2019 National Premier League thread

[The Dunster]

which is gonna be a problem for a couple of non-NPL clubs who are embracing and doing really well with SAP.
With no NPL to aspire to, theres def gonna be one club who are gonna lose a lot of their SAP kids to NPL teams once they are available, and im not sure what the club can do about it (other than get into NPL by then but that aint happening).

You might want to check out Brighton Soccer Club in Victoria. They have always had very strong juniors since long before any of us were born - and yet not being in the top flight at seniors their talent has gone to South Melbourne, Melbourne Knights.. and other big clubs for as long as I can remember.

The NPL / VPL clubs might have the money and all but they also can have a factory mentality and kids can get left behind rather than given the time they need to develop.

[magician]

Predictions for this weekend?
Same Semi Finals as last yr.
Magic 1 Maitland 2
Edgy 2 Jaffas 2

[Benfica]

Josh Rufo new Lakes coach?

[Onyatoes]

Yep, a Jaffas youth coach was there...but not looking at any New Lambton players.
Your use of "poach" suggests you disagree with NPL clubs trying to identify and improve the local kids. Do you think it not right to identify talent and bring it to the next level? Many lower tier clubs are happy to push their stronger players up to the next level to improve for the benefit of the kids. Many are not and are keen to hang on to their better players for the benefit of their club. The NEWFM team I currently coach has had multiple visits from NPL clubs scouting. I welcome it and help if I can. If one of my players can go up to the next level, I'm pleased. It's about developing the players. Do you think NEWFM clubs aren't out looking at community A grade teams? Are they "poaching"? If you are suggesting it is inappropriate , then you are losing sight of the objective which is to produce better players.All the NPL clubs do it, and good on them! It would be disappointing if they didn't.
Well it would be progressive if they get better coaches and a better club experience but evidence shows kids from NL1 go up, with loads of promises, get chewed up and then come back $1500 poorer. Everyone knows that the local NPL is focussed on 3 teams at each club. Seniors 18s and up. I have seen NPL 13s and 14s forced to pay Regos in October so the retired A League "star" can be paid and after a year of minimal game time, they receive a pat on the back at a hastily convened presentation where they don't even get a trophy. Some of the "coaches" are just Dad's, transformed into Coaches resplendid in a fancy tracksuit but know as much about football as they do about marbles. Sure, little Johnny should go to a good club and play. But don't go and sit on a bench or get flicked at Year 2 as an ex Jet kid comes knocking. Or even worse, go to a club and get pumped week to week or even worse become disenchanted and leave the game.

[Hunter403]

Well it would be progressive if they get better coaches and a better club experience but evidence shows kids from NL1 go up, with loads of promises, get chewed up and then come back $1500 poorer. Everyone knows that the local NPL is focussed on 3 teams at each club. Seniors 18s and up. I have seen NPL 13s and 14s forced to pay Regos in October so the retired A League "star" can be paid and after a year of minimal game time, they receive a pat on the back at a hastily convened presentation where they don't even get a trophy. Some of the "coaches" are just Dad's, transformed into Coaches resplendid in a fancy tracksuit but know as much about football as they do about marbles. Sure, little Johnny should go to a good club and play. But don't go and sit on a bench or get flicked at Year 2 as an ex Jet kid comes knocking. Or even worse, go to a club and get pumped week to week or even worse become disenchanted and leave the game.

Kids go up and down depending on ability and development. I've seen NL1 kids go up and succeed and others fail. I've seen NPL kids fall by the wayside after a year or two, and some leap ahead an age group. I have also seen what you have described as a NL1 kid fails to step up to the next level (and it is a step up) but other have excelled. Kids go in and out of the Jets. That is football. Some develop late, some never fulfil the promise they showed. To say that the evidence shows kids from "NL1 go up, with loads of promises, get chewed up and then come back" is a very broad brush statement, and as I have seen, it is not always the case.
$1500: not at my sons's NPL club. I think that clubs could improve the understanding of parents by providing itemised accounts, but most don't.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to put a team on the park in NPL? Consider some of these costs:
Ground hire in season
Ground hire out of season (more expensive)
Referees fees
Player registration
insurance,
physio costs each week
clothing
electricity
equipment
strips

Having been on a NEWFM club committee I know that the cost there, without the club making a cent, exceeds $800. NPL is more expensive.

Paying rego in October to pay a an ex A league star. Not in my experience either.

I'd love to know what club you are referring to. I'm guessing that you had a bad experience there? You shouldn't assume what happened to you happens to all and at all clubs.

Minimal game time. Again, I can't speak for all clubs but can say that game time has been spread cross my son's team for 4 years. Everyone on that team got ample game time. Yep, some got more than others and it is usually the midfield players that sub off and on. A reflection of the fatigue levels in midfield rather than ability of the kids. The NPL coaches I know work on the premise that "I picked them so I will play them". Sure, some don't. If you are not satisfied, talk to the TD and if still not happy, get your money back and go elsewhere. Rego closes in June so there is ample time to change.

Coaches that are dads. To coach in NPL you must have a C licence. Dad or not, the coach must be qualified. It's my view that a father and son should not be with the same team. Some clubs agree with that and some don't. There are good coaches and bad coaches in the NPL. Whether or not they are a player's father is not the deciding factor. Also, some dad's are harder on their own kids than others. I think you are taking a very broad and unfair brush to this.

Club experience. I think the NEWFM clubs do it better than the NPL clubs. I agree that the focus is on the seniors and that some clubs could do far better. All I can suggest is get on the club committee and make them change. It can be done.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Onya,
I can attest to what Hunter has said.
Some clubs, not all.

I was an average player growing up, missed out on SYL trials, it was the year they canned Newcastle United/breakers youth trials. So all kids that had been promised a Position there dropped back.
Anyway. My clubs interdistrict (Zone league) equivalent gave me game time in seniors and got me a trial at an NPL/NBN club.
100% was just there to give them money. My old man was exactly the same as what you’re saying, no trophy, mediocre coach that didn’t seem to care, club committee treated any concerns or questions as well beneath them. From my perspective I enjoyed that extra professionalism and playing on top surfaces and I saw what the next step looks like.
In hindsight it’s clear they didn’t care at all about our development through.
Things happened that season and they were in NBN/NPL no more.

Their youth coach who had played me up a grade a few times throughout the year got me a trial at his new club where he was head coach.
Completely different experience.
I have nothing but excellent things to say about my experience, the committee support and encouragement of youth, the professionalism everything. The comraderie from first grade down to 19s and 17s and later lower ages was there, everyone supported everyone and strangely enough it felt like we were the shining lights from the club. This club had very good youth record at the time and by the end of my time there (work commitments) had played many finals and grand finals and have nothing but kind words to say about everyone involved (now not involved).

There are clubs that genuinely care. Don’t let one bad experience tarnish it.

[Aegon]

Predictions for this weekend?
Same Semi Finals as last yr.
Magic 1 Maitland 2
Edgy 2 Jaffas 2

Magic 3-2 Maitland
Edgy 1-2 Jaffas

[Goatscheese]

I'd love to know what club you are referring to. I'm guessing that you had a bad experience there? You shouldn't assume what happened to you happens to all and at all clubs.

I think it's well known that Charlestown has done this a few times in the past.

[Negative Police]

The Newcastle Herald was told new club membership applications at Charlestown fc, including about 70 from a group supporting coach David Tanchevski, were rejected at the meeting. The group behind Tanchevski was exploring ways to overturn the decision.

Memberships needed to be accepted at the meeting for those applicants to have voting rights at the September 17 AGM, where a new group hopes to lead the club and sack Tanchevski. It has sounded out at least three potential replacements. Charlestown secretary Roger Steel confirmed Crossley had then stepped aside.

Thats a fair stoush. geez

[Goatscheese]

Thats a fair stoush. geez

That's poor form, members have joined up for the committee to reject all membership because they don't want to give up their power is fascism at best.

[Texas Ranger]

That's poor form, members have joined up for the committee to reject all membership because they don't want to give up their power is fascism at best.
I'd be more concerned about the 70 just wanting to join as a voting block at the last minute. Sounds like a reasonable decision to stop their applications. It's a vote by members, not outsiders. I assume those on the committee had been there for a while and not joined purely on the basis of voting on one issue.
Accusations of fascism is not an argument but something the Left use to justify a lack of factual evidence.

[Alton]

Lets be serious, what does Tanch track record look like over the years, especially given he has spent in excess of $1.3 million of Jaffas/Azzurri money during his time.

[Goatscheese]

I'd be more concerned about the 70 just wanting to join as a voting block at the last minute. Sounds like a reasonable decision to stop their applications. It's a vote by members, not outsiders. I assume those on the committee had been there for a while and not joined purely on the basis of voting on one issue.
Accusations of fascism is not an argument but something the Left use to justify a lack of factual evidence.

You're assuming that these people are just randoms and not long term supporters and past members.

[MFKS]

Bizarre game at Edgy today

0-0 at HT

Jaffas go 1-0 up a few mins into second half
Probably shading it

Edgy not really doing that much
Cracking goal out of nowhere some calamitous defending and it 4-1 Edgy

Tie looks over despite Jaffas looking the better side for the first 60 mins

[YewYew]

Chris Gallagher is managing the Magic 1st team today. He’s a youth TD I think. Where is RZ???

[YewYew]

Magic tactics v. poor. Big boots into the box with a striker under 6ft.

[mervan]

Bizarre game at Edgy today

0-0 at HT

Jaffas go 1-0 up a few mins into second half
Probably shading it

Edgy not really doing that much
Cracking goal out of nowhere some calamitous defending and it 4-1 Edgy

Tie looks over despite Jaffas looking the better side for the first 60 mins

Time for the Jaffa’s to start spending

[Reds Forever]

Chris Gallagher is managing the Magic 1st team today. He’s a youth TD I think. Where is RZ???

RZ was in charge tonight.

[Hurricane]

Chris Gallagher is managing the Magic 1st team today. He’s a youth TD I think. Where is RZ???

What game were you watching Yew Yew. Watching the game on bartv and Zadkovich was on the sideline managing Broadmeadow ??

[Hurricane]

Time for the Jaffa’s to start spending
Heard the have already added Scott Pettit, Mitch Oxborrow and Alex Read for next season

[YewYew]

What game were you watching Yew Yew. Watching the game on bartv and Zadkovich was on the sideline managing Broadmeadow ??

Was watching bartv too and 1st half the commentators kept talking about chris gallagher needing to sort Magic out. Second half RZ appeared and chirs gallagher not mentioned anymore. Was RZ there for the whole game? Did he get to the game late? maybe the comms team were mistaken. The main comms bloke didn't get there until the end of the 1st half

[Football_Magic14]

Heard the have already added Scott Pettit, Mitch Oxborrow and Alex Read for next season

They losing anyone?

[Aegon]

Bizarre game at Edgy today

0-0 at HT

Jaffas go 1-0 up a few mins into second half
Probably shading it

Edgy not really doing that much
Cracking goal out of nowhere some calamitous defending and it 4-1 Edgy

Tie looks over despite Jaffas looking the better side for the first 60 mins

Exactly my take on the game. Although a bit harsh on the defenders. Jaffa’s may struggle next week with the amount on players they are without.

[YewYew]

Exactly my take on the game. Although a bit harsh on the defenders. Jaffa’s may struggle next week with the amount on players they are without.

Edgy best team in the comp, but so far behind the Jets it’s untrue. And Jets so far behind Sydney. And Sydney so far behind Japanese and Chinese teams. I’d love to see some investors come in and shake things up. Clubs in this area do their best, but they couldn’t even compete with NPL2 teams in Sydney. Need to shake up the whole thing.

[londonboy]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/why-npl-needs-to-fix-finals-flaws

An interesting article on NPL finals. I genuinely cannot get my head around the whole 'minor' premiers/grand final set-up. It makes absolutely no sense at all. A club could go the whole season unbeaten, come top of the league over 20 odd games and yet they are labelled 'minor' premiers (despite there being nothing 'minor' about besting all other clubs across the whole season). Another club, who may have come 4th and lost plenty across the season, hits a bit of form and wins a semi-final and final and are then labelled 'Premiers'. It's crazy.

I don't see why the two are not just separated. Whoever comes top of the league at the end of the season are the League Champions and should be celebrated accordingly. You then give the top-four finals teams (or top six if you want to add some interest) a separate trophy to play for (call it the NPL Cup or something) then let the winner of that have a different kind of glory.

You still get the cup final, the big final day etc, but the top team over the course of the season is rightfully celebrated as the best team in the competition. The team that wins the league and then goes onto win the cup can then celebrate a double.

No one remembers the 'minor' premiers, and everything seems geared towards the "grand final" which lessens the achievement of winning the league over the course of a whole season. I get this system is just mirroring the NRL and A-league, but some simple, subtle changes (basically just changing the language used and dropping the ridiculous "minor" and adding in another trophy) could really improve things.

[onlooker]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/why-npl-needs-to-fix-finals-flaws

An interesting article on NPL finals. I genuinely cannot get my head around the whole 'minor' premiers/grand final set-up. It makes absolutely no sense at all. A club could go the whole season unbeaten, come top of the league over 20 odd games and yet they are labelled 'minor' premiers (despite there being nothing 'minor' about besting all other clubs across the whole season). Another club, who may have come 4th and lost plenty across the season, hits a bit of form and wins a semi-final and final and are then labelled 'Premiers'. It's crazy.

I don't see why the two are not just separated. Whoever comes top of the league at the end of the season are the League Champions and should be celebrated accordingly. You then give the top-four finals teams (or top six if you want to add some interest) a separate trophy to play for (call it the NPL Cup or something) then let the winner of that have a different kind of glory.

You still get the cup final, the big final day etc, but the top team over the course of the season is rightfully celebrated as the best team in the competition. The team that wins the league and then goes onto win the cup can then celebrate a double.

No one remembers the 'minor' premiers, and everything seems geared towards the "grand final" which lessens the achievement of winning the league over the course of a whole season. I get this system is just mirroring the NRL and A-league, but some simple, subtle changes (basically just changing the language used and dropping the ridiculous "minor" and adding in another trophy) could really improve things.

Premiers and Grandfinal winners is what they are trying to call things now, some people are a bit slow on the uptake. We only have grand finals and a finals series in Australia because the seasons are usually shorter then what we would all like and as a bit of a money maker.. whilst it is always good to win a grandfinal and the party after can be brilliant, I always find myself more worried about planning for next season then what’s actually happening in the finals..

[Hurricane]

Edgy best team in the comp, but so far behind the Jets it’s untrue. And Jets so far behind Sydney. And Sydney so far behind Japanese and Chinese teams. I’d love to see some investors come in and shake things up. Clubs in this area do their best, but they couldn’t even compete with NPL2 teams in Sydney. Need to shake up the whole thing.

Then how come they ran 3rd

[londonboy]

Premiers and Grandfinal winners is what they are trying to call things now, some people are a bit slow on the uptake. We only have grand finals and a finals series in Australia because the seasons are usually shorter then what we would all like and as a bit of a money maker.. whilst it is always good to win a grandfinal and the party after can be brilliant, I always find myself more worried about planning for next season then what’s actually happening in the finals..

Premiers and grandfinal winners is a good start, but the problem is the two are still intrinsically linked, with the Premiers still looked at as ‘minor’ champs. A simple, clear separation of the two - with language making it clear Premiers are the best team in the league and the grand (cup) final is essentially another mini competition for the highest placed teams in the league - makes a massive difference.

[onlooker]

Premiers and grandfinal winners is a good start, but the problem is the two are still intrinsically linked, with the Premiers still looked at as ‘minor’ champs. A simple, clear separation of the two - with language making it clear Premiers are the best team in the league and the grand (cup) final is essentially another mini competition for the highest placed teams in the league - makes a massive difference.

100% agree I spend a lot of time correcting people when they call 1st place over the season ‘minor premiers ‘.. I’m a big fan of no finals series so there isn’t any debate as there is only one trophy on offer. But as I said before whilst ever the season is so short I understand the need for a finals system, and the money it adds to Club’s is also a bonus. But as you said clear separation is needed. So maybe call it the ‘ post season cup’, with Top 4 all put in a hat drawn out to see who you play against, so other then being in the top 4 your season rankings is irrelevant to who you play. Then you could either do two knock out games or home and away games.

[londonboy]

100% agree I spend a lot of time correcting people when they call 1st place over the season ‘minor premiers ‘.. I’m a big fan of no finals series so there isn’t any debate as there is only one trophy on offer. But as I said before whilst ever the season is so short I understand the need for a finals system, and the money it adds to Club’s is also a bonus. But as you said clear separation is needed. So maybe call it the ‘ post season cup’, with Top 4 all put in a hat drawn out to see who you play against, so other then being in the top 4 your season rankings is irrelevant to who you play. Then you could either do two knock out games or home and away games.

It sounds like we have a plan for the future. Who do I write to about getting this arranged? Stan Lazirides? Terry Venables? The Queen???

[Imyourhero]

So is it u18s next year? Then reserve grade with some age restrictions or...

[Aegon]

So is it u18s next year? Then reserve grade with some age restrictions or...

This. I don't know how many age restricted players reserve grade will have though.

[Hurricane]

So is it u18s next year? Then reserve grade with some age restrictions or...

No one knows because good old northern won't release what the grades are or what age restrictions apply until after the season.
The typical bullshit that forever comes out of Eland and his cronies, how do you start planning for next season when you don't even know what aged players to start recruiting.
They have had 3 years to work this shit out

[Negative Police]

They have had 3 years to work this shit out

Discussions to work out meetings to sort out 2020 will start after the grand final.

[Aegon]

From the Herald

Charlestown coach David Tanchevski has quit, saying he can no longer deal with the political problems at the Northern NSW NPL club.

Tanchevski resigned on Tuesday night after a tumultuous few weeks in which an outside group has interviewed coaches and attempted to gain support from players while building a bid to take control of the Blues committee.

Charlestown president Dean Crossley stepped aside last week before new membership applications were rejected at a committee meeting. The memberships needed to be approved in order for the applicants to have voting rights at the AGM in two weeks.

Contractual disputes between Tanchevski and the club had muddied the waters further and the coach decided to cut ties on Tuesday.


"I had two years at the club and I thoroughly enjoyed working with the playing group and club there," Tanchevski said. "My intention was to stay at the club next year and I had signed a couple of players. The boys were all keen to stay on and we were looking forward to building off this year.

"I'd identified a couple of players we needed and we'd signed them, and we were looking forward to challenging for the championship, but unfortunately an outside group don't want me to be renewed for next year and I want to work with a committee I trust and have faith in and one I can work long term with, and it's clear it's not going to happen at this club.

"I'm going to move on and explore other opportunities."

The Blues missed the finals by two points this season and three in the campaign before under Tanchevski, who took them to the round of 32 in the FFA Cup for the first time in 2018.

Tanchevski's decision will likely clear the way for Cooks Hill coach Graham Law to take over. Law was believed to be the likely coach under a new-look Blues committee.

The club announced on August 19 that Tanchevski had agreed to stay on in 2020. The Newcastle Herald understands a contract was signed, but the club did not recognise it because it was not endorsed by the entire committee.

Despite that, the club were believed to be discussing a new deal with Tanchevski as recently as last Friday.

"I had seven years at the Jaffas where I had a handshake agreement with Chris Snedden every year and I felt full support from the committee every year, so I just can't work with the politics involved here," he said.

"It's unfortunate because the players all wanted to stay together and I thought we made huge progress over the last two years.

"I coach because I enjoy football and dealing with people and players, but I don't enjoy politics and I don't want to be part of a club with political problems."

Tanchevski led Jaffas to their first state league promotion, for 2013, and was that year named coach of the year after taking them to second spot on debut.


His departure will likely have an impact on and off the pitch at the Blues next season.

Tanchevski brought several players to the club, including some from his 2014 grand final-winning Jaffas side, and he also helped bring in new sponsors. He was a club sponsor himself through his business, Stone Real Estate.

Internal club politics based on external personal grudges will severely impact Charlestown next season.

From what I have heard they'll need to replace several members of the committee, the Senior coaches (18's, Reserves as well) and face a lot of players looking at other clubs due to the turmoil.
Adam Hughes has already moved to Valo and how many of the former Jaffas players Tanchevski brought with him will still stay?

I hope the vendetta against Tanchevski and getting him removed in the end will be worth the set backs this will result in. Charlestown may take years to get back to where they are now.

[fan atic]

It appears the same type of turmoil resurfacing from a couple of years ago when President Hansen, & coach Foley try to over run the Tull / Wright committee. things then improved until Tull got out of control and white anted all committee and Wright left for Lakes. Now Tull gone but still controlling thru Standen. Lost connection with Club Azzuri, and major sponsor Charlie B.C. ego get in the way and things go pear shape.

[Hurricane]

Azzurri are gone. Will lose up to 9 of their first grade squad, all coaches plus all sponsors Tanch secured for the club.
The same duo driving him out, are the pair who drove Prycey out to get Tanch in

[Alton]

Azzurri are gone. Will lose up to 9 of their first grade squad, all coaches plus all sponsors Tanch secured for the club.
The same duo driving him out, are the pair who drove Prycey out to get Tanch in

Wow, this is really getting bad, I hope Law is smart enough to work out NEW FM players aren't the answer to replace those walking out

[Walker]

Then how come they ran 3rd

I think it’s fair to say that Edgeworth have the best coach, no other coach has the tactical preparation that Zane does, his ability to analyse other players and coach’s is 2nd to none in this comp

That said I bet most other coaches would love to have the time that Zane does

[Blueboy]

I think it’s fair to say that Edgeworth have the best coach, no other coach has the tactical preparation that Zane does, his ability to analyse other players and coach’s is 2nd to none in this comp

That said I bet most other coaches would love to have the time that Zane does

Makes it easy for Zane since he doesn’t have a job

[Bremsstrahlung]

All self inflicted for Charlestown Blues City Azzurri Highfields Wolves FC.
Time and time again politics and egos undermine success.
Hard to sympathise when the same thing happens time and time again.

[football]

All self inflicted for Charlestown Blues City Azzurri Highfields Wolves FC.
Time and time again politics and egos undermine success.
Hard to sympathise when the same thing happens time and time again.

Is it time for northern to step in?

[Stanley]

Is it time for northern to step in?

Didn't the same thing (politics) happen with Nick Webb at Lakes.

[Alton]

Is it time for northern to step in?

You have to kidding Football, as if. If they stepped in more often their decision on who to have in the comp would be far easier, they just don't get it!!

[Walker]

Wow, this is really getting bad, I hope Law is smart enough to work out NEW FM players aren't the answer to replace those walking out

Honestly I hope Law is smart enough to walk away. Why would anyone want the job, from what I know, still two parties fighting for control of committee, which ever party wins will still have the other party sniping away, this is a long way from being settled

[Walker]

Makes it easy for Zane since he doesn’t have a job

Yeah I know, and I’m sure other coaches would love the time that affords Zane

But they don’t and he does take full advantage, so kudos to Zane, et alios capiunt

[Aegon]

Honestly I hope Law is smart enough to walk away. Why would anyone want the job, from what I know, still two parties fighting for control of committee, which ever party wins will still have the other party sniping away, this is a long way from being settled

I can't imagine many players or coaches will be rushing to sign up for Azzurri at the moment.

[Jim]

I cant seeing Jaffas turning this deficit around. Yeah they have the players but pressure will tell. 3-1 Edgy

Magic Maitland take your pick.

[Alton]

I cant seeing Jaffas turning this deficit around. Yeah they have the players but pressure will tell. 3-1 Edgy

Magic Maitland take your pick.

Jaffas to be over the line leading 3-0 in the 88th minute only for a dodgy penalty call to Edgy to lose 3-1

[Blueboy]

Jaffas to be over the line leading 3-0 in the 88th minute only for a dodgy penalty call to Edgy to lose 3-1
With Evans back, I doubt Jaffa’s will get 3 shots on goal.

[Blueboy]

Speaking about this year Hurra no Jobe no Griffs x2 and I may have been around a bit longer than you but talk to Kanta, Remo and Pawiak and ask who developed them at the Jets. As for Kennedy has played one game. You serious can’t put the other three muppets in front of him. Any how’s his 3rd by a bit. What Zaney has continually done and what Kew has done this year put them well in front for coach of the year.

Kew did well to run 5th . Pascoe gone, but he will be fine for next year with the 10s of thousands he has spent on players for next year.

[Hurricane]

Speaking about this year Hurra no Jobe no Griffs x2 and I may have been around a bit longer than you but talk to Kanta, Remo and Pawiak and ask who developed them at the Jets. As for Kennedy has played one game. You serious can’t put the other three muppets in front of him. Any how’s his 3rd by a bit. What Zaney has continually done and what Kew has done this year put them well in front for coach of the year.

Now that the season is all most dusted, to mine Johnno, coach of the year between Bolch and Zane, with Kew a mentionable without being able to make semi final football.
Bolch in second year at Maitland has turned them around from a pub team, to a team who this year have qualified for the final 32cin ffa cup, won the club's first ever premiership and is one game away from Maitland's first ever appearance in a grand final.
Zane has just qualified his side for a 5th straight grand final appearance incredible, plus made the round of 16 in the ffa cup.
Possibly, if Maitland make the grand final, whoever wins it may get coach of the year

[Negative Police]

Insipid Jaffas not even close. Edgy deserve their gf shot

[Johnno]

Now that the season is all most dusted, to mine Johnno, coach of the year between Bolch and Zane, with Kew a mentionable without being able to make semi final football.
Bolch in second year at Maitland has turned them around from a pub team, to a team who this year have qualified for the final 32cin ffa cup, won the club's first ever premiership and is one game away from Maitland's first ever appearance in a grand final.
Zane has just qualified his side for a 5th straight grand final appearance incredible, plus made the round of 16 in the ffa cup.
Possibly, if Maitland make the grand final, whoever wins it may get coach of the year

Can’t disagree Hurra. Between Zane’s & Bloch both have done a great job, but I think you need to look who has developed players and brought them through and gave them opportunities to who hasn’t and relied on bringing players from other clubs to the club. Zane wins.

[Hurricane]

Can’t disagree Hurra. Between Zane’s & Bloch both have done a great job, but I think you need to look who has developed players and brought them through and gave them opportunities to who hasn’t and relied on bringing players from other clubs to the club. Zane wins.

Every coach brings players from other clubs Johnno.
No difference for either of thesr coaches either, on balance Bolch has a similar squad with the addition of Wood Davies Cowburn. Not a big turnover of players realistically, and i believe young Thompson and Thomas have improved immensely this year, agreed last season bought 5 or 6 with him from Olympic.
While Zane has done brilliant with young players, he has also bought plenty to the club. If you look at this year he has added Fabrizio, Oliver Smith ,Cavalieri, Gardner to his group. Then in last couple of years he has bought Josh Evans ,Josh Rose , McBreen, Byrnes , Saunders all to the club .
Just an example of all clubs and coaches do the same thing Johnno , not just Tanch Bolch and Zads.
But i agree with you that Zane is the best coach in the comp especially at bringing youth through the grades

[mervan]

Every coach brings players from other clubs Johnno.
No difference for either of thesr coaches either, on balance Bolch has a similar squad with the addition of Wood Davies Cowburn. Not a big turnover of players realistically, and i believe young Thompson and Thomas have improved immensely this year, agreed last season bought 5 or 6 with him from Olympic.
While Zane has done brilliant with young players, he has also bought plenty to the club. If you look at this year he has added Fabrizio, Oliver Smith ,Cavalieri, Gardner to his group. Then in last couple of years he has bought Josh Evans ,Josh Rose , McBreen, Byrnes , Saunders all to the club .
Just an example of all clubs and coaches do the same thing Johnno , not just Tanch Bolch and Zads.
But i agree with you that Zane is the best coach in the comp especially at bringing youth through the grades

NPL football is franchise football, there is no club and no community support, hence transient squads and no supporters, barring mums and dads. It’s coach merry go round, samevrubbish just a different colour. For example , Jaffa’s have no zero home ground players, zero local support, except for the bbq chef

[hamburgler]

NPL football is franchise football, there is no club and no community support, hence transient squads and no supporters, barring mums and dads. It’s coach merry go round, samevrubbish just a different colour. For example , Jaffa’s have no zero home ground players, zero local support, except for the bbq chef

Same with several clubs. Lakes next to no crowd. Valo the same. And some poor crowds at Maitland at times. Not so much second half of the season. Charlestown same.

[Hurricane]

Same with several clubs. Lakes next to no crowd. Valo the same. And some poor crowds at Maitland at times. Not so much second half of the season. Charlestown same.

You might as well also throw in Adamstown Lambton . So that's over half of the competition. Weston have been poor for years, but were a lot better this season with some success.
Really only Edgeworth Magic and Olympic, but i would also say that Magic and Olympic crowds have declined in the past 2 or 3 sessons

[hamburgler]

You might as well also throw in Adamstown Lambton . So that's over half of the competition. Weston have been poor for years, but were a lot better this season with some success.
Really only Edgeworth Magic and Olympic, but i would also say that Magic and Olympic crowds have declined in the past 2 or 3 sessons

Agree fully, I only named those with smaller crowds but all crowds down. Jaffa’s arguably the worst crowd numbers. Hard to say how much of that has to do with games being televised and how much to do with clubs changing and losing community support

[Johnno]

Agree fully, I only named those with smaller crowds but all crowds down. Jaffa’s arguably the worst crowd numbers. Hard to say how much of that has to do with games being televised and how much to do with clubs changing and losing community support

Agree with all the comments in this thread regarding crowds. Magic and Olympic have the largest crowds due to their ethnic backgrounds something FFA &NNSWF we’re trying to stamp out. Crowds are down in football at NPL and New FM seriously I don’t know how they survive. It’s followed on from A League trend. Not big numbers watching on Bar though I’d say these are more the football purists who can’t get to every game rather than a particular clubs supporters. Not good signs.

[Hurricane]

Prediction today
Broadmeadow 3 Maitland 2

[football]

What happen to Andrew Hoole?

[magician]

Maitland with yet another injury time goal to send them through on the away goals.

Another highly entertaining game with magic being the better team for 3/4 of the game.

[Alton]

What happen to Andrew Hoole?

Yeah where has he been?

[ForeverRed]

Broken foot

[Hurricane]

Prediction for Grand Final
Maitland 2 - 1
They just keep seeming to find a way to get the job done this season . Were outplayed for most of the second leg of the semi and again found the winner ( equaliser, but we will call it the winner ) deep into injury time.
But you can never write Edgeworth off, playing in their 5th gf in a row.
My only question is, why is it being played on a Sunday afternoon at 3pm ?

[plague]

My only question is, why is it being played on a Sunday afternoon at 3pm ?

i enjoy the day games, which bit dont you like the 3pm or the Sunday?

[Hurricane]

i enjoy the day games, which bit dont you like the 3pm or the Sunday?

The Sunday, not really fussed about kick off time. Surely they can understand it's a grand final and players and supporters want to celebrate during the day and afterwards.
Saturday just makes so much more sense to me Plague

[Hurricane]

Mitch Oxborrow Riley McNaughton and Scott Pettit to Jaffas
Kane Runge and Dino Faj to Olympic
Tom Smart Jayden Barber and Sam Walker to Magic

[Johnno]

Mitch Oxborrow Riley McNaughton and Scott Pettit to Jaffas
Kane Runge and Dino Faj to Olympic
Tom Smart Jayden Barber and Sam Walker to Magic

Same old player merry go round. So much for all those youth players paying thousands of $$ each year at clubs thinking there a chance at 1st grade in the future.
Connor Heydon & Jarryd Sutherland to Weston.

[hamburgler]

Same old player merry go round. So much for all those youth players paying thousands of $$ each year at clubs thinking there a chance at 1st grade in the future.
Connor Heydon & Jarryd Sutherland to Weston.

Plenty more player movement to come no doubt. Very difficult for young players to come through and make it to first grade in NPL in this region.

[magician]

Plenty more player movement to come no doubt. Very difficult for young players to come through and make it to first grade in NPL in this region.

If the “youth” players are good enough they would be playing 1st grade.
Simple fact is they aren’t

[Johnno]

Been told tonight that Ryan Gallagher has been appointed Referee Grand Final. Surely not. His not even the 5th best referee. Doesn’t he work for referees mob? Why not Steve Laurie?

[Swanky]

If they have an afternoon GF needs to be at Jets Stadium as they have the shade to cater for a hot day

[Jetmaster]

Nice in the shade at home watching BarTV....can easily walk down to the George Tavern for the free grog if we win.

[The Dunster]

Cracker of a 2nd goal to Edgeworth to seal the match.

Is Cowburn injured or is he simply just turning up to get paid ? It's like he doesn't want to be there.

[Jetmaster]

So no free beer at the George.

[W8 WATCHER]

Mitch Oxborrow Riley McNaughton and Scott Pettit to Jaffas
Kane Runge and Dino Faj to Olympic
Tom Smart Jayden Barber and Sam Walker to Magic

dino faj :deadhorse:
no goals scored at olympic in season 2020

[The Dunster]

dino faj :deadhorse:
no goals scored at olympic in season 2020

He's not a bad Keeper. Might be time for a positional change.

[GO AWAY]

Plenty more player movement to come no doubt. Very difficult for young players to come through and make it to first grade in NPL in this region.

Unless you go play for edgeworth, huge faith in youth....... nek minute...,four or five minor premierships ? Other clubs give youth a go like zany they may be up higher.

[spamg172]

Unless you go play for edgeworth, huge faith in youth....... nek minute...,four or five minor premierships ? Other clubs give youth a go like zany they may be up higher.

Give me Josh Evans and 10 planks of wood and I'll win you a Premiership

[Aegon]

Unless you go play for edgeworth, huge faith in youth....... nek minute...,four or five minor premierships ? Other clubs give youth a go like zany they may be up higher.

How long has Zane been the head coach for? Did his faith in youth bring immediate results?
I've only followed local football for a couple of years.

[The Hacker]

How long has Zane been the head coach for? Did his faith in youth bring immediate results?
I've only followed local football for a couple of years.

Instead of throwing huge cash at all these has beens and never will be's why doesn't one club offer that pot of gold to Zaney and see if they can develop the club. Everyone has a price

[Hurricane]

Zaney has done brilliant with the youth. But if anyone thinks they are not paying top dollar for Josh Rose, McBreen, Evans, Smith , Fabrizzio and Keanu are kidding themselves. Throw in Wheeler and Holtz and there is a world of experience there.
What Zane does better than any other coach is in the way he rotates his young players in and out of the starting side, and 9 times out of 10 he seems to pick the right player at the right time

[Walker]

Zaney has done brilliant with the youth. But if anyone thinks they are not paying top dollar for Josh Rose, McBreen, Evans, Smith , Fabrizzio and Keanu are kidding themselves. Throw in Wheeler and Holtz and there is a world of experience there.
What Zane does better than any other coach is in the way he rotates his young players in and out of the starting side, and 9 times out of 10 he seems to pick the right player at the right time


You forgot over recent years
Moriyasu
Sanders

Bizzarri and Cavaliere

None of those are playing for nothing

And most of Edgeworth youth that everyone goes on about are ex Jets or other clubs

I’ve said before that Zane is best coach in the NNSW NPL but it helps to have some of those names on your roster

[Walker]

Instead of throwing huge cash at all these has beens and never will be's why doesn't one club offer that pot of gold to Zaney and see if they can develop the club. Everyone has a price


Now that would be interesting

Most clubs couldn’t handle Zane, he brings a culture he demands

And to be fair Zane couldn’t handle most clubs, to much politics and external interruptions, he doesn’t do these well

[MFKS]

Instead of throwing huge cash at all these has beens and never will be's why doesn't one club offer that pot of gold to Zaney and see if they can develop the club. Everyone has a price

Because in a comp where there is no relegation as Northern are too incompetent to have it and they are playing for a trophy and 10k then that would make way too much sense when you can piss tens and hundreds of thousands of junior players rego fees down the drain to pay your full of mercenary player seniors

[De-Champ]

What has relegation/no relegation got to do with that. Are you saying Zane would have gone to another club if there was relegation?

[MFKS]

What has relegation/no relegation got to do with that. Are you saying Zane would have gone to another club if there was relegation?

What I am saying is there are no consequences of failure and the reward for success is so small

This being the case why are clubs spending 100s of thousands on player wages for mercenaries

Not a great deal of logic

[Football lover]

Zaney has done brilliant with the youth. But if anyone thinks they are not paying top dollar for Josh Rose, McBreen, Evans, Smith , Fabrizzio and Keanu are kidding themselves. Throw in Wheeler and Holtz and there is a world of experience there.
What Zane does better than any other coach is in the way he rotates his young players in and out of the starting side, and 9 times out of 10 he seems to pick the right player at the right time


100k spent on there team last few seasons. Known fact

[Football lover]

1st season 2015

Did the double 2015
Did the double again in 2016
Won the premiership in 2017 lost the GF
Won the premiership in 2018 lost the GF
Came 3rd won the GF

[Beppe]

1st season 2015

Did the double 2015
Did the double again in 2016
Won the premiership in 2017 lost the GF
Won the premiership in 2018 lost the GF
Came 3rd won the GF

He has done an amazing job. Would love to see him get some sort of opportunity with the Jets.

[Walker]

He has done an amazing job. Would love to see him get some sort of opportunity with the Jets.

I wonder if you could argue that Zane is more deserving of Jets Youth role than McBreen?

[De-Champ]

What I am saying is there are no consequences of failure and the reward for success is so small

This being the case why are clubs spending 100s of thousands on player wages for mercenaries

Not a great deal of logic

100s of thousands on player wages.....who you trying to kid.

[The Dunster]

100s of thousands on player wages.....who you trying to kid.

I read it to mean in aggregate not per club which is reasonable. But I think it's very possible for a club to spend 100k or more in a season over 20 games or so - it's less than $500 per player average.

It's not rational - but it is possible.

[Johnno]

I read it to mean in aggregate not per club which is reasonable. But I think it's very possible for a club to spend 100k or more in a season over 20 games or so - it's less than $500 per player average.

It's not rational - but it is possible.

You can add the FFA success to Zane’s record as well have only missed Round 32 once in his 5 years there.
As for clubs expenditure some are near $150K per season. It’s easier to work out who they are. A number of clubs are now playing high profile players per week win/lose/draw. Unlike the old days where you just got paid a win. It doesn’t take much to add up when you have 3 or 4 players on $800-$1000.

[JettyJet]

100k spent on there team last few seasons. Known fact

Rubbish.

[Football lover]

Rubbish.

Serious. Players stick around cause they enjoy winning things. Zany won’t pay players huge overs unless they are worth it i Guarantee you

[The Dunster]

Serious. Players stick around cause they enjoy winning things. Zany won’t pay players huge overs unless they are worth it i Guarantee you

The fact that the costs of running the teams is greater than the prizes on offer for winning suggests everyone in the competition is being paid overs.

[pv4]

I think it would be difficult to put a definite figure on each squads budget based on external factors also. A lot of players move to clubs with external add-ons like job promises or accomodation, for example. I struggle to think of a club in NPL or even the league under it in this town that haven't in the last 10 years negotiated for a player and tied in a job offer to that, however formally that offer was related.

Speaking about Edgy specifically, here is a Herald article from 2 years back stating one of their players worked for a clubman:
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/4888755/sanders-brings-polish-after-rough-beginning/send-us-your-news/

A stonemason by trade, Sanders is working at Edgeworth treasurer Warren Mills’ Newcastle Sheetmetal business and hopes to stay in Australia for another year or two.

And here is an article from today stating a player lived with a clubman:
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6391432/npl-edgeworth-look-to-regain-grand-final-hero/?cs=6188

He's lived with us, and he's a great kid

I would be surprised if there weren't articles of similar specs for every club in the NPL. And I think it's great clubs are able to do these kind of things. But I'm just stating these kind of additionals would skew any hard line figure anyone attempted to put on a squad budget nowadays.

[Beppe]

I wonder if you could argue that Zane is more deserving of Jets Youth role than McBreen?

Without knowing what McBreen has done specifically, maybe someone could comment if they disagree, but surely Zane would be more deserving of that role.

[Hunter403]

He has done an amazing job. Would love to see him get some sort of opportunity with the Jets.

Maybe he was approached. Maybe he doesn't want it. Who knows....

[Goatscheese]

100k spent on there team last few seasons. Known fact

He was clearly talking about all teams in the NPL, I'd be surprised if the total wages spent on all players in the NPL is less than $100K/season.

His next point wasn't on about Edgy but rather that the clubs can pay this because they will always be in NPL with no consequences for finishing last year after year.

[Goatscheese]

So Law has been signed up to Charlestown as 1st Grade Coach. He has already signed up a couple players from Cooks Hill and brought his assistant over with him.

[MFKS]

Without knowing what McBreen has done specifically, maybe someone could comment if they disagree, but surely Zane would be more deserving of that role.

McBreen has coached the Jets U18s side last 3 years

GF loss
GF win
GF win

Couple of minor premierships in there to boot

So being he has a tonne of HAL experience and is currently working for the Jets it hardly surprising he got the gig really

It ain't like Gypo CEO had to search worldwide to find him

[MFKS]

100s of thousands on player wages.....who you trying to kid.

I be quite content to be backing that the top 4 this season be pushing close to 100k if not breaking it in player wages for 2019

I also be backing that the other clubs bar the Jets be well over 50k each in player wages

$200 a player per game and you already pushing close to 50k and that assuming you paying them like communists

[plague]

McBreen has coached the Jets U18s side last 3 years

GF loss
GF win
GF win

Couple of minor premierships in there to boot

So being he has a tonne of HAL experience and is currently working for the Jets it hardly surprising he got the gig really

It ain't like Gypo CEO had to search worldwide to find him

Dont forget that McBreen also won the Jets an A-League title.
Bloke should walk into whatever job he wants for the remainder of time.

[Retro Jet]

Dont forget that McBreen also won the Jets an A-League title.
Bloke should walk into whatever job he wants for the remainder of time.

Also, don't forget that Agent McBreen fluffed one for da sCCuM before he went rogue and won said title.
Character sketchy...

[Alton]

So Law has been signed up to Charlestown as 1st Grade Coach. He has already signed up a couple players from Cooks Hill and brought his assistant over with him.

Surely not !!!

[Goatscheese]

Surely not !!!

Not sure if sarcasm or not but it is official and has been announced.

[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

He has done an amazing job. Would love to see him get some sort of opportunity with the Jets.

Throw in finalists in the NPL Playoffs in 2016 and semi finalists in 2017

[YewYew]

I wonder if you could argue that Zane is more deserving of Jets Youth role than McBreen?

Is Jets youth bigger/better than Edgy 1st grade? I think not. Jets Youth won’t get people ready for big jobs. Promoting from within is bs and never works. Zane keeps going like he is he’ll get a assistant coach or even 1st team with A-League team soon enough.

[YewYew]

Throw in finalists in the NPL Playoffs in 2016 and semi finalists in 2017

Top coach. He should stay and wait for a proper chance. Youth team below his level.

[Hurricane]

How far can Maitland go in the NPL final series. Was a huge result last weekend considering they were without Matt Swan Joel Woods Nick Cowburn and Grant Brown.
I think it will be a lot tougher this weekend against Brisbane Lions.
Does anyone know if they get any players back

[Aegon]

How far can Maitland go in the NPL final series. Was a huge result last weekend considering they were without Matt Swan Joel Woods Nick Cowburn and Grant Brown.
I think it will be a lot tougher this weekend against Brisbane Lions.
Does anyone know if they get any players back

I'd give them a good shout at home. If they can beat Brisbane Lions then they're in a final where anything can happen.

[Hurricane]

I'd give them a good shout at home. If they can beat Brisbane Lions then they're in a final where anything can happen.

Fair call on being a good shout at home. I think i read in the herald the other day that they are undefeated in all games at home this season, including npl, ffa cup , semis and npl final series against Hobart

[evolution]

NPL down to 10 teams for 2020, Jets Yoof confirmed in the NSW NPL system from next year.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/academy-jets-make-switch-npl-nsw


Newcastle Jets today welcomed the news from Football NSW regarding the Club’s youth teams and the NPL NSW competitions.

As of 2020, all 11 of the Jets Academy teams from the U/13s Boys and U/13s Girls teams, to the U/20s Men’s and Women’s teams, will compete in the NPL NSW.

Our women’s teams will continue to compete in the NPL NSW Women’s top- flight competition, while young boys teams, who will compete in the U/13s, U/14s, U/15s, and U/16s, will enter into the Youth NPL NSW 2.

The senior men’s youth teams, the U/16s, U/18s, and U/20s, will compete in the U/18s, U/20s, and First Grade competitions respectively in the Senior NPL NSW 4 and look to climb their way up the divisions.

According to Academy Technical Director, Craig Deans, the move will only benefit Newcastle’s young footballers.

“Playing in the NPL NSW has helped our young women immensely, we can see that through how many have progressed into the Westfield W-League side,” Deans said.

“For the boys to make the move will be a massive boost to their development and we’re confident it’ll have a positive impact on the quality of our youngsters.

“We see this is a fantastic move for the long-term health and success of our Academy and the players that come through it.”

Newcastle Jets CEO, Lawrie McKinna, said the future is bright for the Jets Academy.

“With the move to Hunter Sports High School and now the switch to the NPL NSW for our boys, 2020 is shaping as a landmark year for our Academy,” McKinna said.

“Northern NSW Football have been fantastic through this whole process and we want to thank them for all their support since we entered the NPL NNSW back in 2012.

“We also appreciate the hard work of Football NSW in ensuring we could bring seven new teams into their competitions and we’re looking forward to competing in the NPL NSW.”

[Imyourhero]

NPL 4?
Top quality football for the boys

[onlooker]

NPL 4?
Top quality football for the boys

Short term pain for long term gain I guess....

It was the only way they were going to be allowed to join as the NSW NPL refused to move one of their current teams out of a spot to accommodate. Which is understandable.

[plague]

Short term pain for long term gain I guess....

It was the only way they were going to be allowed to join as the NSW NPL refused to move one of their current teams out of a spot to accommodate. Which is understandable.

Do these grades have pro/rel?
Or do Jets have to reapply to move grades each year if they are any good?

[Hurricane]

Do these grades have pro/rel?
Or do Jets have to reapply to move grades each year if they are any good?
It's not nnsw, of course they have promotion and relegation

[Texas Ranger]

The NSW NPL2 Youth is really a combined 3 and 4 division. The Seniors are divided into 4 divisions of 12 clubs, but the youth has 2 divisions of 24. So both seniors and youth in bottom divisions. I assume all Jets home games will be played at away venues in Sydney. That will be tough to travel every week and playing 3/4th rate teams.

[Negative Police]

The NSW NPL2 Youth is really a combined 3 and 4 division. The Seniors are divided into 4 divisions of 12 clubs, but the youth has 2 divisions of 24. So both seniors and youth in bottom divisions. I assume all Jets home games will be played at away venues in Sydney. That will be tough to travel every week and playing 3/4th rate teams.

Should only be 1 year right? Maybe not, there'll be a few physical teams.

[Goatscheese]

NPL 4?
Top quality football for the boys

They have to earn their spot, if NPL4 is too much below them they should dominate next season. If they don't then they are probably playing at their level

[Goatscheese]

Do these grades have pro/rel?
Or do Jets have to reapply to move grades each year if they are any good?

Of course, Northern is pretty much the only state federation that doesn't have it in their highest levels.

FNSW go one better and separate the Youth and the Seniors for promotion, youth have a club championship so promotion and relegation for the youth is based on the performance of those four teams.

[plague]

FNSW go one better and separate the Youth and the Seniors for promotion, youth have a club championship so promotion and relegation for the youth is based on the performance of those four teams.

cheers.

[magician]

QLD lions a class above. 2-0

[anfield]

QLD lions a class above. 2-0

Maitland would have needed to be at full strength to compete with QLD Lions. Given Edgeworth's form at seasons end, they probably would have been greater opposition. Although Maitland earned their opportunity and credit to them for an outstanding season.
Queensland NPL probably has the strongest group of top 5 clubs atm in Australia.

[Hurricane]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Herqld article yesterday about Lundy signing with Weston , then reneging and signing for Azzurri.
Seems to be happening on a regular basis these days.
I noticed David Eland commenting about they would only register professional contracts.
Well hang on a minute David, to register a professional contract a player must be on a minimum of $5200/year ( or paid a minimum of $100/ week for 52 weeks ).
We are an amateur/ semi professional league at best. How are clubs meant to lodge player contracts guaranteeing players money when they may not even play.
Surely northern can come up with a contract whereas if a player signs a contract with a club guaranteeing said player a spot in a clubs 20 man pps roster, than said player is contracted to that club for the entire season unless the club signs a release.
How many clubs get caught nowadays , paying a players registration up front only for little Johnny to leave after 6 weeks and the club is $1000 out of pocket because you can't chase said player for the money owed

Surely there is a better system.

Player's need to honour their word and contract.
I can think of in the last 12 months alone,
Cody Carrol signed with Olympic reneged and played with Magic
Marcus Duncan signed with Jaffas reneged and played with Olympic
Lundy signed with Weston reneged signed with Azzurri

[ForeverRed]

Here we go, blaming NNSWF again, how about clubs grow some balls and don’t sign the clearance and players get their head out of their arses and realise their not that good, it’s not always northerns fault, the situation of only accepting pro contracts had been in place for many a year

[immersion]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Herqld article yesterday about Lundy signing with Weston , then reneging and signing for Azzurri.
Seems to be happening on a regular basis these days.
I noticed David Eland commenting about they would only register professional contracts.
Well hang on a minute David, to register a professional contract a player must be on a minimum of $5200/year ( or paid a minimum of $100/ week for 52 weeks ).
We are an amateur/ semi professional league at best. How are clubs meant to lodge player contracts guaranteeing players money when they may not even play.
Surely northern can come up with a contract whereas if a player signs a contract with a club guaranteeing said player a spot in a clubs 20 man pps roster, than said player is contracted to that club for the entire season unless the club signs a release.
How many clubs get caught nowadays , paying a players registration up front only for little Johnny to leave after 6 weeks and the club is $1000 out of pocket because you can't chase said player for the money owed

Surely there is a better system.

Player's need to honour their word and contract.
I can think of in the last 12 months alone,
Cody Carrol signed with Olympic reneged and played with Magic
Marcus Duncan signed with Jaffas reneged and played with Olympic
Lundy signed with Weston reneged signed with Azzurri

You are right, players and people, in general, need to honour their word. Lundy's reputation is now tarnished IMO because of this. And people have long, long memories. People forget it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and a second to ruin it.

As for your idea FR, I agree if put into the agreement the player signs that the club won't release them until the pro-rata fee is paid back to the club for the expenses incurred by the player to play at the club. This fee should be less than their wages IMO. Not hard for the clubs to write this in and it means that players can't go around trashing the club because the player signed the agreement.

[Aegon]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Herqld article yesterday about Lundy signing with Weston , then reneging and signing for Azzurri.
Seems to be happening on a regular basis these days.
I noticed David Eland commenting about they would only register professional contracts.
Well hang on a minute David, to register a professional contract a player must be on a minimum of $5200/year ( or paid a minimum of $100/ week for 52 weeks ).
We are an amateur/ semi professional league at best. How are clubs meant to lodge player contracts guaranteeing players money when they may not even play.
Surely northern can come up with a contract whereas if a player signs a contract with a club guaranteeing said player a spot in a clubs 20 man pps roster, than said player is contracted to that club for the entire season unless the club signs a release.
How many clubs get caught nowadays , paying a players registration up front only for little Johnny to leave after 6 weeks and the club is $1000 out of pocket because you can't chase said player for the money owed

Surely there is a better system.

Player's need to honour their word and contract.
I can think of in the last 12 months alone,
Cody Carrol signed with Olympic reneged and played with Magic
Marcus Duncan signed with Jaffas reneged and played with Olympic
Lundy signed with Weston reneged signed with Azzurri

I just noticed as part of this article that Jarryd Sutherland has signed for Weston.

Is there a central location that shows player movements?

[Dontknowmuch]

Here we go, blaming NNSWF again, how about clubs grow some balls and donÂ’t sign the clearance and players get their head out of their arses and realise their not that good, itÂ’s not always northerns fault, the situation of only accepting pro contracts had been in place for many a year

After a certain period now I think 7 days the transfer goes through. As far as I know there is nothing clubs can do to stop a player transferring, although there is a rule that they can only play with 2 clubs in any 1 season or something like that. I think that NNSW could do the whole comp a favour by making clubs submit player and coaching agreements for all in the top 20. May assist in keeping player payments down and making clubs not have agreements that make them spend beyond their means. I know clubs will fudge the numbers then players are told that only the money/conditions within in the agreement can be sought should a club cut them or not pay them etc. The Charlestown coach Tancheski is a case where the club sacked a coach that had agreed to terms from what we read in the paper, which should not be allowed either without compensation or agreed terms of release. The NPL is big numbers these day's I believe it is time our governing body took control of it a bit. MAybe even publicly release the figures, wouldnt the ATO and the parents of little Johnny love that. It might be a bit of tough love but it needs to stop somewhere, its a huge reason why kids rego fees are so high.

[Hurricane]

Here we go, blaming NNSWF again, how about clubs grow some balls and don’t sign the clearance and players get their head out of their arses and realise their not that good, it’s not always northerns fault, the situation of only accepting pro contracts had been in place for many a year

I don't know how it worked when you were involved with Southy FR , but clubs have no rites in releasing players anymore. If a player wants to leave a club he just has to go online and deregister from his club, sign for a new club, and he is free to begin playing for his new club after 7 days.
Whether he owes his original club rego fees or whatever, this doesn't matter, he is free to just start playing with a new club.

[Jardelsimage]

I don't know how it worked when you were involved with Southy FR , but clubs have no rites in releasing players anymore. If a player wants to leave a club he just has to go online and deregister from his club, sign for a new club, and he is free to begin playing for his new club after 7 days.
Whether he owes his original club rego fees or whatever, this doesn't matter, he is free to just start playing with a new club.

Partly correct, but I'm pretty sure Northern still have to press the button as you would say. Clubs can go to Northern and state there case as why he should not be released if they want, but in the end if you want out, don't owe anything your free to go.
In the end, a mans word is a mans word or a handshake is a deal, that seems to have gone out the window.

[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

What's everyone's thoughts on the Herqld article yesterday about Lundy signing with Weston , then reneging and signing for Azzurri.
Seems to be happening on a regular basis these days.
I noticed David Eland commenting about they would only register professional contracts.
Well hang on a minute David, to register a professional contract a player must be on a minimum of $5200/year ( or paid a minimum of $100/ week for 52 weeks ).
We are an amateur/ semi professional league at best. How are clubs meant to lodge player contracts guaranteeing players money when they may not even play.
Surely northern can come up with a contract whereas if a player signs a contract with a club guaranteeing said player a spot in a clubs 20 man pps roster, than said player is contracted to that club for the entire season unless the club signs a release.
How many clubs get caught nowadays , paying a players registration up front only for little Johnny to leave after 6 weeks and the club is $1000 out of pocket because you can't chase said player for the money owed

Surely there is a better system.

Player's need to honour their word and contract.
I can think of in the last 12 months alone,
Cody Carrol signed with Olympic reneged and played with Magic
Marcus Duncan signed with Jaffas reneged and played with Olympic
Lundy signed with Weston reneged signed with Azzurri

Whoa, whoa whoa. Let’s not expect too much out of Northern and their leader unless their is a ribbon to be cut or photo opp to be had

[Aegon]

Jaffas 2020

Ins - Mitch Oxborrow (Magic), Scott Pettit (Olympic), Riley McNaughton (Azzuri), Jayden Barber (Roosters)

Outs - Josh Sutton, Brock Messenger, James Pendrigh.

This on top of a hopefully much lighter injury list should put Jaffas in a good position for Top 4.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6416817/npl-lambton-jaffas-bolster-attack-after-tough-campaign/?cs=6188

[Hurricane]

Jaffas 2020

Ins - Mitch Oxborrow (Magic), Scott Pettit (Olympic), Riley McNaughton (Azzuri), Jayden Barber (Roosters)

Outs - Josh Sutton, Brock Messenger, James Pendrigh.

This on top of a hopefully much lighter injury list should put Jaffas in a good position for Top 4.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6416817/npl-lambton-jaffas-bolster-attack-after-tough-campaign/?cs=6188

Have also heard Bradbury to Jaffas

[Aegon]

Have also heard Bradbury to Jaffas

Really? Whilst I am not surprised that someone from Magic's attack had to move on after recruiting Walker & Hoole, I hnoestly thought it would have been Brymora as he has been the least impressive of the lot.

A Magic front 3 of Walker, Virgili and Bradbury would have been absolutely brutal trying to contain. Especially with Maj & Carrol off the bench.

But if Bradbury does go to Jaffas they'll have a front 3 of Crowley, Pettit & Bradbury.

It's going to be fun for NPL defences next year.

[magician]

Jaffas 2020

Ins - Mitch Oxborrow (Magic), Scott Pettit (Olympic), Riley McNaughton (Azzuri), Jayden Barber (Roosters)

Outs - Josh Sutton, Brock Messenger, James Pendrigh.

This on top of a hopefully much lighter injury list should put Jaffas in a good position for Top 4.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6416817/npl-lambton-jaffas-bolster-attack-after-tough-campaign/?cs=6188

The super coach trying to buy a title again.

[Aegon]

The super coach trying to buy a title again.

Isn't that what they all do? Very few players are only in it for the love at this level.

[ForeverRed]

Magic will need more then walker and smart after loosing Oxbarrow, be interesting to see how walker goes, he deserves to be in a winning team after being extremely loyal to Lakes and standing out in a poor club, just not sure whose going to provide the assists to him, Oxbarrow would have been perfect

[cobra23]

Really? Whilst I am not surprised that someone from Magic's attack had to move on after recruiting Walker & Hoole, I hnoestly thought it would have been Brymora as he has been the least impressive of the lot.

A Magic front 3 of Walker, Virgili and Bradbury would have been absolutely brutal trying to contain. Especially with Maj & Carrol off the bench.

But if Bradbury does go to Jaffas they'll have a front 3 of Crowley, Pettit & Bradbury.

It's going to be fun for NPL defences next year.

Yes very interesting.
I would go

Bradbury. Maj. Virgili

Walker. Hoole.

Kantarovski

Virgili Griffiths. Smart. M Hoole

[Aegon]

Magic will need more then walker and smart after loosing Oxbarrow, be interesting to see how walker goes, he deserves to be in a winning team after being extremely loyal to Lakes and standing out in a poor club, just not sure whose going to provide the assists to him, Oxbarrow would have been perfect

I think Walker will definitely get help from his wide guys. Late in the season teams were looking to shut down Virgili in order to stifle Magic as there wasn't a great deal of goal scoring threat elsewhere. If he'd have had a Crowley, Smith or Walker centrally last year I think they'd have won the comp again.

[cobra23]

I think Walker will definitely get help from his wide guys. Late in the season teams were looking to shut down Virgili in order to stifle Magic as there wasn't a great deal of goal scoring threat elsewhere. If he'd have had a Crowley, Smith or Walker centrally last year I think they'd have won the comp again.

Disagree big time .
They already have a perfect 9 and if the ball got across to him they would have finished on top ..
To me the magic wingers a very selfish..
And would rather shoot the pass

[Aegon]

Disagree big time .
They already have a perfect 9 and if the ball got across to him they would have finished on top ..
To me the magic wingers a very selfish..
And would rather shoot the pass

Who’s the perfect 9?

[Hurricane]

I think Walker will definitely get help from his wide guys. Late in the season teams were looking to shut down Virgili in order to stifle Magic as there wasn't a great deal of goal scoring threat elsewhere. If he'd have had a Crowley, Smith or Walker centrally last year I think they'd have won the comp again.

They had the best team in the comp and scraped into 4th place. They also scored the most goals in the comp , so it had nothing to do with not scoring enough goals.
When was the last time Magic won the premiership, not the Gf, because they have never been the nnsw representative at seasons end. The 6 years of inception have been
Maitland 2019
Edgeworth 2018
Edgeworth 2017
Edgeworth 2016
Edgeworth 2015
Weston 2014, although Jets won the comp.
So neither Magic , Olympic or Jaffas have won the premiership for at least 6 years,

[Johnno]

They had the best team in the comp and scraped into 4th place. They also scored the most goals in the comp , so it had nothing to do with not scoring enough goals.
When was the last time Magic won the premiership, not the Gf, because they have never been the nnsw representative at seasons end. The 6 years of inception have been
Maitland 2019
Edgeworth 2018
Edgeworth 2017
Edgeworth 2016
Edgeworth 2015
Weston 2014, although Jets won the comp.
So neither Magic , Olympic or Jaffas have won the premiership for at least 6 years,

A lot of $$$ spent at those three clubs over that time for zero premierships!!!

[ForeverRed]

Even more at the ones that did win it

[Hurricane]

Even more at the ones that did win it

Don't think anyone has spent more $$$ then $neddo at the jaffas forever

[Hurricane]

Magic will need more then walker and smart after loosing Oxbarrow, be interesting to see how walker goes, he deserves to be in a winning team after being extremely loyal to Lakes and standing out in a poor club, just not sure whose going to provide the assists to him, Oxbarrow would have been perfect

They have lost more than Oxborrow, throw in Bradbury ,Piddington and Broadley retired and uncertainty around John Griff playing again with heart issue and that's 5 of their starting side gone

[Hunter403]

Don't think anyone has spent more $$$ then $neddo at the jaffas forever

Juniors don't deem to be coming through there

[Goatscheese]

The Charlestown coach Tancheski is a case where the club sacked a coach that had agreed to terms from what we read in the paper, which should not be allowed either without compensation or agreed terms of release.

Tancheski shouldn't have signed the contract without these terms in them

[Negative Police]

The super coach trying to buy a title again.

Pot kettle black

[Johnno]

Even more at the ones that did win it
Only the pies from that list.

[cobra23]

Who’s the perfect 9?

John Maj
Get the ball to him and he will put them away more consistently then Sam walker will

[Hurricane]

Only the pies from that list.

Money well spent with the season they have had then

[Hurricane]

John Maj
Get the ball to him and he will put them away more consistently then Sam walker will

Agree, Maj is the best 9 in the comp for magic's squad

[Johnno]

Money well spent with the season they have had then

Probably right. But still don’t get spending well in excess of $100K to win $10K.

[Hurricane]

Probably right. But still don’t get spending well in excess of $100K to win $10K.

Every club in the top 6 plus Valo spent over $100k this year Johnno, if you don't think that then you are delusional. And Hamilton probably the same.
Edgeworth and Maitland both got the best bang for their buck.
Edgy would have made 10k for winning gf and from what i hear made 50k against Jets.
Maitland 10k for winning premiership and nearly 40k from Mariners game from what i hear

[traffic light]

Juniors don't deem to be coming through there

:rof: Nearly all juniors come from other clubs anyway.

Which clubs develop and include their juniors at top level? Coalfields teams?

[hamburgler]

:rof: Nearly all juniors come from other clubs anyway.

Which clubs develop and include their juniors at top level? Coalfields teams?

Clearly not Maitland

[Hunter403]

From what I have seen the NEWFM clubs take far more interest in their youth teams than the NPL clubs. Check out the facebook pages for evidence. You would think that the NPL clubs would love their juniors: make them feel part of something so that maybe, just maybe, those players will cost them less in the futture.

[Hurricane]

Alex Read to Valentine

[Aegon]

Alex Read to Valentine

Danny Ireland as well.

[Hurricane]

$ill$$y $pending up big

[Johnno]

$ill$$y $pending up big

Saving face and ego. Did the same first year he was there and didn’t make semis.

[Bull fighter]

Saving face and ego. Did the same first year he was there and didn’t make semis.

Who are you talking about

[Walker]

$ill$$y $pending up big

Certainly seems to be, did similar last year with poor results, maybe it’s not the players ?

[Hunter403]

Maybe Valo got the word to improve or expect a visit to the NEWFM. Cooks Hill in the wings and waiting..

[Aegon]

Maybe Valo got the word to improve or expect a visit to the NEWFM. Cooks Hill in the wings and waiting..

Call me cynical, but I'll only believe that when I see it.

[Hurricane]

Maybe Valo got the word to improve or expect a visit to the NEWFM. Cooks Hill in the wings and waiting..

Have also heard of big problems just up the highway from Valo. CCB with their usual end of season problems. Stay tuned for a massive fallout between the club and it's former coach.
Maybe the juniors are running late with their regos this year ?

[Goatscheese]

Have also heard of big problems just up the highway from Valo. CCB with their usual end of season problems. Stay tuned for a massive fallout between the club and it's former coach.
Maybe the juniors are running late with their regos this year ?

He is long gone and the club has already moved on, I doubt there will be any massive fallout.

[Dontknowmuch]

He is long gone and the club has already moved on, I doubt there will be any massive fallout.

I'm pretty sure Hurricane is correct and its going to get nasty.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Charlestown highfields wolves city blues Azzurri Fc always seem to be shooting themselves in the foot.

[Aegon]

Richard Hartley has been appointed as Head of Football at Lambton Jaffas and has resigned from Newcastle Football.

Looks like he will in charge of developing the clubs footballing systems, admin processes & communications. His footballing focus will be on the Youth & SAP with some involvement in the senior team as well.

From Jaffas NPL facebook page:
Jaffas Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/lambtonjaffas/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARCzUCzsovl5m9IQTGGFcPfGcBC5n0EN8KG6mZtxFZKiLs PWOUuMiqDBK1MAkIktdDlIygmB3uZcQaFC&hc_ref=ARQlse8msIEOYQHL7yDnxtf6C3YG8NWpuTuN1gF_CEY 51Xkn55dvFkpM72d9An-J6D8&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARByqv15skNmusXmKFo4kh-OaWfzNykt_IYjr2s3VfyAiG52AVvhHEnu8-PLh51U7Bq9Sx1RijLMjt8l5z0ON3uPbcMygUfkUeVKDp_WWnIY CfPT8w2WFOUN3UD4bpIm8Tf-sOpHWQ2KYNXi4fGLLxLZD2yhmTXFpsZlSLs9THONbH5dISKJFj D_m7DycHxid5a3X4NdxTDStRX_2jiqpesrsNZTEPBlEJfAUqQc f2qvefksyMWDjF9tPHCD2s5-FsZ6nln0vWUYmOvwC_e59fYBzV_rXl-V2daztb7DXm0VUIASgH-sJmx8gfu7X0zJ07DzTIBK-Dx8bLCARHPK05BkfWqO6bz333wiEs5WnFRduq6EJtDE7V0i)

[Jim]

Hmmmm? Why? Does he still run NET?

[Goatscheese]

I'm pretty sure Hurricane is correct and its going to get nasty.

Well hopefully some details and not rumour is actually posted here.

[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

Lot of hearsay and conjecture that Adam Johnson has signed for a local NPL club.....

[ForeverRed]

Who

[dan]

I just ran Adam Johnson through Wikipedia & I hope it’s a different Adam Johnson than the one that came up.

[mervan]

Richard Hartley has been appointed as Head of Football at Lambton Jaffas and has resigned from Newcastle Football.

Looks like he will in charge of developing the clubs footballing systems, admin processes & communications. His footballing focus will be on the Youth & SAP with some involvement in the senior team as well.

From Jaffas NPL facebook page:
Jaffas Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/lambtonjaffas/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARCzUCzsovl5m9IQTGGFcPfGcBC5n0EN8KG6mZtxFZKiLs PWOUuMiqDBK1MAkIktdDlIygmB3uZcQaFC&hc_ref=ARQlse8msIEOYQHL7yDnxtf6C3YG8NWpuTuN1gF_CEY 51Xkn55dvFkpM72d9An-J6D8&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARByqv15skNmusXmKFo4kh-OaWfzNykt_IYjr2s3VfyAiG52AVvhHEnu8-PLh51U7Bq9Sx1RijLMjt8l5z0ON3uPbcMygUfkUeVKDp_WWnIY CfPT8w2WFOUN3UD4bpIm8Tf-sOpHWQ2KYNXi4fGLLxLZD2yhmTXFpsZlSLs9THONbH5dISKJFj D_m7DycHxid5a3X4NdxTDStRX_2jiqpesrsNZTEPBlEJfAUqQc f2qvefksyMWDjF9tPHCD2s5-FsZ6nln0vWUYmOvwC_e59fYBzV_rXl-V2daztb7DXm0VUIASgH-sJmx8gfu7X0zJ07DzTIBK-Dx8bLCARHPK05BkfWqO6bz333wiEs5WnFRduq6EJtDE7V0i)

I'm sorry but Lambton like all NPL clubs just burn any local players, have no interest in development, hence why the massive local crowds flock to the games, hence zero local support, they should be called franchise clubs, call them blah blah, but don't link them to a suburb, the suburb clubs are myth

[Jim]

I just ran Adam Johnson through Wikipedia & I hope it’s a different Adam Johnson than the one that came up.

surely not

[Bremsstrahlung]

Here we go again

[MFKS]

I just ran Adam Johnson through Wikipedia & I hope it’s a different Adam Johnson than the one that came up.

The bloke did play for England this decade won the EPL and an FA Cup Final and made 200 to 300 appearances in the EPL and played with Kompany Tevez Ballotelli David Silva Patrick Viera and Yaya Toure

Why wouldn't he be welcome in this comp??

[magician]

The bloke did play for England this decade won the EPL and an FA Cup Final and made 200 to 300 appearances in the EPL and played with Kompany Tevez Ballotelli David Silva Patrick Viera and Yaya Toure

Why wouldn't he be welcome in this comp??

Are you serious 🤦🏼*♂️

[Aegon]

I'd be very surprised if he passed Australia's VISA laws.

[pastor399]

The bloke did play for England this decade won the EPL and an FA Cup Final and made 200 to 300 appearances in the EPL and played with Kompany Tevez Ballotelli David Silva Patrick Viera and Yaya Toure

Why wouldn't he be welcome in this comp??

Would you want this guy anywhere near your children???????
no way he would pass a WWCC, which has nothing to do with football, but more to do with the sort of character we allow into this country.........and irregardless of his football career, the country is 1000x better without his presence.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWMO8tE5-mtPcfjx7Anp9DRVghFedBnlBnO1om1E2caR_0tEqlJw&s

[plague]

Are you serious ����*♂️

are you serious asking that question about the Member?


https://media3.giphy.com/media/ZY7tD6FsWhTyEUPNyR/200.webp?cid=790b76110c4e02b1df3aaf70eb7bbc491feb3 48973559d8d&rid=200.webp

[GO AWAY]

Newcastle all stars playing in the indigenous football tournament in Nowra, interesting mark bridge and jade north strapping the boots on as well

[Goatscheese]

Lot of hearsay and conjecture that Adam Johnson has signed for a local NPL club.....

If it's the one everyone else is claiming, he was released on parole, wonder how he will be able to meet the parole conditions that the UK put on him from Australia. i.e. most likely bs

[magician]

Heard from a good source that Crowley is off to Maitland.

[Johnno]

Heard from a good source that Crowley is off to Maitland.

Was on Herald website this morning so it’s true

[Jim]

Was on Herald website this morning so it’s true

Pascoe doesnt seem too concerned. He's not going as well is he?

[Hurricane]

Pascoe doesnt seem too concerned. He's not going as well is he?
Just a brave front i think Jim, any coach who lost a player of Crowley's ability would be very concerned

[hamburgler]

Heard from a good source that Crowley is off to Maitland.

And they keep saying young guys like Tom Duggan will get a crack, good luck!

[Blueboy]

Why won’t he? They have lost read, Clarke and Thompson.

[hamburgler]

Why won’t he? They have lost read, Clarke and Thompson.
Read and Thompson mostly bench players and not front third players in any case.
Hadn’t heard Clarke leaving and that surprises me if true.
Comerford back apparently so in front third they have Wood, James Thompson, Crowley, comerford, Pratt even if Clarke leaves.
Heard it all before with Duggan they string him along and only use him when absolutely necessary. And every year they keep him hanging talking him up in local press, yet nothing changes!

[magician]

Read and Thompson mostly bench players and not front third players in any case.
Hadn’t heard Clarke leaving and that surprises me if true.
Comerford back apparently so in front third they have Wood, James Thompson, Crowley, comerford, Pratt even if Clarke leaves.
Heard it all before with Duggan they string him along and only use him when absolutely necessary. And every year they keep him hanging talking him up in local press, yet nothing changes!
If that’s the case why does he stay? Sounds like you know nothing

[hamburgler]

If that’s the case why does he stay? Sounds like you know nothing

Says he who knows everything!

Players stay for a variety of reasons, did I say I know why?

He is one of only a couple from their premiership winning 20s team last year to stay next year.

Maybe he giving them one last chance but over a dozen of his team mates now gone!

[magician]

Says he who knows everything!

Players stay for a variety of reasons, did I say I know why?

He is one of only a couple from their premiership winning 20s team last year to stay next year.

Maybe he giving them one last chance but over a dozen of his team mates now gone!

And where have they gone? 2nd division or 20s at other NPL teams. Good try tho

[hamburgler]

And where have they gone? 2nd division or 20s at other NPL teams. Good try tho

Once again you miss the point.
Nowhere did I say he should or shouldn’t be there, nor any others.
My point was the crap you read in local press from the club year after year about the next group coming through yet it never happens!
But I’m sure you will twist my comments around again!

[Hurricane]

Says he who knows everything!

Players stay for a variety of reasons, did I say I know why?

He is one of only a couple from their premiership winning 20s team last year to stay next year.

Maybe he giving them one last chance but over a dozen of his team mates now gone!

I would love to see you name a dozen of his team mates who have left. Thompson was their #10, so surely that's a front third player.
Possibly Duggan needs to do more to crack into first grade, how many goals did he score this year.
Anyone complaining about the club signing Braedyn Crowley must have rocks in their head

[magician]

Once again you miss the point.
Nowhere did I say he should or shouldn’t be there, nor any others.
My point was the crap you read in local press from the club year after year about the next group coming through yet it never happens!
But I’m sure you will twist my comments around again!
I’d like to see those articles. Please share

[Supersub]

Wasn’t there some sort of rumours that Matt Thompson and Ryan Clarke we’re heading to azzuri with Rhys Thompson etc?

[W8 WATCHER]

Heard from a good source that Crowley is off to Maitland.

:banghead::banghead:
coxborough, sign on fee,rent arrangments and @1500 per game, obviously EQUATES to no more golden boot at jaffas

possible cock fight in the making though, with coxborough and dick hartley there at jaffaland


great news for Maitland though

[immersion]

:banghead::banghead:
coxborough, sign on fee,rent arrangments and @1500 per game, obviously EQUATES to no more golden boot at jaffas

possible cock fight in the making though, with coxborough and dick hartley there at jaffaland


great news for Maitland though

Is this a rumor? Or is it true?

Because it is an outrageous package if it is true.

[Hurricane]

Is this a rumor? Or is it true?

Because it is an outrageous package if it is true.

I have heard that is the package Oxborrow is on. Good dollars if you can get it

[MFKS]

The way he played last season every time I watched Magic he was well off the pace for this level

That money seems excessive

[Aegon]

The way he played last season every time I watched Magic he was well off the pace for this level

That money seems excessive

Well off the pace and still manages to be player of the year?

[plague]

Well off the pace and still manages to be player of the year?

to be fair the Member has awarded that prize to Kale for the past 32 years so Oxborrow never stood a chance.

[immersion]

Well off the pace and still manages to be player of the year?

Yeah my thoughts exactly. Either MFKS only saw one or two games and OX was poor in those games or MFKS is a poor judge. Or I suppose every coach in the league in the league is a poor judhe of player?

[plague]

Yeah my thoughts exactly. Either MFKS only saw one or two games and OX was poor in those games or MFKS is a poor judge. Or I suppose every coach in the league in the league is a poor judhe of player?

must say i saw a few of his games this year, and the only knock i had was that he at times just looked plain disinterested, especially when his coach was singling him out.
skill wise, thought he was as good as anyone i saw all year.

[YewYew]

The way he played last season every time I watched Magic he was well off the pace for this level

That money seems excessive

agree with this. Ox probably best gifted player, but didnt look like he wanted to be there most of the time. coaches probably voting on name. happens all the time.

[Hurricane]

The old chain reaction. Crowley to Maitland, Bradbury from Magic to Jaffas as Crowley's replacement

[Aegon]

The old chain reaction. Crowley to Maitland, Bradbury from Magic to Jaffas as Crowley's replacement

TBF, with Magic’s attacking stock, someone had to move on.

I would have thought it would have been Brymora though as he was the most underperforming of the lot.

[Hurricane]

TBF, with Magic’s attacking stock, someone had to move on.

I would have thought it would have been Brymora though as he was the most underperforming of the lot.

Money talks, apparently Jaffas offer was double his contract al Magic. I suppose Jaffas would have had some spare cash after losing Crowley

[Aegon]

Money talks, apparently Jaffas offer was double his contract al Magic. I suppose Jaffas would have had some spare cash after losing Crowley

The money in the league is way over the top. But if they didn’t pay these blokes would they just go to Sydney, Melbourne or elsewhere? I’ve got no idea.

I don’t see why we can’t restructure our national game to have promotion relegation top to bottom?
Screw all the criteria nonsense.

Set it up similar to the conference leagues in the UK. Fully regionalised at lower levels. However at a certain level you play a bit further afield. Then you move into a national second division by a playoff system and the second division would then have promotion relegation with the A league?

It’s a simple enough concept that for some reason no one wants to
Implement.

If this was the case the money being thrown around would make sense as there is an aspiration to move on to bigger and better things.

/end rant

[Goatscheese]

The money in the league is way over the top. But if they didn’t pay these blokes would they just go to Sydney, Melbourne or elsewhere? I’ve got no idea.

Some of the better players do go to Melbourne and Sydney and they get paid a lot more than here in Newcastle.

[Hurricane]

Does anyone know of a start date for Npl next year or when a draw is released.
I have heard of quite a few changes for next season, with the semi final series changing back to a top 5 format, plus i have also heard that the 18's and reserve comps will be allowed to make 5 substitutions instead of the usual 3. Thoughts on this everyone

[Hunter403]

Does anyone know of a start date for Npl next year or when a draw is released.
I have heard of quite a few changes for next season, with the semi final series changing back to a top 5 format, plus i have also heard that the 18's and reserve comps will be allowed to make 5 substitutions instead of the usual 3. Thoughts on this everyone

7/8 March i believe
You are correct regarding subs from what i understand

[Jardelsimage]

5 subs per game, might as well have unlimited interchange.
this is meant to be our premier comp, FFS.....these roosters(not allowed to call them cocks) running our game need to leave.....

[cobra23]

Hang on ..
is it being able to have 5 on the bench or 5 replacements??
i have heard extended bench not interchange.

[Hurricane]

Hang on ..
is it being able to have 5 on the bench or 5 replacements??
i have heard extended bench not interchange.

Same substitution rules as it always has been. But now you can make 5 substitutions per match instead of 3.
Have also heard they have extended 18's and 20's games from 80 minutes to 90 minutes.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Wasn’t there some sort of rumours that Matt Thompson and Ryan Clarke we’re heading to azzuri with Rhys Thompson etc?

Heard the same, whether its true or tongue in cheek is another thing. The Azzurri referenced in this talk is the REAL (and only) Azzurri, from Hamilton.

[Goatscheese]

Have also heard they have extended 18's and 20's games from 80 minutes to 90 minutes.

About bloody time.

[YewYew]

Heard the same, whether its true or tongue in cheek is another thing. The Azzurri referenced in this talk is the REAL (and only) Azzurri, from Hamilton.

Talking of Hamilton, I see Olympic are now calling them self “Newcastle Olympic”. Dropped the Hamilton. Makes them sound bigger. Good idea.

[Hurricane]

Talking of Hamilton, I see Olympic are now calling them self “Newcastle Olympic”. Dropped the Hamilton. Makes them sound bigger. Good idea.

Hopefully the change of name improves their results. Been way below par for the last few seasons. Extremely disappointing this year

[Goatscheese]

Talking of Hamilton, I see Olympic are now calling them self “Newcastle Olympic”. Dropped the Hamilton. Makes them sound bigger. Good idea.

The Italians changed their name, the Greeks have to as well, can't be upstaged by the barbarians across the Adriatic.

[Aegon]

From the Herald: (https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6488331/lambton-jaffas-find-quality-replacement-for-braedyn-crowley/?cs=7580&fbclid=IwAR3Pv0OnBZa3gcjerxavddZGcHQ2oMXtSyW3Gvowc FO4wenBOuzR7Osuyhk)
Lambton Jaffas have quickly filled the void left by Northern NSW NPL leading scorer Braedyn Crowley with the recruitment of Kale Bradbery from Broadmeadow for 2020.

Bradbery, who won the grand final with Jaffas in 2014, has been with Magic the past five seasons and is a former NNSW state league leading scorer with the Newcastle Jets Youth team.

The striker was also a National Youth League top scorer after gaining an opportunity with the Jets following an impressive start to his senior career at Broadmeadow.

Jaffas were shocked to lose Crowley, a former Jets and Melbourne City A-League player, to reigning premiers Maitland this month, but they found a quality replacement alongside fellow star recruits Mitch Oxborrow (Broadmeadow) and Scott Pettit (Hamilton).

Oxborrow was the Graham Jennings medallist this year, while Pettit is also a former league player of the year.

Jaffas coach James Pascoe, who brought Bradbery into the Jets youth system when he was involved, was pleased to get the fleet-footed striker back to Lambton.

"Kale has been extremely close to coming back a couple of times over my four years at the club," Pascoe said.

"He's always someone I've had a close relationship with, and when Braedyn decided to accept Maitland's offer, it put us in the position to act and sign someone, and Kale was top of the list."

Broadmeadow coach Anthony Richards was disappointed to lose another top-line player. Bradbery and Oxborrow were part of Magic's 2018 grand final victory.

"Kale was pretty good with the boys and the crowd loved him as well, so they'll miss him," Richards said.

"Kale always tried really hard and he's a terrific guy."

But Richards, who has taken over from Ruben Zadkovich as head coach, was excited to see the younger brigade at Magic take their chance.

Skipper Josh Piddington and Justin Broadley are also losses for Magic, through retirement, but 2018 Graham Jennings medallist Sam Walker is an addition from Lake Macquarie.

"Guys like Jacob Dowse, David Ifield and Jeremy Wilson, they should be looking at this and saying this is a great opportunity," Richards said.

"And we've still got Sam Walker, John Majurovski, Kristian Brymora and James Virgili there in attack."

Luke Virgili will be the new captain at Broadmeadow.

[Hurricane]

From the Herald: (https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6488331/lambton-jaffas-find-quality-replacement-for-braedyn-crowley/?cs=7580&fbclid=IwAR3Pv0OnBZa3gcjerxavddZGcHQ2oMXtSyW3Gvowc FO4wenBOuzR7Osuyhk)
Lambton Jaffas have quickly filled the void left by Northern NSW NPL leading scorer Braedyn Crowley with the recruitment of Kale Bradbery from Broadmeadow for 2020.

Bradbery, who won the grand final with Jaffas in 2014, has been with Magic the past five seasons and is a former NNSW state league leading scorer with the Newcastle Jets Youth team.

The striker was also a National Youth League top scorer after gaining an opportunity with the Jets following an impressive start to his senior career at Broadmeadow.

Jaffas were shocked to lose Crowley, a former Jets and Melbourne City A-League player, to reigning premiers Maitland this month, but they found a quality replacement alongside fellow star recruits Mitch Oxborrow (Broadmeadow) and Scott Pettit (Hamilton).

Oxborrow was the Graham Jennings medallist this year, while Pettit is also a former league player of the year.

Jaffas coach James Pascoe, who brought Bradbery into the Jets youth system when he was involved, was pleased to get the fleet-footed striker back to Lambton.

"Kale has been extremely close to coming back a couple of times over my four years at the club," Pascoe said.

"He's always someone I've had a close relationship with, and when Braedyn decided to accept Maitland's offer, it put us in the position to act and sign someone, and Kale was top of the list."

Broadmeadow coach Anthony Richards was disappointed to lose another top-line player. Bradbery and Oxborrow were part of Magic's 2018 grand final victory.

"Kale was pretty good with the boys and the crowd loved him as well, so they'll miss him," Richards said.

"Kale always tried really hard and he's a terrific guy."

But Richards, who has taken over from Ruben Zadkovich as head coach, was excited to see the younger brigade at Magic take their chance.

Skipper Josh Piddington and Justin Broadley are also losses for Magic, through retirement, but 2018 Graham Jennings medallist Sam Walker is an addition from Lake Macquarie.

"Guys like Jacob Dowse, David Ifield and Jeremy Wilson, they should be looking at this and saying this is a great opportunity," Richards said.

"And we've still got Sam Walker, John Majurovski, Kristian Brymora and James Virgili there in attack."

Luke Virgili will be the new captain at Broadmeadow.

Would take Crowley over Bradbury anytime, although I think Bradbury will do well at Jaffas.
Bigger concern is Magic, losing 4 of their starters in Piddo Oxborrow Bradbury and Broadley. On top of that does anyone know if Johnny Griff will play next year, or has he not recovered from the health issues that ended his season this year.
That could be 5 starters gone and as far as i know they have only added Tom Smart and Sam Walker

[Aegon]

That could be 5 starters gone and as far as i know they have only added Tom Smart and Sam Walker

2 pretty good additions though TBF.

[plague]

Can't believe they didn't mention the Member signing for Jaffas as well.

Typical fake news media.

hashtagbringbackthekalefapometer

[Captain_Carl]

Dates for start of NPL 2020:
Seniors round 1 is 21st March. Youth and SAP on 7th March.

[londonboy]

https://www.ffa.com.au/news/ffa-conduct-review-national-premier-leagues-npl-competition

"Football Federation Australia (FFA) today announced that it will conduct a review of Australia’s National Premier Leagues (NPL) competition over the coming months.

The review, which is aimed to be complete by the end of February 2020, will engage a range of key stakeholders, including but not limited to each of Australia’s Member Federations, the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC), Professional Footballers Australia (PFA), FFA’s Women’s Football Council, Football Coaches Australia (FCA), and the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association (APFCA).

The purpose of the review is to reflect on the outcomes realised since the NPL was launched in 2013, identify potential enhancements or initiatives to improve the competition, and clarify the role of the NPL within the national competition structure and the player pathway.

Among other matters, the review will consider the NPL Finals Series including its structure and timing, the cost of youth football in the NPL, the structure of the NPL in each state, and the Player Points System."

[plague]

https://www.ffa.com.au/news/ffa-conduct-review-national-premier-leagues-npl-competition

"Football Federation Australia (FFA) today announced that it will conduct a review of Australia’s National Premier Leagues (NPL) competition over the coming months.

The review, which is aimed to be complete by the end of February 2020, will engage a range of key stakeholders, including but not limited to each of Australia’s Member Federations, the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC), Professional Footballers Australia (PFA), FFA’s Women’s Football Council, Football Coaches Australia (FCA), and the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association (APFCA).

The purpose of the review is to reflect on the outcomes realised since the NPL was launched in 2013, identify potential enhancements or initiatives to improve the competition, and clarify the role of the NPL within the national competition structure and the player pathway.

Among other matters, the review will consider the NPL Finals Series including its structure and timing, the cost of youth football in the NPL, the structure of the NPL in each state, and the Player Points System."

"and to pay for the consultants to perform this review junior regos will be increased" - some asshole in the planning department probably.

[The Magician]

"and to pay for the consultants to perform this review junior regos will be increased" - some asshole in the planning department probably.

FFA levy is unchanged from 2019 to 2020.

[MFKS]

https://www.ffa.com.au/news/ffa-conduct-review-national-premier-leagues-npl-competition

"Football Federation Australia (FFA) today announced that it will conduct a review of Australia’s National Premier Leagues (NPL) competition over the coming months.

The review, which is aimed to be complete by the end of February 2020, will engage a range of key stakeholders, including but not limited to each of Australia’s Member Federations, the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC), Professional Footballers Australia (PFA), FFA’s Women’s Football Council, Football Coaches Australia (FCA), and the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association (APFCA).

The purpose of the review is to reflect on the outcomes realised since the NPL was launched in 2013, identify potential enhancements or initiatives to improve the competition, and clarify the role of the NPL within the national competition structure and the player pathway.

Among other matters, the review will consider the NPL Finals Series including its structure and timing, the cost of youth football in the NPL, the structure of the NPL in each state, and the Player Points System."

Shouldn't this be an ongoing thing anyway with tweaks being made with issues raised so no need for a review as such ?

Also why do it so it going to be until 2021 when any changes be forthcoming as Feb 2020 is gonna be too late to get them sorted for next year

[plague]

FFA levy is unchanged from 2019 to 2020.

Dude?????

[Goatscheese]

CCB with their usual end of season problems. Stay tuned for a massive fallout between the club and it's former coach.

So any word on this or was it all just a nothing statement?

[Alton]

Are Newcastle Suns aligned to Newcastle Olympic?

[Stanley]

Are Newcastle Suns aligned to Newcastle Olympic?

Both representing Newcastle, Sun's Northern Newcastle and Olympic Southern Newcastle

[Bremsstrahlung]

I thought Newcastle Suns were the Macedonian brother club to Magic.

And didn’t Hamilton Olympic rebrand themselves as Newcastle Olympic?

[Beppe]

I thought Newcastle Suns were the Macedonian brother club to Magic.

And didn’t Hamilton Olympic rebrand themselves as Newcastle Olympic?

you are correct, Alton trying to be funny

[la bazzle]

Both representing Newcastle, Sun's Northern Newcastle and Olympic Southern Newcastle

:rof::rof::rof:

[Bremsstrahlung]

you are correct, Alton trying to be funny

Wooosh.
All gone over my head. Still don’t get it.
Carry on.

[Negative Police]

Well if clubs believe they are more elite why not rise to... Wests Newcastle Jaffas, Hunter valley Magpies, South Macquarie Stags, North Macquarie Eagles

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Well if clubs believe they are more elite why not rise to... Wests Newcastle Jaffas, Hunter valley Magpies, South Macquarie Stags, North Macquarie Eagles

East Lake Macquarie Phoenix FC
Slightly South East Lake Macquarie City FC

[Stanley]

East Lake Macquarie Phoenix FC
Slightly South East Lake Macquarie City FC

What about an Edgy and Westy merger as Cameron Park Blue Eagles

[Negative Police]

Slightly South East Lake Macquarie City FC
:rof:
The Slighties