I don't think the A League can wait for that to happen. So it might be better to tie itself to Optus and the EPL for now and then move to Dazn once it has some content and the pricing is a bit better.

[Jetmaster]

Agree....go Optus. Would be good to see Mel back in the saddle for A-League. Enough pundits to not need Bozza and Slater too.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agree....go Optus. Would be good to see Mel back in the saddle for A-League. Enough pundits to not need Bozza and Slater too.

I like Bozza but Slater is a tool

[Premy]

The article I read said that Dazn cost USD$19.99 a month and will be approx $35 for Australia. https://www.finder.com.au/dazn. I think it started off at $10 a month but doubled last year.

I'm sure that Dazn will eventually take over those sports in Aus, but for now they don't have the rights. So unless they pay Bein Sports for them, and Optus for EPL, they'll have to wait to get them. They will only have UCL/UEL to begin with, once they secure that deal at the end of next season.

I don't think the A League can wait for that to happen. So it might be better to tie itself to Optus and the EPL for now and then move to Dazn once it has some content and the pricing is a bit better.

It's US$19.95 If you go month by month, if you sign up to 12 months it is US$120 a similar deal will be launched globally. It's fair to assume we'll get DAZN for around $12-15 a month double that if you choose to opt in month by month.

When DAZN come to the market they won't be coming in quite, partner up with them early, be there sell, be there marketing. To me it's a no brainer the exposure and free marketing from one of the biggest sports distributor in the world, where do you sign.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ive had Optus for a few years and based on how the've handled the EPL, UCL and UEL as well as the WC, ( for me at least personally) I hope they get the Aleague

[Frodo]

It's US$19.95 If you go month by month, if you sign up to 12 months it is US$120 a similar deal will be launched globally. It's fair to assume we'll get DAZN for around $12-15 a month double that if you choose to opt in month by month.

When DAZN come to the market they won't be coming in quite, partner up with them early, be there sell, be there marketing. To me it's a no brainer the exposure and free marketing from one of the biggest sports distributor in the world, where do you sign.

But they won't have any actual football other than A league until 2021/22 at the earliest will they? They need to acquire the rights from Optus, ESPN or Being Sports before they can show anything here.

I think they'll come in hot with US sports, lots of boxing and likely all the racing deals stuff. But football won't be available to them just yet. If they buy the rights from Bein for European comps outside of the EPL and then add UCL/UEL a year later than maybe we would be better to go with them. But if they offer the same cash as Optus. I'd go with them for now, Aussie's are slow to make change and they trust Optus.

Halving the price to lock in for 12 months also looks a bit dodgy and cheap. They obviously think they don't have enough content to keep people happy during the off seasons. So $120 USD is $190 AUD, i.e. $15 a month. Which is the same as Optus, but they have EPL and may get UCL/UEL rights again.

[Premy]

But they won't have any actual football other than A league until 2021/22 at the earliest will they? They need to acquire the rights from Optus, ESPN or Being Sports before they can show anything here.

I think they'll come in hot with US sports, lots of boxing and likely all the racing deals stuff. But football won't be available to them just yet. If they buy the rights from Bein for European comps outside of the EPL and then add UCL/UEL a year later than maybe we would be better to go with them. But if they offer the same cash as Optus. I'd go with them for now, Aussie's are slow to make change and they trust Optus.

Halving the price to lock in for 12 months also looks a bit dodgy and cheap. They obviously think they don't have enough content to keep people happy during the off seasons. So $120 USD is $190 AUD, i.e. $15 a month. Which is the same as Optus, but they have EPL and may get UCL/UEL rights again.

DAZN have shown they are happy to invest and wait.

Lock the A-League rights in next year on a multi year deal if Foxtel default on their payments. Build up the content as they become available and gradually control the market. DAZN will launch in Australia with or without the A-League that's just a fact, I feel it would be beneficial for the A-League to be there when they launch rather than wait it out. They will be more inclined to invest heavier at the beginning, why not take advantage of that.

[boz-monaut]

I think the worst thing about DAZN is that you're supposed to pronounce it "da-zone"

I don't want to

[Tommyjet]

Is bridges on Optus? If so, I'd be watching the pregame and listening to the commentary less than I currently do

[Bremsstrahlung]

I think the worst thing about DAZN is that you're supposed to pronounce it "da-zone"

I don't want to


Oh dear, no.

I’ve enjoyed reading it as DAZZ-n
And makes me think of Dazza in Japan.

[StannyCFCJET]

Is bridges on Optus? If so, I'd be watching the pregame and listening to the commentary less than I currently do

Yeah and he goes alright

[Bon]

Oh dear, no.

I’ve enjoyed reading it as DAZZ-n
And makes me think of Dazza in Japan.

HAHA yes!!!!!
He was a legend..

[belchardo]

Oh dear, no.

I’ve enjoyed reading it as DAZZ-n
And makes me think of Dazza in Japan.

What about dazza in the frying pan?

[Couscous]

I always thought it was Dasian, rhymes with Asian.

[Jetmaster]

Anyone else been catching up on the Top 20 A-League Derbies?

2008 GF well down the list and for some reason a number of Smurf/Victory games are classed as "derbies".

[baldrick]

Anyone else been catching up on the Top 20 A-League Derbies?

2008 GF well down the list and for some reason a number of Smurf/Victory games are classed as "derbies".

They are on demand too if you miss them on live tv

[mic22]

Well... I wasn't expecting this.


The A-League has cleared a major hurdle for the resumption of the season after Football Federation Australia belatedly received its full quarterly payment from Fox Sports.
Football industry sources have confirmed Fox has now paid the near $12 million instalment of its broadcast deal with FFA, which was due mid-last month.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/paid-in-full-ffa-receives-belated-quarterly-sum-from-fox-sports-20200501-p54p4m.html

[Jetmaster]

Falling over themselves with Nein for the NRL would put them in a corner.

[Grimario]

Well... I wasn't expecting this.



https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/paid-in-full-ffa-receives-belated-quarterly-sum-from-fox-sports-20200501-p54p4m.html

The cynic (realist?) in me thinks "Well, this is clearly only done so when they destroy the FFA in court for not filling their contractual obligations of a completed season, FFA can't fight back with "but Foxtel didn't pay us"". Think of it as basically putting down a deposit for a bigger win at the end.

[mic22]

The cynic (realist?) in me thinks "Well, this is clearly only done so when they destroy the FFA in court for not filling their contractual obligations of a completed season, FFA can't fight back with "but Foxtel didn't pay us"". Think of it as basically putting down a deposit for a bigger win at the end.

Interesting interpretation...
Or it could the result of a negotiation to terminate the contract at the end of this season: "I'll give you 12M, you leave me alone. Goodbye"

[Aegon]

Anyone else see the news that the A league is being held up due to Fox holding them to ransom over broadcast costs?
Apparently Fox won't show the games unless FFA agree to lower the current deal from $59m down to $10m.

https://footballtoday.news/features/just-walk-away

Lots of stuff on twitter about it as well.

[Jeterpool]

Anyone else see the news that the A league is being held up due to Fox holding them to ransom over broadcast costs?
Apparently Fox won't show the games unless FFA agree to lower the current deal from $59m down to $10m.

Sooner we split away from Foxtel the better. They no longer value the sport.

[Aegon]

Sooner we split away from Foxtel the better. They no longer value the sport.

A decent streaming app that works on smart tv's, apple tv, etc would get my subscription.

[Pico]

A-league content now removed from Kayo sports, not looking good for the broadcast of the remaining rounds of this season and future seasons too.

[belchardo]

A-league content now removed from Kayo sports, not looking good for the broadcast of the remaining rounds of this season and future seasons too.

Potential alternative view - FFA have taken back streaming rights as part of the negotiations and Fox will still broadcast the games

[Jetmaster]

If A-League goes will just move Bein to Fetch and bye bye Fox.

I think they will finish the season in a watered down form - no studio coverage and minimal commentary team and cameras.

[Alan]

If A-League goes will just move Bein to Fetch and bye bye Fox.

I think they will finish the season in a watered down form - no studio coverage and minimal commentary team and cameras.

Hi guys,

The A-League on Optus makes enormous sense to me - they have the Premier League, J-League, K-League, all international and UEFA games - but I see no mention of them being in the running. FFA are either keeping this close to their chest, or Optus have no interest. I hope it is the former.

Optus' coverage is great. They have a Aussie based team for studio discussion, so would be primed and ready to go. It seems just perfect - so why no talk about it???

A

[Grimario]

Because Optus don't do any of the on ground work for those leagues. They just bought the rights from the company that produces it and stick the broadcast through their output method.

Whole different story for A-League.

[pv4]

or Optus have no interest.

Optus without a shadow of a doubt have some form of interest. But like you're saying, whether that interest is even in the playing field of realistic and for the right price is a whole different thing.

The FFA don't seem to have a tonne of bargaining power here. They have seen the value of the league decline massively.

[Jeterpool]

Because Optus don't do any of the on ground work for those leagues. They just bought the rights from the company that produces it and stick the broadcast through their output method.

Whole different story for A-League.

This is a very important observation.

There's a significant capital investment required to cover the A-League, should Optus invest.

[belchardo]

If A-League goes will just move Bein to Fetch and bye bye Fox.

I think they will finish the season in a watered down form - no studio coverage and minimal commentary team and cameras.

I will probably also drop fox.

[Pico]

Optus won't need to invest that heavily to broadcast, they would need to do the same as fox and engage NEP to conduct the live filming. They would need to be interested though in taking that on and the costs. That's why there was reports of FFA and clubs potentially going direct to NEP so they can control the desired quality then just on sell the final footage for broadcast same as premier league.

[The Dunster]

Kayo at $25 a month was great value for me. It covered everything I wanted and ran brilliantly on a big screen.
Optus from what I have seen runs like shit, has less interesting content for me and just doesn't offer me anything value wise.

[380]

Kayo at $25 a month was great value for me. It covered everything I wanted and ran brilliantly on a big screen.
Optus from what I have seen runs like shit, has less interesting content for me and just doesn't offer me anytjing value wise.

Agreed , Optus is nothing short of tragic.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Not sure a stand alone A league would be viable. Don’t know that subscriptions would outweigh the production costs etc.

Whatever they go with, if they do, will have to be providing additional content imo. Whether that’s another football league or another premier sport.

[Frodo]

Agreed , Optus is nothing short of tragic.

I've not once had an issue with my Optus app, it's miles ahead of the Kayo one. So easy to find games, stats, cast, etc. Kayo app was obviously built to make you search through crap you don't care about in the hope you'll watch some of the other stuff they licence. It already feels a few years old and it was released after the Optus app one.

[The Dunster]

I've not once had an issue with my Optus app, it's miles ahead of the Kayo one. So easy to find games, stats, cast, etc. Kayo app was obviously built to make you search through crap you don't care about in the hope you'll watch some of the other stuff they licence. It already feels a few years old and it was released after the Optus app one.

I ran Kayo through a Apple TV 4k 64gb Box - it was absolutely brilliant. Streamed HD to 32" monitor in my studio, 55" in Living Room, and to 65" in Lounge without any issues at all using 5ghz band.
We could even run Cricket and Football simultaneously without losing a single frame.

[Grimario]

The Optus one was absolute dog shit when it launched and the WC (****, that feels a long time ago) was a tragedy. It's now miles ahead IMO.

Kayo just feels clunky navigating to what you want unless it's NRL or AFL which is plastered every****ingwhere.

[Premy]

Just hereto remind you all about DAZN.

[StannyCFCJET]

Kayo at $25 a month was great value for me. It covered everything I wanted and ran brilliantly on a big screen.
Optus from what I have seen runs like shit, has less interesting content for me and just doesn't offer me anything value wise.

Optus has loads of football content specially for the prem

[Grimario]

Just hereto remind you all about DAZN.

Isn't he in Japan?

[380]

I ran Kayo through a Apple TV 4k 64gb Box - it was absolutely brilliant. Streamed HD to 32" monitor in my studio, 55" in Living Room, and to 65" in Lounge without any issues at all using 5ghz band.
We could even run Cricket and Football simultaneously without losing a single frame.

I have Foxtel with the Sports package in HD, Have the dish on the roof and have always been happy with the picture quality. On the few occasions i have used the Optus Sport App on my Samsung phone for the EPL and " mirrored " the image from my phone to my 50inch Full HD LED TV the picture quality has been terrible to the point i have just given up watching the EPL.

I am on the downside of half a century so gadgets are not my thing but i do know when i do a connection speed test on my phone WiFi'd to the house modem my speed is always 46-48 mbps and upload 17-19.

Should i be achieving a good picture on my TV via the App on my mobile ?.

[Bon]

Isn't he in Japan?

:lulzturtle:
Top work, Grim.. haha

[pv4]

380 seems to be having Optus connection problems, where Dunst seems to be talking about the Optus vs Kayo content itself.

My opinion is Optus, outside of the WC as Grim decided to remind me of that nightmare, is a terrific app and I have loved using it. The analysis, mini-matches, extra insights, etc I have enjoyed so much of, I really like the Optus content.

Kayo I found like others have said was hard to navigate, kept sending you on tangents to basically force you to watch AFL, and I found the app in general not friendly. I also had more connection issues with this than I did Optus. And I found in the end I wanted it for German football and that was about it, the rest of the content didn't interest me enough. This was the first app I abandoned when COVID hit town.

[Jetmaster]

Optus on Fetch is the best and most reliable of my providers, Fox blacks out in a storm and too much crap and ads if you go to the general channels.

My Fetch runs like clockwork at the resolution of my choosing and plenty of football on demand, minis, highlights, classics. Using the box over the app at full FTTP 100Mbps goodness helps.

[Jeterpool]

I've not once had an issue with my Optus app, it's miles ahead of the Kayo one. So easy to find games, stats, cast, etc. Kayo app was obviously built to make you search through crap you don't care about in the hope you'll watch some of the other stuff they licence. It already feels a few years old and it was released after the Optus app one.


The Optus one was absolute dog shit when it launched and the WC (****, that feels a long time ago) was a tragedy. It's now miles ahead IMO.

Kayo just feels clunky navigating to what you want unless it's NRL or AFL which is plastered every****ingwhere.

This reflects my experience and current thoughts, using both with a 4K HD Apple TV

[Frodo]

I have Foxtel with the Sports package in HD, Have the dish on the roof and have always been happy with the picture quality. On the few occasions i have used the Optus Sport App on my Samsung phone for the EPL and " mirrored " the image from my phone to my 50inch Full HD LED TV the picture quality has been terrible to the point i have just given up watching the EPL.

I am on the downside of half a century so gadgets are not my thing but i do know when i do a connection speed test on my phone WiFi'd to the house modem my speed is always 46-48 mbps and upload 17-19.

Should i be achieving a good picture on my TV via the App on my mobile ?.

By "Mirrored", do you mean cast the screen via the app or mirror the entire phone onto the TV and then open the app? Because mirroring will give you terrible quality as the phones resolution is only stretched out over the larger TV screen, whereas casting will run the app at the TVs highest resolution.

[380]

By "Mirrored", do you mean cast the screen via the app or mirror the entire phone onto the TV and then open the app? Because mirroring will give you terrible quality as the phones resolution is only stretched out over the larger TV screen, whereas casting will run the app at the TVs highest resolution.

Yep Mirrored as in the entire phone screen on the TV. So should going out and purchasing one of those Google Chromecast thingy's overcome this ?.

[The Dunster]

I hope everyone is using the 5ghz band for wi-fi and not the 2.4ghz band. The differences as far as video frame rate goes are huge.
From what I understand, most phones default to 2.4ghz wi-fi which would mostly explain peoples issues wrt frame rate and so on.
2.4ghz has enough bandwidth in theory but in reality it's so inefficient due to noise / interference that it's lucky to run at 10% of its spec.

[Jeterpool]

Yep Mirrored as in the entire phone screen on the TV. So should going out and purchasing one of those Google Chromecast thingy's overcome this ?.

Yep. OR an Apple TV.

I use both

[380]

Yep. OR an Apple TV.

I use both

Thank you for that, Next time i am out and near a retailer of one of these things i will grab one and give it a go.

[Jetmaster]

You crazy younguns with your wireless technologies!

Until I had Fetch I plugged my Android phone into my TV using an MHL HDMI cable, cost a fiver - full HD. I think there is a similar Lightning cable for all the iSheep.

[Jeterpool]

You crazy younguns with your wireless technologies!

Until I had Fetch I plugged my Android phone into my TV using an MHL HDMI cable, cost a fiver - full HD. I think there is a similar Lightning cable for all the iSheep.

:rof:

[Jeterpool]

Thank you for that, Next time i am out and near a retailer of one of these things i will grab one and give it a go.

I have Android products (phone etc) but I prefer the Apple TV as the primary means of viewing Optus and Kayo along with other catchup and streaming products.

[The Dunster]

I have Android products (phone etc) but I prefer the Apple TV as the primary means of viewing Optus and Kayo along with other catchup and streaming products.

Same here. The Apple TV interface is very slick compared to the competition. Android is terrible when it comes to TV apps.

[evolution]

Deal has been struck apparently.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/aleagues-season-in-turmoil-as-fox-sports-removes-games-from-website/news-story/5485210ded9982b544df9da395f764fe


The A-League will remain on Fox Sports next season under the terms of a deal struck in principle between the broadcaster and Football Federation Australia.

Though lawyers still have to ratify the final document, the one-year agreement was reached after talks late into the night and continuing into Friday. It’s believed to involve a significant cut to the $57m due next year under the existing contract.

The new deal is on top of an agreement struck to show the games remaining this season, and brings the relationship between the two sides back from the brink of immediate divorce.

It remains to be seen whether the new deal still gives Fox Sports exclusivity over the vast majority of games, as the broadcaster currently has, and it’s understood that negotiations may continue over the seasons beyond next year.

The suspension of the A-League due to the coronavirus pandemic had given Foxtel, the owners of Fox Sports, the right to exit the seven year deal struck in 2016 worth $57m a year, and the company had signalled earlier this week that it intended to do so.

An invoice for nearly $15m sent by FFA to Fox on Monday – for the July-September quarter – appeared to have been the catalyst for the breakdown, with Fox removing all domestic football content from its website late on Wednesday.

But the replacement deal will allow the A-League clubs and FFA time to establish their own platform to broadcast games in the future, as well as give the clubs – and players – financial surety for the next year and a half.

In the short term it is the final piece in the puzzle for the A-League to resume just 26 days until the first game. The clubs resumed training this week for the first time since March, under strict medical protocols, with the first game of the planned resumption set down for July 16.

Foxtel declined to comment. FFA has been approached for comment.

[Frodo]

So no more Fox. I wonder if we'll actually survive without that money... And now that the FFA can't pay each clubs enough to cover the salary cap, I wonder if this means the end of the salary cap entirely? That could be a good thing for some. It does mean that a huge amount of mediocre A league players will be getting either much smaller wages or not getting deals at all.

[My2BobsWorth]

I'm happy for the A league to die and start afresh without FFA because at the moment it can't get much worse, they are killing the sport

[StannyCFCJET]

Apparently deal struck for this and next season but we play in winter. Goodbye Aleague

[380]

Killing ?.. Gallop killed it just like every other sporting organisation he has overseen. Everything he has been involved in has turned to shit and only ever kept his positions through personal relationships not his professional ability. His stubbornness and nothing to see here operational style has been IMO the major reason as a product the A League is not worth a fifth of what it once was.

Throw in a FFA run protection racket for numptie officialdom week after week it is little wonder the A League has burnt through many supporters over the years.

Couldn't defend a traffic ticket in his real day job.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/19/a-league-ffa-fox-sports-broadcast-deal

Guardian saying $32m for remainder of this season and next. Next season will be december to july. Seems like all football except ffa cup.

[Thomas477]

Really concerned with the move to play in winter. We can’t forget why we play in summer to begin with.

[furns]

Really concerned with the move to play in winter. We can’t forget why we play in summer to begin with.Depends whether the NRL and AFL seasons go back to their usual start/finish or whether they decide to tweak their seasons timeframes as well.

[Thomas477]

Depends whether the NRL and AFL seasons go back to their usual start/finish or whether they decide to tweak their seasons timeframes as well.

Assuming this is a long term thing, I can’t see either changing their general timeframe. With the World Cup next year, this will be what we are stuck with for the next few years.

I honestly hope I’m wrong, but I think this is a very poor decision and I hope they return to summer comp ASAP.

[Jetmaster]

Simon Hill has just announced he is leaving Fux.

Rats, ship etc etc

[boz-monaut]

did you just call Simon Hill a rat?

[Jetmaster]

did you just call Simon Hill a rat?

No just used the analogy..lol

[Jetmaster]

Simon Hill has officially joined Optus Sport....could be interesting times, though it appears to be CL driven so far.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116910632_3173559409406384_5240504032879393569_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=4xPrqCUEzI4AX9XWtvZ&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=f0ff4bfbd21b85ebea6424886fb0efc7&oe=5F4D230B

[StannyCFCJET]

Simon Hill has officially joined Optus Sport....could be interesting times, though it appears to be CL driven so far.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116910632_3173559409406384_5240504032879393569_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=4xPrqCUEzI4AX9XWtvZ&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=f0ff4bfbd21b85ebea6424886fb0efc7&oe=5F4D230B

It's only for this season isnt it?

[Premy]

DAZN launches in Australia on December 1st, FFA or A-League chiefs get on to it.

[Retro Jet]

Hi all
What's the name of the vBulletin site that has all the A-league games?
Over the ditch? Across the ditch? Under the Southern cross?
I've lost me link!

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Hi all
What's the name of the vBulletin site that has all the A-league games?
Over the ditch? Across the ditch? Under the Southern cross?
I've lost me link!

across the tasman

[Bremsstrahlung]

Rugby announced today a deal with channel 9. One free to air match a week.
Rest of their games to be broadcast on Stan.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Simon hill on fox commentating Olyroos V Sydney fc

[Bon]

Rugby announced today a deal with channel 9. One free to air match a week.
Rest of their games to be broadcast on Stan.

Bit more about that here, in relation to A-League:

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fox-sports-u-turn-offers-cash-boost-to-independent-a-league

[Bremsstrahlung]

Would be interesting to see if nine/Stan want to acquire a league. Bidding war. Wishful thinking haha.

[boz-monaut]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fox-sports-u-turn-offers-cash-boost-to-independent-a-league

interesting turn of events

[turbojetfireV8]

if it's the same deal of scheduling to suit Fox irrespective of how shit the playing times are for the quality of football (4-5 pm in the middle of summer), no thanks...

[belchardo]

yes, i think we should go to the market, not just accept fox. we might have to accept less money, but if we can better control the scheduling then i am all for it.

however, if we do move to winter, then both the clubs and fox may not care as much about what time matches are played. fox might prefer some mid-afternoon matches to keep the late arvo and evenings free for league/AFL.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Interesting season ahead.
If there aren’t Jetz players out drumming up some business, I’ll be dammed. Prime opportunity to make the most of junior season and a league season.

By giving away tickets to player of the matches on weekends
Running those inflatable penalty kick things or kick it through a hole to win a ticket.
Don’t care what other novelty they come up with, they need to be out there at community games getting kids interested in the Jets. Most adults are done caring for their BS, so they need to win over the kids, who will nag their family to go.

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/everything-up-for-grabs-as-football-enters-fast-moving-broadcast-market-20201201-p56jia.html

good info but nothing definite.

[boz-monaut]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/super-rugby-blackout-for-pubs-and-clubs-after-tabcorp-tears-up-deal-with-stan-sport-20210219-p5747i.html

interesting article about the sheer bastardry of V'Landys coming out yet again

Tabcorp have blacked out Super Rugby in pubs and clubs

V'Landys is on the board of Tabcorp and the NRL, so has used his influence in one sphere to help another

clear conflict of interest and is exactly the sort of bastardry football, and any other sport, is up against

V'Landys is the guy who defended strapping electrodes to horses genitals and argued that people should be put at risk from Covid so that the NRL could continue it's agenda of rape and crime so at least we know the sort of **** we're dealing with here

[Bremsstrahlung]

Curious to see what impact this may have on negotiations in a year or two when NRL broadcast deal get negotiated.
Nine entertainment own Stan, who V’Landys is screwing over.

[Ghost of Plague]

So a Channel 9 owned paper is having a whinge on behalf of a channel 9 owned streaming service and you blokes on here complaining about Vlandys abusing his power?
If the rugby deal was so dope they should have no problems getting it picked up by Foxtel or Optus.
Oh also, what you are accusing Vlandys of doing is completely illegal but anyway keep piling on.
Hes a fantastic administrator. Football needs to make itself more valuable in the marketplace and the actions of other codes wont matter.

Or are we still doing that sleeping giant bullshit for the 125th year in a row.....

[boz-monaut]

so what's everyone's opinions of some little start-up called Sports Flick securing rights to the UEFA Champions League next season?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-start-up-streaming-service-s-stunning-20m-coup-snares-uefa-champions-league-rights-20210227-p576da.html

I'll wait until they go under and it comes back to Optus

[Bremsstrahlung]

Saw a post of theirs somewhere saying “home of football” with space for a few more announcements. Curious to see what they come up with.
Maybe they’ll make a push for A league streaming.
Aside from the EPL and A league, I can’t see any other leagues attracting enough interest to cover their outlay especially if already purchasing Kayo and/or Optus.
Liverpool making it an easy decision, won’t be watching them play UCL anyway.


That being said. Surely they’ve done some due diligence and figured how much they can make from sponsorships etc to make it viable. Seems a pretty quick way to crash and burn as a startup.

[Ghost of Plague]

Sure, it only took Netflix a decade to make a profit, and every other streaming company has the backing of a corporate behemoth to keep it afloat but a couple of blokes you've never heard of from some backyard in Sydney will surely have deep enough pockets to keep the ship afloat.
Makes perfect sense for the A-league to eventually get in bed with people like this.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/02/sports-flick-the-little-known-start-up-bidding-60m-for-champions-league-broadcast-rights

Bit more on them

[Bremsstrahlung]

This Sports Flicks mob’s idea of “Home of football” would be an interesting venture.
I was talking to a Bosnian guy I work with who was telling me about his global satellite he’s subscribed to so he can watch Serbian league. Said a few of his friends have a similar set up.
And it got me thinking about our footballing roots. Most of the top NPL clubs and even some community clubs have strong links to an immigrant group.
Whether it’s Italian, Macedonian, Greek, Serbian or somewhere else. Now I dare say most of the older generation grew up following a native team and still keep tabs on them.
I’m assuming here, that streaming rights to these lesser known leagues isn’t in the same league as the 60M UCL deal. So I guess it depends what kind of revenue/interest you can generate from those interested in these leagues to fund moves for the bigger leagues.

I still think the big 2 are EPL and A-league. If you get those two, I dare say a lot of people would be interested.
I’d be curious how many people have Optus and Kayo/foxtel and how many would keep the latter if Optus picked up A league

[boz-monaut]

$60,000,000 is a lot to raise for a small business in Riverstone

at least it would be to do it legally

[baldrick]

RIP theworldgame.SBS.com.au

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/sbs-sport-website-to-become-home-of-all-our-sport-content

[belchardo]

The main camera angle was making me feel sick with all the wobbling. Almost like it didn't have a tripod.

I also hope the next TV deal includes a mandated minimum number of cameras and locations for all games.

[boz-monaut]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/uefa-looks-for-alternative-as-startup-sports-flick-deal-waivers-20210418-p57k6b.html

looks like this may be going the way everyone thought it would go

[Bremsstrahlung]

Interesting.
Especially with the new super league haha