2022 NPL Youth thread

[YerMate]

Rumour mill - can anyone confirm or deny the rumour that the Magic 16s coach and manager being sent off last week and getting 3 weeks suspension?

whats the big deal about these 2 coaches, let them be. something must have gone completely wrong if 2 coaches are getting sent off from the same bench.

[YerMate]

I agree, Captain_Carl. the 2 guys from magic must be good the player rotation in that squad from 13s hasn't been much at all, only lost players last year as the jets took 6 players from their squad and they were still pushing for the finals. great coaches.

[BBscone]

I agree, Captain_Carl. the 2 guys from magic must be good the player rotation in that squad from 13s hasn't been much at all, only lost players last year as the jets took 6 players from their squad and they were still pushing for the finals. great coaches. The consensus seems that these two embarrassingly take their Youth football a little too seriously and certain Magic powerbrokers would prefer to see them gone. Remains to be seen.

[Lichael Richards]

whats the big deal about these 2 coaches, let them be. something must have gone completely wrong if 2 coaches are getting sent off from the same bench.

Being aholes is the main problem. We all know it. Let them be ... where they belong out of football. You're part of the cancer

[Eastwest]

^Spot on champ

[jim wallis]

Do you have anything to do with running a club? The whole system is underpinned by mainly volunteers, Making it complex and changing things too quickly can mean it can overwhelm already over worked volunteers, if you think its hard to collapse the competition then you have already very little idea of how much football is run by A. volunteers and B. People with day jobs.

I did and know how it goes down. The Youth comp is screwed beyond volunteers. I have much idea and you have none. Try again.

[KITZ]

Rumour mill - can anyone confirm or deny the rumour that the Magic 16s coach and manager being sent off last week and getting 3 weeks suspension?

They both got yellows and both were acting like turkeys. The club like others is on a warning about the the treatment of referees and they were directing their anger towards the teenage ref. They shouldn’t be giving yellows in situations like that in youth, it should be a straight red and set the standard of behaviour of what’s not acceptable.

[KITZ]

I did and know how it goes down. The Youth comp is screwed beyond volunteers. I have much idea and you have none. Try again.

:rof: :rof: :rof: :rof:

[Spell Check]

Big upset in the 14’s today. Magic 0-2 Edgy. That Magic team have been all conquering for a couple of years so kudos to Edgy. That’s a big result for them.

[Captain_Carl]

Big upset in the 14’s today. Magic 0-2 Edgy. That Magic team have been all conquering for a couple of years so kudos to Edgy. That’s a big result for them.

That’s because Edgy have an incredible assistant coach. I was praising him so much today that he unfriended me from Facebook.

[BBscone]

They both got yellows and both were acting like turkeys. The club like others is on a warning about the the treatment of referees and they were directing their anger towards the teenage ref. They shouldn’t be giving yellows in situations like that in youth, it should be a straight red and set the standard of behaviour of what’s not acceptable.I heard first hand what occured and the treatment of a young official that seems to be par for the course with these 2. If I am some fat ZL goal keeper, I am not being too critical of anyone to be fair. Both of these two losers need to be exited from local football.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Wasn’t there.

I’m curious what support these younger referees have in moments like this.
By all accounts, allegedly a common occurrence. Imo, takes a lot for younger referees to give adults cards. The intimidation factor is there.
Historically, there used to be assessors or at least a referee coordinator at most elite games. With more games and dwindling referee numbers, I’d be surprised if this still was the case.
But perhaps, enlisting an assessor to a) assess, b) provide some support c)be listed as the 4th official to be able act in a capacity to say, look this behaviour is worthy of a red card. At least at games like this where people have raised concerns re: behaviour.

As others have noted, referee respect in football is attrocious. For the reputation NRL gets, watch any game and the interactions between players and the referee are largely very respectful. Maybe a smartass comment, but any comments towards referee result in a penalty and there’s very minimal.
Same with AFL, and Rugby.
The problem in ingrained and largely due to what we see on TV, every decision is greeted by players confronting the referee, grabbing the referee, trying to deceive and trick the referee, impeding free kicks, the list goes on. Kids and adult watching see this as the standard and what they too are “entitled” to do.

I’d love for NNSW, Newcastle, HV and Macquarie to put a memo out ahead of next season to advise of a serious crackdown on dissent. It takes a consistent, unified response but I think it’s in everyone’s interest. Less dissent, referees get more respect, perhaps not as many stop reffing, more referees means better coverage, and also a larger pool allows distribution based on ability opposed to necessity.

[sapdad]

Big upset in the 14’s today. Magic 0-2 Edgy. That Magic team have been all conquering for a couple of years so kudos to Edgy. That’s a big result for them.

I know results arent ever indicator of how a team is going but Edgeworth,Jaffas and Charlestown 14s havent seemed to kept last year impressive runs going while Magic just charged ahead.Good on Edgeworth that is a great result for them.They got up in 15s and 16s too.

[BS detecor]

Big upset in the 14’s today. Magic 0-2 Edgy. That Magic team have been all conquering for a couple of years so kudos to Edgy. That’s a big result for them.

Probably do them the world of good to taste defeat. Magic park is the ultimate leveller

[Captain_Carl]

Probably do them the world of good to taste defeat. Magic park is the ultimate leveller

There is nothing level about Magic Park. The ball bobbles everywhere and looks like a cow paddock.

[Eastwest]

I’m curious what support these younger referees have in moments like this.
By all accounts, allegedly a common occurrence. Imo, takes a lot for younger referees to give adults cards. The intimidation factor is there.
Historically, there used to be assessors or at least a referee coordinator at most elite games. With more games and dwindling referee numbers, I’d be surprised if this still was the case

Its really difficult for young refs. In 13s Magic was reffing from their bench with whistling and shouting for decisions and young ref did as told.. Yes that happens occasionally but this affected the calls but at least not the result.
The 14s Edgy Magic was much better in all areas, coach's, refs, players. Well played.

[Eastwest]

There is nothing level about Magic Park. The ball bobbles everywhere and looks like a cow paddock.

Is that because theyve chosen to play more games during bad weather? If so well done for getting games on

[finzee]

NPL Yth club championship
1783

Definitely 4 maybe 5 can drop.

[sapdad]

NPL Yth club championship
1783

Definitely 4 maybe 5 can drop.

Drop 5 teams in year 1 then only bring back 4 for year 2.With 9 teams in NL1 at present are there 2 more clubs willing and able to fill out the spare spots in NL1 youth to fill out an even 24 teams?

[Spell Check]

NPL Yth club championship
1783

Definitely 4 maybe 5 can drop.

Jeez, that table doesn’t look good for Azzurri.

I said it earlier on this thread but how good are Mid Coast going? North Coast too. The honchos at Olympic and Jaffas will be miffed looking at the progress of those two in recent years.

[Aegon]

NPL Yth club championship
1783

Definitely 4 maybe 5 can drop.

It will be interesting to see where Maitland sit after the catch up games. It was only a few years ago that they were almost last across the board.
Weston have plummeted though. Surprising that such a big catchment area can only seem to support one competitive team at a time.

Olympic definitely down on expectations, Edgy dipped after the last 2 years being close to the top.

Kudos to the regional teams though.

[sapdad]

Jeez, that table doesn’t look good for Azzurri.

I said it earlier on this thread but how good are Mid Coast going? North Coast too. The honchos at Olympic and Jaffas will be miffed looking at the progress of those two in recent years.

I think there is going to be plenty of both positives and negatives if you finish 8th and stay up vs 9th and go down.Hopefully regardless of the results clubs embrace the new structure and find all the positives that come with it.NIAS 13s are doing well in NL1 this season too,id expect them long term to be just as good a challenge as Mid and Nth Coast have been so far.Its fantastic for the level of football if really good teams are fighting to get in to the top division.

[terry]

I think there is going to be plenty of both positives and negatives if you finish 8th and stay up vs 9th and go down.Hopefully regardless of the results clubs embrace the new structure and find all the positives that come with it.NIAS 13s are doing well in NL1 this season too,id expect them long term to be just as good a challenge as Mid and Nth Coast have been so far.Its fantastic for the level of football if really good teams are fighting to get in to the top division.

challenges are for all clubs. 8th has to battle to improve. 9th fighting for promotion. Some will be ok staying in tier2 being near top..

NIAS must have 4 youth grades which they currently dont

[Spell Check]

I think there is going to be plenty of both positives and negatives if you finish 8th and stay up vs 9th and go down.Hopefully regardless of the results clubs embrace the new structure and find all the positives that come with it.NIAS 13s are doing well in NL1 this season too,id expect them long term to be just as good a challenge as Mid and Nth Coast have been so far.Its fantastic for the level of football if really good teams are fighting to get in to the top division.

Serious question and no offence meant to Blues out there: but what can Azzurri do to turn things around? 1st grade are going good, but ressies/18s/youth are struggling across the board and have been for a long time. The club is in a good location, good ground, and there is $$ around the club, so what is holding them back?

[sapdad]

Serious question and no offence meant to Blues out there: but what can Azzurri do to turn things around? 1st grade are going good, but ressies/18s/youth are struggling across the board and have been for a long time. The club is in a good location, good ground, and there is $$ around the club, so what is holding them back?

I actually think Charlestown has done a good job of turning things around already.Their 14s and 13s are good and improving and they have a good crop of JDL kids coming through.Their TDs are doing just as good a job of who they dont want at the club as they are in recruiting new blood.I think Valo and Charlestown are the next 2 clubs to climb up the youth standings over the next few years.Adamstown and Lakes have initiated a similar rebuild but are a few years behind.Cooks Hill look to be starting a big reset from next year which will take time but if done right will set them on a similar path.Whether Charlestown or Valo are playing 1/2 year in Div 1 and half year in Div 2 wont matter much,They have good plans in place and i think they will be fine.

[Spell Check]

I actually think Charlestown has done a good job of turning things around already.Their 14s and 13s are good and improving and they have a good crop of JDL kids coming through.Their TDs are doing just as good a job of who they dont want at the club as they are in recruiting new blood.I think Valo and Charlestown are the next 2 clubs to climb up the youth standings over the next few years.Adamstown and Lakes have initiated a similar rebuild but are a few years behind.Cooks Hill look to be starting a big reset from next year which will take time but if done right will set them on a similar path.Whether Charlestown or Valo are playing 1/2 year in Div 1 and half year in Div 2 wont matter much,They have good plans in place and i think they will be fine.

Having only seen the 13's and 14's once this season and they weren't great, I'll reserve judgement and take your more knowledgeable word that they are improving. It's good to hear you say things are on the up. I agree that Valo are on the up - I was impressed when I saw their 13's and 14's.

I don't know much of JDL but will their good crop stick around or seek out pastures new if the decoupling happens and parents don't like what they see? TBC I guess. Let's hope they stay the course.

[Jim]

I actually think Charlestown has done a good job of turning things around already.Their 14s and 13s are good and improving and they have a good crop of JDL kids coming through.Their TDs are doing just as good a job of who they dont want at the club as they are in recruiting new blood.I think Valo and Charlestown are the next 2 clubs to climb up the youth standings over the next few years.Adamstown and Lakes have initiated a similar rebuild but are a few years behind.Cooks Hill look to be starting a big reset from next year which will take time but if done right will set them on a similar path.Whether Charlestown or Valo are playing 1/2 year in Div 1 and half year in Div 2 wont matter much,They have good plans in place and i think they will be fine.

I think they need to drop.
They do have good development policies as you mentioned but until they can show their quality its down for them.
Its the same for every club, no favourites or patronising, they'll bounce up when and if they get their act together not attempt to.

[sapdad]

Having only seen the 13's and 14's once this season and they weren't great, I'll reserve judgement and take your more knowledgeable word that they are improving. It's good to hear you say things are on the up. I agree that Valo are on the up - I was impressed when I saw their 13's and 14's.

I don't know much of JDL but will their good crop stick around or seek out pastures new if the decoupling happens and parents don't like what they see? TBC I guess. Let's hope they stay the course.

Id be shocked if a few of the Charlestown kids in 12s dont make a good case for Jets selection in 13s.With Valo and Charlestown,its more about how they try and play and how they are coached rather than results so far.Make no mistake they are not at the level of the best teams but with the way they play by the time they hit 16s and push for senior football they will have some really good kids coming through.If parents walk away from those types of clubs because they have to play 1/2 a season against the lower tier id guarantee those kids wont ever make it to seniors anyway no matter where they go.

[sapdad]

I think they need to drop.
They do have good development policies as you mentioned but until they can show their quality its down for them.
Its the same for every club, no favourites or patronising, they'll bounce up when and if they get their act together not attempt to.

I dont disagree,im just hoping clubs/players and parents embrace the change.Its clear who the best teams are and they deserve it.I just like what some of the lower clubs are doing long term.If they keep it up they will be end up permanently in the top division in no time.

[Captain_Carl]

Now that we are into the second half of the youth comp I thought I might reflect on current standings and predict the winners. The U13s comp is seeing quite the battle for top spot with Jaffas, Mid Coast and Magic all battling it out. In U14s all teams have discovered that Magic are only human and now they have finally had a loss it will be interesting to see how they bounce back. North Coast and Mid Coast also vying for top spot. In the U15s comp there is only 4 points on the ladder separating 2nd and 8th spots. Apart from Olympic way out in front the race for the other 3 finals spots is wide open. U16s is also another interesting battle for top spot with 5 teams in contention, Maitland looking the best with games in hand. So who do I believe will win the minor premiership in each age group?

13s - Magic
14s - Magic
15s - Olympic
16s - Maitland

What does everyone else think?

[Hunter403]

Now that we are into the second half of the youth comp I thought I might reflect on current standings and predict the winners. The U13s comp is seeing quite the battle for top spot with Jaffas, Mid Coast and Magic all battling it out. In U14s all teams have discovered that Magic are only human and now they have finally had a loss it will be interesting to see how they bounce back. North Coast and Mid Coast also vying for top spot. In the U15s comp there is only 4 points on the ladder separating 2nd and 8th spots. Apart from Olympic way out in front the race for the other 3 finals spots is wide open. U16s is also another interesting battle for top spot with 5 teams in contention, Maitland looking the best with games in hand. So who do I believe will win the minor premiership in each age group?

13s - Magic
14s - Magic
15s - Olympic
16s - Maitland

What does everyone else think?

I think it is a development league and who comes first should be irrelevant to all but the kids. What matters is player improvement.

[Captain_Carl]

I think it is a development league and who comes first should be irrelevant to all but the kids. What matters is player improvement.

You are obviously involved with one of the lower placed teams. If winning isn’t important why do they keep a ladder buddy?

[finzee]

Weston took 7pts to 4 off Edgy today. Weston winning 14s 16s Edgy 15s. geez

[sapdad]

You are obviously involved with one of the lower placed teams. If winning isn’t important why do they keep a ladder buddy?

I dont think it needs to be either/or.We should be able to congratulate the winners and also celebrate the teams that are improving and playing good football.Its the reason why theres positive feedback on here for the likes of Valo and Charlestown as well as Magic and Mid Coast.Spread the love Captain Carl theres plenty to go around.

[finzee]

I dont think it needs to be either/or.We should be able to congratulate the winners and also celebrate the teams that are improving and playing good football.Its the reason why theres positive feedback on here for the likes of Valo and Charlestown as well as Magic and Mid Coast.Spread the love Captain Carl theres plenty to go around.

Thats just Carl. Chest beater amongst other things. ignore.

[Hunter403]

You are obviously involved with one of the lower placed teams. If winning isn’t important why do they keep a ladder buddy?

Nah, the last NPL Youth team I coached won the premiership. Great for the boys and their families but what was better and far more important was how they had improved. Unless you are a player or a parent, that should be what matters as we should be trying to improve the standard of football, not worrying about who wins a pissant local kids comp.
I don't coach NPL youth these days.

[BS detecor]

Nah, the last NPL Youth team I coached won the premiership. Great for the boys and their families but what was better and far more important was how they had improved. Unless you are a player or a parent, that should be what matters as we should be trying to improve the standard of football, not worrying about who wins a pissant local kids comp.
I don't coach NPL youth these days.

I agree. Now we can sit back and see which games get washed out with the new second draw system in place

[KITZ]

Nah, the last NPL Youth team I coached won the premiership. Great for the boys and their families but what was better and far more important was how they had improved. Unless you are a player or a parent, that should be what matters as we should be trying to improve the standard of football, not worrying about who wins a pissant local kids comp.
I don't coach NPL youth these days.

maybe its best you aren't in this forum either if you are calling our youth pissants. find somewhere else to spread your gross opinion of kids.

[KITZ]

Weston took 7pts to 4 off Edgy today. Weston winning 14s 16s Edgy 15s. geez

I'm not sure Weston at least in the 16s are playing good football. I'd give them the premiership for playing rugby on a football field though. Can't speak for all their games but the one I watched was terrible football, the players would be a liability to the club in a senior team with more experienced referees. I hope it can be coached out of them though because if that's the standard moving into 18s I see them playing with 10 or less for quite a few games.

[finzee]

I'm not sure Weston at least in the 16s are playing good football. I'd give them the premiership for playing rugby on a football field though. Can't speak for all their games but the one I watched was terrible football, the players would be a liability to the club in a senior team with more experienced referees. I hope it can be coached out of them though because if that's the standard moving into 18s I see them playing with 10 or less for quite a few games.

I didnt see the games but there had to of been some thuggery to reverse that form. Little bit clever actually.

[Hunter403]

maybe its best you aren't in this forum either if you are calling our youth pissants. find somewhere else to spread your gross opinion of kids.

Not the kids, dopey. The competition.

[Take it easy]

I just find it laughable that we still have people belting the development angle and it doesn’t matter about winning or results.

Let’s face it clubs put KPIs on TDs to get results, once you’re in NPL land especially 14-16s results matter to the Kids, coaches and the Club.

If we’re not trying to win matches and develop winning mentality as part of a kids development are we just trying to develop our O35s competition because that’s the only time you hear people stop talking about development being the aim.

The top kids by 16s have been IDd and moved on into the relevant pathways. The rest are aiming for NPL locally

[Captain_Carl]

I just find it laughable that we still have people belting the development angle and it doesn’t matter about winning or results.

Let’s face it clubs put KPIs on TDs to get results, once you’re in NPL land especially 14-16s results matter to the Kids, coaches and the Club.

If we’re not trying to win matches and develop winning mentality as part of a kids development are we just trying to develop our O35s competition because that’s the only time you hear people stop talking about development being the aim.

The top kids by 16s have been IDd and moved on into the relevant pathways. The rest are aiming for NPL locally

Spot on. It seems that to some you have to choose between development and winning. Winning is not a crime. It is the preferred outcome for all who play the game. This is why teams sing a victory song … not a development song.

[BS detecor]

I just find it laughable that we still have people belting the development angle and it doesn’t matter about winning or results.

Let’s face it clubs put KPIs on TDs to get results, once you’re in NPL land especially 14-16s results matter to the Kids, coaches and the Club.

If we’re not trying to win matches and develop winning mentality as part of a kids development are we just trying to develop our O35s competition because that’s the only time you hear people stop talking about development being the aim.

The top kids by 16s have been IDd and moved on into the relevant pathways. The rest are aiming for NPL locally

I can’t believe people still miss the point about what development is. Of course every team goes out with the intention of winning the game. The difference is coaches who are solely focused on the result versus coaches who are trying to improve the skill level of the kids they are coaching. Both are trying to win. No kid has ever been IDd because their team won a game.

[JustMe]

I just find it laughable that we still have people belting the development angle and it doesn’t matter about winning or results.

Let’s face it clubs put KPIs on TDs to get results, once you’re in NPL land especially 14-16s results matter to the Kids, coaches and the Club.

If we’re not trying to win matches and develop winning mentality as part of a kids development are we just trying to develop our O35s competition because that’s the only time you hear people stop talking about development being the aim.

The top kids by 16s have been IDd and moved on into the relevant pathways. The rest are aiming for NPL locally

FMD. This is just stupid.

We've had 10 pages of saying why theres no fkg devolopment because on LOPSIDED games and results are just a part of that. Not only are kids not developing becuase of 10-0 wins and losses but they are not enjoying the game and leaving.

We need the 3 tiers just to stay competitive. Then the kids can develop on their terms at their level. Kids in NPL 1, 2, 3 are much more competitive due to separating abilities on the whole.

[JustMe]

I can’t believe people still miss the point about what development is. Of course every team goes out with the intention of winning the game.

Nuh. many teams dont go out to win. They go out to reduce the loss because the comp is a joke.

Adamstown, cookers, Lake mac are deluded if they are going out to win v the top 4. They know it, parents know it, coaches know it.
We use the lie of "development" to take the cash. truth.

[sapdad]

Nuh. many teams dont go out to win. They go out to reduce the loss because the comp is a joke.

Adamstown, cookers, Lake mac are deluded if they are going out to win v the top 4. They know it, parents know it, coaches know it.
We use the lie of "development" to take the cash. truth.

You can add Charlestown,Valentine,Edgeworth and Weston to that list as well in most youth grades.Its clear from the talk from some clubs that the results in 13s and 14s are minor compared to the bigger picture of breeding competitive 18s and up squads.Those squads start getting built somewhere,you dont just hold trials for 18s and these magical players appear out of nowhere.Its either that or continually recycle ex-NPL and A-League players in a never ending battle of the chequebooks.Which do you prefer?The fact is change is coming to the youth program and we should all just give it a go before slagging off the comp as a joke time after time.

[sapdad]

Just for clarity,in 13s this year teams sitting 5th and 6th on the ladder at the moment (Olympic and Edgeworth) have taken a total of ZERO points combined in matches against the top 4.But i guarantee you theres plenty of potential senior grade players in those 2 squads.

[traffic light]

You can add Charlestown,Valentine,Edgeworth and Weston to that list as well in most youth grades.Its clear from the talk from some clubs that the results in 13s and 14s are minor compared to the bigger picture of breeding competitive 18s and up squads.Those squads start getting built somewhere,you dont just hold trials for 18s and these magical players appear out of nowhere.Its either that or continually recycle ex-NPL and A-League players in a never ending battle of the chequebooks.Which do you prefer?The fact is change is coming to the youth program and we should all just give it a go before slagging off the comp as a joke time after time.

The current comp was the joke not the new changes.

[traffic light]

Just for clarity,in 13s this year teams sitting 5th and 6th on the ladder at the moment (Olympic and Edgeworth) have taken a total of ZERO points combined in matches against the top 4.But i guarantee you theres plenty of potential senior grade players in those 2 squads.

Exactly. So having 8 teams would further strengthen 5th to 8th and so competing with the top 4. lightbulb moment.

[Retired01]

Just for clarity,in 13s this year teams sitting 5th and 6th on the ladder at the moment (Olympic and Edgeworth) have taken a total of ZERO points combined in matches against the top 4.But i guarantee you theres plenty of potential senior grade players in those 2 squads.

Must not be to good at Olympic as last years coaches are back on their bench. I was at the game on the weekend and they have resorted to kicking long balls and that is not how Olympic teams have played over the last few years.

[sapdad]

Must not be to good at Olympic as last years coaches are back on their bench. I was at the game on the weekend and they have resorted to kicking long balls and that is not how Olympic teams have played over the last few years.

The biggest issue is that Olympic,Maitland and Magic all lost the most amount of talent to the Jets in 13's.All 3 of those clubs were at the top tier of JDL but now need to rebuild in a really short space of time.Magic managed it but the other two have suffered.Id say over time they will be fine but it is a massive reason why clubs shouldnt be solely judged on results (not saying you are,but others have).I applaud the clubs for understanding the situation and working towards a solution.

[Oldy]

The biggest issue is that Olympic,Maitland and Magic all lost the most amount of talent to the Jets in 13's.All 3 of those clubs were at the top tier of JDL but now need to rebuild in a really short space of time.Magic managed it but the other two have suffered.Id say over time they will be fine but it is a massive reason why clubs shouldnt be solely judged on results (not saying you are,but others have).I applaud the clubs for understanding the situation and working towards a solution.

Magic have an aggressive recruitment policy and replace quality as quick as they leave. It appears Olympic has missed the boat on there replacements.
RH currently Jaffas has a similar recruitment style to Magic, Pretty sure he coached the latter at some point.
And Maitland, well they are the the premier Hunter Youth club to be at which leaves Weston in the dog house.

Why has Maitland improved so much in the last couple years?

[terry]

The original proposal was as per the below - although it may have changed since:

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2023
Mid 2023
2024
Mid 2024


Youth Division 1
Youth League A
Youth Division 1
Youth League A


NPL club 1
Division 1 1st
League A 1st
Division 1 1st


NPL club 2
Division 1 2nd
League A 2nd
Division 1 2nd


NPL club 3
Division 1 3rd
League A 3rd
Division 1 3rd


NPL club 4
Division 1 4th
League A 4th
Division 1 4th


NPL club 5
Division 1 5th
League A 5th
Division 1 5th


NPL club 6
Division 1 6th
League A 6th
Division 1 6th


NPL club 7
Division 1 7th
League A 7th
Division 1 7th


NPL club 8
Division 1 8th
League A 8th
Division 1 8th


NPL club 9
Youth League B
League B 1st
Youth League B


NPL club 10
Division 1 9th
League B 2nd
Division 1 9th


NPL club 11
Division 1 10th
League B 3rd
Division 1 10th


NPL club 12
Division 1 11th
League B 4th
Division 1 11th


NPL club 13
Division 1 12th
Youth Division 2
Division 1 12th


Youth Division 2
Division 1 13th
League B 5th
Division 2 1st


NL club 1
Division 2 1st
League B 6th
Division 2 2nd


NL club 2
Division 2 2nd
League B 7th
Division 2 3rd


NL club 3
Division 2 3rd
League B 8th
Division 2 4th


NL club 4
Youth League C
League C 1st
Youth League C


NL club 5
Division 2 4th
League C 2nd
Division 2 5th


NL club 6
Division 2 5th
League C 3rd
Division 2 6th


NL club 7
Division 2 6th
League C 4th
[Division 2 7th


NL club 8
Division 2 7th
League C 5th
Division 2 8th


NL club 9
Division 2 8th
League C 6th
Division 2 9th


NL club 10
Division 2 9th
League C 7th
Division 2 10th


NL club 11
Division 2 10th
League C 8th
Division 2 11th



Division 2 11th

Division 2 12th



So on and so forth

The flaw in this system is the top NL1 team doesnt get a crack at the top NPL

[KITZ]

The flaw in this system is the top NL1 team doesnt get a crack at the top NPL

Yes they do. If they are in the top 4 youth league b from mid season. If they don’t do that then they shouldn’t be playing them. But I can already tell you how that will go. They will cop a flogging and the game will resort to bad tackles and unnecessary injuries. There’s a reason they weren’t grouped together for the youth cup last year.

[sapdad]

The flaw in this system is the top NL1 team doesnt get a crack at the top NPL

Pointless in year one anyway.For all the chest beating by some NL is nowhere near Magic.Next year onwards they will get a crack at the next level up from them(Charlestown/Valo),then following on they will see what its like taking on the top tier of NPL.They arent ready yet,so the kids just need to work their way up.To be completely fair a lot of people inside the club know it too.

[sapdad]

Magic have an aggressive recruitment policy and replace quality as quick as they leave. It appears Olympic has missed the boat on there replacements.
RH currently Jaffas has a similar recruitment style to Magic, Pretty sure he coached the latter at some point.
And Maitland, well they are the the premier Hunter Youth club to be at which leaves Weston in the dog house.

Why has Maitland improved so much in the last couple years?

I think Magics 13s dont have too many new kids they had 2 quality JDL sides.Having kids already there makes a huge difference in year 1 from a teamwork perspective alone.Its no secret how RH runs the show at Jaffas and in his defence he can only offer the spot,its up to the kid and parents to go there.Once they are there then whatever happens is on them and they should all by now be aware how things are done over there.But his 13s are doing really well so good for them.Maitland had a reputation through JDL of having big physical kids but i give them way more credit than that.If you see their team this year theres as many midgets running around as there are giants.Once again it will take time for their teamwork to come together but im sure it will.Its a good comparison to Weston.I think their football is very different and definitely prefer Maitlands approach for long term success.No idea if theres new coaching or tds in place up there but they are in a very strong position going forward.

[Goatscheese]

Yes they do. If they are in the top 4 youth league b from mid season. If they don’t do that then they shouldn’t be playing them. But I can already tell you how that will go. They will cop a flogging and the game will resort to bad tackles and unnecessary injuries. There’s a reason they weren’t grouped together for the youth cup last year.

They were grouped with the lower NPL teams in the up last year and got wins as well.

[sapdad]

They were grouped with the lower NPL teams in the up last year and got wins as well.

I think thats the point everyone is making though.NL will be put with the lower NPL teams from next year.If they get the results that the club believes are coming,then they will get a crack at the top NPL the following season.

[KITZ]

They were grouped with the lower NPL teams in the up last year and got wins as well.

OP mentioned “top teams” they weren’t grouped with anyone inside the top 8 from what I remember. Yes they were at times competitive in the lower half but not to the point where I think they’d even make a dent playing against at least the top 4-6.

[terry]

So an NL1 club finishes top of NL1 (club championship) at halfway point so they go into the 2nd 8 tier for 2nd part of season. fair enough.

If they finish 1st or 2nd by club championship in that middle tier do they start the NPL 12 next year?

That's how it should be.

[BS detecor]

So an NL1 club finishes top of NL1 (club championship) at halfway point so they go into the 2nd 8 tier for 2nd part of season. fair enough.

If they finish 1st or 2nd by club championship in that middle tier do they start the NPL 12 next year?

That's how it should be.

Top 4

[Goatscheese]

OP mentioned “top teams” they weren’t grouped with anyone inside the top 8 from what I remember. Yes they were at times competitive in the lower half but not to the point where I think they’d even make a dent playing against at least the top 4-6.

Neither do the bottom NPL teams though

[KITZ]

Neither do the bottom NPL teams though

Yup, which is what will make promotion and relegation interesting. At the moment there’s players who have come out of NPL and aren’t interested in competing at that level once they have a go at it - and it only gets faster and harder as they get older.

So in that sense will they continue playing football if pushed out of their comfort zone or have to continually move to a team that sits where they are comfortable playing.

the top of NPL will be right, but I also think that the majority of clubs have shown reasonable concern about the fallout in that space that will be continually shifting. If the bottom of the table are around the same as the top of NL1 there’s going to be a lot of movement in that space for possibly little payoff. If one club has an off year (maybe like olympic who looks like they have lost a lot of players in the younger groups) a demotion for their youth could cripple their club for years to come including players feeding their first grade team. A lot of clubs especially since covid have realised they need to have a sustainable balance of their playing pool.

I dont have the answers but can see why there’s concern there. I still do wonder if they went out across a broad range of clubs and actually brought this to the youth players instead of clubs and parents what sort of responses they would get. They are the ones playing after all and most of them are pretty switched on.

*id also suggest if losing players to the jets could cripple a club in the youth space, does that mean clubs become actively against promoting their players into a higher pathway as well?
Guess we will see what happens soon!

[terry]

(maybe like olympic who looks like they have lost a lot of players in the younger groups) a demotion for their youth could cripple their club for years to come including players feeding their first grade team.

Generally, the hysteria about clubs moving is infantile. No club is being crippled due to relegation. They stay down due to poor management.

The biggest downer is the cheast beating which cant be had but that's up to the club to get over.
And if "insert club name here" isnt the top then some other clubs will be just like they were 20 40 60 years ago. It's cyclical.

How about we stick the badge for a minute and concentrate on skilling up generally.

[BS detecor]

I agree. For once can we forget about hurting a clubs feelings and do what’s best for the sport.

[jim wallis]

With the rain coming in Jaffas a big chance to have 0-0 draws with Cooks H.

[BS detecor]

With the rain coming in Jaffas a big chance to have 0-0 draws with Cooks H.

Interesting to see how desperate they are to play it after washing out the round with magic 24hrs before kick off

[fozphantom]

With the rain coming in Jaffas a big chance to have 0-0 draws with Cooks H.


Interesting to see how desperate they are to play it after washing out the round with magic 24hrs before kick off

As i understand it, no yoof games if washed out second round will be replayed. [see jim wallis]
there's some that will miss opportunities
eg Maitland [bye]

edgie have gone to LMRFF v nth coast
If its just coastal, weston might get on v valo.
mid coast[@ Port] v Magic? - 2-6mill fri, 15-25 sat + 10-30 sun. yeah, nah.


If some don't get washed out, that's when things will get pissy.

[BS detecor]

As i understand it, no yoof games if washed out second round will be replayed. [see jim wallis]
there's some that will miss opportunities
eg Maitland [bye]

edgie have gone to LMRFF v nth coast
If its just coastal, weston might get on v valo.
mid coast[@ Port] v Magic? - 2-6mill fri, 15-25 sat + 10-30 sun. yeah, nah.



If some don't get washed out, that's when things will get pissy.

North coast always play at LMRFF.
Draws will be common for the rest of the year, I think next week is a wet one too
Hopefully it will push clubs to look at all weather pitches in the future, just like north coast did

[Goatscheese]

Hopefully it will push clubs to look at all weather pitches in the future, just like north coast did

Probably fine for North Coast when it is a full sporting complex. Bit hard for clubs when there are other parties not wanting all weather including councils since they own all the grounds used. That's before cost comes into play

[BS detecor]

Probably fine for North Coast when it is a full sporting complex. Bit hard for clubs when there are other parties not wanting all weather including councils since they own all the grounds used. That's before cost comes into play

That’s the newy mentality we know and love. Keep the fig trees, leave the heavy rail, don’t tear down the big dick, it’s all too hard. Meanwhile other areas just getting it done and reaping the benefits

[sapdad]

As i understand it, no yoof games if washed out second round will be replayed. [see jim wallis]
there's some that will miss opportunities
eg Maitland [bye]

edgie have gone to LMRFF v nth coast
If its just coastal, weston might get on v valo.
mid coast[@ Port] v Magic? - 2-6mill fri, 15-25 sat + 10-30 sun. yeah, nah.


If some don't get washed out, that's when things will get pissy.

When some clubs start hearing about a gentle bending of the rule already happening it might make them even more upset.Mid Coast have used a backup all weather facility in Forster so Magic should get their game on.Its been interesting already hearing some kids/parents/clubs happy to get a point from a washout vs some others more than happy to reschedule knowing they are going to lose but wanting to get the kids on the park.Another results vs development argument I suppose.

[jim wallis]

Probably fine for North Coast when it is a full sporting complex. Bit hard for clubs when there are other parties not wanting all weather including councils since they own all the grounds used. That's before cost comes into play

Our council doesnt want Synth pitches? Well time to turf them out.

Newcastle needs an all weather pitch. Its just embarrassing for our pissant town

[Eastwest]

When some clubs start hearing about a gentle bending of the rule already happening.

Whats going on here then?

[finzee]

Latest Youth championship standings. Not even sure it's a thing but shows club strengths/weakness
1788

[Captain_Carl]

When some clubs start hearing about a gentle bending of the rule already happening it might make them even more upset.Mid Coast have used a backup all weather facility in Forster so Magic should get their game on.Its been interesting already hearing some kids/parents/clubs happy to get a point from a washout vs some others more than happy to reschedule knowing they are going to lose but wanting to get the kids on the park.Another results vs development argument I suppose.

There is no all weather facility in Forster. That town is going to get a drenching like everywhere else. Those games will be off for sure.

[sapdad]

There is no all weather facility in Forster. That town is going to get a drenching like everywhere else. Those games will be off for sure.

Sorry Carl that is my mistake.Thanks for the clarification.

[KITZ]

Latest Youth championship standings. Not even sure it's a thing but shows club strengths/weakness
1788

Maitland 16s finally cracked double digits in rescheduled games last night.

[finzee]

Maitland 16s finally cracked double digits in rescheduled games last night.
Edgy 13s 1 v 4 Maitland
Edgy 14s 1 v 0 Maitland
Edgy 16s 0 v 1 Maitland
will update when some other games are eventually played.

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.

Yes all grass games will be easily off. Azzurri at LCarr so wont play that

[KITZ]

Edgy 13s 1 v 4 Maitland
Edgy 14s 1 v 0 Maitland
Edgy 16s 0 v 1 Maitland
will update when some other games are eventually played.

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.

Yes all grass games will be easily off. Azzurri at LCarr so wont play that

15s was 1 all
16s was Maitland 3-2. 1 nil looks better for a clean sheet tho. Lol

Going to be a long wet week. Again.

[Captain_Carl]

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.

Yes all grass games will be easily off. Azzurri at LCarr so wont play that[/QUOTE]


My good mate at Jaffas has relocated their games against last placed Cooks Hill to sandy Stockton. Why didn’t he do this a couple of weeks ago when they were supposed to host Magic 🤔😉

[Spell Check]

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.

Yes all grass games will be easily off. Azzurri at LCarr so wont play that


My good mate at Jaffas has relocated their games against last placed Cooks Hill to sandy Stockton. Why didn’t he do this a couple of weeks ago when they were supposed to host Magic 🤔😉[/QUOTE]

There isn’t another TD in town who plays the game as well your good mate at Jaffas. From top to bottom, from recruitment to organisation to getting the games played you want to at the right times, he’s light years ahead of the rest. Love him or hate him you’ve got to respect him.

[Spell Check]

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.


Rosebuds youth weren’t set to play until Sunday. We know it’s going to rain but to call it on Friday after less than torrential fall speaks to perhaps a different agenda.

I love the Buds but the noises from the parents this season suggests things are worse than they have been in many years. Let’s hope things change soon.

[The Hacker]

Rosebuds youth weren’t set to play until Sunday. We know it’s going to rain but to call it on Friday after less than torrential fall speaks to perhaps a different agenda.

I love the Buds but the noises from the parents this season suggests things are worse than they have been in many years. Let’s hope things change soon.

No games will get on. Maybe let families start the school hols earlier. Why waste everyone’s time. Plus the grounds prob still rooted from the Maitland game that lasted 30 min and chewed it up

[Reds Forever]

No games will get on. Maybe let families start the school hols earlier. Why waste everyone’s time. Plus the grounds prob still rooted from the Maitland game that lasted 30 min and chewed it up

Agree. Northern needed to show leadership and call whole round off like they did in round 1. Issue now is that some clubs are willing to get games on and willing to rent fields at LMRFF or move to sand based games where others are happy to take the 1 point. Throw in fact that North Coast will never get washed out causes issues as well.

You simply can't run a points based ladder where some teams are able to play and some aren't.

[BS detecor]

Agree. Northern needed to show leadership and call whole round off like they did in round 1. Issue now is that some clubs are willing to get games on and willing to rent fields at LMRFF or move to sand based games where others are happy to take the 1 point. Throw in fact that North Coast will never get washed out causes issues as well.

You simply can't run a points based ladder where some teams are able to play and some aren't.

And already it seems that some clubs have moved to sand based grounds based on the opposition

[The Hacker]

Agree. Northern needed to show leadership and call whole round off like they did in round 1. Issue now is that some clubs are willing to get games on and willing to rent fields at LMRFF or move to sand based games where others are happy to take the 1 point. Throw in fact that North Coast will never get washed out causes issues as well.

You simply can't run a points based ladder where some teams are able to play and some aren't.

For what it’s worth I think all games should be made up. Most teams have caught up by now surely

[Spell Check]

Agree. Northern needed to show leadership and call whole round off like they did in round 1. Issue now is that some clubs are willing to get games on and willing to rent fields at LMRFF or move to sand based games where others are happy to take the 1 point. Throw in fact that North Coast will never get washed out causes issues as well.

You simply can't run a points based ladder where some teams are able to play and some aren't.

How can you have a comp which allows some to rent a game at Speers Point to get the points and then have other clubs in the hands of the host who might not fancy playing? It’s a joke.

If one plays at Speers Point on a wet weekend, all play at Speers Point. Start games early, play games late, use the school holidays to catch up. Is it that hard seriously?

[KITZ]

No games will get on. Maybe let families start the school hols earlier. Why waste everyone’s time. Plus the grounds prob still rooted from the Maitland game that lasted 30 min and chewed it up

There was 2 full games on that pitch before first grade played that day.

[Spell Check]

And already it seems that some clubs have moved to sand based grounds based on the opposition

Stocko FB saying they have their first wash out in two years this weekend, so maybe the sandy ground route isn’t the way to go either.

Come on Northern - step in and do your job. The whole point of Speers Point is for weekends like this surely

[KITZ]

How can you have a comp which allows some to rent a game at Speers Point to get the points and then have other clubs in the hands of the host who might not fancy playing? It’s a joke.

If one plays at Speers Point on a wet weekend, all play at Speers Point. Start games early, play games late, use the school holidays to catch up. Is it that hard seriously?

Couldn’t agree more with this. Clubs shouldn’t be able to individually book speers for competition games. If one clubs gets one it should be an expectation that all should be booked into the facility. They won’t all get on the same weekend but some teams are having to play games Saturday and Sunday the same weekend to catch up. I mean how does that work for a balanced comp?? Going to be a lot of annoyed people with 1 point washouts this weekend!

[KITZ]

Stocko FB saying they have their first wash out in two years this weekend, so maybe the sandy ground route isn’t the way to go either.

Come on Northern - step in and do your job. The whole point of Speers Point is for weekends like this surely

The problem is now other than north coast using it and JDL it’s also the home ground for the boys and girls jets teams.

[Spell Check]

Couldn’t agree more with this. Clubs shouldn’t be able to individually book speers for competition games. If one clubs gets one it should be an expectation that all should be booked into the facility. They won’t all get on the same weekend but some teams are having to play games Saturday and Sunday the same weekend to catch up. I mean how does that work for a balanced comp?? Going to be a lot of annoyed people with 1 point washouts this weekend!

When some clubs have low single digit points all season, a 0-0 draw and not having to go through the inevitable is a good result.

[Spell Check]

The problem is now other than north coast using it and JDL it’s also the home ground for the boys and girls jets teams.

For sure, but that shouldn’t stop a few 8 o’clock am and pm school holidays kick offs in the youth comp. Sure it’s tough to organise but isn’t that what Northern are there for? They have people who’s job it is to organise the comp and and manage the venue. Surely they can have a chat? If we are saying it on here I’m hopeful someone is saying it within Northern.

[Reds Forever]

Stocko FB saying they have their first wash out in two years this weekend, so maybe the sandy ground route isn’t the way to go either.

Come on Northern - step in and do your job. The whole point of Speers Point is for weekends like this surely

Carefully worded post however. Only advised games for Saturday are called off.

[Spell Check]

Carefully worded post however. Only advised games for Saturday are called off.

That’s very interesting. I hope some of the club eyeballs on here are taking note that you can get it done if you want to.

[The Hacker]

That’s very interesting. I hope some of the club eyeballs on here are taking note that you can get it done if you want to.

If Stocko aren’t on today for their own teams why would they let another club play tomorrow. Makes little sense

[Captain_Carl]

If Stocko aren’t on today for their own teams why would they let another club play tomorrow. Makes little sense

Have Stockton been offered some money for the use of their ground on Sunday? I have no idea but I wonder???

[Reds Forever]

How can you have a comp which allows some to rent a game at Speers Point to get the points and then have other clubs in the hands of the host who might not fancy playing? It’s a joke.

If one plays at Speers Point on a wet weekend, all play at Speers Point. Start games early, play games late, use the school holidays to catch up. Is it that hard seriously?

Northern won't provide use of synthetic as will lose income from teams hire costs to train there. If Northern were fair dinkum about using the venue for catch up games, they may have cancelled their revenue generating Women's State Cup and Community State Youth Championships that are using the synthetic fields all next weekend and during holidays or at least had it at end of year.

Northern however took easy way out and made call to not replay wash out games for 18 years and under.

[Two tone]

If I was a Stockton player and my game was called off today and then another club comes along tomorrow and gets to play on my ground. I would be up in arms and having harsh words with my committee that’s for sure.

[outsider]

For sure, but that shouldn’t stop a few 8 o’clock am and pm school holidays kick offs in the youth comp. Sure it’s tough to organise but isn’t that what Northern are there for? They have people who’s job it is to organise the comp and and manage the venue. Surely they can have a chat? If we are saying it on here I’m hopeful someone is saying it within Northern.

Hard to find referees for 8am kickoffs

[sapdad]

Rosebuds youth weren’t set to play until Sunday. We know it’s going to rain but to call it on Friday after less than torrential fall speaks to perhaps a different agenda.

I love the Buds but the noises from the parents this season suggests things are worse than they have been in many years. Let’s hope things change soon.

My sons best mate plays there so as families we talk quite a bit about our sons experiences.The dad told me the week before their home game against Magic was washed out but Magic organised Speers point to play on even though it was a Rosebuds home game.The Rosebud kids and coaches all agreed to play the catch up even though they could have taken the point from the washout.He said they knew they would get beat but everyone agreed the only way to get better was to play as many games as they could.He has a lot of thoughts both good and bad of whats going on over there but my sons club has issues of their own so its probably more about how you go about fixing them.He is a big fan of the new youth system proposed as it will suit a club like theirs.

[sapdad]

When some clubs have low single digit points all season, a 0-0 draw and not having to go through the inevitable is a good result.

Plenty of clubs up the top of the table happy to have draws too if we're being honest.

[BS detecor]

My sons best mate plays there so as families we talk quite a bit about our sons experiences.The dad told me the week before their home game against Magic was washed out but Magic organised Speers point to play on even though it was a Rosebuds home game.The Rosebud kids and coaches all agreed to play the catch up even though they could have taken the point from the washout.He said they knew they would get beat but everyone agreed the only way to get better was to play as many games as they could.He has a lot of thoughts both good and bad of whats going on over there but my sons club has issues of their own so its probably more about how you go about fixing them.He is a big fan of the new youth system proposed as it will suit a club like theirs.

I couldn’t imagine a washout draw helping the buds anyway. In fact, any team that is happy to take a draw rather than play a game doesn’t have the kids best interests at heart. Good on the buds for playing the game.

[jim wallis]

I couldn’t imagine a washout draw helping the buds anyway. In fact, any team that is happy to take a draw rather than play a game doesn’t have the kids best interests at heart. Good on the buds for playing the game.

True. But it's all about Magic winning remember. They couldnt give a damn about the buds.

[jim wallis]

How did Olympic Magic JDL get onto Uni no2 last week? Private ground.

[traffic light]

So looks like any club can scramble for playable ground

Or instead offer club trial instead.
That way every gets to play which is most important, right? and worry less about points :rof::rof::rof:

[sapdad]

True. But it's all about Magic winning remember. They couldnt give a damn about the buds.

Can you blame them though?They are competing for 1st place,and its clear they arent the only club who have the same mindset.

[Reds Forever]

Can you blame them though?They are competing for 1st place,and its clear they arent the only club who have the same mindset.

Let's not forget it was going to be rescheduled as was before round 14 cut off.

[sapdad]

Let's not forget it was going to be rescheduled as was before round 14 cut off.

Theres still a bit of confusion regarding this.Our club is under the impression that all games washed out (whether they are already catch ups from 1st round) will NOT be replayed.Ive been told otherwise by other parents though so who the hell knows.

[BS detecor]

No issue with any club finding alternate arrangements to get the games played. The issue will only be with clubs who pick and choose which games they relocate based on the opposition

[traffic light]

No issue with any club finding alternate arrangements to get the games played. The issue will only be with clubs who pick and choose which games they relocate based on the opposition

um. point 2 is directly related to point 1 so overall it's an issue

[traffic light]

Theres still a bit of confusion regarding this.Our club is under the impression that all games washed out (whether they are already catch ups from 1st round) will NOT be replayed.Ive been told otherwise by other parents though so who the hell knows.

All rd1 games will be caught up. No rd2 game will be caught up was in my email.

[terry]

Can you blame them though?They are competing for 1st place,and its clear they arent the only club who have the same mindset.

So no problem with bottom club refusing to change ground at short notice to deny said winning team? If one club wants to win at all cost then it must be ok for any club to deny them. Pick your poison

[BS detecor]

um. point 2 is directly related to point 1 so overall it's an issue

Yeah that’s northerns fault but if clubs are going to pick and choose which games they move heaven and earth to play and which games they cancel 2 days out, then that’s on the clubs

[BS detecor]

So no problem with bottom club refusing to change ground at short notice to deny said winning team? If one club wants to win at all cost then it must be ok for any club to deny them. Pick your poison

How is playing a game winning at all cost? Finding a way to get the game played should be commended and if it means that the club give up their designated training night at speers point to play a catch up game then that’s exactly what should be happening. It’s literally what northern suggested clubs do.

[Stanley]

I couldn’t imagine a washout draw helping the buds anyway. In fact, any team that is happy to take a draw rather than play a game doesn’t have the kids best interests at heart. Good on the buds for playing the game.

The game was never going to be a 0-0 draw as it was a round 1 washout catch up game. I too have a friends boy playing at the buds

[sapdad]

So no problem with bottom club refusing to change ground at short notice to deny said winning team? If one club wants to win at all cost then it must be ok for any club to deny them. Pick your poison

Im not interested in the blame game in any of this.Luckily results wont matter for my kids team this year.He wants to play every game possible and wants to test himself against the best.His team is building towards something and a trophy or a spoon wont change that.Im confident the team that wins the premiership and grand final will deserve it no matter how it unfolds.

[sapdad]

All rd1 games will be caught up. No rd2 game will be caught up was in my email.

Thanks.

[northern_swan]

How did Olympic Magic JDL get onto Uni no2 last week? Private ground.

Magic entered into a commercial agreement with the uni? Not sure what answer you’re after here, but it seems pretty obvious to me. Good on them to be fair.

[Doopche]

True. But it's all about Magic winning remember. They couldnt give a damn about the buds.

Well it is a competition about winning games isn’t it? And who cares how they got games played in JDL. How obsessed is this bloke with Magic? Get a life champ.

[late_to_the_game]

Magic entered into a commercial agreement with the uni? Not sure what answer you’re after here, but it seems pretty obvious to me. Good on them to be fair.

Every time I have approached them, the rule was no teams other than Uni. The sports union management must have changed....

[The Hacker]

Buds called off Sat games v Olympic in a hurry. lol.

Yes all grass games will be easily off. Azzurri at LCarr so wont play that

Gee the Buds calling it off early looks silly now doesn’t it. Hat off to them for not wasting parents time when it was clear there was no Hope. How’d all the other clubs that kicked up a song and dance about it go getting on today

[terry]

Gee the Buds calling it off early looks silly now doesn’t it. Hat off to them for not wasting parents time when it was clear there was no Hope. How’d all the other clubs that kicked up a song and dance about it go getting on today

Captain obvious for this mug

[BS detecor]

Gee the Buds calling it off early looks silly now doesn’t it. Hat off to them for not wasting parents time when it was clear there was no Hope. How’d all the other clubs that kicked up a song and dance about it go getting on today

Looks like they’re playing in Taree

[KITZ]

Theres still a bit of confusion regarding this.Our club is under the impression that all games washed out (whether they are already catch ups from 1st round) will NOT be replayed.Ive been told otherwise by other parents though so who the hell knows.

No they must be replayed, it was quite clear that it listed from round XX not from date XX.

If not the whole competition is a joke and we should all ask for our money back... The grounds are all single use grounds (apart from Valo) and there's literally no excuse those games in the first half of the season shouldn't all be played as the rest of the competition had the opportunity to. I get they think they are running out of time, but it's the highest level of the sport we have in the region. Its about time we as for a please explain as to how on earth its OK to implement a promotion relegation scheme when teams can't even get a fair amount of game time. Its a joke.

[sapdad]

Its about time we as for a please explain as to how on earth its OK to implement a promotion relegation scheme when teams can't even get a fair amount of game time.

Agreed,i think next year they have to make it very very clear how washouts will be treated and have a much better contingency plan.I know we all assume that it wont be this bad again but the change of draw will happen after 11 games next year so theres even less time to get early season replays in.Like many have said,utilising Speers Point more for all teams is the easy option.Theres a bit of discussion on here about the extremes clubs are going to to get their games in but I hope NNSW shows the same amount of urgency going forward.

[Take it easy]

No they must be replayed, it was quite clear that it listed from round XX not from date XX.

If not the whole competition is a joke and we should all ask for our money back... The grounds are all single use grounds (apart from Valo) and there's literally no excuse those games in the first half of the season shouldn't all be played as the rest of the competition had the opportunity to. I get they think they are running out of time, but it's the highest level of the sport we have in the region. Its about time we as for a please explain as to how on earth its OK to implement a promotion relegation scheme when teams can't even get a fair amount of game time. Its a joke.

You’re obviously from a low lying club, if you want to blame northern for the weather now. Promotion relegation needs to happen before we kill off the competition completely. Only joke here is that you actually didn’t read that before you posted it.

FYI the Jets are the highest level.

[terry]

Promotion relegation needs to happen before we kill off the competition completely.

Totally agree.


Yes the weather is going to create advantages and disadvantages for clubs. I cant think of a better way to get the comp finished.

If however we did our due diligence over the last 15 years we would have had more wet weather venues to play all catchups.

We all have been F***** over here.

[ForeverRed]

No they must be replayed, it was quite clear that it listed from round XX not from date XX.

If not the whole competition is a joke and we should all ask for our money back... The grounds are all single use grounds (apart from Valo) and there's literally no excuse those games in the first half of the season shouldn't all be played as the rest of the competition had the opportunity to. I get they think they are running out of time, but it's the highest level of the sport we have in the region. Its about time we as for a please explain as to how on earth its OK to implement a promotion relegation scheme when teams can't even get a fair amount of game time. Its a joke.

😂😂😂😂

[terry]

Well it is a competition about winning games isn?t it? And who cares how they got games played in JDL. How obsessed is this bloke with Magic? Get a life champ.

You get back to chest and dik beating. Magic lol

[Doopche]

You get back to chest and dik beating. Magic lol

Only club you could do those things about tbh. They have set a high standard. You just wish your boy was there so you could be like Michael Jackson and “Beat it”

[terry]

Only club you could do those things about tbh. They have set a high standard. You just wish your boy was there so you could be like Michael Jackson and ?Beat it?

Says the original popeye arm. -Edited-

If a kid had something they'd be in Sydney not at your arrogant grub club.
Just continue to let the other clubs who really care about kids and their development do the real coaching while you just chase the top kids. Yawn, old news i know.

[BS detecor]

Says the original popeye arm. -Edited-

If a kid had something they'd be in Sydney not at your arrogant grub club.
Just continue to let the other clubs who really care about kids and their development do the real coaching while you just chase the top kids. Yawn, old news i know.

Obsessed

[Doopche]

Says the original popeye arm. -Edited-

If a kid had something they'd be in Sydney not at your arrogant grub club.
Just continue to let the other clubs who really care about kids and their development do the real coaching while you just chase the top kids. Yawn, old news i know.

-Edited- Call the club what you will but that club has more coaching talent in their left pinky then what you have at your club I?m sure of that. Couldn?t be happier with all the coaches there and the my kid loves it. I just sit back and laugh at how obsessed other people are with the club. I?ll be keeping my kid there as long as they will keep him.
I?d even go as far to say Magics coaching line up is 10 times better then what they currently have at the Jets academy. Change my mind?

[Jim]

-Edited- Call the club what you will but that club has more coaching talent in their left pinky then what you have at your club I?m sure of that. Couldn?t be happier with all the coaches there and the my kid loves it. I just sit back and laugh at how obsessed other people are with the club. I?ll be keeping my kid there as long as they will keep him.
I?d even go as far to say Magics coaching line up is 10 times better then what they currently have at the Jets academy. Change my mind?

Go away grub. Your wrong, deluded and are a cancer. Early recruitment is your success not your coaching. :lol:

[djjones]

Go away grub. Your wrong, deluded and are a cancer. Early recruitment is your success not your coaching. :lol:

Ignore the trolls.


Surprised to see edgy take 12 points at NC.

[Doopche]

Go away grub. Your wrong, deluded and are a cancer. Early recruitment is your success not your coaching. :lol:

Aww jimmy is a bit rattled. Put your dummy back in your mouth jimbo, Recruitment is part of coaching is it not? Don’t hate a club for being 3 steps ahead of the rest. Maybe your club should try find experienced coaches also like ours has and not ones that try to coach from a book off the internet.
I mean just look at 1st grade, everyone thought they would be ordinary once zane cut all the experienced players, but he’s brought in these young kids and he’s sitting at the top of NPL and into last 32 in Australia cup.
But you keep sulking jimbo your tears are nice and salty 😢

[Aegon]

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[Doopche]

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Shouldn’t Jimmy be given a break? He’s called me a grub and a cancer because my son plays at a club he doesn’t like? He’s obviously got some kind of obsession with them. We all have our rivals but using the word cancer is a bit over the top in kids football.

[Goatscheese]

Every time I have approached them, the rule was no teams other than Uni. The sports union management must have changed....

Or they have people in the uni with the influence to change the rules

[Doopche]

Or they have people in the uni with the influence to change the rules
Here come all the Karen’s. Let’s whinge and complain because a club has found a ground to get kids JDL games played in the wet weather. How do you know rules have been changed? Maybe they just asked if it was available to hire so they could get the games played and uni said yes.
I have an idea, let’s have a cry and a whinge to uni so that games can’t be played in future so both clubs that were meant to play suffer.
Obviously they took the right channels and got the fields so well done to them. Be happy games are being played and not whinge and carry on.

[Lofty]

Go away grub. Your wrong, deluded and are a cancer. Early recruitment is your success not your coaching. :lol:

Really embarrassing the things that "grown men" will say online when hiding behind a screen. If you have kids, I truly hope you raise them to be different from you.

[ForeverRed]

Really embarrassing the things that "grown men" will say online when hiding behind a screen. If you have kids, I truly hope you raise them to be different from you.

Who says they are men 🤷*♂️

[Lofty]

Who says they are men ��*♂️

You are right. Jim could be a lady.

[Doopche]

You are right. Jim could be a lady.

We can’t say that now. Remember there is a 3rd box you can tick. Male, female or Other

[Goatscheese]

Here come all the Karen’s. Let’s whinge and complain because a club has found a ground to get kids JDL games played in the wet weather. How do you know rules have been changed? Maybe they just asked if it was available to hire so they could get the games played and uni said yes.
I have an idea, let’s have a cry and a whinge to uni so that games can’t be played in future so both clubs that were meant to play suffer.
Obviously they took the right channels and got the fields so well done to them. Be happy games are being played and not whinge and carry on.

Grow up, no one had a whinge.

[Doopche]

Grow up, no one had a whinge.

Haha yes you did and by you deleting your comment so fast just proved it. You going to delete this one as well Karen? I mean 🐐 🧀

[Jim]

You are right. Jim could be a lady.

Gender slander. Youre a disgrace to your family and club. A grub from the usual club. Where the mods now?

Remember Poachers are the best coaches. No credibility or respect there.

[Jim]

Haha yes you did and by you deleting your comment so fast just proved it. You going to delete this one as well Karen? I mean �� ��

Incite then cry. Usual grubby action

[ForeverRed]

Maybe this kids thread should be shut down like the other kids thread was, 🤦

[KITZ]

You’re obviously from a low lying club, if you want to blame northern for the weather now. Promotion relegation needs to happen before we kill off the competition completely. Only joke here is that you actually didn’t read that before you posted it.

FYI the Jets are the highest level.

LOL, couldn't be further from the truth - both my kids ( at different clubs ) aren't in that zone so its nothing I'm concerned about.

You don't have to be "from a low lying club" to want integrity and fairness in the competition. YOU obviously didn't read the message at all.

The jets aren't part of the competition here - they play in Sydney, and frankly the academy from what I know an have been told is not a priority for the club at any rate.

I seen the team of the week for the mariners like 2 weeks ago and half of the squad was Newcastle kids - I could recognise half a dozen names there, and many of last years squads are back here playing NPL.

So I still reiterate that the NPL in Newcastle is the highest level of football in this region and deserves to be recognised and looked after as such.

[KITZ]

Maybe this kids thread should be shut down like the other kids thread was, ��

I hope not. They are just deleting posts now, So hopefully that gets it stopped quickly.

[Aegon]

I’ve just removed a bunch of unnecessary posts..
Refer to the posting guidelines above.
Further rubbish will be dealt with in accordance with rule 1.

[BS detecor]

No amount of ground relocating will save this round I feel

[sapdad]

No amount of ground relocating will save this round I feel

I cant wait for the rumours of super soppers and helicopters being booked in order to get some U/13's games on this weekend.

[The Magician]

I cant wait for the rumours of super soppers and helicopters being booked in order to get some U/13's games on this weekend.

Full round wash out has potential to extend the season... if one game gets played all others will be 0-0

[Reds Forever]

Full round wash out has potential to extend the season... if one game gets played all others will be 0-0

North Coast playing on synthetic each week means a game will always get on then.

[sapdad]

Full round wash out has potential to extend the season... if one game gets played all others will be 0-0

Sorry but I dont quite understand your post.Are you saying that they might replay the whole round?I thought there was no chance of this happening.

[KITZ]

North Coast playing on synthetic each week means a game will always get on then.

Do they get the use of the synthetic for free every second weekend? Clubs are having to pay to put games on at Speers. But I'm sure in youth there's part of northerns fees goes into the fund to manage the synthetic facility......

[sapdad]

Do they get the use of the synthetic for free every second weekend? Clubs are having to pay to put games on at Speers. But I'm sure in youth there's part of northerns fees goes into the fund to manage the synthetic facility......

I was of the understanding that it is North Coast Footballs home ground so all of their games get played there.It is an amazing facility and it looks no where near finished.There is a lot more land in the complex that could be used for more fields so who knows how much better it will get.

[BS detecor]

I was of the understanding that it is North Coast Footballs home ground so all of their games get played there.It is an amazing facility and it looks no where near finished.There is a lot more land in the complex that could be used for more fields so who knows how much better it will get.

Amazing what a council with vision and a town not afraid of change can achieve

[KITZ]

I was of the understanding that it is North Coast Footballs home ground so all of their games get played there.It is an amazing facility and it looks no where near finished.There is a lot more land in the complex that could be used for more fields so who knows how much better it will get.

Sorry I should have been clearer, my bad. I meant when they play down here, because all the other clubs lose a home game when they play north coast as they always have to play at Speers, I was wondering who is absorbing that cost, since the rest of us has to pay to use the facility.

[Spell Check]

Sorry I should have been clearer, my bad. I meant when they play down here, because all the other clubs lose a home game when they play north coast as they always have to play at Speers, I was wondering who is absorbing that cost, since the rest of us has to pay to use the facility.

This seems a non issue for mine. Northern want North Coast in the comp and I’m sure they pay the same Speers Point duty as all the other clubs. considering the travel they do to play games here it would be wrong to charge them more. They’ll also be paying for their own facility up north extra costs on top to play here would be wrong.

[Take it easy]

Sorry I should have been clearer, my bad. I meant when they play down here, because all the other clubs lose a home game when they play north coast as they always have to play at Speers, I was wondering who is absorbing that cost, since the rest of us has to pay to use the facility.

Seriously get a life.

[Spell Check]

I was of the understanding that it is North Coast Footballs home ground so all of their games get played there.It is an amazing facility and it looks no where near finished.There is a lot more land in the complex that could be used for more fields so who knows how much better it will get.

That facility is a hub for all sports, so everyone benefits from a top notch complex. Codes agreeing to go in together for the benefit of all. Can’t see that happening in Newy.

[KITZ]

Seriously get a life.

Seriously, get a life.

[KITZ]

This seems a non issue for mine. Northern want North Coast in the comp and I’m sure they pay the same Speers Point duty as all the other clubs. considering the travel they do to play games here it would be wrong to charge them more. They’ll also be paying for their own facility up north extra costs on top to play here would be wrong.

Its become an issue now because they are the only team that are getting consistent game time, and everyone else has to pay to play there. If Northern was willing to ensure the integrity of the competition then they need to allow clubs to at least make up their games at the facility without charging a thousand dollars a day.

[sapdad]

That facility is a hub for all sports, so everyone benefits from a top notch complex. Codes agreeing to go in together for the benefit of all. Can’t see that happening in Newy.

Ive been told the biggest issue with public funding for more upgrades is the lack of cooperation between clubs and sports.Council certainly isnt blameless but Ive been told on good authority proposals have been put to clubs yet clubs have rejected them.For sure council isnt blameless so hopefully some more work can be done with all parties to make better solutions.Personally I have no idea why more area around the hockey centre/knights facility/impending trotting track demolition hasnt been earmarked for a Speers Point style facility.

[sapdad]

Its become an issue now because they are the only team that are getting consistent game time, and everyone else has to pay to play there. If Northern was willing to ensure the integrity of the competition then they need to allow clubs to at least make up their games at the facility without charging a thousand dollars a day.

You would have to assume there is some sort of trade off for asking teams to travel 4 hours each way every 2nd week that they would be at least guaranteed a game.Having synthetic at both home and away legs is at least reassurance for the kids and parents that its worth the commitment.I agree it may one day decide a premiership or finals spot, but hopefully it spurs clubs and councils alike to get on with making sure all kids get their games in every week by improving facilities.

[finzee]

Ive been told the biggest issue with public funding for more upgrades is the lack of cooperation between clubs and sports.Council certainly isnt blameless but Ive been told on good authority proposals have been put to clubs yet clubs have rejected them.For sure council isnt blameless so hopefully some more work can be done with all parties to make better solutions.Personally I have no idea why more area around the hockey centre/knights facility/impending trotting track demolition hasnt been earmarked for a Speers Point style facility.

Im dying to know these anwsers as well.

[Captain_Carl]

A number of venues have already been washed out across the Premier Competitions this weekend. These include:

NPL Boys NNSW Youth round 18
Macquarie Field – Lake Macquarie City v Maitland FC
Rockwell Automation Park – Weston Workers FC v Mid Coast FC

Cahill Oval* – Valentine FC v Cooks Hill United (pending pitch inspection)
Magic Park* – Broadmeadow Magic v Adamstown Rosebud (moved to Myer Park pending pitch inspection)
Darling Street Oval* – Newcastle Olympic v Charlestown Azzurri (Potential venue swap to Allen Davis Field being explored pending pitch inspections)

[Hunter403]

Personally I have no idea why more area around the hockey centre/knights facility/impending trotting track demolition hasnt been earmarked for a Speers Point style facility.

Get onto Newy Council website and look at their master plan for the area. The answers are there if not the timing. It is also somewhere here on the forum (Boz shared it, I think, some time ago). The plan has Edden and Blackley as artifical surfaces if I recall correctly.

[Spell Check]

Link here: https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/getmedia/f3c0b613-db0b-40ea-b62b-5ebcb9e107db/4412-Strategic-Sports-Plan

Yep, you are correct Hunter – the Strategic Sports Plan recommended Edden and Blackley becoming a centre of excellence for football with synthetic pitch at Edden. But a strategic plan isn’t a development plan, so its pie in the sky until someone forces it to happen. Maybe it’s time for Newy clubs to band together and push this with their local councillors and MPs? We know things only move in this town if there is noise. Lets get noisy.

Interestingly the strategic plan says “The consultation process did not indicate a consensus view on the provision of synthetic surfaces. Synthetic playing surfaces are appropriate in areas where there are limited grass playing field opportunities, high use of existing facilities, and/ or an inability to adequately maintain grass fields to suitable standards. Where intensity of use exceeds the capacity of a playing field(s), alternative solutions should be explored before developing a synthetic surface(s) e.g. upgrading irrigation/ drainage, increasing maintenance, exploring the availability of other fields in the network.” I wonder how this consensus view has changed in the last two years?

[The Magician]

Link here: https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/getmedia/f3c0b613-db0b-40ea-b62b-5ebcb9e107db/4412-Strategic-Sports-Plan

Yep, you are correct Hunter – the Strategic Sports Plan recommended Edden and Blackley becoming a centre of excellence for football with synthetic pitch at Edden. But a strategic plan isn’t a development plan, so its pie in the sky until someone forces it to happen. Maybe it’s time for Newy clubs to band together and push this with their local councillors and MPs? We know things only move in this town if there is noise. Lets get noisy.

Interestingly the strategic plan says “The consultation process did not indicate a consensus view on the provision of synthetic surfaces. Synthetic playing surfaces are appropriate in areas where there are limited grass playing field opportunities, high use of existing facilities, and/ or an inability to adequately maintain grass fields to suitable standards. Where intensity of use exceeds the capacity of a playing field(s), alternative solutions should be explored before developing a synthetic surface(s) e.g. upgrading irrigation/ drainage, increasing maintenance, exploring the availability of other fields in the network.” I wonder how this consensus view has changed in the last two years?

That document is already completely irrelevant and obsolete. NCC have documents supporting the fact that a vast majority of the current fields in its care are under-utilised. There will be no development of football fields unless individual clubs push the barrow, chase the finances, and do the lobbying. All NCC will do is supply a "letter of Support", all funding must come from state or federal sources, then charge the club a DA fee to upgrade improve their own asset, then notify the club that works must be carried out by their "inducted" contractors, adding 40% to the project cost. Just ask Olympic.

Clubs have been promised facility upgrades since Noah's ark finally ran aground. I know of a community club that were finally "guaranteed" to have an extra 2 lights placed on an existing pole for the start of the 2022 season to expand their training area, previously budgeted and committed in 2019, 2020, and 2021 only to have correspondence 2 weeks before the due date of 2022 commencement asking to now pay for the 2 light fittings ($7000) and essentially council "will install". Using current advertised rates, those 2 lights would have added $1300 to their yearly fee bill.

Thought for the day... with our fields so wet during the year that council have not been able to mow, mark, put goals up etc... what have those council parks workers been doing all year?

[YerMate]

what have those council parks workers been doing all year?[/QUOTE]

Go to the grounds in the morning and you'll find council work vehicles hidden out of view, hiding and the the guy's fast a sleeping in the cars. NCC are and always will be a JOKE.

[Oldy]

NOFC have graciously move their game to Allen Davis :rof::rof::rof:

Now waiting for the other hungry 3 pointers to change theirs

[BS detecor]

NOFC have graciously move their game to Allen Davis :rof::rof::rof:

Now waiting for the other hungry 3 pointers to change theirs

Are you upset that they are trying to get the games played?

[KITZ]

NOFC have graciously move their game to Allen Davis :rof::rof::rof:

Now waiting for the other hungry 3 pointers to change theirs

does anyone have concerns about how this affects clubs in the youth space when pro/rel is introduced if rules like this continue to be thrown in just as they come up.

I would have really hoped northern had taken the time during covid when we had 2 really disrupted seasons to do proper contingency planning…..

Of course no one knows WHEN it’s going to rain, flood, covid, be too hot, etc etc . But you know the 6 p’s of planning does help things a fair bit.

[KITZ]

Are you upset that they are trying to get the games played?

If you were playing in the competition I think you’d see it as a problem. I know I don’t have to ask players to know the answer particularly as they get older.

If it happened in the seniors would you be cool with it? If you don’t play here’s your 1 all draw, if this means you miss finals, well meh to you.

That other team that played they get three points and you don’t get that same opportunity. On what planet is that remotely a fair competition.

[Oldy]

Are you upset that they are trying to get the games played?

Not at all but ive upset a chestbeater :rof::rof::rof:

[Oldy]

If you were playing in the competition I think you’d see it as a problem. I know I don’t have to ask players to know the answer particularly as they get older.

If it happened in the seniors would you be cool with it? If you don’t play here’s your 1 all draw, if this means you miss finals, well meh to you.

That other team that played they get three points and you don’t get that same opportunity. On what planet is that remotely a fair competition.

Fair call

[BS detecor]

Not at all but ive upset a chestbeater :rof::rof::rof:

Here we go. Sorry, I just assumed that you were a full grown adult. My bad

[BS detecor]

If you were playing in the competition I think you’d see it as a problem. I know I don’t have to ask players to know the answer particularly as they get older.

If it happened in the seniors would you be cool with it? If you don’t play here’s your 1 all draw, if this means you miss finals, well meh to you.

That other team that played they get three points and you don’t get that same opportunity. On what planet is that remotely a fair competition.

Your replying to the wrong person. I said do what it takes to play the games. if that means finding a dry ground, find a dry ground and relocate the game. It’s youth football, playing games is more important than points tables

[sapdad]

If you were playing in the competition I think you’d see it as a problem.

Its a very fair point.In defense of Charlestown and Olympic,only 14s really matters as far as the table is concerned and to be honest both teams want the win so a draw helps neither.The other ages wont matter with finals positions so id say theres nothing untoward going on.I also think Charlestowns home ground will be fine to play on as long as theres no more rain.Im way more skeptical of Myer park being safe to play on hopefully whoever has control of that decision makes the right call.It will be unfortunate for Magic as draws may affect a few of their grades finals positions,but they wont miss the finals because of it.Jaffas/North Coast will obviously be fine and i think the rest have been officially called off.Regardless,I dont think any team will miss finals unfairly because of one weekend,but it sure seems NNSW's rules on this matter have been dealt with pretty liberally.

[northern_swan]

Clubs should be working together to try to ensure as many games as possible are played.
That said, surely points per game played would be a better way of deciding each competition ladder rather than a draw awarded to a washed out game

[The Magician]

Clubs should be working together to try to ensure as many games as possible are played.
That said, surely points per game played would be a better way of deciding each competition ladder rather than a draw awarded to a washed out game

If a club manages to arrange an alternate kick off venue, even if its means changing the day or even the time on the day and the away club refuses, the away club should forfeit. 0-0 is too easy, its a farce. Absolutely disgusting that teams effectively settle for the 0-0 draw, if parents knew that their clubs were refusing to play fixtures i hope they ask for a please explain or rego refund.

[sapdad]

If a club manages to arrange an alternate kick off venue, even if its means changing the day or even the time on the day and the away club refuses, the away club should forfeit. 0-0 is too easy, its a farce. Absolutely disgusting that teams effectively settle for the 0-0 draw, if parents knew that their clubs were refusing to play fixtures i hope they ask for a please explain or rego refund.

Is this happening though?I only hear about clubs/kids and coaches doing their best to get games in.Although I disagree with one club being able to dictate all aspects of a reschedule,especially with the distance a lot of clubs face to get to games.It could be easily manipulated.NNSW should have final say when alternate arrangements are made.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Is this happening though?I only hear about clubs/kids and coaches doing their best to get games in.Although I disagree with one club being able to dictate all aspects of a reschedule,especially with the distance a lot of clubs face to get to games.It could be easily manipulated.NNSW should have final say when alternate arrangements are made.

Remember our team finished 4th with a game in hand vs 3rd who we had previously beaten. A win would’ve put us to 2nd and given us a 2 v 3 semi, instead they refused to play the washout. The draw bumped them to 2nd on GD, we stayed 4th and got the 1 v 4 semi.
That was seniors. If it can happen there without questions, it can happen in youth.

[ForeverRed]

Its a very fair point.In defense of Charlestown and Olympic,only 14s really matters as far as the table is concerned and to be honest both teams want the win so a draw helps neither.The other ages wont matter with finals positions so id say theres nothing untoward going on.I also think Charlestowns home ground will be fine to play on as long as theres no more rain.Im way more skeptical of Myer park being safe to play on hopefully whoever has control of that decision makes the right call.It will be unfortunate for Magic as draws may affect a few of their grades finals positions,but they wont miss the finals because of it.Jaffas/North Coast will obviously be fine and i think the rest have been officially called off.Regardless,I dont think any team will miss finals unfairly because of one weekend,but it sure seems NNSW's rules on this matter have been dealt with pretty liberally.
Why are you so concerned about finals, seriously this is the major problem about youth football, mum and dad and that trophy,, I can’t wait to the day NNSWF ban finals in youth football, then everyone will get the picture.

[Isthisforreal]

Why are you so concerned about finals, seriously this is the major problem about youth football, mum and dad and that trophy,, I can’t wait to the day NNSWF ban finals in youth football, then everyone will get the picture.

Wow you really don’t get football do you ?

The picture that we develop a serial bunch of under achievers is your aim?…

If you seriously think that banning results in youth football will develop a better player you’re delusional.

In fact the sooner that bring results in with the younger ages the better and develop a program that promotes development not rewarding mediocrity the better.

[ForeverRed]

Wow you really don’t get football do you ?

The picture that we develop a serial bunch of under achievers is your aim?…

If you seriously think that banning results in youth football will develop a better player you’re delusional.

In fact the sooner that bring results in with the younger ages the better and develop a program that promotes development not rewarding mediocrity the better.
You need to go back to reading classes, never mentioned anything about results, are you stupid, all I mentioned was canning finals, have another read boy.

[sapdad]

Why are you so concerned about finals, seriously this is the major problem about youth football, mum and dad and that trophy,, I can’t wait to the day NNSWF ban finals in youth football, then everyone will get the picture.

I dont care really.I was responding to a post from someone asking a legitimate question regarding results.NNSW have drawn the line at where finals matter and at the moment its 13's.If you disagree with that feel free to take it up with the people that make those decisions.

[Oldy]

Here we go. Sorry, I just assumed that you were a full grown adult. My bad

Yep. maturity accepts that some have to go hysterical lengths to find grounds to get 3 pts. What idiot thinks this is cool. um yep you.

Time for your chestbeating big man gogogo

[BS detecor]

Yep. maturity accepts that some have to go hysterical lengths to find grounds to get 3 pts. What idiot thinks this is cool. um yep you.

Time for your chestbeating big man gogogo

Sounds to me like someone’s upset that they might not get their washout point and they are projecting their frustration on everyone else.

[KITZ]

Sounds to me like someoneÂ’s upset that they might not get their washout point and they are projecting their frustration on everyone else.

I think people are frustrated that we are on our third season now where we are paying $$$$ and the season isnÂ’t even being played. Northern need to start focusing on ensuring people are getting what they pay for, instead of adding more tournaments and charging people to play them.

That would be nice.

[BS detecor]

I think people are frustrated that we are on our third season now where we are paying $$$$ and the season isnÂ’t even being played. Northern need to start focusing on ensuring people are getting what they pay for, instead of adding more tournaments and charging people to play them.

That would be nice.

So you are fine with clubs making alternate arrangements to get games played then?

[Isthisforreal]

So you are fine with clubs making alternate arrangements to get games played then?

Anyone that isn’t ok with it regardless of motive needs to get out of kids sport. Clubs should be doing anything they can, even multiple games per week/weekend to get the kids a game.

[BS detecor]

Anyone that isn’t ok with it regardless of motive needs to get out of kids sport. Clubs should be doing anything they can, even multiple games per week/weekend to get the kids a game.

But it’s unfaaaaaair, my team might miss out on the finals so I would prefer everyone just to stay home and play their Xbox because it’s all about how much money we pay./sarcasm

[Oldy]

Sounds to me like someone?s upset that they might not get their washout point and they are projecting their frustration on everyone else.

Wrong again. ffs what with the crybaby talk.

Im seeing how some grubby clubs have to hysterically hunt around to find a dry ground for their 3pts. This would be your club so I get it. we all do now.

Waits for childish reply

[BS detecor]

ffs what with the crybaby talk.

Waits for childish reply

Pretty sure we all just read it

[Raymond019]

New to these forums. Just a quick question, are some of these comments seriously posted by adults?

[Aegon]

I've had to issue infractions and clean up the posts yet again.
No warnings going forward, if you resort to personal attacks and cannot be respectful of others here I am just going to issue 1 month bans.
If we still can't be civil after that, I'll bin the thread altogether until 2023.

[KITZ]

But it’s unfaaaaaair, my team might miss out on the finals so I would prefer everyone just to stay home and play their Xbox because it’s all about how much money we pay./sarcasm

NO teams shouldn’t be doing ANYTHING to get games played to the point player safety is at risk. YES northern should be providing access to speers mid week etc for catch-up games. Kids would rather be playing then training and mid week games at speers fixes the issues of clubs carrying on, scrounging community fields etc to get games on.

It’s really not very complicated. People want a fair competition that’s providing development and value for the money they are investing.

I don’t know why that’s so difficult to comprehend and for people to get their heads around without it turning into comments like those above.

[BS detecor]

NO teams shouldn’t be doing ANYTHING to get games played to the point player safety is at risk. YES northern should be providing access to speers mid week etc for catch-up games. Kids would rather be playing then training and mid week games at speers fixes the issues of clubs carrying on, scrounging community fields etc to get games on.

It’s really not very complicated. People want a fair competition that’s providing development and value for the money they are investing.

I don’t know why that’s so difficult to comprehend and for people to get their heads around without it turning into comments like those above.

If a community ground is safe enough for a community team then it’s safe enough for an NPL team in my opinion

[Mad with football]

What is the latest news Re TD’s at clubs for next year ? Charlestown lost theirs mid year ( not been replaced) and I believe the Maitland TD also stood down a few weeks ago from role , so what is happening? I see NNSW have taken away the need for a B licence coach to be a TD to a C, which is a joke ( as per stupid ongoing decisions from Nnsw ) and nit saying a C licence coach can’t be a TD but the role needs experienced coaches to plan and implement strong development pathways and by downgrading the criteria it shows to me NNSW don’t really care about player & coach development

[JustMe]

New to these forums. Just a quick question, are some of these comments seriously posted by adults?

Welcome back multi

[JustMe]

What is the latest news Re TD’s at clubs for next year ? Charlestown lost theirs mid year ( not been replaced) and I believe the Maitland TD also stood down a few weeks ago from role , so what is happening? I see NNSW have taken away the need for a B licence coach to be a TD to a C, which is a joke ( as per stupid ongoing decisions from Nnsw ) and nit saying a C licence coach can’t be a TD but the role needs experienced coaches to plan and implement strong development pathways and by downgrading the criteria it shows to me NNSW don’t really care about player & coach development

Who was the Maitland TD?

[Reds Forever]

Who was the Maitland TD?

Old Magic TD Chris G.

[YerMate]

What is the latest news Re TD’s at clubs for next year ? Charlestown lost theirs mid year ( not been replaced) and I believe the Maitland TD also stood down a few weeks ago from role , so what is happening? I see NNSW have taken away the need for a B licence coach to be a TD to a C, which is a joke ( as per stupid ongoing decisions from Nnsw ) and nit saying a C licence coach can’t be a TD but the role needs experienced coaches to plan and implement strong development pathways and by downgrading the criteria it shows to me NNSW don’t really care about player & coach development

I think these licenses are full of you know what, sorry.

Why do you need a piece of paper to tell you how to coach.
20+ years ago players were getting developed by coaches who weren’t licensed coaches. They all turned out, ok. These coaches now who don’t have licences in the competition that are doing great and developing players at clubs and if you have people willing to give up their time to coach why stop them, they might not be blanked to afford a licence or have the time to give up weekends to do the course due to work or other commitments. These licenses are just another reason for someone to line their pockets with $$$$.
Your important roles like your TD’s and Football Directors and the Head Coach of the club. Yes, I agree let those guys have the right credentials to make sure those below them are doing the right things.
Anyway that’s my 2 cents worth on that.

[ForeverRed]

Totally agree, there’s people who have never kicked a ball in anger but now have a license and seem to think they know it all, yet people who have played at the top for many many years can’t coach because they have to get a license 🤷*♂️🤷*♂️

[Goatscheese]

Wow you really don’t get football do you ?

The picture that we develop a serial bunch of under achievers is your aim?…

If you seriously think that banning results in youth football will develop a better player you’re delusional.

In fact the sooner that bring results in with the younger ages the better and develop a program that promotes development not rewarding mediocrity the better.

Indeed, all those European leagues and National teams that are underachieving all because they don't have finals in youth

[Aegon]

Does anyone have any idea why the stats are so far behind the actual games played on gameday?
It looks like nearly all clubs only have about 1/2 to 2/3 of their games entered.

[KITZ]

Does anyone have any idea why the stats are so far behind the actual games played on gameday?
It looks like nearly all clubs only have about 1/2 to 2/3 of their games entered.

It's like they are registering the scores but not the actual team sheets with the players details. Its usually a little bit behind but I don't think its this far behind normally.

[Spell Check]

That document is already completely irrelevant and obsolete. NCC have documents supporting the fact that a vast majority of the current fields in its care are under-utilised. There will be no development of football fields unless individual clubs push the barrow, chase the finances, and do the lobbying. All NCC will do is supply a "letter of Support", all funding must come from state or federal sources, then charge the club a DA fee to upgrade improve their own asset, then notify the club that works must be carried out by their "inducted" contractors, adding 40% to the project cost. Just ask Olympic.

Clubs have been promised facility upgrades since Noah's ark finally ran aground. I know of a community club that were finally "guaranteed" to have an extra 2 lights placed on an existing pole for the start of the 2022 season to expand their training area, previously budgeted and committed in 2019, 2020, and 2021 only to have correspondence 2 weeks before the due date of 2022 commencement asking to now pay for the 2 light fittings ($7000) and essentially council "will install". Using current advertised rates, those 2 lights would have added $1300 to their yearly fee bill.

Thought for the day... with our fields so wet during the year that council have not been able to mow, mark, put goals up etc... what have those council parks workers been doing all year?

That document is only as irrelevant and obsolete as people allow it to be. It’s the most recent Council-commissioned report on sports ground in the LGA available and Council are failing to implement the recommendations. Who’s asking them to implement? Who’s pushing for the upgrades?

The answer is no one.

You are 100% right to highlight all the issues you have Magician but those won’t change unless we as a football community hold Council to account. The very first thing we should do is push for those recommendations to be implemented or at least investigated further.

The problem we as a soccer community have always had is that we are always competing with each other. Opportunities arise for clubs to share grounds with upgrades promised, but flags and rivalries and “I’m not sharing with them” BS steps in and stops it.

The quicker we realise we are the lowest priority and work together the better. How much stronger are we if we all work together and go to Council, our councillors and MPs as one and say ‘we want change and we’ll work together to get it’? That, and having the highest participation rates of any sport by some margin, is what makes the change. But we’ve got to leave the tribalism at the door.

[Eastwest]

That document is only as irrelevant and obsolete as people allow it to be. It’s the most recent Council-commissioned report on sports ground in the LGA available and Council are failing to implement the recommendations. Who’s asking them to implement? Who’s pushing for the upgrades?

The answer is no one.

You are 100% right to highlight all the issues you have Magician but those won’t change unless we as a football community hold Council to account. The very first thing we should do is push for those recommendations to be implemented or at least investigated further.

The problem we as a soccer community have always had is that we are always competing with each other. Opportunities arise for clubs to share grounds with upgrades promised, but flags and rivalries and “I’m not sharing with them” BS steps in and stops it.

The quicker we realise we are the lowest priority and work together the better. How much stronger are we if we all work together and go to Council, our councillors and MPs as one and say ‘we want change and we’ll work together to get it’? That, and having the highest participation rates of any sport by some margin, is what makes the change. But we’ve got to leave the tribalism at the door.

We need to gather the pitchforks and march on Nelmes' joint.

[Eastwest]

Totally agree, there’s people who have never kicked a ball in anger but now have a license and seem to think they know it all, yet people who have played at the top for many many years can’t coach because they have to get a license ��*♂️��*♂️

Or dont want to pay stupid amounts of $$ to do what they already know. 1000 bucks is ridiculous. Make a C Licence $350 and you get those that youd want in the game.

[traffic light]

NNSWF will consider all washed out matches, including those already recorded as 0-0 results, and determine which matches will be placed into the two added catch-up rounds. This aims to maximise the number of added matches for all teams and will not take into account any current table positions or when matches were postponed. NNSWF will confirm which matches will be placed into the additional catch-up rounds by Friday 22 July. Further matches may be added if there is the opportunity.

REMOVAL OF 0-0 RESULTS AND CHANGE TO POINTS PER GAME (UNDER-13S TO 18S)
NNSWF has determined all 0-0 results allocated to postponed matches will be removed following feedback from clubs.

Premiership and finals placings will be determined using the points per game method. NNSWF believe that the points per game method provides a truer reflection of the competition. Any further washed out matches will not be recorded as 0-0. The match will either be played or not counted in the points per game calculation.

NNSW removing some of the 0-0 draws and having some catchups instead. turnup.
And tables to be determined on a pts per game ratio.

[YerMate]

Olympic move games to azzurri’s grounds last week to play games but won’t move games to magic tomorrow. Why????

[northern_swan]

Olympic move games to azzurri’s grounds last week to play games but won’t move games to magic tomorrow. Why????

Nothing on either club’s Facebook to say Darling st is closed for Sunday (yes I know Darling st was closed today). Are Olympic planning to play at home tomorrow?

[Reds Forever]

Olympic move games to azzurri’s grounds last week to play games but won’t move games to magic tomorrow. Why????

Not to mention that council has Darling Street open since Friday.

[YerMate]

Not to mention that council has Darling Street open since Friday.

Just walked it as it’s open council ground, it’s bone dry. No water on it at all. COME ON NORTHERN THIS IS A PROBLEM

[Spell Check]

Just walked it as it’s open council ground, it’s bone dry. No water on it at all. COME ON NORTHERN THIS IS A PROBLEM

The last time I was at Darling St it had locked fences around it, so I’m not buying that you walked it.

Let’s not create hysteria unnecessarily. WPL was called off there today so the field is not going to have recovered by tomorrow.

You said earlier about moving it to Magic. Is Magic Park fit to play? It wasn’t last week which led to some desperate scenes at Myers Park.

And won’t these games just get replayed under the latest Northern announcement?

[northern_swan]

The last time I was at Darling St it had locked fences around it, so I’m not buying that you walked it.

Let’s not create hysteria unnecessarily. WPL was called off there today so the field is not going to have recovered by tomorrow.

You said earlier about moving it to Magic. Is Magic Park fit to play? It wasn’t last week which led to some desperate scenes at Myers Park.

And won’t these games just get replayed under the latest Northern announcement?

Further to my earlier comment querying if the games have been officially called off, still no confirmation on Magic or Olympic Facebook pages, however I’ve been informed the games are off.

BUT… I’ve also been sent 2 videos. I can only assume they are from “YerMate”. They appear to be of someone walking Darling st (one of the videos panned to the scoreboard). The videos depict a ground that could be played on. Very disappointing if accurate.

EDIT: “YerMate” did not send me directly any video. A friend sent me a video. I’ve assumed the video this person sent to me is from YerMate indirectly (probably through 500 other people :rof:)

[Captain_Carl]

The last time I was at Darling St it had locked fences around it, so I’m not buying that you walked it.

Let’s not create hysteria unnecessarily. WPL was called off there today so the field is not going to have recovered by tomorrow.

You said earlier about moving it to Magic. Is Magic Park fit to play? It wasn’t last week which led to some desperate scenes at Myers Park.

And won’t these games just get replayed under the latest Northern announcement?

NPLW youth games were played on Magic Park today

[Captain_Carl]

They are scared of losing 4 games to 0 against you again I think.

[sapdad]

So some,not all of the previously declared 0-0 results will be replayed at NNSW discretion?Geez i wonder if the team coming 1st will campaign to play replays against the team coming 2nd or the team coming last?Im sure NNSW will do the right thing for the competition.Poor Cookers and Rosebuds better keep their diaries open they are gonna get lots of extra games in.

[The Hacker]

So some,not all of the previously declared 0-0 results will be replayed at NNSW discretion?Geez i wonder if the team coming 1st will campaign to play replays against the team coming 2nd or the team coming last?Im sure NNSW will do the right thing for the competition.Poor Cookers and Rosebuds better keep their diaries open they are gonna get lots of extra games in.

I’d suggest they won’t mind playing more games

[YerMate]

All NPL fields excluding 1 are all council fields so, they need to be left open for general public access and use. I drive past that field daily as, I live in the area. People walk their dogs etc on it.

[YerMate]

I can assure you no videos came from me.

[KITZ]

All NPL fields excluding 1 are all council fields so, they need to be left open for general public access and use. I drive past that field daily as, I live in the area. People walk their dogs etc on it.

You are dreaming. That is not the case at all, they do not have to remain open to the public, and I have yet to see gates left open anywhere, this would have to be the exception to every other NPL field around if olympic leave the gates open.

[KITZ]

So some,not all of the previously declared 0-0 results will be replayed at NNSW discretion?Geez i wonder if the team coming 1st will campaign to play replays against the team coming 2nd or the team coming last?Im sure NNSW will do the right thing for the competition.Poor Cookers and Rosebuds better keep their diaries open they are gonna get lots of extra games in.


The rest of the 0-0 that aren't being replayed will be removed completely and calculated on a PPG basis. Northern are making all decisions now on which games will be replayed and when, its no longer up to the clubs. I really don't think a team coming first cares if they play second or last because likely by this stage they might have already beat them once and a tough game sets them up better for finals then playing the team coming last where they will pickup 2.5 - 3 points for the washout.

[BS detecor]

You are dreaming. That is not the case at all, they do not have to remain open to the public, and I have yet to see gates left open anywhere, this would have to be the exception to every other NPL field around if olympic leave the gates open.

Semantics….Games were called off on a ground that appears to have been fit for games to proceed on an absolutely cracking day for football. Fair play or foul, discuss

[sapdad]

Games were moved from Adamstown up to Weston today after their ground was washed out.Pretty sure they got on so Westons field must have held up well.

[ForeverRed]

You are dreaming. That is not the case at all, they do not have to remain open to the public, and I have yet to see gates left open anywhere, this would have to be the exception to every other NPL field around if olympic leave the gates open.
Sorry, you are wrong

[Spell Check]

Sorry, you are wrong

Rubbish. The vast majority of NPL grounds are fenced off and locked up in the evenings so are inaccessible to the public. The idea that you can simply walk in is just not true.

The big issue here is whether clubs are calling off games unnecessarily. I don’t know the people at Olympic but they don’t seem the type to call off games to spite Magic, which is what is being suggested here. It just wouldn’t happen so let’s not entertain that thought here as it is dumb.

The games called off this weekend will probably be replayed so there is nothing to gain from calling them off unless the pitch couldn’t handle all the games scheduled.

Any video will tell a small tale of the pitch but clubs are a bit more experienced with their own grounds than trespassers with phones and agendas, so let us move on from this.

[Captain_Carl]

Semantics….Games were called off on a ground that appears to have been fit for games to proceed on an absolutely cracking day for football. Fair play or foul, discuss

You are spot on. The ground was in excellent shape and not wet at all. Last time the two clubs played each other Magic won 4 games to 0. Did that have anything to do with calling the games off I wonder 🤔 When I got up this morning I shouted out - hey it’s a beautiful day! Brilliant day for football.

[Hurricane]

Rubbish. The vast majority of NPL grounds are fenced off and locked up in the evenings so are inaccessible to the public. The idea that you can simply walk in is just not true.

The big issue here is whether clubs are calling off games unnecessarily. I don’t know the people at Olympic but they don’t seem the type to call off games to spite Magic, which is what is being suggested here. It just wouldn’t happen so let’s not entertain that thought here as it is dumb.

The games called off this weekend will probably be replayed so there is nothing to gain from calling them off unless the pitch couldn’t handle all the games scheduled.

Any video will tell a small tale of the pitch but clubs are a bit more experienced with their own grounds than trespassers with phones and agendas, so let us move on from this.

Forever Red is correct. The gate behind the grandstand at Darling St is always unlocked to give public access. If you don't believe it, try calling in and entering through the gate

[KITZ]

Forever Red is correct. The gate behind the grandstand at Darling St is always unlocked to give public access. If you don't believe it, try calling in and entering through the gate

It would be the only NPL ground to do so then. because the clubs in other council areas allow the clubs to lock down the grounds, which makes sense since you know we can't even play on them if its a bit too wet.

Last thing you want is people walking their dogs on the pitch and letting them crap everywhere. Sounds painful for the club tbh.

Is that a Newcastle council direction?

Most of the games were called off before Friday this week. The meeting with northern had already happened so it will be up to them as to what happens from here, I guess it will depend on who can call in the most favours. Magic with a truck load of sand to get a game on, or olympic with a million coaches and old fellas who turn up to nationals trials and hang around the pitch :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:.

Everyone else is just happy there's a resolution to the nil all washouts and the fighting to play games I hope.

[Aegon]

Forever Red is correct. The gate behind the grandstand at Darling St is always unlocked to give public access. If you don't believe it, try calling in and entering through the gate

Valo is also always accessible.

[Goatscheese]

You are dreaming. That is not the case at all, they do not have to remain open to the public, and I have yet to see gates left open anywhere, this would have to be the exception to every other NPL field around if olympic leave the gates open.

There is a hole in the fence, regardless someone did get in and was able to walk and show that it was bone dry and playable.

[Goatscheese]

I don’t know the people at Olympic but they don’t seem the type to call off games to spite Magic, which is what is being suggested here. It just wouldn’t happen so let’s not entertain that thought here as it is dumb.

You're right you don't know the people at Olympic and they are the type to call of games that they don't want to play. Not the first time either, they did it to us 2 years ago so I am not surprised that they don't want to now particularly when their teams are significantly weaker this year. No game played means that their points average won't drop with a loss.

[sapdad]

No game played means that their points average won't drop with a loss.

I cant comment on the ground issue but this match will be replayed wont it?I guess this will be the big test of the revised system.With clubs only having 2 weeks to get all their washouts in no doubt eventually they will need to pick and choose which games get replayed.Does anyone know if its 2 matchdays or if clubs can schedule mid week games within those 2 weeks?If there are nefarious things going on already the situation can develop into a farce very quickly if the rules arent clear.

[Spell Check]

You're right you don't know the people at Olympic and they are the type to call of games that they don't want to play. Not the first time either, they did it to us 2 years ago so I am not surprised that they don't want to now particularly when their teams are significantly weaker this year. No game played means that their points average won't drop with a loss.

If this is a reoccurring issue then Northern need to look into it. Any club not playing games when they can are a disgrace and they are letting down their own players and families, as well as the wider football community.

[Spell Check]

I cant comment on the ground issue but this match will be replayed wont it?I guess this will be the big test of the revised system.With clubs only having 2 weeks to get all their washouts in no doubt eventually they will need to pick and choose which games get replayed.Does anyone know if its 2 matchdays or if clubs can schedule mid week games within those 2 weeks?If there are nefarious things going on already the situation can develop into a farce very quickly if the rules arent clear.

That’s my thoughts that these games will be replayed so can’t see why someone would call it off when they know they’ll play anyway? It effects all youth game not a one-off game.

[traffic light]

That’s my thoughts that these games will be replayed so can’t see why someone would call it off when they know they’ll play anyway? It effects all youth game not a one-off game.

As many games as possible will be caught up. Some may not. Discretion of the overlords etc

[The Hacker]

If this is a reoccurring issue then Northern need to look into it. Any club not playing games when they can are a disgrace and they are letting down their own players and families, as well as the wider football community.

Do we start leaving it in the refs hands or is the fraught with danger

[Spell Check]

Do we start leaving it in the refs hands or is the fraught with danger

We absolutely leave it to the refs. If the Council closes the ground, there are no questions. If clubs can decide it becomes murky. Has to be an independent call.

[ExWhistleMan]

We absolutely leave it to the refs. If the Council closes the ground, there are no questions. If clubs can decide it becomes murky. Has to be an independent call.

Referees only have jurisdiction to call games off if it will be dangerous to play.

Also, let’s give everyone another reason to hate on referees…… great idea