Football on TV & TV rights thread V2.0

[Bremsstrahlung]

Good bit of advertising...
Bid for one of the biggest tournaments, then just pull out.

[belchardo]

Tick, tick, tick...

ABC football podcast and Simon Hill podcast both implying something is coming soon and according to Daniel Garb, "a lot of sports would die for what we are getting". Believe it when I see it.

[Jeterpool]

according to Daniel Garb, "a lot of sports would die for what we are getting". Believe it when I see it.

Perhaps he means that other sports would die, as in fold, if they got what we are getting :lulzturtle:

[Frodo]

Perhaps he means that other sports would die, as in fold, if they got what we are getting :lulzturtle:

Lulz.

[380]

Garb talking more shite like when he was so quick to peddle the BS against Staj as legit.

Bloke has no cred with anybody operating with even half a brain.

[belchardo]

SMH saying its a race between paramount+ (channel 10/cbs) and Stan/nine. Some free to air games look likely.

Kayo might still make a late bid.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Would be interested to see how many people Stan has signed up that are interested in Rugby.
That sport seems absolutely dead in the water.

I fear if we don’t get this right, so will the a league.
Imo, there needs to be a FTA element in any deal. Just need to reach a broad audience. I’m not sure the winter comp competing with NRL and AFL for money/membership has paid off, but it’s hard to say with covid.

[boz-monaut]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/super-rugby-blackout-for-pubs-and-clubs-after-tabcorp-tears-up-deal-with-stan-sport-20210219-p5747i.html

interesting article about the sheer bastardry of V'Landys coming out yet again

Tabcorp have blacked out Super Rugby in pubs and clubs

V'Landys is on the board of Tabcorp and the NRL, so has used his influence in one sphere to help another

clear conflict of interest and is exactly the sort of bastardry football, and any other sport, is up against

V'Landys is the guy who defended strapping electrodes to horses genitals and argued that people should be put at risk from Covid so that the NRL could continue it's agenda of rape and crime so at least we know the sort of **** we're dealing with here

so this disgusting sleaze tried to sue the ABC for defamation for exposing the horse torture and general crimes going on as part of the racing industry

not surprisingly he lost

[furns]

Garb talking more shite like when he was so quick to peddle the BS against Staj as legit.

Bloke has no cred with anybody operating with even half a brain.

Really? Becasue Ive actually met the bloke and he has always struck me as honest and down to earth. Are you basing your opinion on anything in particular? Other than the Staj stuff which a lot of journos were reporting on in a similar vein.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Apparently 10/paramount + secured 5 year deal.
No specific $$$, rumoured to be “the same as Foxtel contributed in its final year”(which seems like piss all....)

Saturday evening game on channel 10, second game on BOLD.
Paramount rumoured to launch in august/sep and be $9/month

[380]

Really? Becasue Ive actually met the bloke and he has always struck me as honest and down to earth. Are you basing your opinion on anything in particular? Other than the Staj stuff which a lot of journos were reporting on in a similar vein.

Three Journos ran with it initially claiming to be aware of actual facts. L Zelic, Rushton and Garb. The remaining so called journos then ran with it.

Garb and co clearly went with the" if only others knew what we know ".

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/01/22/if-youre-in-the-know-and-on-twitter-stajcics-sacking-makes-total-sense/

I met lots of people to but couldn't tell you how far they would go to obtain some sort of self relevance.

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/05/26/a-new-broadcast-deal-is-fantastic-news-for-the-a-league/

Bit more info in this article. Contract apparently prevents a bid for AFL/NRL during the contract. I think this is a very smart move and worth the reduced income that clause would likely have caused.

[StannyCFCJET]

I assume 10 has little control and it's all paramount because last time 10 had an aleague deal they did **** all to promote the fact they have 1 game a week

[Ghost of Plague]

I assume 10 has little control and it's all paramount because last time 10 had an aleague deal they did **** all to promote the fact they have 1 game a week

Awww geez you aren't wrong. Article i read was all about bringing back the same old tired heads and voices to present the coverage good for Santo and those other blokes havent the general public missed them.
People wondering if Bozza and Foster can co exist. How bout both of them **** off outta here.
Next stop, get South Melbourne back in.
Chop chop lads, time to get on with it.

[Pico]

I assume 10 has little control and it's all paramount because last time 10 had an aleague deal they did **** all to promote the fact they have 1 game a week

10 is paramount, both owned by ViacomCBS. Have been for a few years now since the Murdoch's torpedoed 10 on their way to trying to grab a FTA broadcaster only for CBS to turn their multi year output deal into a debit and grabbing control of 10 from under the Murdoch's nose. Paramount+ is just a rebrand of 10 all access in Australia and CBS all access in the states.

The interesting news is the 2.5% stake Viacom has taken in the APL as part of the deal, they now have skin in the game to promote it as they are shareholders. The other is that the APL is in charge of all outside broadcast, on screen talent and production so that $200m is going to have to fund that production each year as well, but it means they can sell a final finished product internationally, so the APL is in control of their own destiny, from the pitch to the living room the buck stops with them.

[Couscous]

Re: Garb, he had Staj on his podcast last week and the two sounded fine. They even discussed Staj losing the Matildas job. I doubt Staj has a beef with Garb.

And if Garb's good enough for the head Mariner, he's good enough for all of you.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Awww geez you aren't wrong. Article i read was all about bringing back the same old tired heads and voices to present the coverage good for Santo and those other blokes havent the general public missed them.
People wondering if Bozza and Foster can co exist. How bout both of them **** off outta here.
Next stop, get South Melbourne back in.
Chop chop lads, time to get on with it.

FMD, I’d love to see Slater and Foster do the commentary or a weekly show.
End the season with a fight night NRL style and have the GF on a big screen in the background

[westjet]

https://www.10viacomcbs.com.au/news-and-insights/10-viacomcbs-and-football-australia-announce-largest-socceroos-and-matildas-broadcast-deal-ever/

[furns]

Great news
Will be interesting to see where the EPL and UCL rights end up

[StannyCFCJET]

Really sick of these bots!

[belchardo]

Two promos spotted featuring socceroos/a-league on channel 10

[Jetmaster]

Tom Glover on "Have You Been Paying Attention"....cross promotion begins.

[Bon]

Tom Glover on "Have You Been Paying Attention"....cross promotion begins.

Interesting.. I was reading that Archie Thompson will be on Celebrity Masterchef later this year too..

[Jetmaster]

Interesting.. I was reading that Archie Thompson will be on Celebrity Masterchef later this year too..

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/17/03/44325065-9695325-image-a-102_1623895932959.jpg

[Retro Jet]

Interesting.. I was reading that Archie Thompson will be on Celebrity Masterchef later this year too..


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/17/03/44325065-9695325-image-a-102_1623895932959.jpg

That's got me watching...at least one episode.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Bosnich to Stan

[Jetmaster]

Bosnich to Stan

Boz n Foz.

[Ghost of Plague]

How do I even watch the game tonight?
Do I need a rabbit ear antenna and a guide on how to watch poor people's TV?

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’m sure you could stream on Tenplay?

[The Dunster]

The 10play app video quality for ffa cup games was woeful. The Paramount + app is a turd as well with nowhere near the quality of fox or kayo.

Anything less than 1920x1080p in this day and age is simply not good enough.

[The Dunster]

Well the video quality of the game on Paramount + apple tv is woeful.
Image is interlaced/low quality. It seems to be a bit jerky as well possibly due to server or bandwidth issues.

Kayo and Fox look excellent in comparison through the same hardware.

I'll give itcanother month and if it doesn't improve I will scrap it.

[northern_swan]

Well the video quality of the game on Paramount + apple tv is woeful.
Image is interlaced/low quality. It seems to be a bit jerky as well possibly due to server or bandwidth issues.

Kayo and Fox look excellent in comparison through the same hardware.

I'll give itcanother month and if it doesn't improve I will scrap it.



FWIW I was watching via Apple TV and had no issues.

A couple of things they could improve on though -
* option to watch from the start if you get to the game late
* ability to pause, rewind etc

Optus & Foxtel go both have these options

[baldrick]

FWIW I was watching via Apple TV and had no issues.

Yep, me too

[Bremsstrahlung]

Didn’t think it was any better or worse than watching sports from Kayo.
Starting to wish I had Dunster’s set up, eyesight or appreciation for the finer details if this is actually a genuinely horrendous experience.

Functionality of a pause, rewind, view from start etc as mentioned would be my only real gripe. Nice to hear Simon Hill again.

[Jeterpool]

FWIW I was watching via Apple TV and had no issues.

A couple of things they could improve on though -
* option to watch from the start if you get to the game late
* ability to pause, rewind etc

Optus & Foxtel go both have these options


Yep, me too

I had it on Apple TV and the quality was dropping in and out but never lost it completely. My internet speed didn't drop below 48mbps.

Optus had similar issues at the beginning. Anyone else remember the last World Cup??? They'll sort it out

[ForeverRed]

Watched through paramount + and fetch, wasn’t the best

[mic22]

Watching with P+ app on android tv, can't complain about the quality.
Absolutely need pause, rewind etc, it's 2021 ffs.

(btw, strange to see the red and black Jets... I hope they fail)

[Jetmaster]

The WU/Victory stream was extremely poor. The 10 coverage FTA wasnt bad but the over commercialism and ad frequency spoiled it. Not up to best of Fox yet. Even had ad breaks during the game.

[380]

Unwatchable last night and tonight just as rubbish.

Need to get there shit together quickly.

[Jetmaster]

The new "theme" is annoying as well.

Haha....got Kenny Lowe commentating the Perth game. Keeps saying "we".

[Couscous]

I've never watched football at 4K so the stream was fine by me.

[Jetmaster]

I've never watched football at 4K so the stream was fine by me.

The live FA Cup finals in the 1970s on ABC were smoother.

Also downloaded app Keepup after this grammatically wonderful intro email that started:

The A-Leagues has new digs and they’re pretty great.

First impression is that it (like much of the marketing) is not for those of us over 40.

[The Dunster]

I turned on the blur and judder compensation on my TV and the coverage is now much better.
On Samsung it is listed under Automotion Plus Custom settings.
I set judder and blur to 10.
All good now.

[My2BobsWorth]

It's at the other end Dunster, you can change all you want but it's at the provider. You can watch HDTV on NBN12

[Hunter403]

Watched paramount. All good with the picture and no drop outs. No complaints here

[Jetmaster]

Mine looks ok on the Panny plasma with smoothness turned on. Havent tried on the Sony 75 inch bigboy yet. But I watch most of my football on the plasma.....just looks better to me.

[evolution]

Streaming mine to my TV through a chromecast. Works will during play but stops and stutters during pre-game and half time weirdly.

[furns]

Didn't watch live. Watched the highlights so far and no issues. Will be watching the full replay tomorrow to prepare for podcast recording.

Have ppl forgot the issues that some had with optus on their opening weeks? No streaming launch is seamless for everyone.

[belchardo]

The ads on 10 seem to be brutally cut in. They almost missed a goal about 38 minutes in.

[Jetmaster]

Have read this is happening only in the regions.

[380]

Geez this Paramount + going well, Not even a fixture tab to watch the Smurfs v Cows game in the P+ App at the completion of the City v Reds game on Free To Air 10.

Dead set abortion. If you were a organization paying for exposure of your brand on this platform you would be banging on doors asking for a pro rata refund til they get there shit together. The broadcast quality was barely an improvement on last week let alone the rubbish clunky app.

[My2BobsWorth]

If you're using that Google crap for streaming 380, buy yourself a Xmas present and get an Apple box. No phone needed. They're not perfect but much better than Google. I agree about trying to find games on Para/10 is a pain in the arse.

[Macca]

Is there any extended highlights now in the current broadcasting landscape? I quite enjoyed the mini matches from last year - 3 minute highlights showing goals only just doesn't do it for me.

[Couscous]

Yes. Paramount has mini matches that are 15 to 25 minutes each

[My2BobsWorth]

I couldn't see an option to watch from the start once the game had started. Kayo had it and I probably used it more than live last year

[Macca]

Yes. Paramount has mini matches that are 15 to 25 minutes each
How long do these take to go up normally? Next morning, ~24 hours?
How do I navigate to them?
I found it a little tough to even find the live match - besides the featured thing on the front page which I'm assuming may have only been there for round 1, I couldn't manually navigate to the game anywhere.

[Bremsstrahlung]

How long do these take to go up normally? Next morning, ~24 hours?
How do I navigate to them?
I found it a little tough to even find the live match - besides the featured thing on the front page which I'm assuming may have only been there for round 1, I couldn't manually navigate to the game anywhere.

Not sure when they go up.
I type “a league” into the search bar. Then click the icon. Then across the top there’s a match replays, mini matches, highlights and about tab.

[Bremsstrahlung]

On that, last weeks mini matches were around 16-18 minutes. Now they are all pretty much bang on 24 minutes.
I’d like to think they made them longer based on feedback.

Early days for them, so willing to give them some slack for a few more weeks but the:
App needs some refining if they want it to be easily navigated.
Pause and rewind functions
Start from Beginning function.
In general improve the reliability of the stream.

[Alton]

On that, last weeks mini matches were around 16-18 minutes. Now they are all pretty much bang on 24 minutes.
I’d like to think they made them longer based on feedback.

Early days for them, so willing to give them some slack for a few more weeks but the:
App needs some refining if they want it to be easily navigated.
Pause and rewind functions
Start from Beginning function.
In general improve the reliability of the stream.

Streaming quality on Saturday was horrendous

[Jetmaster]

Streaming quality on Saturday was horrendous

Jets game was perfect at 50fps (best on P+ so far) but the sound went for 10 mins.

[380]

Jets game was perfect at 50fps (best on P+ so far) but the sound went for 10 mins.

It was the best image quality to date but only when it was working fine. At least a dozen and a half times the refresh circle appeared and then we had the extended audio out . The Victory v Roar game was atrocious pic quality.

[sammydog]

It was the best image quality to date but only when it was working fine. At least a dozen and a half times the refresh circle appeared and then we had the extended audio out . The Victory v Roar game was atrocious pic quality.

No problem with the image here. Didn't notice the sound, but then we had it turned down as we had people over to watch.

[Bon]

No problem with the image here. Didn't notice the sound, but then we had it turned down as we had people over to watch.

Yeah, I was watching it at a local pub and the picture quality was fine... No issues other than there seemed to be a 40 second lag, as my phone was going nuts about goals before anyone was even close to a chance..
Soundwise, there was none in the pub, but from what I've heard it is probably a good thing that I couldn't hear Harper banging on..

[Jetmaster]

No issues other than there seemed to be a 40 second lag, as my phone was going nuts about goals before anyone was even close to a chance.

Do yourself a favour and just turn the phone off and enjoy the game. Streaming will always lag.

[baldrick]

The picture quality on P+ for the Sydney game was pretty good.

I spent a bit of time trying to get rid of a horrible whining in the audio at the end of the game, then I realised it was just the pro Sydney commentators

[Jetmaster]

The picture quality on P+ for the Sydney game was pretty good.

I spent a bit of time trying to get rid of a horrible whining in the audio at the end of the game, then I realised it was just the pro Sydney commentators

This is going to piss everyone off no end. I was hoping it would end with Fox but it doesn't look like it. And it doesn't just happen to us.

The other night was that one eyed it was pitiful. Starting with Tara and "Brosquie", then "Bimby" and his look alike contest. The sideline twit made his loyalties clear last week when he ranted about why the WSW keeper nearly saved Beka's penalty, completely ignoring the personal story right in front of his eyes. Raving on about superiority when we have won a couple of times there in the last 18 months.

"Redders", "Rhino", "Wilko", "Ninko", Alfie" all got their mentions via nickname familiarity. It was lucky that "Tino" stepped up and they had no choice but to interview him - mind you not before hearing from several SFC players first.

Then Salty Corica to finish with Papas nowhere to be seen.

[Couscous]

I've have no problems with Paramount and I'm baffled about why everyone's upset.

[Couscous]

Link's broken ⬆️

[belchardo]

interesting that the picture quality on 10play is much better for the FFA cup game than it was for the world cup qualifier. Does FFA control the broadcast for world cup qualifiers?

[A.J.]

Anyone know of any local pubs that have paramount +? Planning to go with some mates Saturday but if weather is shit pub is next best option

[Jetmaster]

Planning to go with some mates Saturday but if weather is shit pub is next best option

Call yourself a football fan? :wink:

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Anyone know of any local pubs that have paramount +? Planning to go with some mates Saturday but if weather is shit pub is next best option

Pretty sure Alder Park Sports Club show all Jets games (not a pub, but it has beer)

[My2BobsWorth]

We should have a black ban list on here of places that dont have para, pretty sure wests would free up a tele, they're not stupid

[Jetmaster]

We should have a black ban list on here of places that dont have para, pretty sure wests would free up a tele, they're not stupid

Yep - found it:

1761

[boz-monaut]

the Europa League and Champions League finals will be shown on Free To Air on 9Gem

[sapdad]

Did anyone else see that Optus are raising prices from $140 to $200 for Optus sport (non customers) and now charging $7 per month for customers that previously had it free with their phone plans.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just saw they are committing to delivering 1080HD pictures for the entire EPL season!
They genuinely think that’s a brag? FMD

[northern_swan]

Did anyone else see that Optus are raising prices from $140 to $200 for Optus sport (non customers) and now charging $7 per month for customers that previously had it free with their phone plans.

What annoys me is the fact that it's not tiered dependent on what services you have with them. I've got 2 phones and home internet and get the same discount as someone on a minimum phone plan.

First world problems I know, but it doesn't seem well thought out by Optus

[Bremsstrahlung]

Optus obtain La Liga rights.

[Aegon]

Optus obtain La Liga rights.

Great news IMO

[Jeterpool]

Hey all,

I have read a few tweets that Paramount+ renewals are coming up for many who took up cheaper options as members last year.

No details have been released for this year, but apparently the APL are working on a discounted option for members this year.

If you don't want to be charged $90 for the year, suggest you cancel the subscription.

[MFKS]

Hey all,

I have read a few tweets that Paramount+ renewals are coming up for many who took up cheaper options as members last year.

No details have been released for this year, but apparently the APL are working on a discounted option for members this year.

If you don't want to be charged $90 for the year, suggest you cancel the subscription.


Those clowns end up fixing the BS where last season I would be at work I would stay off the internet then get home and want to watch the game oblivious to the result etc only to find out because I didn't watch the ****er live Paramount made me wait until the next day to watch the game ??

Farce of a situation in 2022 with technology available to us to be so shitful

[Jeterpool]

Those clowns end up fixing the BS where last season I would be at work I would stay off the internet then get home and want to watch the game oblivious to the result etc only to find out because I didn't watch the ****er live Paramount made me wait until the next day to watch the game ??

Farce of a situation in 2022 with technology available to us to be so shitful
Nope. Lots of stuff they never fixed or improved

[Jetmaster]

Hey all,

I have read a few tweets that Paramount+ renewals are coming up for many who took up cheaper options as members last year.

No details have been released for this year, but apparently the APL are working on a discounted option for members this year.

If you don't want to be charged $90 for the year, suggest you cancel the subscription.

Got the club email last night - luckily on monthly payments so just the $8.99 paid so far - the members option should have been sorted before renewal dates.

[boz-monaut]

I signed up for Optus TV/phone/internet in March 2017, and immediately cut it off after it was terrible

they didn't get around to cutting off my access from the Optus Sport app, so since then I'd been getting Premier League for free (and Champions League until they lost that)

up until this weekend that is, when they've cut me off for some reason (probably to do with not paying)

I'm considering getting Paramount so I can suffer through the Jets games - doesn't seem like there's a great deal on the service other than that

[Jetmaster]

I'm considering getting Paramount so I can suffer through the Jets games - doesn't seem like there's a great deal on the service other than that

My Optus service has been perfect, no complaints.

Optus Sport was free to all customers (current and legacy) until the EPL started this season. New subs are $24.99 a month and active subs are now $6.99 a month which is fine by me. Some web idiots complaining you shouldn't pay because they don't do 4k, but FMD you get all EPL and La Liga games for starters....though I no interest in J League, Optus Fitness or Women's Premier League tbh.

The tactic will be to sub services during the season and then cancelled or pause - I have done that with Stan until the Euro games ramp up again.

[Jeterpool]

I agree. Optus and Kayo as a service both have great pros and the cons I can generally work-around and aren't show-stoppers like those experienced in Paramount (if you haven't used it, Boz, I suggest trying it out for a month first).

From the whole Optus charge restructure I've ended up paying for 12 months and I got a cheaper mobile plan which has put me ahead.

It's a personal choice and what you do and don't use...and what you can afford.

[belchardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/a-league-women-new-broadcast-deal/101413212

So two men's games on FTA this year, all women's available free via 10play. Men's games on 10bold.

Mixed feelings. Good that there is more access for the women but offset by perception of less prominence. Good to get two games on FTA for the men (Saturday night, Sunday 3pm) but the same prominence issue.

[MFKS]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/a-league-women-new-broadcast-deal/101413212

So two men's games on FTA this year, all women's available free via 10play. Men's games on 10bold.

Mixed feelings. Good that there is more access for the women but offset by perception of less prominence. Good to get two games on FTA for the men (Saturday night, Sunday 3pm) but the same prominence issue.

It's a great thing that we get to see 2 games of the superior product instead of being forced to watch any version of the inferior product to follow someone's false god of diversity of outcome

The women's game is not that popular amongst the punters as the quality is not good enough

[belchardo]

It's a great thing that we get to see 2 games of the superior product instead of being forced to watch any version of the inferior product to follow someone's false god of diversity of outcome

The women's game is not that popular amongst the punters as the quality is not good enough

You're normally much better at trolling than that effort member.

[MFKS]

You're normally much better at trolling than that effort member.

I don't need to try that hard on that one

Reality is no matter how much they try and dress up women's sport and try and inflate it's worth the reality is people ain't interested in it enough to care to watch it in enough numbers

[mic22]

Many people complaining about the games being on 10Bold instead of 10: is it really that important?
All the channels are the same to me...

[Maito Mitch]

And what about being able to pause a live game? Or watch from the start if you miss kick off?

Two of the biggest issues for me in the whole league because watching the games is so difficult

Even when I get a chance to watch a replay (after waiting til the next day ffs) the picture quality is terrible

I was pretty positive about it moving to 10/paramount but it's completely killing the experience for me

[Bremsstrahlung]

You're normally much better at trolling than that effort member.

Agree. Been disappointed lately.
Has resorted to mentioning Liverpool in every post.

Can’t wait til we get to the Arsenal trolling so Frodo and friends can have a chuckle.

[Jetmaster]

Many people complaining about the games being on 10Bold instead of 10: is it really that important?
All the channels are the same to me...

10 is in HD, Bold isn't. That is a problem.

Sort of agree with the Member but in a more passive way. The ladies A-League just isn't that popular - crowd and TV viewing figures prove this and they can't get advertisers so it has been moved to streaming. It has its place and can improve but some of the publicity does gild the lily a bit.

[Buddha]

FTA HD channels arent that good anyway tbh. When i am looking for something to watch on FTA (rarely), i usually just hit the TV Guide button to find it. Changing from HD to bold wont make much difference

[Jetmaster]

FTA HD channels arent that good anyway tbh. When i am looking for something to watch on FTA (rarely), i usually just hit the TV Guide button to find it. Changing from HD to bold wont make much difference

True - it is actually better to stream the live channels like Bold from 10Play anyway. Slightly better pic quality.

FTA has never got HD right.

[StannyCFCJET]

Do we have paramount+ discount codes yet?

[MFKS]

Do we have paramount+ discount codes yet?

Got an email today

Any idea how much they charging once you redeem the offer ??

[StannyCFCJET]

Got an email today

Any idea how much they charging once you redeem the offer ??

75 dollars which I paid, Normal price is 90 for the year, But now just waiting for an email with a code to redeem hopefully

[Jetmaster]

https://twitter.com/ParamountPlusAU/status/1577433681874288640


Dear football fans

We want to be upfront with you, and unfortunately live pause and rewind won’t be ready for the start of the 2022/23 A-Leagues Season. We understand your frustration and we’re continuing to work on this feature. As soon as it is ready, we will let you know.

:popcorn:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Lololol.
I wonder what the people in charge of solving this problem have been doing for 18 months?
Surely they have one of the best jobs. To not be fired after not being able to replicate Stan, Optus sport, Kayo or any other streaming service does is laughable.

[Jetmaster]

Don't you miss the days of "taping" things?

Was so much easier.

[MFKS]

Don't you miss the days of "taping" things?

Was so much easier.

Have they managed to un**** the problem where if I am at work I can watch the game when I get home or do I have to still wait for sometime Monday to be able to ****ing watch it ??

[My2BobsWorth]

Don't hold your breath memba, as someone said in the Twits, they probably went with the el cheapo streaming engine, which only does one thing, badly

[Buddha]

Lololol.
I wonder what the people in charge of solving this problem have been doing for 18 months?
Surely they have one of the best jobs. To not be fired after not being able to replicate Stan, Optus sport, Kayo or any other streaming service does is laughable.

Paramount in the US and other areas has the ability. It's more that they dont care enough to fix the problems. Won't be surprised if they try and back out of the contract

[380]

Just when you thought Paramount couldn't f%^k things up any worse it is now like watching a old episode of Monkey Magic with the audio delay.

Useless twats

[MFKS]

Just when you thought Paramount couldn't f%^k things up any worse it is now like watching a old episode of Monkey Magic with the audio delay.

Useless twats

Only difference is Monkey was a legendary show

[belchardo]

I'm going to tip my hat to the APL - I'm seeing ads on TV, hearing them in podcasts and seeing them on a massive billboard near the airport.

And I live in Canberra. Well done.

[belchardo]

Reports in News that cricket australia have given the rights to 7/fox again. Not a great sign for paramount.

[Couscous]

That's probably good.

[My2BobsWorth]

I always thought Kayo was as bad as you could get, but there you go

[Maito Mitch]

What's wrong with kayo?

Ever tried to use paramount?

[plague]

So good to see Craig Foster becomming even more of an insufferable prick in his new role as Republican movement boss.

Im all for changing our system but for Griffs sake why do these people think that employing the biggest fart sniffing wankers out there is going to give anyone the motivation to join in. First Fitzsimmons, now this twerp.

[belchardo]

Email from the club

PARAMOUNT PLUS MEMBER OFFER

The member discount offer to Paramount+ is no longer available.

For the 23/24 A-Leagues season, Paramount+ will not be offering members an exclusive discounted offer. Instead, football fans should keep an eye out for new offers, promotions and platform improvements heading into the new season.

[belchardo]

From the FAQ

Q: Will playback options such as pause/rewind, start from beginning etc. get added to the service in time for the 2023/24 season?

A: Live time shifting is currently being tested and will be rolled out as soon as possible. We will keep you updated.

[mic22]

Time to save some $$$

[R Ramjet]

I wonder if Stan Sport/9 will have any interest in the A League.
After initially sounding promising, the Paramount/10 deal has been a failure.

[Jeterpool]

I see Paramount no longer have the FA Cup rights. They've gone to Optus.

[boz-monaut]

I see Paramount no longer have the FA Cup rights. They've gone to Optus.

really? that's awesome news

[Bremsstrahlung]

I think the way people consume media has changed an awful lot since the a league started.

Only option to watch was go live, or Foxtel subscription.

If you had Fox you could basically just flip on the tv and have the shows and games. The commentary and shows were entertaining (at least compared to the monotonous garbage served up now). There was a main sports channel and it was loaded with football over the season.


Now, many people don’t even have aerial tv. People have to actively go out of their way to consume the product. Most households have multiple subscriptions to services. I’d hazard a guess and say most have Netflix. Stan, Binge, Amazon. Into sport? Kayo has the best options. Into football? You’d probably consider Optus sport for the EPL, Euros, WC.

It’s a catch 22. If you were to make a play at Kayo/Fox to take us over, they’d offer unders. But the incidental exposure and other things Kayo offer would allow a bit more reach. Or you’ve got an option like 10/paramount who offered the most, but most people don’t really want a paramount subscription. Matilda’s probably responsible for most of their traffic over the last 12 months.



Not sure what the move is.
The sustainability of clubs at the moment relies on broadcast deals. We need to shift that reliance imo.


Not saying it’s the way forward but a lot of NRL clubs have associations with Leagues Clubs. Panthers are a brand and successful. Wests and the Knights. Etc. It’s additional revenue that reduces the reliance on mummy and daddy at APL saying here’s your pocket money for the year.
Other ventures from clubs could be the way forward in the medium term.


WSW and their facility for example. Could be running comps on their artificial turf 5-a sides or hiring out to community for use. Not sure how the break even would be for artificial pitches and infrastructure, but it could be a steady revenue. Community is Crying out for fields for games to be played on. AL clubs could take advantage of this.

[380]

Id love to know how Paramount came up with the subscription figure that subsequently enabled them to reduce the monies paid to the APL citing a lack of subscriptions.

Was the club membership model + Paramount subscription used as the soul metric ?.

Take me for example my Paramount subscription has never been a add on box tick to my Jets membership, I subscribed independently. My primary motive for a Paramount subscription was the A League but here is the kicker. Has it been included in the KPI Paramount have used to justify a reduction in there payment for the broadcast rights ???

I know of at least 3 other household who's subscription is independent of there A League club membership but the primary reason.

The potential for Paramount to manipulate and exclude theses subscriptions figures in this way has always bothered me, especially when they are so critical to what Paramount has to pony up for financially

Would be a great question for the new bloke or our seldom seen seldom heard from EC.

[ForeverRed]

Id love to know how Paramount came up with the subscription figure that subsequently enabled them to reduce the monies paid to the APL citing a lack of subscriptions.

Was the club membership model + Paramount subscription used as the soul metric ?.

Take me for example my Paramount subscription has never been a add on box tick to my Jets membership, I subscribed independently. My primary motive for a Paramount subscription was the A League but here is the kicker. Has it been included in the KPI Paramount have used to justify a reduction in there payment for the broadcast rights ???

I know of at least 3 other household who's subscription is independent of there A League club membership but the primary reason.

The potential for Paramount to manipulate and exclude theses subscriptions figures in this way has always bothered me, especially when they are so critical to what Paramount has to pony up for financially

Would be a great question for the new bloke or our seldom seen seldom heard from EC.
The fee paid by Paramount to the APL has not changed, the distribution of that money by the APL to clubs is the only thing that?s changed, don?t get confused peeps, the APL still received the amount owed from paramount, that didn?t change

[Eastwest]

The fee paid by Paramount to the APL has not changed, the distribution of that money by the APL to clubs is the only thing that?s changed, don?t get confused peeps, the APL still received the amount owed from paramount, that didn?t change

APL are *****

[380]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11544553/The-HUGE-fail-prompted-League-make-10million-deal-sell-grand-finals-Sydney.html

[380]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11544553/The-HUGE-fail-prompted-League-make-10million-deal-sell-grand-finals-Sydney.html


A lack of subscriptions from A-League fans for Paramount+ is the reason why grand finals for the next three years will be played in Sydney, it has been reported.

Last season, a five-year, $200million broadcast deal was signed with Network 10 and Paramount+ - but a key clause in the contract revealed a certain number of subscriptions for A-League coverage on Paramount+ was integral.

Once those targets were not met, the flow-on effect saw less money passed onto the A-League and its clubs - leaving Australian Professional Leagues CEO Danny Townsend to chase a deal worth at least $10million with Destination NSW, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

When Townsend announced the deal on Monday, many football fans, players and clubs were blindsided.

The backlash has been severe, with supporters from Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory planning to walk out of this weekend's derby at AAMI Park in protest.
A lack of subscriptions from A-League fans for Paramount+ is the reported reason why grand finals for the next three years will be played in Sydney - it left APL boss Danny Townsend scrambling for a new deal, which he struck with Destination NSW

A lack of subscriptions from A-League fans for Paramount+ is the reason why grand finals for the next three years will be played in Sydney - it left APL boss Danny

[ForeverRed]

Simon Hill reported on his podcast saying the money given to the APL hadn?t changed 🤷*♂️

[Frodo]

I don't think an article from the Daily Mail is worth putting any stock in.

[furns]

The fee paid by Paramount to the APL has not changed, the distribution of that money by the APL to clubs is the only thing that?s changed, don?t get confused peeps, the APL still received the amount owed from paramount, that didn?t change
Its been pretty widely reported that the APL isnt receiving the full amount from Paramount/10 due to the metrics built into the broadcast deal.
Thats the fault of whoever negotiated the deal in the first place - Im assuming that was Danny Townsend.
Pretty sure there was an article on codesports that went into some detail on it and the other wastages at the APL.

[380]

I don't think an article from the Daily Mail is worth putting any stock in.

Nonetheless the revenues from the broadcast deals has always been divided up amongst the club for there salary cap hence there has always been a salary cap floor ( min spend) so club owners could not pocket any of it.

As Furns has explained this is common knowledge that KPI's were not met ie subscription numbers and as a result the amount Paramount cough up is substantially less. This prompted my question just how did Paramount come to the subscription figure when many would not have attached there Paramount subscription to there membership like myself and several others i know.

It was another one of DT's cluster %^&8 decisions and certainly no secret since the prostituting of the GF as a revenue raising decision to make up the shortfall from Paramount. I don't think there has been one single season where Paramount have been made to pay up the initial reported amount citing unmet targets.

There has never been any financial benefit for them to improve the quality of product they provide as the increase in subscriptions probably wouldn't be greater than the amount they get to wriggle out of paying the APL to broadcast the game.

[My2BobsWorth]

Red says has been reported, Furns says has been reported, how about they come clean with some facts about the deal

[My2BobsWorth]

To further muddy the waters, it was reported (not fact) that Silverlake activated a clause in the contract, that turns their stake in the A league, into a debt which APL must now pay. So the Para money may be the same but paying down the debt has reduced the payment to clubs

[Retro Jet]

Hi chaps
I thought this was as good a thread as any to post this...

I'm finally looking at getting a Paramount subscription after the disaster of trying to watch the Socceroos the other night.
Can someone tell me here or just PM me details about what you get and for how much? I just want to watch A-League and Socceroo games.
Not interested in any sub-extensions for movies etc...unless it's the other way around and you need an extension to watch football?

Also, a mate tells me there's a way to make them sh!t the bed if you go to unsubscribe. Then they offer you a discounted deal.
Is that true?

Cheers.

[Jetmaster]

$9.99 gets you everything, add $4 for 4k. There is a 7 day free trial. I never bother with negotiating for something that is less than $10. You pay more for two coffees. And you cancel online yiurself anyway.

If you are that anal you can find some discount deals online.

[plague]

a) don't be a poor. Just pay your bill and leave the low rent shit to the gypos.

b) by paying your bill, it creates hope that paramount might finally be able to afford someone better than Brosque and Thompson as analysts.


Let's all think long term here lads. Support the multinationals.

[NUGUNS]

VPN and youtube gets Aleague matches on the Aleague channel.

AFC channel for Socceroos WC qualifying.

Easiest VPN is using the built in free opera browser, gets better quality than Ten bold on FTA and Ten Play streams.

[Premy]

https://www.afr.com/companies/media-and-marketing/billionaire-backed-british-sports-streamer-turns-foxtel-suitor-20241121-p5ksf3

Live sports broadcasting in Australia could be set for a huge shake up.

[ForeverRed]

https://www.afr.com/companies/media-and-marketing/billionaire-backed-british-sports-streamer-turns-foxtel-suitor-20241121-p5ksf3

Live sports broadcasting in Australia could be set for a huge shake up.
Just like foxtel the story is behind a paywall

[belchardo]

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/dazn-foxtel-group-australia-kayo-sports-news-corp-stake-takeover-interest-november-2024/

Rehash of the AFR article. Basically, DAZN might buy foxtel.

[belchardo]

Sale of foxtel to DAZN confirmed this morning.

[Couscous]

Sale of foxtel to DAZN confirmed this morning.

What do you think this means? I'm amazed anyone's buying cable TV channels.

[Premy]

What do you think this means? I'm amazed anyone's buying cable TV channels.

My guess would be Foxtel doesn't change to much in the interim.
Foxtel channels Fox Sports 1 etc will be changed to DAZN 1 etc. Most likely means the death of Kayo and all Foxtel sports content will be made available to stream on DAZN.

[plague]

Eric Paartalu sounds like he's been diligently studying VHS tapes of Andy Harper's greatest calls, but to have a proper Newy boy in the booth isn't a bad thing.