2021 Zone Premier League thread

[Lofty]

Funny story while working the afternoon shift at the balloon shop.

A bloke wearing a Mayfield polo walked in asking for balloons to spell out minor premiers.

They're obviously confident covid is going to end the regular season.

Hahahahaha. I guess when grand final wins are off the radar, minor celebrations are the way to go!

[The Hacker]

Hahahahaha. I guess when grand final wins are off the radar, minor celebrations are the way to go!

This is the only way they were winning it. They had Dudley and Suns to finish snd I don’t think they were winning both

[#fixsmithpark]

This is the only way they were winning it. They had Dudley and Suns to finish snd I don’t think they were winning both

Means stuff all to me now Azzuri have no chance but I'd like to leave this here for you. Rounds 8 and 9 make for some good reading.

https://websites.mygameday.app/team_info.cgi?c=0-8218-110083-575886-26782767&a=SFIX

[Lofty]

Means stuff all to me now Azzuri have no chance but I'd like to leave this here for you. Rounds 8 and 9 make for some good reading.

https://websites.mygameday.app/team_info.cgi?c=0-8218-110083-575886-26782767&a=SFIX

Both Dudley and Suns had a big injury list at that time. Nobody wants to win my default. Had mayfield won 6 points from the last two rounds, I would have paid for the balloons myself.

[MessiFan4]

This is the only way they were winning it. They had Dudley and Suns to finish snd I don’t think they were winning both

Didn’t they beat them both comfortably last round?

[Lofty]

Didn’t they beat them both comfortably last round?

2-1 is very comfortable, yes.

[MisplacedPasses]

Both Dudley and Suns had a big injury list at that time. Nobody wants to win my default. Had mayfield won 6 points from the last two rounds, I would have paid for the balloons myself.

Lol every team has injuries, let me guess though suns and Dudley were far worse off than everyone else?

I thought Cardiff they were going back to back if it wasn't for injuries

Poor old Dudley miss out again

[Lofty]

Lol every team has injuries, let me guess though suns and Dudley were far worse off than everyone else?

I thought Cardiff they were going back to back if it wasn't for injuries

Poor old Dudley miss out again

My point is more that mayfield could be premiers without playing Dudley and Suns for a second time. Pump up the balloons.

[terry]

Both Dudley and Suns had a big injury list at that time. Nobody wants to win my default. Had mayfield won 6 points from the last two rounds, I would have paid for the balloons myself.

lol. forever sore losers at your club. Get over yourself. You just fell short.

Just bring that F*t git with the big mouth to the gf to further embarrass you guys.

[jandysardine]

What GF

[YerMate]

lol. forever sore losers at your club. Get over yourself. You just fell short.

Just bring that F*t git with the big mouth to the gf to further embarrass you guys.

You’ll eat those words Terry. 🤣🤣🤣🤣, don’t count your chickens to early

[terry]

You’ll eat those words Terry. ��������, don’t count your chickens to early

Winning and or losing with humility is a sign of a great club and making that call is fair game.

As for who wins the GF ive made no comment.

[123]

The only way mayfield make the grand final is if all the semis are cancelled

[traffic light]

Suns will take it

[JustMe]

If Mayf stand up to the physical fight theyll knick it. If they go to water lose big

[YerMate]

lol. forever sore losers at your club. Get over yourself. You just fell short.

Just bring that F*t git with the big mouth to the gf to further embarrass you guys.

Who’s the F*t git your referring to.

[terry]

Who’s the F*t git your referring to.

Never seen him? Needs 2 shirts sewn together for a jersey. Puts himself and his mouth, sometimes with a mega, around way too much in a bad way.
Sadly coaches a youth team and it is a toxic place for a kid to be.

Thats all i have to say. Time to move on and watch Suns win the GF, they cant lose.

[#fixsmithpark]

quiet in here :brrr:

[Lofty]

quiet in here :brrr:

How was your weekend?

[The Hacker]

How was your weekend?

Boring with no last round of football.

Let’s play the game

Semis are locked in if we ever get out. Who is winning

Mayfield v Swansea

Suns v Dudley

[Lofty]

I would imagine that for any games to go ahead, they will want to give everyone a week to prepare. You would think we would need to be out of lockdown by Friday this week if the first round of finals are to be played, which isn't realistic at the moment.
The next target would be out of lockdown by Friday 3rd Sep and play one leg of finals or be out by Friday 10th and it will just be first v second in Grand finals.
That's my guess anyway.

[The Hacker]

I would imagine that for any games to go ahead, they will want to give everyone a week to prepare. You would think we would need to be out of lockdown by Friday this week if the first round of finals are to be played, which isn't realistic at the moment.
The next target would be out of lockdown by Friday 3rd Sep and play one leg of finals or be out by Friday 10th and it will just be first v second in Grand finals.
That's my guess anyway.

I think you might be on the money of a viable option

[Lofty]

I think you might be on the money of a viable option

Either way, if any games do go ahead, form will be out the window. They will very much be one-off games. Depends on who has enjoyed lockdown the most..

[The Hacker]

Either way, if any games do go ahead, form will be out the window. They will very much be one-off games. Depends on who has enjoyed lockdown the most..

Suns usually don’t come out of the gates early in the season after preseason break

[Lofty]

Suns usually don’t come out of the gates early in the season after preseason break

Exactly right. Lockdown was the worst thing that could have happened.
Firsts were on a run 6 wins and a draw. Ressies and thirds were both 9 games undefeated.
Covid is the real winner. It is what it is haha

[mefa1984]

Assuming that only GF now with 1 v 2 if we don't go for longer with the lockdown

[Johnno]

Season has been cancelled.

[Lofty]

Bullshit end to a season

[The Hacker]

Bullshit end to a season

Agreed. So what happens with relegation is it happening this year or has it been shelved

[Source]

So Mayfield win this years Covid Cup we’ll done lads

[MisplacedPasses]

So Mayfield win this years Covid Cup we’ll done lads

Heard around the traps they had ALOT unavailable for the last few weeks!

[#fixsmithpark]

Wonder if suns still had to pay their players wages even though the last few rounds weren't played.

Might be a break even season for them🤷

[Lofty]

Wonder if suns still had to pay their players wages even though the last few rounds weren't played.

Might be a break even season for them��

Yeah we all got shouted $200 bonus vouchers to use at Hexham Bowling Club. That’s on top of the weekly wage. Suns have very deep pockets.

[Jim]

robbed of another final series. ffs

[The Hacker]

robbed of another final series. ffs

So does Cooks Hill get relegated or did Covid save them

[Jim]

Any team who finished bottom should go down IF there's another team ready to go up. Played enough games.

But then again, will you make millions by going up lol.

Finally, to all the ZL lads who go out and play hard every week, we salute you, FIRE.

next year, back stronger!

[Lofty]

Any team who finished bottom should go down IF there's another team ready to go up. Played enough games.

But then again, will you make millions by going up lol.

Finally, to all the ZL lads who go out and play hard every week, we salute you, FIRE.

next year, back stronger!

I think it’s a bit stiff to go down considering how close it was and two games in hand.
Such a deflating end to what was a pretty good season.

[Homer7654]

I think it’s a bit stiff to go down considering how close it was and two games in hand.
Such a deflating end to what was a pretty good season.

First place in the lower divisions always deserve to be promoted and last place always deserves to be relegated.

[Lofty]

First place in the lower divisions always deserve to be promoted and last place always deserves to be relegated.

The season didn't finish mate. And it's not like there was a clear winner in the division below, could have been either one of two clubs had the last two games been played.

[Nou Camp]

Mini pre season tournament
Losers of cooks hill v kotara play the winners of new Lambton v merewether
Winner plays ZPL (maybe over 2 legs)

[Homer7654]

The season didn't finish mate. And it's not like there was a clear winner in the division below, could have been either one of two clubs had the last two games been played.

Two COVID draws should not prevent the premiers of the lower division being promoted. That would be cruel

[Lofty]

Two COVID draws should not prevent the premiers of the lower division being promoted. That would be cruel

Being relegated when you are just two points behind with 6 points to play for is more cruel. There wasn't even a guaranteed winner in ZL1. Could have been one of two teams.

[Johnno]

Being relegated when you are just two points behind with 6 points to play for is more cruel. There wasn't even a guaranteed winner in ZL1. Could have been one of two teams.

Talking to someone in the know today promotion and relegation will happen based on the fact the majority of season was completed and club shouldn’t be relying on results of two games.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’d be curious to know if there’s any major differences between playing ZPL or ZL1,2,3 from an administrative perspective.
- sponsorships? (I imagine most clubs have a deal with a pub/club that wouldn’t really be affected)
- players? Presuming 80% don’t get any reimbursement or very little $$, would clubs expect to lose a number of their players if relegated?
Anything else?

You’d think a team losing majority of their matches would prefer to enjoy more wins in a lower division. At least for a year, than struggle away again.
Maybe some 2 legged playoff games/round robin to begin the season.

[Macca]

I’d be curious to know if there’s any major differences between playing ZPL or ZL1,2,3 from an administrative perspective.
- sponsorships? (I imagine most clubs have a deal with a pub/club that wouldn’t really be affected)
- players? Presuming 80% don’t get any reimbursement or very little $$, would clubs expect to lose a number of their players if relegated?
Anything else?

You’d think a team losing majority of their matches would prefer to enjoy more wins in a lower division. At least for a year, than struggle away again.
Maybe some 2 legged playoff games/round robin to begin the season.

I think the biggest one is ZL1/2 where ZL1 has third grade and ZL2 does not.

[namwob99]

I think the biggest one is ZL1/2 where ZL1 has third grade and ZL2 does not.

A fair few of us in 2s have all age squads that can fill the gap.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Being relegated when you are just two points behind with 6 points to play for is more cruel. There wasn't even a guaranteed winner in ZL1. Could have been one of two teams.

I'm involved in one of those 2 Zl1 team and I actually tend to agree.
I think a full season does need to be played to have promotion and relegation. As you say, pretty cruel for a team to get relegated when they have 6 points to play for. This is a personal opinion only though, my club may feel very differently.

[Lofty]

I'm involved in one of those 2 Zl1 team and I actually tend to agree.
I think a full season does need to be played to have promotion and relegation. As you say, pretty cruel for a team to get relegated when they have 6 points to play for. This is a personal opinion only though, my club may feel very differently.

That's right. I don't play for any of the teams in the relegation battle, but you look at all years gone by and there are upsets with teams fighting to stay up and it always goes down to the last day. No one has earned the right to go up or down until all games have been played.

[Haircut]

Coming from Cooks Hill I see it both ways. I believe that the bottom team should be relegated. But i think how we calculate the bottom might be better done through Club Championship Points rather than 1st grade only. Suns get thrown a whole lot of shit about paying players but look at their performance in the lower grades. Even if you believe they paying match payments to players, which i dont, that wouldn't account for them being solid right down to the 50th man. On the other side of the equation look at Beresfield or South Kotara. Uniformly poor performance across all 3 grades for the last 2 seasons. But that's not the system we have, and We (cooks) knew that going in.

[onlooker]

Unfortunately I think the associations have made the decision without actually knowing or considering it. By announcing all the premiers for each division off the games that where played ( therefore saying these teams are promoted) how could they the go and so that last place won’t be deemed as the relegated party. ( unless they hold off promotion and relegation which would cause a stir). Look at ZL2 1&2 separated by 1 point with 3 games to go last and second last separated by 2 and had to play each other in the last game. I think by naming the premiers that then has doomed the current last place teams.

[Lofty]

I just don’t think promotion and relegation should happen this year due to the circumstances.
The only exception would be if there were clubs voluntarily wanting to do go down a division due to players numbers or something which has happened in the past.

[Jardelsimage]

I just don’t think promotion and relegation should happen this year due to the circumstances.
The only exception would be if there were clubs voluntarily wanting to do go down a division due to players numbers or something which has happened in the past.

Is that similar to not being able to field 3 grades week in, week out...

[Lofty]

Is that similar to not being able to field 3 grades week in, week out...

Well yes, maybe if you are forfeiting games, you are probably more deserving of being relegated than a club who gets three grades out every week.

[Cabaye#4]

Well yes, maybe if you are forfeiting games, you are probably more deserving of being relegated than a club who gets three grades out every week.

Let's relegate Swansea then and save everyone the trip.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Unfortunately I think the associations have made the decision without actually knowing or considering it. By announcing all the premiers for each division off the games that where played ( therefore saying these teams are promoted) how could they the go and so that last place won’t be deemed as the relegated party. ( unless they hold off promotion and relegation which would cause a stir). Look at ZL2 1&2 separated by 1 point with 3 games to go last and second last separated by 2 and had to play each other in the last game. I think by naming the premiers that then has doomed the current last place teams.

Different circumstances (to a degree) to last year but last year there was no promotion/relegation.
Both interrupted by COVID and last season premiers were named, but relegation and promotion didn't take place.
It will be interesting to see what the association decides, and someone will blow up either way.

[onlooker]

Different circumstances (to a degree) to last year but last year there was no promotion/relegation.
Both interrupted by COVID and last season premiers were named, but relegation and promotion didn't take place.
It will be interesting to see what the association decides, and someone will blow up either way.

I guess with last year, it was known at the start of the season that promotion/relegation was off the table due to the fact a number of teams had pulled out and in the lower two comps they were combined. But this year everyone went into the season with the understanding it would be in place.

But I do agree no matter what way they lean someone will be upset.

[Lofty]

I guess with last year, it was known at the start of the season that promotion/relegation was off the table due to the fact a number of teams had pulled out and in the lower two comps they were combined. But this year everyone went into the season with the understanding it would be in place.

But I do agree no matter what way they lean someone will be upset.

I think the relegated club would be more upset. None of the divisions had a guaranteed premier in first grade and none had a guaranteed last place finisher either.
Barnsley in ZL1 (lbottom by 5 points) and Lake Mac in ZL3 (First by 7 points) are the only ones that would be fair enough to be relegated or promoted.
All the other divisions, battle for first and last place are all separated by 1 or 2 points.

[onlooker]

I think the relegated club would be more upset. None of the divisions had a guaranteed premier in first grade and none had a guaranteed last place finisher either.
Barnsley in ZL1 (lbottom by 5 points) and Lake Mac in ZL3 (First by 7 points) are the only ones that would be fair enough to be relegated or promoted.
All the other divisions, battle for first and last place are all separated by 1 or 2 points.

I don’t disagree it would be rough to actually relegate anyone this season considering how close it was at the bottom. I was only bringing it up as they could easily use that as an excuse to relegate.

In the end I think the only grade a decision needs to be made on is ZPL to ZL1. ( unless someone has been struggling to field all grades.)

ZL1 only has 9 so don’t relegate anyone just add 1st from ZL2 to fill the numbers to 10 then promote 1st in ZL3 to fill the numbers in 2’s. That would keep most happy I guess..

[The Hacker]

I think the relegated club would be more upset. None of the divisions had a guaranteed premier in first grade and none had a guaranteed last place finisher either.
Barnsley in ZL1 (lbottom by 5 points) and Lake Mac in ZL3 (First by 7 points) are the only ones that would be fair enough to be relegated or promoted.
All the other divisions, battle for first and last place are all separated by 1 or 2 points.

Not often someone from Dudley will side with someone from the Suns but I do here. I think it’s very stiff for a team to be relegated with them not having the opportunity to play everyone twice. The team last may have played all the harder sides and the last 2 were softer games than second last. Comp wasn’t completed so relegation should be off the table

[Negative Police]

Nah.

Cookers, last, played the other bottom 3 teams twice.

Lost both to Wbay, lost both to Kotara, lost 1 won 1 v bero but lost of goal diff.

Send Cookers down and forget the sob story

[MisplacedPasses]

Nah.

Cookers, last, played the other bottom 3 teams twice.

Lost both to Wbay, lost both to Kotara, lost 1 won 1 v bero but lost of goal diff.

Send Cookers down and forget the sob story

ahahaha see ya!

[Negative Police]

ahahaha see ya!

cry time?

Cookers will be ok. They are all about NPL now.

[gtg]

Curious, what happens with the other clubs who pay their players? Do they get paid out for the rest of the season anyways or do payments stop? Can someone from the Suns or Bero let us know?

[MisplacedPasses]

Curious, what happens with the other clubs who pay their players? Do they get paid out for the rest of the season anyways or do payments stop? Can someone from the Suns or Bero let us know?

You trying to work out what to do about Dudley's player payments mate?? Don't ask anyone from the sun$ they've never paid a player, ever!

[Oldy]

covid payments to take over game payments

[Lofty]

Even with no football played, everyone in lockdown there's still hate being thrown around. Absolute snorefest.

[The Hacker]

Even with no football played, everyone in lockdown there's still hate being thrown around. Absolute snorefest.

As someone from Dudley I dislike the Suns as much as the next bloke but they pay a few regos like a few clubs do. It’s like 2yr old news. Let’s freshen it up

Any coaching or player moves. Any truth to Alex Kantarovski joining the Suns

[MisplacedPasses]

Any truth to Alex Kantarovski joining the Suns

Surely he'd be just playing for the shirt.

[Lofty]

Surely he'd be just playing for the shirt.

You can think what you want mate. I find all your posts entertaining, so please keep up the great work.
Kanta has hardly played at all over the last few years. He is good mates with plenty of us boys at the Suns. No matter where he chooses to play his football, all he will be worried about is actually playing, not money. Poor bloke has had a horrible run of injuries and playing games will be his first priority. He's still more than capable to earn a buck at NPL level if that's what his preference is.

[FatKeeper]

You can think what you want mate. I find all your posts entertaining, so please keep up the great work.
Kanta has hardly played at all over the last few years. He is good mates with plenty of us boys at the Suns. No matter where he chooses to play his football, all he will be worried about is actually playing, not money. Poor bloke has had a horrible run of injuries and playing games will be his first priority. He's still more than capable to earn a buck at NPL level if that's what his preference is.

Kantarovski will not be joining the suns I can 100% tell you that will be joining a new club soon in the top grade way to good of a talent to be at the suns just yet

[The Hacker]

Kantarovski will not be joining the suns I can 100% tell you that will be joining a new club soon in the top grade way to good of a talent to be at the suns just yet

I thought he’s still young enough and good enough to be valuable in NPL. Cooks Hill, Adamstown, Lakes, Valo plus a few others would be mad not to chase him. Would improve them instantly

[Cabaye#4]

On the other side of the equation look at Beresfield or South Kotara. Uniformly poor performance across all 3 grades for the last 2 seasons. But that's not the system we have, and We (cooks) knew that going in.
One, it's Kotara South.
Two, they didn't take part in the covid cup* in 2020, like dudley and Warners bay.
Prior to that, all 3 grades made the semis in 2019, 2 made the GF and 1 side won. In 2018 2 sides made semis and 1 made the GF.
Not sure if any other club has more finals games in the last 4 years.

Uniformly poor indeed.

[jim wallis]

One, it's Kotara South.
Two, they didn't take part in the covid cup* in 2020, like dudley and Warners bay.
Prior to that, all 3 grades made the semis in 2019, 2 made the GF and 1 side won. In 2018 2 sides made semis and 1 made the GF.
Not sure if any other club has more finals games in the last 4 years.
.

uh oh. Did you just correct a team name? Thats now the name, South Kotara.

Goes with Nelsons Bay, Garden Suburbs

[Haircut]

One, it's Kotara South.
Two, they didn't take part in the covid cup* in 2020, like dudley and Warners bay.
Prior to that, all 3 grades made the semis in 2019, 2 made the GF and 1 side won. In 2018 2 sides made semis and 1 made the GF.
Not sure if any other club has more finals games in the last 4 years.

Uniformly poor indeed.

I'd consider not taking part in a season a poor performance. But you are right, they probably have played more finals in the last 4 years than anyone else. The fact that there have been not finals this year or last probably helped though.

[Beeen]

uh oh. Did you just correct a team name? Thats now the name, South Kotara.

Goes with Nelsons Bay, Garden Suburbs

oi jim, get a dog up ya!

No worries, thnx m8.

[terry]

oi jim, get a dog up ya!

No worries, thnx m8.

:rof::rof: A name? Fantastic. Are you Nelsons Bay or Garden Suburbs? get a tear bucket :rof::rof:

[Jardelsimage]

FYI people.

The Joint ZFL Panel extends its best to your Club Members and wish them the safest and best through this crazy lockdown situation.

The Joint ZFL Panel, have taken in account all the possible scenarios that had an effect on the conclusion of the ZFL season; we thank you for your patience and understanding during the on/off end to the 2021 season.

The decision is to recognise Premiers, Club Champions, Golden Boot with the outcome regards P & R that there will be no Promotion nor Relegation applied for the 2022 season, each Club will be reinstated into the Division held in 2021.
In addition we have decided to hold onto Match Bonuses for 2021 and apply and financial package that your Club would have received to the Nomination Fee for your Division in 2022; any negative gap between 2022 Fee and 2021 Bonus will be invoiced to you early next year; any positive difference will be either banked into your club nominated account or held as a credit against future invoiced costs e.g. Referee Match Fees.

The ability to either present or have awards collected is an issue at this time of lock down; we will inform you of a suitable solution once we have the Medals etc, on how to collect or we can deliver near-by to assist.


All the best stay safe.



Regards,

Russell Henry
Chief Executive Officer

[The Hacker]

FYI people.

The Joint ZFL Panel extends its best to your Club Members and wish them the safest and best through this crazy lockdown situation.

The Joint ZFL Panel, have taken in account all the possible scenarios that had an effect on the conclusion of the ZFL season; we thank you for your patience and understanding during the on/off end to the 2021 season.

The decision is to recognise Premiers, Club Champions, Golden Boot with the outcome regards P & R that there will be no Promotion nor Relegation applied for the 2022 season, each Club will be reinstated into the Division held in 2021.
In addition we have decided to hold onto Match Bonuses for 2021 and apply and financial package that your Club would have received to the Nomination Fee for your Division in 2022; any negative gap between 2022 Fee and 2021 Bonus will be invoiced to you early next year; any positive difference will be either banked into your club nominated account or held as a credit against future invoiced costs e.g. Referee Match Fees.

The ability to either present or have awards collected is an issue at this time of lock down; we will inform you of a suitable solution once we have the Medals etc, on how to collect or we can deliver near-by to assist.


All the best stay safe.



Regards,

Russell Henry
Chief Executive Officer

Common sense prevailed here. Tough for the leaders of the divisions below but if the were going to go up and compete in ZPL there should be no dramas with them winning it next year

[magician]

Common sense prevailed here. Tough for the leaders of the divisions below but if the were going to go up and compete in ZPL there should be no dramas with them winning it next year

How so? Happy to announce premiers. Why doesn’t promotion and relegation happen.
No wonder football in Newcastle is a joke.

[anfield]

I agree, if your going to announce premiers then surely promotion and relegation must happen doesn't it?

Some countries such as France cancelled their 2019/2020 season due to Covid19. Teams in Ligue 1 were still promoted and relegated.

I believe some clubs will ask to be promoted or relegated. Hopefully it balances out.

[anfield]

Common sense prevailed here. Tough for the leaders of the divisions below but if the were going to go up and compete in ZPL there should be no dramas with them winning it next year

Not sure it's that easy to turn up next year and simply win it?

[Oldy]

Common sense prevailed here. Tough for the leaders of the divisions below but if the were going to go up and compete in ZPL there should be no dramas with them winning it next year

But on the other hand, promo and relo could have gone through easily and if a club felt undeserved they would bounce back the following year.

Works both ways. Anyway, did any player lose a bunch of cash for not going up? didnt think so

worst thing is missing out on the final series. no beers, no fun :sigh::sigh:

[Homer7654]

FYI people.

The Joint ZFL Panel extends its best to your Club Members and wish them the safest and best through this crazy lockdown situation.

The Joint ZFL Panel, have taken in account all the possible scenarios that had an effect on the conclusion of the ZFL season; we thank you for your patience and understanding during the on/off end to the 2021 season.

The decision is to recognise Premiers, Club Champions, Golden Boot with the outcome regards P & R that there will be no Promotion nor Relegation applied for the 2022 season, each Club will be reinstated into the Division held in 2021.
In addition we have decided to hold onto Match Bonuses for 2021 and apply and financial package that your Club would have received to the Nomination Fee for your Division in 2022; any negative gap between 2022 Fee and 2021 Bonus will be invoiced to you early next year; any positive difference will be either banked into your club nominated account or held as a credit against future invoiced costs e.g. Referee Match Fees.

The ability to either present or have awards collected is an issue at this time of lock down; we will inform you of a suitable solution once we have the Medals etc, on how to collect or we can deliver near-by to assist.


All the best stay safe.



Regards,

Russell Henry
Chief Executive Officer

This is disgraceful considering most of the season was played, all that effort put in for nothing

[anything bro]

FYI people.

The Joint ZFL Panel extends its best to your Club Members and wish them the safest and best through this crazy lockdown situation.

The Joint ZFL Panel, have taken in account all the possible scenarios that had an effect on the conclusion of the ZFL season; we thank you for your patience and understanding during the on/off end to the 2021 season.

The decision is to recognise Premiers, Club Champions, Golden Boot with the outcome regards P & R that there will be no Promotion nor Relegation applied for the 2022 season, each Club will be reinstated into the Division held in 2021.
In addition we have decided to hold onto Match Bonuses for 2021 and apply and financial package that your Club would have received to the Nomination Fee for your Division in 2022; any negative gap between 2022 Fee and 2021 Bonus will be invoiced to you early next year; any positive difference will be either banked into your club nominated account or held as a credit against future invoiced costs e.g. Referee Match Fees.

The ability to either present or have awards collected is an issue at this time of lock down; we will inform you of a suitable solution once we have the Medals etc, on how to collect or we can deliver near-by to assist.


All the best stay safe.



Regards,

Russell Henry
Chief Executive Officer



I wonder what club hits you with the lawsuit first… Competition rules are clear as day, no relegation/promotion is one thing but to not hand out the payments clubs deserve is bullocks. Have fun catching your tails here

[Homer7654]

I wonder what club hits you with the lawsuit first… Competition rules are clear as day, no relegation/promotion is one thing but to not hand out the payments clubs deserve is bullocks. Have fun catching your tails here

Lakes have been screwed over . All the wins, club championship and premierships in 1st grade and reserve grade. That’s a lot of prize money.

[The Hacker]

Not sure it's that easy to turn up next year and simply win it?

If they were going to be in ZPL and competitive they need to be winning ZL1

[anfield]

Macquarie have screwed Lakes over. All the wins, club championship and premierships in 1st grade and reserve grade. That’s a lot of prize money.

It's the joint Zone League panel, not solely Macquarie mate. No prize money for reserve grade either.

Probably best going through the official channel as opposed to the forum.

[anfield]

If they were going to be in ZPL and competitive they need to be winning ZL1

I wasn't solely talking about ZPL and ZL1. Minmi and Lakes would feel harshly done by, for them it's probably just a wasted year and another year to wait in trying to climb the zone league ladder.

[Johnno]

I wasn't solely talking about ZPL and ZL1. Minmi and Lakes would feel harshly done by, for them it's probably just a wasted year and another year to wait in trying to climb the zone league ladder.

I think they have painted themselves into a massive corner here. If you announce Premiers then the rules say Premiers are promoted. Could be an interesting few weeks/months ahead. Payments decision is poor and petty. Pay the clubs what they deserve.

[jim wallis]

I think they have painted themselves into a massive corner here. If you announce Premiers then the rules say Premiers are promoted. Could be an interesting few weeks/months ahead. Payments decision is poor and petty. Pay the clubs what they deserve.

Premiers go up?


(a) ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE (ZFL) PREMIER LEAGUE (PL) COMPETITION
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team finishes at
the bottom of the Premier League becomes liable for Relegation and the Club whose
First Grade Team finishes at the top of the League One becomes liable for Promotion.
However
the ability of the Clubs to meet Zone Premier League criteria will also be considered by the
Joint Board Panel and the Competition Administrator/Coordinator.
(b) ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE (ZFL) LEAGUE ONE, TWO, THREE COMPETITIONS
ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WOMEN’S LEAGUE ONE (L1) COMPETITIONS
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team has won the
ZFL League Two (L2) Competition Premiership MUST be promoted to ZFL League One (L1)
Competition; and the Club whose First Grade Team was last in the ZFL League One (L1)
Competition Premiership MUST be relegated to ZFL League Two (L2).
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team has won the
ZFL League Three (L3) Competition Premiership MUST be promoted to ZFL League Two
(L2)
Competition; and the Club whose First Grade Team was last in the ZFL League Two (L2)
Competition Premiership MUST be relegated to ZFL League Three (L3).
(c) ALL AGE GRADE, OVER 35 GRADE, OVER 45 GRADE, JUNIOR AGE GRADE
DIVISIONS
Except as provided in all other Regulations, the Team winning its Premiership Competition in
its Division becomes eligible for Promotion to a higher Division Competition in the following
season.
The Team finishing last in the Premiership Competition in its Division becomes liable for
Relegation to a Lower Division Competition in the following Season.
During consideration of a Team’s Promotion or Relegation, the Grading Committee shall give due
regard to the quality of each Player in the Team to ensure that the Team comprises Players of
similar quality to the previous Season.
No Premiership winning Team shall refuse to be promoted.

[jim wallis]

Plus Theres always the Covid asterisk where any call can be made

[terry]

Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team finishes at
the bottom of the Premier League becomes liable for Relegation
Plenty of areas to veer off from policy

[terry]

No Premiership winning Team shall refuse to be promoted.
:rof:

[riverboy]

Maybe the Zone League competition has become too big for these smaller affiliate associations to run properly.

Maybe it's time that the zone league competition is run by Northern NSW, makes sense given the referees are under Northern NSW.

[Jardelsimage]

Maybe the Zone League competition has become too big for these smaller affiliate associations to run properly.

Maybe it's time that the zone league competition is run by Northern NSW, makes sense given the referees are under Northern NSW.

We were run by Northern and trust me, we do not want the zone leagues run by Northern again.
Currently we are top of the tree(technically, even if it doesn't look like somedays) if we go to Northern like the comps of old we will pushed into the back ground(all the focus on NPL, womens and HIT) and be used as a bit of a cash cow, about 400k in fees etc straight up..
No promotion/relegation from the above back to zone, so why do it?
There would be no match payments etc, no borrowing of AA players to fill in the gaps, which some clubs seem to need all the time.

Maybe an email canvasing the clubs on the decisions that effect us all have been made might have been a start.
The best way is to band together at the meetings and get change through that forum, instead of this one, plenty of ideas that don't leave these pages.

It seems like no-one is liking the one that has been made so far...

[Bremsstrahlung]

Top of the list of questions to sort out is the minimum number of games needed to award premier and enforce promotion/relegation so clubs know the deal the season starts.

Could be interesting to promote premiers, or offer it, and also offer last placed teams the option to go down.
ZL3 probably the losers in that scenario though, maybe a new team or two?
Then say, okay, for 2023 we want x teams in ZPL, x in ZL1 etc. and maybe relegate 2 teams, promote 1.

Regardless of what they do, they need to make the decision at the beginning of the season, consider covid implications, consider what the majority of clubs want, and go from there. I’m a little surprised there was no consideration given to the “what if’s” after the 2020 season was affected so much.

[Alton]

Maybe the Zone League competition has become too big for these smaller affiliate associations to run properly.

Maybe it's time that the zone league competition is run by Northern NSW, makes sense given the referees are under Northern NSW.

I agree, let NNSW run it as a fair dinkum good old fashion third division

[Goatscheese]

Maybe the Zone League competition has become too big for these smaller affiliate associations to run properly.

Maybe it's time that the zone league competition is run by Northern NSW, makes sense given the referees are under Northern NSW.

If they allowed Promotion/Relegation from ZL3 to NPL it would be a good idea

[Cabaye#4]

All clubs have to nominate every season what division they want to play in, so every club has the ability to request to go down already. This is nothing new.
The only difference is the straight promotion/relegation swap will not occur now.
Even in the past we've seen premiers not go up (ie argenton folding) or additional teams going down (Terrace most recently) and then teams apply to be promoted.
I've been through the process and been promoted twice despite not being premiers.

The lack of stability of clubs in the region is a bigger concern imo. Clubs get promoted and can't sustain it beyond 2 or 3 seasons. As above, teams fold and withdraw too much. Even Uni had to amalgamate from two into one division in recent times.
Look at ZPL from the last 5 years. Uni, Terrace, Morisset, Jesmond, have all fallen by the wayside. Bero would struggle in ZL2 based on the past few seasons. This should be our strongest clubs competing in our 'Premier' competition.
I know volunteers are a big part, and players move etc, but it's a worry that 'strong' clubs can be crippled so easily in the space of a few years.

[The Hacker]

All clubs have to nominate every season what division they want to play in, so every club has the ability to request to go down already. This is nothing new.
The only difference is the straight promotion/relegation swap will not occur now.
Even in the past we've seen premiers not go up (ie argenton folding) or additional teams going down (Terrace most recently) and then teams apply to be promoted.
I've been through the process and been promoted twice despite not being premiers.

The lack of stability of clubs in the region is a bigger concern imo. Clubs get promoted and can't sustain it beyond 2 or 3 seasons. As above, teams fold and withdraw too much. Even Uni had to amalgamate from two into one division in recent times.
Look at ZPL from the last 5 years. Uni, Terrace, Morisset, Jesmond, have all fallen by the wayside. Bero would struggle in ZL2 based on the past few seasons. This should be our strongest clubs competing in our 'Premier' competition.
I know volunteers are a big part, and players move etc, but it's a worry that 'strong' clubs can be crippled so easily in the space of a few years.

All those clubs you mention except Bero have come up and bounced straight back down. Except Uni way back when none of those clubs have been strong in ZPL. I think what it shows is that the gap between ZL1 to ZPL is huge. Look at Cooks Hill one of the biggest clubs in town and they ran last. The top 6-8 clubs are consistent because they have been in the division for years have built strong cultures and have been able to add to squad with players from higher leagues cause they have seen the quality in clubs at this level and to some it’s more competitive and appealing than NEWFM

[Sausage]

Who’s this Steven cooper bloke from bero

[The Hacker]

Any coaching or player movements at any clubs

[Captain_Carl]

Any coaching or player movements at any clubs

I haven’t heard of any.

[Yesk21]

Few reports mark Wilson out coaching Dudley? Great addition

[Shere Khan]

Brad “Davo” Davies to Cardiff City FC

[The Hacker]

Few reports mark Wilson out coaching Dudley? Great addition

This is correct

[Yesk21]

This is correct

Know of any players signing there?

[The Hacker]

Know of any players signing there?

I’m sure he will attract 1 or 2

On the flip side have any left for Cardiff and to play under Davo. Will be a test on wether blokes play for the club or played for Davo

[Supersub]

Has anyone got a like to the structure of all 4 competitions yet?

[Lichael Richards]

Has anyone got a like to the structure of all 4 competitions yet?

What have you heard? nothing here.

[Jardelsimage]

Has anyone got a like to the structure of all 4 competitions yet?

ZPL 3grades x 10
ZL1 3 grades x 10
ZL2 2 grades x 8
ZL3 2 grades x 8

[Alton]

ZPL 3grades x 10
ZL1 3 grades x 10
ZL2 2 grades x 8
ZL3 2 grades x 8

Drove past your Stadia Mario, pitch looks good.

[Shere Khan]

CCFC
New field new coach.
Bring on a fresh 2022

[Jardelsimage]

Drove past your Stadia Mario, pitch looks good.

yeh, don't look to close, it is getting better.
Still needs more work, it was neglected for 3 or 4 odd years, take more than one off season to get it right i think.

[The Hacker]

CCFC
New field new coach.
Bring on a fresh 2022

New players?

[Captain_Carl]

I reckon this upcoming season will be a beauty and all I can say is there might be a few upsets on the cards.

[riverboy]

Jets vs Wanderers game off due to Covid19. If professional clubs can't keep the virus out what is the chance of it staying out of community football?? No chance.

Could affect numbers big time unless numbers dramatically reduces by February-march. Catching Covid isn't ideal but 14 days in isolation would be a killer.

[The Hacker]

Jets vs Wanderers game off due to Covid19. If professional clubs can't keep the virus out what is the chance of it staying out of community football?? No chance.

Could affect numbers big time unless numbers dramatically reduces by February-march. Catching Covid isn't ideal but 14 days in isolation would be a killer.

This rate everyone would of had it by then 🤦🏻*♂️

[Jardelsimage]

Cardiff City Football Club:
Zone Premier League.

Training starts 6:15 Tuesday 1st Feb, at Evans Park, Cardiff.
New and all existing players are welcome to come along.

All enquiries from interested players, please call
Head Coach: Brad Davies 0400 309 917
or email
cardiffcityfc2285@gmail.com
or call Andrew 0427 254 548