2018/19 Squad

[Bon]

Lachy is good, but he needs to start every week next to topor to really tell.


I would agree with this.

[evolution]

Mitch Austin gone

https://t.co/EibAwQyArD

[StannyCFCJET]

Mitch Austin gone

https://t.co/EibAwQyArD
Looked more lively then guys like Jair so hopefully we get a replacement

[evolution]

Looked more lively then guys like Jair so hopefully we get a replacement

Not that he plays the same position but have heard we are signing Matt Millar from the gypos. Be great if true, he’s been far and away their best player all year.

Also Austin has signed for Sydney FC, thought he would be back at the gypos for sure.

[Jetmaster]

Also Austin has signed for Sydney FC, thought he would be back at the gypos for sure.

Will be in the Socceroos frame by end of season now....

[StannyCFCJET]

How does Austin get more gametime at Sydney?. Sidenote if he does and does well then Ernie looks even more stupid for not giving him a go

[plague]

without wanting to get into the whole debate about gypos and our club, but isnt it time the Double-eff-aye just signed off on club transfers and at least let these clubs losing players get some cash from the big boys*.

this whole crap about 'player is unhappy, player gets chatted up by the town slut club, player asks for release, club releases him acts like nothings up then signs straight away for other club' just looks silly.

lets make it a proper slave trade and have these fat owners put their paddles in the air in order to sign someone.













*soz, should have typed 'plus sized gender non binary' clubs.

[plague]

Will be in the Socceroos frame by end of season now....

prob needs a decent knee injury first though.

[Jetmaster]

Wow...according to NBN Millar has been sent home from training at Mariners this arvo for signing a 2 year Jets deal. PFA involved.

Already a ledge.

1599

[Frodo]

We need to allow transfers. Imagine if we had to pay money for guys like Austin or Ridenton? Such a good deterrent to get rid of footballers who aren't up to the standard and a great way for clubs to profit from development.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Austin gone, Millar signed
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie310119.mp4

Jackson from yesterday

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjackson300119.mp4

[The Dunster]

Why would we sign Millar ffs. He's a right back / right mid.

Make no sense unless club can only afford to keep one out of Hoff and Gorgeous George

[Frodo]

Why would we sign Millar ffs. He's a right back / right mid.

Make no sense unless club can only afford to keep one out of Hoff and Gorgeous George

Hopefully one of them will be moved on. We don't need both of them given their high wages.

Also, this signing is great even just for laughs. Absolutely crushing them with this transfer.

[The Dunster]

Hoffs got a lot of utility value and Georgevski has been one of, if not our best player this season. If the club doesn't retain them I'm convinced we are severely strapped for cash.

[plague]

when is ivan signed til? you'd have to think hed be on the chopping block yeah?

[StannyCFCJET]

when is ivan signed til? you'd have to think hed be on the chopping block yeah?

Think this season

[Frodo]

when is ivan signed til? you'd have to think hed be on the chopping block yeah?

Knowing our club, we will either let him go elsewhere to become a starter or we will sign him to a 2 year deal and barely ever start him.

[Jeterpool]

Why would we sign Millar ffs. He's a right back / right mid.

Make no sense unless club can only afford to keep one out of Hoff and Gorgeous George

I think we will be balancing the books because I reckon we threw a fair bit of cash to get him (remember at the time we were bottom of the league and he won the Championship and the Joe Marston Medal).

Gorgeous started the season really slow, but has come on strong the last few weeks. Is this a sign of his age? His discipline is questionable too. Will he be tempted to go to Western Melbourne for a few seasons? He'd be a big signing for them.

Millar has shone in a dour season for the mariners. He gets forward and that's what Ernie wants. He fits the profile for I'd suggest much less money. Money we can use to combine with Italiano's wage and be used for....i don't know...Birighitti???

[Jeterpool]

when is ivan signed til? you'd have to think hed be on the chopping block yeah?

Stanny is correct. Ivan is signed until the end of next season.

[Jeterpool]

Also, credit where it is due regarding Austin. In the past we would have signed a player like this for 2 years. We did a strong due diligence and I reckon he was on base coin. It's not worked out and we've probably pushed his agent to find him a new club. We've let him go and only out of pocket for 6 months wages. We'd have normally struggled to achieve this.

[Jetmaster]

Ok...just listened (3 times to be sure what I heard) to Mulvey.

He said the Jets offered FIVE different players to the Gypos to get Millar over the line by end of transfer window.

WTF?

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Millar story

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/mattmillar010219.mp4

[The Dunster]

NBN Millar story

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/mattmillar010219.mp4

Well done to the Jets for posting the email about commencing negotiations with Millar to an address longer used or monitored by the Central Coast Mariners.

[Jetmaster]

Well done to the Jets for posting the email about commencing negotiations with Millar to an address longer used or monitored by the Central Coast Mariners.

Bet Griff didn't get an "undeliverable". Gypos fault for changing dial up providers again....

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on win
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetswsw020219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie040219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

there was a story on NBN tonight but the link wasn't working when I went to it
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/02/05/dimi-petratos-still-in-doubt-for-phoenix-clash/

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Hoff
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/hoff200060219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN other night, just vision from Wankerers game pre Wello game
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsteam070219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN members day
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfans090219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Story included interview with Lawrie but appears they haven't included it online:
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/02/11/newcastle-jets-ceo-issues-call-to-arms-ahead-of-acl-qualifier/

Finally up:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsasiapre110219.mp4

[Mark325]

so us, the mariners and Sydney are in talks to be signing Roy Krishna

I'd imagine we wonder have Jair next season and this is a good replacement for him in my opinion

[Hunter403]

so us, the mariners and Sydney are in talks to be signing Roy Krishna

I'd imagine we wonder have Jair next season and this is a good replacement for him in my opinion

It might well depend on how well he got on with Ernie. I'd rather have Singh

[StannyCFCJET]

Krishna is 31. No thanks just another short term option. We need another young quick aussie forward to help sheps

[380]

Krishna ?. No thanks bloke was going down quicker than a 10 buck alley whore last week. Only saving grace is he would be multitude times better than the last Nux outfield player Ernie acquired which wouldn't be hard.

[MFKS]

Wouldnt he count as a foreigner??

[Frodo]

Everyone wanted a Nabbout replacement. He is as close as we will get playing style wise, plus he knows the league, plus he knows the coach. Remember, they are only c$nts when they play for other teams, once he starts diving for us it will be totally fine.

[Bon]

Everyone wanted a Nabbout replacement. He is as close as we will get playing style wise, plus he knows the league, plus he knows the coach. Remember, they are only c$nts when they play for other teams, once he starts diving for us it will be totally fine.

Exactly.. I'd take him in a heartbeat..

[pv4]

Wouldnt he count as a foreigner??

He would but we don't even use all our visa player spots as is.

[Jeterpool]

I'd take Krishna. Pace, guile and scores goals (except pens). Just what we've been missing this season.

Who is reporting our interest?

Regardless, it's a move of intent from the club if it's true. We've moved quick on our target with Matt Millar, we've re-signed key players within the squad and those we see as the future. Acting like an aggressive club and I like it.

[Bon]

I'd take Krishna. Pace, guile and scores goals (except pens). Just what we've been missing this season.

Who is reporting our interest?

Regardless, it's a move of intent from the club if it's true. We've moved quick on our target with Matt Millar, we've re-signed key players within the squad and those we see as the future. Acting like an aggressive club and I like it.

Wasn't there rumors we were trying to sign Krishna at the start of the season?? Obviously Ernie knows him from his time there..

[Jeterpool]

Wasn't there rumors we were trying to sign Krishna at the start of the season?? Obviously Ernie knows him from his time there..

There was, and I'm not surprised he is of interest again.

[Couscous]

Turbo, why are you posting all your news in the squad thread?

[Bon]

Turbo is doing great work..
Get back to fluffing up your resume!!

[The Dunster]

Problem with Krishna is he scores goals and doesn't have any long term injury concerns. Not sure he's Jets material to be honest.

[Bon]

Problem with Krishna is he scores goals and doesn't have any long term injury concerns. Not sure he's Jets material to be honest.

:lulzturtle:

[Onyatoes]

There was, and I'm not surprised he is of interest again.
Well.....our return to the ACL.was without a doubt the most awful example of football I have seen played by apparent professionals in a very long time. We do we start? ODonovan, really? Petratos? The mistakes are comical, the standard is really very poor. Rather embarrassing for football fans locally if this is what we get behind week to week. ET against such a poor opponent leaves me in a tailspin.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN wrap up
https://s9752.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/1302jets.mp4

[Bon]

According to the club, Hoffa's ankle injury has him sidelined for the rest of the season...
Not good news at all.. Hope he has a speedy recovery..

[The Dunster]

According to the club, Hoffa's ankle injury has him sidelined for the rest of the season...
Not good news at all.. Hope he has a speedy recovery..

Terrible news.

[StannyCFCJET]

Christ we better not sign Appiah. Just promote a young player ffs

[Frodo]

Christ we better not sign Appiah. Just promote a young player ffs

Which one?
I'll take Kwesi but not fussed on Kwabena, Stephen has retired so we'll probably go for him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Which one?
I'll take Kwesi but not fussed on Kwabena, Stephen has retired so we'll probably go for him.

Isn't it the one who used to be at the Mariners and WSW

[StannyCFCJET]

Which one?
I'll take Kwesi but not fussed on Kwabena, Stephen has retired so we'll probably go for him.

Its Kwabena

[380]

Christ we better not sign Appiah. Just promote a young player ffs

This x 1000. To this day i will never know how he got a gig o/seas. Benevolent FC was it ?.

[Jeterpool]

Look at Brymora ahead of Appiah

[StannyCFCJET]

Look at Brymora ahead of Appiah

This soo much

[Bajar]

Appiah is quick. If he can lob in crosses then maybe we could sc.... oh wait, never mind.

[380]

Appiah is quick. If he can lob in crosses then maybe we could sc.... oh wait, never mind.

Thing is he can't deliver a decent cross to save himself has a non existent assist stat and took him years from memory of first team football in the A League after many bombed chances to get his first goal.

He must be paying us. Martins new business plan for the Jets, Fund it like a academy. Tell a player he has has something and potential and fleece him for all his worth to be in the squad. No other explanation for considering this bloke.

[turbojetfireV8]

According to the club, Hoffa's ankle injury has him sidelined for the rest of the season...
Not good news at all.. Hope he has a speedy recovery..

NBN report
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstrain140219.mp4

[The Hacker]

I hope the chatter about Georgievski to the new Melb team isn't true. He puts in 110% for the shirt I think we can't afford to lose him. He has some games that are a bit how's ya father but I'll take his passion ever day of the week

[StannyCFCJET]

I hope the chatter about Georgievski to the new Melb team isn't true. He puts in 110% for the shirt I think we can't afford to lose him. He has some games that are a bit how's ya father but I'll take his passion ever day of the week

Reckon he might be on big coin and we have bigger issues in the squad then full back

[The Hacker]

Reckon he might be on big coin and we have bigger issues in the squad then full back

Agree but least he's never dialed a game in the shirt like some of the players on big coin

[Frodo]

I hope the chatter about Georgievski to the new Melb team isn't true. He puts in 110% for the shirt I think we can't afford to lose him. He has some games that are a bit how's ya father but I'll take his passion ever day of the week

Offload George and have Johnny K, Hoffman Cowburn and Miller as RB options. Makes sense to me.

[380]

Nothing against George but having a reasonable chunk of cap space being used on a fullback spot is just stupid in a salary capped league.

[turbojetfireV8]

allowing new franchises to fleece us of our best players is how we ended up so shit for years... I'd rather we kept hold of someone with Georgievski's passion, it can spark the others when he gets going

[StannyCFCJET]

Offload George and have Johnny K, Hoffman Cowburn and Miller as RB options. Makes sense to me.

Cowby wont be playing FB under Ernie. And we may even resign Ivan

[Jeterpool]

There's lots of valid arguments for keeping or releasing Georgie. He certainly appears to be a nucleus of squad bonding, getting along with everyone. That can't be underestimated.

The salary capped league argument is also valid. If he is taking up a fair chunk of the cap, is that the best space to spend it. Lots of teams get by without having a dedicated left back - Victory won the league without a left back. However, we've got a decent left back, which is something of a commodity. Why would we let that go?

My sense if this wasn't a salary capped league, we'd look to keep DG. However, we aren't and I think as a result we will see him move on. I'd still like to keep him - it's head vs heart stuff.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night on the win

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetscity160219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN team prep
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjapan180219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetskashima200219.mp4

[Couscous]

Turbo, I'm really confused about why you post all your news updates (which are appreciated) in the squad thread. There is a news thread.

[pv4]

Good work on posting the relevant articles in the relevant threads turbz, keep up the good work pal

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN - the boys are back
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie210219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, new sponsor, Johnny and Ronny's injuries
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/aleague220219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Posting this here as this is a sticky thread and 2019 news isn't...

NBN Adelaide wrap-up
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvadelaide250219.mp4

[The Hacker]

Anyone surprised Topor gets a 2 yr extension at 34

[Mark325]

Anyone surprised Topor gets a 2 yr extension at 34

Based on how sturdy at the back he's been im not mad about an extension, but 2 years at his age is a laugh

the thought of having Boogs & Topor as our CB's for 2 more seasons is surely some kind of joke

[turbojetfireV8]

don't mind keeping Topor on, rather than having him poached by the new Melb club - our younger FBs would do better to model their game on him rather than Boogs... :popcorn:

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5922916/a-league-defenders-staying-power-rewarded-with-two-year-extension/


"His performances speak for themselves," Jets football operations manager Joel Griffiths said. "For a defender he is very quick and is holding his pace really well. Some players can just do it and some struggle as they get older."

Wow, reference to Boogs there... :rof:

[pv4]

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5922916/a-league-defenders-staying-power-rewarded-with-two-year-extension/



Wow, reference to Boogs there... :rof:

I read this part as way more of a reference to Boogs:


During his 56 games, the centreback has only received six yellow cards.

"That is when you know someone is a good defender," Griffiths said. "He doesn't slide in or make silly tackles because he is disciplined to be in the right place at the right time."

[MFKS]

I read this part as way more of a reference to Boogs:

How good was Boogaards effort Sunday when Goodwin smashed it into the cross bar though

Dives in 35 yards out and gets neither ball nor man

Blokes standards have slipped


Least Kanta showed him how it is done in the 2nd half when he got carded

[Jetmaster]

Topor wants to finish his career here...no problem with tying him in as he has earned it. He can groom his successor and then possibly move into Team Griff.

[The Hacker]

Topor wants to finish his career here...no problem with tying him in as he has earned it. He can groom his successor and then possibly move into Team Griff.

Me either but go year by year. When you lose things like your speed you lose it quickly. Hope he doesn't lose it part way through season 1 of the deal then we carry a bloke

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Moss extension
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmoss260219.mp4

Photo gallery from Adelaide match
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/02/26/2019-newcastle-jets-v-adelaide-united-photo-gallery/

[Couscous]

George Pell no longer a viable transfer target for January.

Confirmed.

[plague]

Confirmed.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/H4zeDO4ocDYqY/200.webp?cid=3640f6095c7514b54f535158731b030d

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN - Jair wants to stay
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjair270219.mp4

[MFKS]

NBN - Jair wants to stay
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjair270219.mp4

Probably because he knows no other **** would be stupid to pay him like we have

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight - missing commentary (inc Johhny back from injury etc)
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetszane010319.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsbeatvictory030319.mp4

[Mark325]

So we’ve officially signed topor for 2 seasons, not opposed to the signing but 2 seasons might be a bit much at his age.

[turbojetfireV8]

I actually think based on his current form this is not a bad thing, he will be able to mentor his successors and hopefully they can keep him on in an administrative role when he does hang up the boots, plus he wouldn't be the only defender in the league to reach mid-thirties before retiring and still be a decent player.

[Tommyjet]

Yeah I don't mind 1 of either topor or boogs doing a 'durante' but not keen on both. Also prefer it was just topors

[plague]

So we’ve officially signed topor for 2 seasons, not opposed to the signing but 2 seasons might be a bit much at his age.

Yeah the club had pretty much bugger all leverage here.

Would back his ability to get through 2 more years at his level than most other available options.

Love Topor, proper Newy boy.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN had a Topor story tonight but not on their website at the moment, so here's a similar version off the Jets' FB page for anyone who doesn't follow FB:

https://www.facebook.com/newcastlejetsfc/videos/984169011777182/

Herald Half-Time off FB:

https://www.facebook.com/newcastleherald/videos/2021597174807750/

[Jeterpool]

We've signed Kwabena Appiah for the remainder of the season.

[The Dunster]

We've signed Kwabena Appiah for the remainder of the season.

https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/live/a-league-and-australian-football-news-live-newcastle-jets/59wmcq4p1ylp1xprwukhamzc4

How the hell did he ever get signed by a K1 club like Incheon ?

He rarely scores goals [ 3 goals in 104 appearances] Wellington got nothing out of him and let him go, Gypos had him for two seasons where he did nothing - then ends up playing in the K League for one of their biggest clubs.

Blokes manager must be an absolute genius. He's state league standard not A-league.

[MFKS]

https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/live/a-league-and-australian-football-news-live-newcastle-jets/59wmcq4p1ylp1xprwukhamzc4

How the hell did he ever get signed by a K1 club like Incheon ?

He rarely scores goals [ 3 goals in 104 appearances] Wellington got nothing out of him and let him go, Gypos had him for two seasons where he did nothing - then ends up playing in the K League for one of their biggest clubs.

Blokes manager must be an absolute genius. He's state league standard not A-league.

Pretty much sums up the failure of the HAL when this bloke is on his 4th club

Exactly why isnt Youth given a go??

[plague]

actually a good one for your podcast lads (apart from the Plague Chronicles ep1-94), is in a few years when hes done playing, or at least done with caring what people thing, but you should get Kale Bradbury on a get him to explain why he was never given shot.

apart from keeping the Member happy, it would be interesting to hear the reasons why he continually got overlooked, and how he handled it.
it might be his fault, it might be coaches, it might be something else. but it might give a good insight into why the Jets youth system has pretty much been a failure so far.

[StannyCFCJET]

actually a good one for your podcast lads (apart from the Plague Chronicles ep1-94), is in a few years when hes done playing, or at least done with caring what people thing, but you should get Kale Bradbury on a get him to explain why he was never given shot.

apart from keeping the Member happy, it would be interesting to hear the reasons why he continually got overlooked, and how he handled it.
it might be his fault, it might be coaches, it might be something else. but it might give a good insight into why the Jets youth system has pretty much been a failure so far.

That would be fantastic

[Jeterpool]

actually a good one for your podcast lads (apart from the Plague Chronicles ep1-94), is in a few years when hes done playing, or at least done with caring what people thing, but you should get Kale Bradbury on a get him to explain why he was never given shot.

apart from keeping the Member happy, it would be interesting to hear the reasons why he continually got overlooked, and how he handled it.
it might be his fault, it might be coaches, it might be something else. but it might give a good insight into why the Jets youth system has pretty much been a failure so far.

No problem. Will see how I can get a link to him.

[turbojetfireV8]

We've signed Kwabena Appiah for the remainder of the season.

NBN:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsappiah080319.mp4

[Tommyjet]

Andrew hoole=the gift that keeps on giving

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN RAAF round
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsraaf110319.mp4

[plague]

i like the RAAF kit.
get the game on already ****ern. fired up.

[turbojetfireV8]

FB Herald Half-Time
https://www.facebook.com/newcastleherald/videos/2200451300270887/

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Ernie awaits the panel's verdict
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie130319.mp4

[Jetmaster]

George on the way out?

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/off-contract-georgievski-ready-to-swap-jets-for-wanderers

[The Dunster]

George on the way out?

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/off-contract-georgievski-ready-to-swap-jets-for-wanderers

Club probably offered George peanuts so they could pay Boogs, Jackson, and a host of other state league players more than they are worth.

Love Georgevski - hate the Jets.

[StannyCFCJET]

Georgie is good but he will be 32 next year and already struggles to track back. Happy for Millar to take his spot

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on loss to the scum
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmariners170319.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

perhaps the hardest bit about losing George is that he isn't being poached by the new franchise, instead he's going to wankerers, that's a step down even from us...

[Jeterpool]

Players Remaining off Contract for next season:

Nick Cowburn
Daniel Georgievski
Roy O'Donovan
Ronald Vargas
Jair Eduardo
Lewis Italiano
Kosta Petratos
Jake Adelson
Patrick Langlois
Kwabena Appiah-Kubi

At the moment I'm keeping Cowburn only. I'm on the fence with Roy because I don't know what we can get that's better - would like us to have a look in Asia. But where do you find a 1 in 2 striker?

One thing is for certain - we need some pace and guile out wide if we're going to keep playing the way we are. However, I get a sense we are moving to 3 at the back next year.

[plague]

Players Remaining off Contract for next season:

Nick Cowburn
Daniel Georgievski
Roy O'Donovan
Ronald Vargas
Jair Eduardo
Lewis Italiano
Kosta Petratos
Jake Adelson
Patrick Langlois
Kwabena Appiah-Kubi

At the moment I'm keeping Cowburn only. I'm on the fence with Roy because I don't know what we can get that's better - would like us to have a look in Asia. But where do you find a 1 in 2 striker?

One thing is for certain - we need some pace and guile out wide if we're going to keep playing the way we are. However, I get a sense we are moving to 3 at the back next year.

the biggest let down for me signing Boogaard (who ive heard is a fantastic bloke BTW) and letting George walk. Doesnt George want to be a CB anyway? why not have him and Topor back there and let Ivan, Johnny K, Jackson, Hoff etc play the role out wide?

[StannyCFCJET]

We have Jackson who is good for CB. Oh and Roy is not a 1 in 2 anymore

[plague]

Oh and Roy is not a 1 in 2 anymore

Leads the league in "thumbs up for a through ball" though. Thats gotta count for something right?

[Jeterpool]

We have Jackson who is good for CB. Oh and Roy is not a 1 in 2 anymore

Statistically he still is (goal every 1.88 games for us/ goal every 152 minutes), but I think that paints over what I perceive to be that he "doesn't pass the eye test" - i.e. looks good on paper but not so good in reality.

I'm also sick of hearing from Ernie how good this guy is in training. I don't care! I wan't him to deliver that on game day otherwise i'd be sitting on the hill at the uni watching him slot home zero pressure shots.

[Frodo]

As far as I'm concerned we now have the worst defence in the league. George was the only one who could do anything useful anymore.

Topor and Boogs are getting schooled by everyone and are just getting in some lucky blocks. Jackson can't play or defend or pass well. Johnny K isn't a great defender. Great bloke, should move into CM and learn that position better. Hoffman is now a striker according to Ernie. Millar is a winger.

We are not doing shit next year with these guys in defence. We need put it out early that Topor and Boogs are moving on and spend all our money on 2 new CBs.

[StannyCFCJET]

Statistically he still is (goal every 1.88 games for us/ goal every 152 minutes), but I think that paints over what I perceive to be that he "doesn't pass the eye test" - i.e. looks good on paper but not so good in reality.

I'm also sick of hearing from Ernie how good this guy is in training. I don't care! I wan't him to deliver that on game day otherwise i'd be sitting on the hill at the uni watching him slot home zero pressure shots.

Ernie has done that for a few players this season. I'd be happy to never see Dimi get another free kick

[The Dunster]

Seriously who is Millar ? Not that bloke from the Mariners I hope ? FMD more proof the clubs broke.

[The Dunster]

Leads the league in "thumbs up for a through ball" though. Thats gotta count for something right?

How many "Evades" ?

[Jeterpool]

How many "Evades" ?

He evaded the ball at least 2 or 3 times last weekend

[mic22]

Ernie has done that for a few players this season. I'd be happy to never see Dimi get another free kick

Anyone noticed Jair trying to convince Dimi to let him have a go for a free kick just outside the box in the first half?

[StannyCFCJET]

Anyone noticed Jair trying to convince Dimi to let him have a go for a free kick just outside the box in the first half?

Np I didnt but Cowburn should take em when ever he plays

[Mark325]

of the lot off contract i'd be okay with keeping Jair, Cowburn & Italiano but not overly concerned if we do or don't

I think it's a shame that we've resigned Boogard & Jackson, im okay with Topor staying but i would have liked to see us look for some new faces in that area

Wellington tend to play Krishna in a 4-4-2 and match him with Williams, if we signed him would people rather he play as a winger or striker?

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN - is Ernie a doppelganger for Captain Obvious?
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmonday180319.mp4

[evolution]

Not that I trust the 14 year olds that run the "Newcastle Jets Supporters" page to come up with actual news, but saw something on there this morning that Millar might be staying at the gypos due to some loophole?

Wouldn't surprise me, if any club could scam a system it would be them.

[Couscous]

Wouldn't surprise me, if any club could scam a system it would be Sydney FC.

⬆️

[plague]

Not that I trust the 14 year olds that run the "Newcastle Jets Supporters" page to come up with actual news, but saw something on there this morning that Millar might be staying at the gypos due to some loophole?

Wouldn't surprise me, if any club could scam a system it would be them.

prob cause he realised there are more gypos at the Jets than there are in Gosford these days.

[Bon]

Italiano has re-signed until the end of 19/20 season..

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Sugar on Pohang's radar?
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsthursday210319.mp4

[MFKS]

Italiano has re-signed until the end of 19/20 season..

So let me get this right??

We will probably finish 7th

Our players have over the season shown we are not good enough etc

So instead of rectifying our short comings Lord Gypo and Merrick the failed coach who should be fired for losing to an NPL side last Saturday seem to think that next year we will be successful by

1 Signing a ****ing Gypo
2 Re Signing all our players who are currently not ****ing good enough

???

Just so we are clear

Do I have this right??

[StannyCFCJET]

If Ugar leaves we wont win another game this season and not many next season. He is the heartbeat of this side

[MFKS]

If Ugar leaves we wont win another game this season and not many next season. He is the heartbeat of this side

He cant play without Kantarovski

[Frodo]

If Ugar leaves we wont win another game this season and not many next season. He is the heartbeat of this side

Well he has us 7th and losing to a bunch of NPL rejects so if he is the heartbeat, we might need a transplant.

Seriously, well done to him, we should wish all our players can earn a move to a better league. [Especially our defenders, someone please take them so we can improve our rubbish backline]

[plague]

NBN Sugar on Pohang's radar?
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsthursday210319.mp4

Anything less than a $35million transfer fee will be a joke.

[pv4]

Anything less than a $35million transfer fee will be a joke.

Agreed. Allow me to subscribe to your podcast.

[StannyCFCJET]

Well he has us 7th and losing to a bunch of NPL rejects so if he is the heartbeat, we might need a transplant.

Seriously, well done to him, we should wish all our players can earn a move to a better league. [Especially our defenders, someone please take them so we can improve our rubbish backline]
How many times have we won when Ugar wasnt playing or played but didnt play well?

[plague]

How many times have we won when Ugar wasnt playing or played but didnt play well?

Step aside Mr Jeterpool, I've got this.

The answer is never.

We only win when Ugaboogaman plays well, and more importantly when the other 10 dopes on the team get near his level.

Plus scored the winner in the derby. Anyone wanting him to leave is a gypo.

[plague]

Agreed. Allow me to subscribe to your podcast.

You people are generally only capable of digesting 3 or 4 sentences at a time from me.

Giving me 40mins or so to learn you some things would prob be way too much.

[StannyCFCJET]

Step aside Mr Jeterpool, I've got this.

The answer is never.

We only win when Ugaboogaman plays well, and more importantly when the other 10 dopes on the team get near his level.

Plus scored the winner in the derby. Anyone wanting him to leave is a gypo.

My thoughts exactly

[Jetmaster]

Easily pushed off the ball, gets frustrated when passes aren't landing, can't shoot, needs his bodyguard Kanta to function.

Good not great.....looks like they prefer Brillante anyway.

Call me a Gypo....who he hooked against last week for being poo.

[StannyCFCJET]

Easily pushed off the ball, gets frustrated when passes aren't landing, can't shoot, needs his bodyguard Kanta to function.

Good not great.....looks like they prefer Brillante anyway.

Call me a Gypo....who he hooked against last week for being poo.

and we didnt win which further proves the point. Ugar on song and we hardly lose. Ugar off form and we suck

[MFKS]

and we didnt win which further proves the point. Ugar on song and we hardly lose. Ugar off form and we suck

So being we are the Jets and we dont win much it is then safe to say he is perpetually shit then

Thanks for playing

[Mark325]

If they’re also chasing brillante I’d imagine they’ll grab him instead of ugar

[plague]

Thanks for playing

listen my brother you know i love your work and all that you stand for however loud wrong you are.


but theres no bigger douche move on the interwebs than saying "thanks for playing".

it literally is the worst you can do.

Just letting you know because i care.


Cheers,
Plague.

[The Dunster]

NBN Sugar on Pohang's radar?
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsthursday210319.mp4

I think Sugar is being Catfished.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/WEBjetsmerrick2503.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN another baby girl for Boogs
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsnigel270319.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN interview audio only
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmoss280319.mp4

[belchardo]

So we're starting next season with an entire new 23 yeah?

[Tommyjet]

David Williams is soon to be free agent

[Jeterpool]

On to next season now. Start playing those who will be here ahead of those that will not :P

I reckon that's why we returned to 3 at the back in the second half - that's the future for us next season.

[StannyCFCJET]

On to next season now. Start playing those who will be here ahead of those that will not :P

I reckon that's why we returned to 3 at the back in the second half - that's the future for us next season.

If that's the case were next season is a right off already

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on loss
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvphoenix310319.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Jets no chance for playoffs, end of season departures etc
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstraining020419.mp4

[StannyCFCJET]

NBN Jets no chance for playoffs, end of season departures etc
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstraining020419.mp4

How is the club looking at Vargas, FFS back to mediocrity again

[Tommyjet]

Boy would I like to see Merrick take the blinkers off and not look solely at South Americans

[The Dunster]

Boy would I like to see Merrick take the blinkers off and not look solely at South Americans

I doubt the money is even available to look beyond the state leagues or players other A-league clubs have rejected.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Sounds like we're about to re-sign O'carovan on an extension.................

[Bon]

Sounds like we're about to re-sign O'carovan on an extension.................

I don't have a problem with it, so long as its not for excessive coin..
I'm more worried about who we put with or around him

[turbojetfireV8]

missed this yesterday, NBN interview audio only
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsroy050419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on win
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetswsw070419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on Perth match
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmerrick090619.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Kanta going to give Castro too much respect??
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetswednesday100419.mp4

Jets v Wankerers photo gallery
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/04/10/jets-v-wanderers-photo-gallery/

[StannyCFCJET]

All the talk on Roy brings up a good point and it's made me change my tune. Does anyone else in this squad look capable of close to 10 goals a season and do we trust the club to bring in someone who can do this consistently. Sadly my answer to both is no and I've realised Roy must stay unless this changes.

[380]

Roy's issue is his conversion rate from genuine chances. I know the Facebook warriors want to cite his goals to games stat but the real stat that matters is his conversion rate from genuine chances afforded to him and that has been very poor this season.If we go into next season with Roy as our first choice striker we are aspiring to once again a repeat of this season, mediocrity.

Fold the club if the excuse for not finding a replacement is " its all too difficult ".

[Tommyjet]

All the talk on Roy brings up a good point and it's made me change my tune. Does anyone else in this squad look capable of close to 10 goals a season and do we trust the club to bring in someone who can do this consistently. Sadly my answer to both is no and I've realised Roy must stay unless this changes.

I would be ok with him re-signing as long as there are more options. I want 3-4 players fighting it out for the 9 spot and the flexibility to play 2 up top. Either find a Aussie striker (needle/haystack scenario) or use jairs spot to sign a younger more all-round version of Roy.

[StannyCFCJET]

Roy's issue is his conversion rate from genuine chances. I know the Facebook warriors want to cite his goals to games stat but the real stat that matters is his conversion rate from genuine chances afforded to him and that has been very poor this season.If we go into next season with Roy as our first choice striker we are aspiring to once again a repeat of this season, mediocrity.

Fold the club if the excuse for not finding a replacement is " its all too difficult ".

Yeah that's true but he is the only goal scorer in the squad

[pv4]

I know the Facebook warriors want to cite his goals to games stat but the real stat that matters is his conversion rate from genuine chances afforded to him and that has been very poor this season.

The year Taggz won golden boot for us, he scored like 1 in 10 chances. And we adored him for it.

The only stat that matters is goals, and Roy has a phenomenal amount for the time he spends actually on the field for us. And like others have said, I struggle to predict we get someone with a better conversion rate.

Plus I don't see Roy any less functional this season than most others in the squad either. It's not an isolated problem.

[Jeterpool]

Roy's issue is his conversion rate from genuine chances. I know the Facebook warriors want to cite his goals to games stat but the real stat that matters is his conversion rate from genuine chances afforded to him and that has been very poor this season.If we go into next season with Roy as our first choice striker we are aspiring to once again a repeat of this season, mediocrity.

Fold the club if the excuse for not finding a replacement is " its all too difficult ".

I'm not a facebook warrior but I've been spruiking his stats to provide some points for discussion.

For what it's worth, he played 16 matches last season and 16 matches this season (to date).

17/18 he took 43 shots, 20 were on target and 9 were goals. 2 of those were penalties. That's a 47% on target rate, 21% conversion from all shots.

18/19 he has taken 55 shots, 19 have been on target and he's scored 9 goals. 1 was a penalty. That's 35% on target, 16% conversion from all shots.

And before I'm asked, I don't have the data for the likes of Toivonen, Barbarouses, LeFondre, Keogh but I'd be interested to compare when I have time (or if anyone wants to look it up on A-League website).

[Tommyjet]

Our goal scoring problems aren't just confined to Roy.
We should be getting more out of ugarkovic or whoever plays that 'box to box' role.
We should be getting more from set pieces.
We should be getting a lot more from our wide strikers.

[plague]

Roy has a phenomenal amount for the time he spends actually on the field for us.

you realise a big part of the reason when he 'isnt' on the field is due to his own shitheadedness right?

[plague]

All the talk on Roy brings up a good point and it's made me change my tune. Does anyone else in this squad look capable of close to 10 goals a season and do we trust the club to bring in someone who can do this consistently. Sadly my answer to both is no and I've realised Roy must stay unless this changes.

Last year Hoff got 6, Roy got 9, Dimi got 10 and Nabbout got 10 (i think).

so yeah, id trust that if the whole team gets back to playing well, we'll have many many.......ok maybe 2 players able to get into double figures.
Dimi back to his best, Joey with a full season, Hoff back, Thurgate with extended playing time.


sure, why not.


FWIW, i dont think Roy is hopeless. At the moment I dont think he is value for money based on his playing time, which is mostly due to his (lack of) discipline.

whats his conversion rate like when hes sitting in the stands?

[380]

If those stats were graphed JP they would be trending south right ?.

[Jeterpool]

If those stats were graphed JP they would be trending south right ?.

Is that meant to be a dig?

[380]

Absolutely not. No dig at all. Not sure how you come to the inclination i was having a dig.

All those stats you quoted are south of where he was the previous season not north to indicate improvement or status quo to indicate on par with last season, That was my point nothing more nothing less.If one was doing a performance presentation it does go south. Throw in the sitters he missed and i see no reason to keep him. Offering him a deal for next season makes a statement about our ambition for next season unfortunately a bad one. A club with serious ambition to improve on the previous season would not go into the next with the same striker IMO.

Please accept my apologies if you thought i was having a dig, That was certainly not the intention at any point in time.

[StannyCFCJET]

Absolutely not. No dig at all. Not sure how you come to the inclination i was having a dig.

All those stats you quoted are south of where he was the previous season not north to indicate improvement or status quo to indicate on par with last season, That was my point nothing more nothing less.If one was doing a performance presentation it does go south. Throw in the sitters he missed and i see no reason to keep him. Offering him a deal for next season makes a statement about our ambition for next season unfortunately a bad one. A club with serious ambition to improve on the previous season would not go into the next with the same striker IMO.

Please accept my apologies if you thought i was having a dig, That was certainly not the intention at any point in time.

But that's the issue? Would you trust the club to get someone better and a full season Roy would be close to 15 goals I reckon

[380]

But that's the issue? Would you trust the club to get someone better and a full season Roy would be close to 15 goals I reckon


You are correct i personally do not have faith in this clubs ability to recruit an adequate replacement hence why about a week ago i said those charged with the responsibility off the field with that job description need to move on also if they can no longer add value in doing that job properly. There are plenty including myself who continually call for Gallops head for a just cruising mentality and accepting the same outcome season after season, why should our club be the same where middle of the road is a pass mark. Signing and accepting average is exactly why where we are as a club.

[Jeterpool]

Absolutely not. No dig at all. Not sure how you come to the inclination i was having a dig.

All those stats you quoted are south of where he was the previous season not north to indicate improvement or status quo to indicate on par with last season, That was my point nothing more nothing less.If one was doing a performance presentation it does go south. Throw in the sitters he missed and i see no reason to keep him. Offering him a deal for next season makes a statement about our ambition for next season unfortunately a bad one. A club with serious ambition to improve on the previous season would not go into the next with the same striker IMO.

Please accept my apologies if you thought i was having a dig, That was certainly not the intention at any point in time.

No problem. Thanks for clarifying. :thumbsup:

[turbojetfireV8]

Interview audio only
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsugarkovic110419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

in Roy's defence, I'd take him over Riera any day... :rof:

[furns]

in Roy's defence, I'd take him over Riera any day... :rof:
I'd score more goals in this team than Riera :lol:

[plague]

a full season Roy would be close to 15 goals I reckon

A full season from Roy is probably 27 games too but there's no real evidence we'll get that either.

[380]

I am better than Riera and Piavaccari put together and i am knocking on the door of half a century in age.

[Jeterpool]

I am better than Riera and Piavaccari put together and i am knocking on the door of half a century in age.

There's a name I'd forgotten. Wow...wasn't he bad!

[MFKS]

Roy's issue is his conversion rate from genuine chances. I know the Facebook warriors want to cite his goals to games stat but the real stat that matters is his conversion rate from genuine chances afforded to him and that has been very poor this season.If we go into next season with Roy as our first choice striker we are aspiring to once again a repeat of this season, mediocrity.

Fold the club if the excuse for not finding a replacement is " its all too difficult ".

Bang on

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN, audio missing
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/dimihaircut120419.mp4

[Frodo]

For anyone watching the Shithole Derby, that Giancarlo Gallifuoco in DM was quality. Plays as a CB or DM, can spray a forward pass very well and has a better touch than almost everyone on our team. He's only back as an injury replacement for them but I reckon we should start sniffing around him to bring him here.

[Grimario]

He was pretty honking at MV a few seasons back.

[Frodo]

He was pretty honking at MV a few seasons back.

True.

He's still only 25 yrs old, which suprised the heck out of me. It was only one game and I was very much being a couch coach. But he looked like he had a better touch than the other 3 CMs out there at the time. He has legs to get around the park, although he wasn't troubled defensively much as Corica had set up for a draw??? even though they effectively handed the toilet seat to Perth.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Perth wrap up
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsloseperth150419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie170419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Ernie goes with youth
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsthurgate180419.mp4

[Tommyjet]

We are chasing mcgree to return according to a SBS. As usual article heading is a bit misleading as we haven't made contact and it is just an article with quotes from lord Griff saying he is on the wishlist and how mcgree has been poorly used by city

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Johnny on his season
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetskoutroumbis190419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Brisbane Wimper wrap-up

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsroar210419.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN - no audio
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfolo220419.mp4

[Frodo]

Since Perth won the season is over now, can someone post the list of off contract players from all the other teams so we can start our yearly ritual of playing football manager on here and arguing over "signing the unwanted players who can improve" versus "**** the salary cap, sign Bobo, Brilliante, Ronaldo and Messi!!"

Probably needs its own thread to capture all the shit talk in one easy to clean location.

[Jeterpool]

Since Perth won the season is over now, can someone post the list of off contract players from all the other teams so we can start our yearly ritual of playing football manager on here and arguing over "signing the unwanted players who can improve" versus "**** the salary cap, sign Bobo, Brilliante, Ronaldo and Messi!!"

Probably needs its own thread to capture all the shit talk in one easy to clean location.

Fox normally do this but didn't this year...don't know why.

Probably have to piece it together at the end of the season when the "announcements" are made.

[belchardo]

there may be a lot of players that are contracted to the new team we don't know about.

[plague]

how about getting the Adelaide coach in?

[turbojetfireV8]

Ernie mentioned on nbn tonight we aren't chasing McGree (assume that means we aint spending money again...)

[mic22]

Vargas officially released.
also, Cowburn, Jair, Georgievski (big mistake here), Adelson, Appiah.

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/6088975/a-league-marquee-midfielder-among-six-players-to-depart-jets/?cs=7580

[Grimario]

DG was always moving on.

[Tommyjet]

I reckon Cowburn will find another contract in the league

[The Dunster]

Is Kosta Petratos on a Youth deal ? If not, he's got to go - regardless of the situation with Dimi.

[Jeterpool]

Kosta is signed for 1 more season

[Jeterpool]

I reckon Cowburn will find another contract in the league

I agree.

Seeing Simmons and Thurgate it makes sense someone had to move aside. In this case it's Cowby

[380]

I reckon Cowburn will find another contract in the league

With the comp expanding by a single team for each of the next two seasons it will probably be the case he may pick up a deal elsewhere.

[StannyCFCJET]

Cowby told he's not getting resigned and still does a promo for the club next day. Top lad. Got alot of love for him. Wish him well

[Mark325]

Cowburn will definitely find another club, he’s at bare minimum a league squaddie standard, probably a bit cheap and can play in a bunch of different position

[MFKS]

If he can find another gig elsewhere says plenty for the Shit standards in the HAL

Recycling other people's garbage has to stop

Give kids a go

This bloke has had his chance and wasn't good enough

Move on FFS

[380]

If he can find another gig elsewhere says plenty for the Shit standards in the HAL

Recycling other people's garbage has to stop

Give kids a go

This bloke has had his chance and wasn't good enough

Move on FFS

Kinda with you on this and what i was alluding to in my post. His saving grace in a safety first approach salary capped league is his A League experience. Ability wise i maintain he is a dime a dozen player on par with many " smarter than most types " running around in State League. Lets face it the current rubbish standard of the A League means most players on a clubs roster outside of the first 16 for arguments sake are that type of player Min wage bordering on average A League to looking smarter than most on a State League pitch.

Cowby's versatility and experience in the league make would him a safe choice for most clubs. Sadly it is that safety first approach most clubs take that deny plenty of others an opportunity.To the best of my knowledge he has had 4-5 seasons to establish himself and prove to others he should be regarded as a first 11 player as opposed to a squadie to fill a hole every now and then.

[Frodo]

If he can find another gig elsewhere says plenty for the Shit standards in the HAL

Recycling other people's garbage has to stop

Give kids a go

This bloke has had his chance and wasn't good enough

Move on FFS

"Give kids a chance"

He's 24 yrs old (3-4 yrs before prime) in a league with virtually no competent youth system.....

He is a kid.



This isn't Football Manager / FIFA where you can play a 17yr old for a few months, hit the training button a few times and they become world class.

What sort of pool of young players do you think we have in this country? Because I can burst your bubble very easily and inform you that we have no proper youth systems in place and therefore very little knowledge about young players anywhere. We rely on other countries finding our youth and taking it early or, late bloomers like Mooy/Ryan/Degenek to move overseas and improve.

Cowburn is fine to be moved on if we have others coming through, but screw your recycled player bullshit on this one Member.

[plague]

"Give kids a chance"

He's 24 yrs old (3-4 yrs before prime) in a league with virtually no competent youth system.....

He is a kid.



This isn't Football Manager / FIFA where you can play a 17yr old for a few months, hit the training button a few times and they become world class.

What sort of pool of young players do you think we have in this country? Because I can burst your bubble very easily and inform you that we have no proper youth systems in place and therefore very little knowledge about young players anywhere. We rely on other countries finding our youth and taking it early or, late bloomers like Mooy/Ryan/Degenek to move overseas and improve.

Cowburn is fine to be moved on if we have others coming through, but screw your recycled player bullshit on this one Member.

pfffft, you have written this like a bloke who hasnt ever heard of Daniel Arzani, Danny De Silva or Daniel Arzani.

[plague]

"Give kids a chance"

He's 24 yrs old (3-4 yrs before prime) in a league with virtually no competent youth system.....

He is a kid.


not sure if anyone saw it but after the United/City game yesterday the 'experts' were saying that young players like Lingard need to learn from older players like Pogba.

they are both the same age.

[The Dunster]

I thought this season Cowburn played some very good football. Delivered some wonderful free kicks / passes as well with very limited opportunities [He kicks better corners than Dimi].
He's far too good for state league gigs but in that Virgili type vortex of not quite being able to make a name for himself at A-League level.
Would I keep him at the Jets ? No. But I think at another club with more opportunities for him he just might surprise a few people.

[Jeterpool]

I thought this season Cowburn played some very good football. Delivered some wonderful free kicks / passes as well with very limited opportunities [He kicks better corners than Dimi].
He's far too good for state league gigs but in that Virgili type vortex of not quite being able to make a name for himself at A-League level.
Would I keep him at the Jets ? No. But I think at another club with more opportunities for him he just might surprise a few people.

I could see Cowburn picking up a role at the Roar or Western United.

[plague]

are we all sure hes not good enough cause ill be darned if ive seen him get any sort of opportunites this year.

and its not like Old Ern has been excellent with his team selections this year.

[Macca]

I liked the little I saw of him in midfield this year to be honest. Seemed tidy on the ball and passed around well enough. Didn't create a lot of threat but I think could play the 6 role ok, especially in a team looking to control the ball.

[Jeterpool]

are we all sure hes not good enough cause ill be darned if ive seen him get any sort of opportunites this year.

and its not like Old Ern has been excellent with his team selections this year.

I think he's good enough to play in the league. His set pieces are his strength.

I think we have let him go because we have adequate numbers in that position (CM) and other prospects coming through that could block their progress.

Fair play to Nick that he wanted to play centrally, but I think had he kept playing as a fullback he'd still have a Jets contract.

[plague]

How long is Kanta contracted for? Id always seen Cowburn as that 'type' of player in the future.

[380]

I thought this season Cowburn played some very good football. Delivered some wonderful free kicks / passes as well with very limited opportunities [He kicks better corners than Dimi].
He's far too good for state league gigs but in that Virgili type vortex of not quite being able to make a name for himself at A-League level.
Would I keep him at the Jets ? No. But I think at another club with more opportunities for him he just might surprise a few people.

This is a good summary of Cowby. Getting away from the local boy home team and club mentality could very well be just what he needs to take that next step or see him back here at Magic.

[Aegon]

Vargas officially released.
also, Cowburn, Jair, Georgievski (big mistake here), Adelson, Appiah.

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/6088975/a-league-marquee-midfielder-among-six-players-to-depart-jets/?cs=7580

Interesting off season ahead.

The writing was on the wall for RV and Jair. I think we have players that are as good, if not better, in their preferred roles.

So if Roy re-signs, our currently signed players best 11 is something like the below:

GK - Moss
RB - Millar
CB - NTS/Boogs
LB - Vujica
CM - Sugar/Kanta
AM - Dimi
RW - Hoff
LW - JOWIC
ST - Roy

Fringe players

Italiano
James
Sheppard
Thurgate
Ridenton
Koutroumbis
Jackson
Simmons
Langlois
Kosta

Where should the Jets be targeting their marquee? And where else should we be looking at strengthening or adding depth?

Personally I would love to see us follow the NIX's lead from this season and sign an excellent GK and/or CB.

[Jeterpool]

How long is Kanta contracted for? Id always seen Cowburn as that 'type' of player in the future.

Kanta contracted for next season only.

[Jeterpool]

Interesting off season ahead.

The writing was on the wall for RV and Jair. I think we have players that are as good, if not better, in their preferred roles.

So if Roy re-signs, our currently signed players best 11 is something like the below:

GK - Moss
RB - Millar
CB - NTS/Boogs
LB - Vujica
CM - Sugar/Kanta
AM - Dimi
RW - Hoff
LW - JOWIC
ST - Roy

Fringe players

Italiano
James
Sheppard
Thurgate
Ridenton
Koutroumbis
Jackson
Simmons
Langlois
Kosta

Where should the Jets be targeting their marquee? And where else should we be looking at strengthening or adding depth?

Personally I would love to see us follow the NIX's lead from this season and sign an excellent GK and/or CB.

I would like to see us recruit 2 wide players and a striker.

[StannyCFCJET]

are we all sure hes not good enough cause ill be darned if ive seen him get any sort of opportunites this year.

and its not like Old Ern has been excellent with his team selections this year.

Agree to a extent

[The Dunster]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.

[Jetmaster]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.

Correct and I think that might start by not having any marquee at all next season.

[Grimario]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.

If that's the case, I don't understand the decision to lose Cowburn. Local, average, covers multiple positions. If the plan is to go budget, he's almost an ideal player to have.

The only player we can replace with a significantly cheaper player is the marquee (forgot we only had one)... we still have to spend to the salary floor, so unless we are going to get inferior players in at super inflated wages, the step down for everyone except Vargas isn't going to be huge.


Basically, what I am saying is that we may miss out on 7th next season.

[Frodo]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.


We are so getting Hoole back.

[StannyCFCJET]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.

Do you have insider knowledge?

[plague]

gonna be so good next year when old Ern is trying to teach a bunch of dudes he doesnt want a style of football they prob cant play.


When do we renew our season tix? so keen.

[Tommyjet]

Sign another striker and play 2 up front

[StannyCFCJET]

Sign another striker and play 2 up front

If we did this with Heskey from the start then we would've made finals guaranteed

[plague]

We are so getting Hoole back.

if so, will prob get a full spec corporate box next year.
wont want to miss a second of the action.


you blokes will be invited up of course.

[The Dunster]

Do you have insider knowledge?

Team went from 2nd on table and runner up in grand final to 7th and no finals.
Vargas Gone. No mention of any replacement.
Coach not performing - still here.
Georgevski gone - replaced by a budget Gypo.
Nabbout gone and not replaced with player of equal skill.
2nd String Chinese 2nd division player was all we could afford as a replacement for McGree / Nabbout.
No interest from club in Mcgree who is a proven player and absolutely no risk. [That screams we have no money]f
folded his Chinese 2nd Div team.
No longer naming sponsor for Portugues 2nd Div.
No Jets shaped hats for members.


What more proof do you need Stanny.

Edit: They are probably already shopping Champness around so they can cash in on him.

[Jeterpool]

You convinced me at jet shaped hats

[StannyCFCJET]

Team went from 2nd on table and runner up in grand final to 7th and no finals.
Vargas Gone. No mention of any replacement.
Coach not performing - still here.
Georgevski gone - replaced by a budget Gypo.
Nabbout gone and not replaced with player of equal skill.
2nd String Chinese 2nd division player was all we could afford as a replacement for McGree / Nabbout.
No interest from club in Mcgree who is a proven player and absolutely no risk. [That screams we have no money]f
folded his Chinese 2nd Div team.
No longer naming sponsor for Portugues 2nd Div.
No Jets shaped hats for members.


What more proof do you need Stanny.

Edit: They are probably already shopping Champness around so they can cash in on him.

I have the club wont let us return to our former shit self. Once I lose that belief then whats the point?

[380]

Anyone that thinks this season was bad can strap themselves in for an even bigger shit show next season.

The emphasis on recruitment is lowering costs and in every case that will mean replacing those leaving with cheaper / inferior players.

If that turns out to be the case then this club will burn through every gain it made particularly with the local football fraternity from turning the shit show around in 17/18. I said to my young bloke i have real concerns about just how invested club ownership will prove to be next season and for the first time i may very well wait til the eve of the new season to decide whether to take up membership again.

I just never quite got the short sightedness of this season and loathe in planning for the first 8 weeks. If this club had of been able to go deep into the finals for a second season in succession who knows what next seasons membership and overall general interest in the club would of and could have been and just how many dollars that could have been equated to through increased sponsorship and membership revenue.

Either incompetence or penny pinching robbed the club of the best opportunity it has had in 10 years to turn shit around make this club a club of choice. Somebody at the club needs to be accountable for not capitalizing on that. To go into next season with a squad assembled to just compete and not challenge would be an insult to supporters and the already signed sponsors for next season.

No way in this whole wide world should punters up here let the club get away with the type of shit show recruiting and financing the likes Charlseworth and Mielekamp do season after season.

[MFKS]

"Give kids a chance"

He's 24 yrs old (3-4 yrs before prime) in a league with virtually no competent youth system.....

He is a kid.



This isn't Football Manager / FIFA where you can play a 17yr old for a few months, hit the training button a few times and they become world class.

What sort of pool of young players do you think we have in this country? Because I can burst your bubble very easily and inform you that we have no proper youth systems in place and therefore very little knowledge about young players anywhere. We rely on other countries finding our youth and taking it early or, late bloomers like Mooy/Ryan/Degenek to move overseas and improve.

Cowburn is fine to be moved on if we have others coming through, but screw your recycled player bullshit on this one Member.

The reason we have no pool of young players is because of this BS philosophy of playing it safe with rejects

We have no relegation so why do we need to constantly recycle your Hooles Appiahs Cowburns etc after they have had their opportunities

Better off giving your Simmons Langlois Thurgates a go

You never know these kids might actually succeed if we give them the opportunity

[MFKS]

If that turns out to be the case then this club will burn through every gain it made particularly with the local football fraternity from turning the shit show around in 17/18. I said to my young bloke i have real concerns about just how invested club ownership will prove to be next season and for the first time i may very well wait til the eve of the new season to decide whether to take up membership again.

I just never quite got the short sightedness of this season and loathe in planning for the first 8 weeks. If this club had of been able to go deep into the finals for a second season in succession who knows what next seasons membership and overall general interest in the club would of and could have been and just how many dollars that could have been equated to through increased sponsorship and membership revenue.

Either incompetence or penny pinching robbed the club of the best opportunity it has had in 10 years to turn shit around make this club a club of choice. Somebody at the club needs to be accountable for not capitalizing on that. To go into next season with a squad assembled to just compete and not challenge would be an insult to supporters and the already signed sponsors for next season.

No way in this whole wide world should punters up here let the club get away with the type of shit show recruiting and financing the likes Charlseworth and Mielekamp do season after season.

The way the HAL is currently being run why should the Chinese Light Salesman pissing his money away on the Jets??

The comp is a ****ing joke at the moment

[380]

The way the HAL is currently being run why should the Chinese Light Salesman pissing his money away on the Jets??

The comp is a ****ing joke at the moment

I don't disagree with your summation on the running of the league. Gallop and co are clearly in it for there drive cars , inflated income and corporate cards.

If Gallop was fair dinkum he would have resigned long ago but the way the international schedule is he gets a free ride/junket to Asian Cups and World Cups every couple of years. I was fortunate enough to spend a week once with the CEO of the company i was working for. He had held similar roles for companies in the US and Europe for very familiar names in there respective industries and made it very clear in his opinion more often than not a CEO is a 4 year proposition. He considered this time frame long enough to appraise and then design and ultimately implement changes to reinvigorate or freshen up a organisation to sustain continued growth. He made a lot of a CEO being flexible to market changes and attitudes and not one new employee got away without reading a book called " who moved my cheese " I was skeptical at first but it is a great read for anybody charged with the responsibility of increasing revenues and growth by expansion, In any industry not just sport. Gallop and his hide behind Head of FFA Greg O Rourke could do well to read this book as opposed to this head in the sand everything is alright attitude we get from FFA season after season. And put simply Gallop has had long enough as a failing CEO. He has had his approx 4 years with no real measurable improvement to the game i can see.

[Jetmaster]

Flappashitti misses his chance tonight being injured. Joining the other choice offcuts at Geelong City apparently.

[plague]

I was fortunate enough to spend a week once with the CEO of the company i was working for. He had held similar roles for companies in the US and Europe for very familiar names in there respective industries and made it very clear in his opinion more often than not a CEO is a 4 year proposition.

yeah, i understand your resentment of Gallop and Co and aint here to defend them.



but


There is a lot than be wrong with this type of attitude as well. In the life of a business, 4 years is nothing. The amount of people who take these jobs knowing they are after another one in the short term tend to perform in a certain way that isnt conducive to the long term success and sustainability of the company.

The biggest change in the history of the A-league (letting clubs contro it) will be the true test, and thats gonna need Gallop to get out of the way.....which is a skill in itself for someone in his position.

[380]

Gallop is a real problem, He just turns up week after week season after season overseeing mediocrity measurable by just about any meaningful KPI yet there seems to be this reluctance from financial stakeholders ie owners to generate a necessary and much needed mood for change.

I read some viewing stats just recently , i think from from the weekend the Jets beat City at home with the under strength side and Fox sports viewing numbers were frighteningly bad across that entire weekend. If the game continues on its current trajectory funding from sponsorship and corporate partners will decline to a point where there may not be a HAL type comp to worry about.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight Boogs
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsboogs260419.mp4
Joey
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjoey240419.mp4

[Tommyjet]

Did I read it right that Lawrie is or has been in China visiting the boss and sorting out the budgets etc?
If so, comments upon his return will be very interesting.
One thing we can expect is the usual 'patience' theme that Lawrie and Ernie run with the last 2 offseasons. Therefore our 'major' signings will be signed late in the preseason again and again they will arrive 'not as fit as aniticipated' so they will take the usual 6-8weeks to get fit.

FFS we should already have our list of targets and budgets should be known. We need to have the whole squad fit and firing for Rd 1 next season, not this waiting until a few weeks out from the season to finalise the squad.