2022 NPL Youth thread

[The Hacker]

Referees only have jurisdiction to call games off if it will be dangerous to play.

Also, let’s give everyone another reason to hate on referees…… great idea

I think on 50/50 or even 60/40 where clubs might be cautious I think the refs are more likely to play. Never seen a ref rock up and call it off unless it’s real bad

[ExWhistleMan]

I think on 50/50 or even 60/40 where clubs might be cautious I think the refs are more likely to play. Never seen a ref rock up and call it off unless itÂ’s real bad

Because referees make their decision based on player safety, not ground longevity.
So basically what youÂ’re saying is all games should go ahead as long as grounds arenÂ’t considered dangerous and ground preservation should be irrelevant?

[Goatscheese]

Referees only have jurisdiction to call games off if it will be dangerous to play.

Also, let’s give everyone another reason to hate on referees…… great idea

Not to mention that some refs are teens, imagine a 15yo getting pressured by a bunch of men to call off or keep on a game.

[sapdad]

Not to mention that some refs are teens, imagine a 15yo getting pressured by a bunch of men to call off or keep on a game.

There was a very recent case where council closed a ground but it wasnt accepted, then the groundsman called it off and it wasnt accepted then the refs called it off and it still wasnt accepted.Luckily the young refs father was there to keep an eye on the people 'advising' the ref to still play the game.Ultimately it was the correct call but if the people involved listened to the original decision maker (council) we wouldnt be putting young officials in these postitions.Definitely a day where the adults didnt cover themselves in much glory lets put it that way.

[KITZ]

There was a very recent case where council closed a ground but it wasnt accepted, then the groundsman called it off and it wasnt accepted then the refs called it off and it still wasnt accepted.Luckily the young refs father was there to keep an eye on the people 'advising' the ref to still play the game.Ultimately it was the correct call but if the people involved listened to the original decision maker (council) we wouldnt be putting young officials in these postitions.Definitely a day where the adults didnt cover themselves in much glory lets put it that way.

I heard about that. I really don’t get the logic in harassing the ref. I hope it was put in his match report as I assume he would still report what happened and it’s dealt with. Clubs will only be fined so many times and repeat offenders will be moved on.

Does anyone know if players under 18 can be fined? Or if there is a fine it goes to the club? I heard there was a bit going on up north in the last couple of weeks?

[sapdad]

I heard about that. I really don’t get the logic in harassing the ref. I hope it was put in his match report as I assume he would still report what happened and it’s dealt with. Clubs will only be fined so many times and repeat offenders will be moved on.

Just to be clear I wasnt accusing anyone of harassment and certainly not anything worth putting in the match report.I just did not like the fact that people werent respecting the authority of people put in charge of making these decisions.Ultimately the referee made their decision on the day and it was respected.I just wish the original decision to close the ground was respected the same way.

[KITZ]

Just to be clear I wasnt accusing anyone of harassment and certainly not anything worth putting in the match report.I just did not like the fact that people werent respecting the authority of people put in charge of making these decisions.Ultimately the referee made their decision on the day and it was respected.I just wish the original decision to close the ground was respected the same way.

maybe it was a different game! But even not, adults pressuring a kid like that considering the power imbalance there is pretty unfortunate.

[YerMate]

Darling street was playable after 3 days of rain for the WNPL youth last night verse Magic but, not playable after 3 days of sunshine for the NPL Youth on Sunday verse Magic. WOW. that video going around may have forced them to play.

[Captain_Carl]

Darling street was playable after 3 days of rain for the WNPL youth last night verse Magic but, not playable after 3 days of sunshine for the NPL Youth on Sunday verse Magic. WOW. that video going around may have forced them to play.

Hats off to whoever took that footage. Olympic were caught with their pants down.

[sapdad]

At least it sounds like the majority of games got on this weekend with a clubs once again offering up alternate grounds which is great.Hopefully the boys now get to see the season out.

[Aegon]

At least it sounds like the majority of games got on this weekend with a clubs once again offering up alternate grounds which is great.Hopefully the boys now get to see the season out.

Good to see Rosebuds get a couple of wins.
Great weekend of football for Maitland against Edgy too.

[Spell Check]

Good to see Rosebuds get a couple of wins.
Great weekend of football for Maitland against Edgy too.

Saw Buds / Cookers share the wins in 14’s and 15’s. Just a damned shame there was nothing to see in the 16’s. Not going over ground but hope Cooker’s get their sh$t together for next year. Can’t be having another year where we have two teams per week with the BYE.

[Jim]

Saw Buds / Cookers share the wins in 14’s and 15’s. Just a damned shame there was nothing to see in the 16’s. Not going over ground but hope Cooker’s get their sh$t together for next year. Can’t be having another year where we have two teams per week with the BYE.

Bye makes a mockery of any comp let alone a supposed elite one. Joke

[sapdad]

Bye makes a mockery of any comp let alone a supposed elite one. Joke

Im not sure why you are so consistently angry about the NPL youth system but Cooks Hill 16s are the only team missing this year and obviously they wont be needed next year anyway so all NPL spots should be filled.The proposed youth restructure will also get rid of byes altogether.Cooks Hill have brought a new TD in and are at least having a go at fixing what has been a disappointing year results wise.From all reports they have a good crop of JDL kids coming into NPL youth next year so considering the relative short notice they had in preparation for this year Im not sure what else anyone expected.Theres been a pretty fair pile on of a few clubs who have struggled this year but from my experience watching week in and week out they are no where near the worst run clubs in the program.

[Jim]

Im not sure why you are so consistently angry about the NPL youth system but Cooks Hill 16s are the only team missing this year and obviously they wont be needed next year anyway so all NPL spots should be filled.The proposed youth restructure will also get rid of byes altogether.Cooks Hill have brought a new TD in and are at least having a go at fixing what has been a disappointing year results wise.From all reports they have a good crop of JDL kids coming into NPL youth next year so considering the relative short notice they had in preparation for this year Im not sure what else anyone expected.Theres been a pretty fair pile on of a few clubs who have struggled this year but from my experience watching week in and week out they are no where near the worst run clubs in the program.

Angry nah. disappointed, very much. And I cant continue to sugar coat this crap. The kids, parents, volunteers, coaches and our city deserve better.

The comp has 2 byes. It's pathetic. A third of the teams arent competitive. Proves my point.

Tell me again what youre trying to defend?

[sapdad]

Angry nah. disappointed, very much. And I cant continue to sugar coat this crap. The kids, parents, volunteers, coaches and our city deserve better.

The comp has 2 byes. It's pathetic. A third of the teams arent competitive. Proves my point.

Tell me again what youre trying to defend?

Defend?I was merely explaining that for one year,one age division has 2 byes.The rest have one.Next year sounds like it wont have any.The age groups Ive watched the most this year 3 teams have a chance in 13s and 1 team has a chance in 14.Of course miracles happen,but what do we do about the rest?Do we yell and scream and carry on at Olympic and Maitland who havent had great results but lost a lot of players to the Jets.Is it a good thing for a club to be producing Jets players?I think so.Do we spend all year approaching opposition players to bolster our club in the hope of winning or do we stick with what we have and try and develop them to their full potential?I look at the clubs who arent winning and see well coached squads,i see next years 12s being an improvement on this years 13 (who are better than this years 14s). This shows progression.But i obviously look at things differently to you,and thats perfectly fine.But more the point is what exactly are you expecting from youth football in this city?Do you want win at all costs?Do you want less teams therefore less opportunites for kids.
Now,take exaclty what I just said and apply it to every league in the world.Its the same.This is just how football is.My advice is if you think three team comps are a joke then dont watch EPL,La Liga,Bundesliga,Ligue 1............the list goes on.Maybe support Major League Baseball theres lots of differnt winners there.Enjoy.

[Spell Check]

Defend?I was merely explaining that for one year,one age division has 2 byes.The rest have one.Next year sounds like it wont have any.The age groups Ive watched the most this year 3 teams have a chance in 13s and 1 team has a chance in 14.Of course miracles happen,but what do we do about the rest?Do we yell and scream and carry on at Olympic and Maitland who havent had great results but lost a lot of players to the Jets.Is it a good thing for a club to be producing Jets players?I think so.Do we spend all year approaching opposition players to bolster our club in the hope of winning or do we stick with what we have and try and develop them to their full potential?I look at the clubs who arent winning and see well coached squads,i see next years 12s being an improvement on this years 13 (who are better than this years 14s). This shows progression.But i obviously look at things differently to you,and thats perfectly fine.But more the point is what exactly are you expecting from youth football in this city?Do you want win at all costs?Do you want less teams therefore less opportunites for kids.
Now,take exaclty what I just said and apply it to every league in the world.Its the same.This is just how football is.My advice is if you think three team comps are a joke then dont watch EPL,La Liga,Bundesliga,Ligue 1............the list goes on.Maybe support Major League Baseball theres lots of differnt winners there.Enjoy.

You seem quite knowledgeable on the kids coming through into youth at Buds and Cookers next year. If they are as good as you say, what chances they stay put at those clubs next season? It’s one thing playing development football at these clubs and another when it becomes a proper comp.

[sapdad]

You seem quite knowledgeable on the kids coming through into youth at Buds and Cookers next year. If they are as good as you say, what chances they stay put at those clubs next season?

Ive seen most 12s squads,and theres lots of good kids across a lot of clubs.Im not involved with either of those clubs so no idea if they will stay and no idea if they will be better than the likes of Magic/Jaffas/Olympic etc.My point was that its one thing to look down on the clubs who dont get results and its another to see that at least they are trying something.I personally think theres one club at the moment that does the best job at recruiting,playing and results.I hate the clubs that spend all year kicking one set of kids out and replacing them with another,but do we blame the club or the parents that chase results?I feel sorry for clubs that lose their best talent to the Jets and have to rebuild quickly.I love clubs that have a clear direction with their coaching and playing style (Valentine being a great example).All I want to see is that the kids get the very best opportunities available and we as parents and (especially forum commentators at arms length) just relax a little bit and let the kids play and do their best.

[Aegon]

Ive seen most 12s squads,and theres lots of good kids across a lot of clubs.Im not involved with either of those clubs so no idea if they will stay and no idea if they will be better than the likes of Magic/Jaffas/Olympic etc.My point was that its one thing to look down on the clubs who dont get results and its another to see that at least they are trying something.I personally think theres one club at the moment that does the best job at recruiting,playing and results.I hate the clubs that spend all year kicking one set of kids out and replacing them with another,but do we blame the club or the parents that chase results?I feel sorry for clubs that lose their best talent to the Jets and have to rebuild quickly.I love clubs that have a clear direction with their coaching and playing style (Valentine being a great example).All I want to see is that the kids get the very best opportunities available and we as parents and (especially forum commentators at arms length) just relax a little bit and let the kids play and do their best.

It would be nice to see players stay at clubs with more consistency but there are no real regulations or controls in place to limit it.
At the end of the day club Youth TD’s are judged on their results not their loyalty. So you can’t blame any of them for trying to get the best players.

One clubs TD was even at 12’s TSP training this week taking notes.

13’s next year will be very interesting. I think there is potential of 6-8 teams challenging for finals football. Who the clubs are that will be the strongest probably depends on who loses the least players.

Based on this years squads:
Jaffas, Azzurri, Edgy, Olympic & Magic are very strong. Each of them will take a big hit if they lose their best 2-3 players to the Jets though.

Maitland, Weston, Buds, Cooks Hill etc could also be very good with just a little bit of improvement.

[Hurricane]

It would be nice to see players stay at clubs with more consistency but there are no real regulations or controls in place to limit it.
At the end of the day club Youth TD’s are judged on their results not their loyalty. So you can’t blame any of them for trying to get the best players.

One clubs TD was even at 12’s TSP training this week taking notes.

13’s next year will be very interesting. I think there is potential of 6-8 teams challenging for finals football. Who the clubs are that will be the strongest probably depends on who loses the least players.

Based on this years squads:
Jaffas, Azzurri, Edgy, Olympic & Magic are very strong. Each of them will take a big hit if they lose their best 2-3 players to the Jets though.

Maitland, Weston, Buds, Cooks Hill etc could also be very good with just a little bit of improvement.
Maybe you need to revisit the tables in youth. Azzurri are in the bottom half of the table in every grade and Jaffas have only their 13's side in the top 4 and the rest are well down the table. I would hardly rate that as very strong

[Aegon]

Maybe you need to revisit the tables in youth. Azzurri are in the bottom half of the table in every grade and Jaffas have only their 13's side in the top 4 and the rest are well down the table. I would hardly rate that as very strong

I was talking about next years 13’s

[Cunning stunts]

I was talking about next years 13’s

I have also seen all of the 12s teams this year and i will have to say i think

Based on this years squads:
Azzurri, Edgy are clearly the stronger teams - Olympic & Jaffas are next with Magic and Maitland very close.

Weston and Cooks Hills etc could also improve but i would say there 12s would need a large improvement to compete regularly with the above squads.

Side not: is the decoupling happening next year? if so i believe Azzurri Youth aren't in division 1? (i could be wrong though)

[Jim]

Defend?I was merely explaining that for one year,one age division has 2 byes.The rest have one.Next year sounds like it wont have any.The age groups Ive watched the most this year 3 teams have a chance in 13s and 1 team has a chance in 14.Of course miracles happen,but what do we do about the rest?Do we yell and scream and carry on at Olympic and Maitland who havent had great results but lost a lot of players to the Jets.Is it a good thing for a club to be producing Jets players?I think so.Do we spend all year approaching opposition players to bolster our club in the hope of winning or do we stick with what we have and try and develop them to their full potential?I look at the clubs who arent winning and see well coached squads,i see next years 12s being an improvement on this years 13 (who are better than this years 14s). This shows progression.But i obviously look at things differently to you,and thats perfectly fine.But more the point is what exactly are you expecting from youth football in this city?Do you want win at all costs?Do you want less teams therefore less opportunites for kids.
Now,take exaclty what I just said and apply it to every league in the world.Its the same.This is just how football is.My advice is if you think three team comps are a joke then dont watch EPL,La Liga,Bundesliga,Ligue 1............the list goes on.Maybe support Major League Baseball theres lots of differnt winners there.Enjoy.

Im still not blaming any club here.
But you are accepting mediocrity.
16s with 2 byes is still stupidity no excuses and thinking that the other years are ok is embarrassing.
The competition amongst the other years is also too lopsided and until we get 12 competitive teams eg enough kids to want to fill this then we need less clubs in each division.

We can do better. Our clubs are set up fail by the football structure set about by NNSW and even maybe by some clubs who are all clambering to be in the top grade but we can't sustain a good playing model.

I see 8 teams from a club championship in 2 or 3 divisions, decoupled from seniors and have promotion and relegation from that.

Should we try a southern Lakes development squad in there so kids from Tronno Morritown and surrounding areas can develop then go to their senior clubs later? There are plenty of options to try to get good quality kids into the top grades and actually be competitive each week.

[Aegon]

I have also seen all of the 12s teams this year and i will have to say i think

Based on this years squads:
Azzurri, Edgy are clearly the stronger teams - Olympic & Jaffas are next with Magic and Maitland very close.

Weston and Cooks Hills etc could also improve but i would say there 12s would need a large improvement to compete regularly with the above squads.

Side not: is the decoupling happening next year? if so i believe Azzurri Youth aren't in division 1? (i could be wrong though)

It is in my opinion a much more balanced age group than others around it.

Weston have been excellent in the last month or two keeping Edgy and Magic scoreless. One Cooks hill and one New Lambton side always give a really good account of themselves. Maitland would be one of the strongest squads if they didn't have 5 or so kids playing up for this years NPL 13's. Any team from the ones I listed in my previous post is capable of being the best team on a given day.

Hopefully next years 13's shows us that the JDL model is creating more depth of talent and in the long run a better competition.

[Goatscheese]

considering the relative short notice they had in preparation for this year Im not sure what else anyone expected.

Not sure about that, they had been pushing to be moved into NPL for quite awhile and would've been showing Northern why they were ready to make the step up. It wasn't something that should've come as a surprise

[Hurricane]

I was talking about next years 13’s
Sorry misread it,would definitely agree about next year's 13's

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[KITZ]

Im still not blaming any club here.
But you are accepting mediocrity.
16s with 2 byes is still stupidity no excuses and thinking that the other years are ok is embarrassing.
The competition amongst the other years is also too lopsided and until we get 12 competitive teams eg enough kids to want to fill this then we need less clubs in each division.

We can do better. Our clubs are set up fail by the football structure set about by NNSW and even maybe by some clubs who are all clambering to be in the top grade but we can't sustain a good playing model.

I see 8 teams from a club championship in 2 or 3 divisions, decoupled from seniors and have promotion and relegation from that.

Should we try a southern Lakes development squad in there so kids from Tronno Morritown and surrounding areas can develop then go to their senior clubs later? There are plenty of options to try to get good quality kids into the top grades and actually be competitive each week.

Honestly anyone with kids in the 16s should be annoyed. Last year it was lakes, this year its cooks. parents aren't getting a discount for missing games out of the season, It was extra disappointing that once they found out that cooks couldn't put a team together they couldn't have scheduled the two teams with the bye to play each other. somewhere every week was finishing a game at 15's and had field availability.

In this instance it's really not good enough and extra concerning if they are considering bringing NL up next year, another whole club of teams when we have had the last two years with teams missing in that age group. The proposed solution is that any club who can't field a team can't play in the top division, but when those decisions are made not long before the season starts where do the rest of the kids go? which leads into....

Changing the order of the EOI's and retention, having clubs open and close EOI before kids at clubs have been at least been notified if they are being retained or not to stay the next season is so backwards and causes so many hassles for players. Is there a better solution? I assume its maybe fairly stable in JDL until 12's (and in the girls space) but for the boys its always a ****fight.

[Aegon]

I assume its maybe fairly stable in JDL until 12's (and in the girls space) but for the boys its always a ****fight.

Depends on the club, in my young lads U12 squad only 3 of the boys who started in Under 9's have been there for 4 years.

[sapdad]

Changing the order of the EOI's and retention, having clubs open and close EOI before kids at clubs have been at least been notified if they are being retained or not to stay the next season is so backwards and causes so many hassles for players. Is there a better solution? I assume its maybe fairly stable in JDL until 12's (and in the girls space) but for the boys its always a ****fight.

It doesnt really matter about the rules around retention and EOI's.One of my sons teammates got approached in the first 6 weeks of NPL youth to move clubs next year.There was a lot more movement in JDL than I thought between both clubs moving players on and players themselves choosing to go.I would love to know the average amount of kids that went from JDL 9's all the way through to 13's NPL at the same club.Would assume it would be around the same amount as Aegon had.

[traffic light]

It doesnt really matter about the rules around retention and EOI's.One of my sons teammates got approached in the first 6 weeks of NPL youth to move clubs next year.There was a lot more movement in JDL than I thought between both clubs moving players on and players themselves choosing to go.I would love to know the average amount of kids that went from JDL 9's all the way through to 13's NPL at the same club.Would assume it would be around the same amount as Aegon had.
It was never about picking 22 and keeping them all together.
I don't see movement as a problem if instigated by parents or players. There are many reasons to move on when striving at the higher end of sport.
If kids prefer to stay with mates great. If those mates prefer to seek different coaches, players, experiences, great.

My main problem is a few clubs taking the current best to create a lopsided and often a product that wont help players develop because there's no greater opposition. But I see that happening less as more players are developing greater skills. The current 12s is a good example.

[traffic light]

Not sure about that, they had been pushing to be moved into NPL for quite awhile and would've been showing Northern why they were ready to make the step up. It wasn't something that should've come as a surprise

agree, should never have got to that spot. But I think CH will fix this knowing they have a very active committee

[sapdad]

It was never about picking 22 and keeping them all together.
I don't see movement as a problem if instigated by parents or players. There are many reasons to move on when striving at the higher end of sport.
If kids prefer to stay with mates great. If those mates prefer to seek different coaches, players, experiences, great.

My main problem is a few clubs taking the current best to create a lopsided and often a product that wont help players develop because there's no greater opposition. But I see that happening less as more players are developing greater skills. The current 12s is a good example.

I agree,my son moved clubs and there was no problem with either party when it happened.The skill improvement is noticeable already in my opinion and hopefully every age group coming through is better than the one before it.Even in the teams at the bottom of the ladder there are plenty of really good kids who will be fine getting all the way through til 16s.The challenge as you mentioned will be hoping the good kids in the lower clubs stay and everyone improves rather than stacking the top few teams.One thing Ive seen in small doses is there is a little bit of discontent in some kids spending way too much time on the bench or out of position even though they are winning lots of games.It would be interesting if they bite the bullet and go to a lower team to get better opportunites.We'll soon see once trials and EOI's kick off.

[Spell Check]

Lots of chatter in here a few months back about New Lambton parents and youth wanting no part of NPL. Has that viewed changed now its here? I don't see the players all running off to Southy to play down a level. My guess is they'll be no exodos. And with Clacka and the money at the club maybe a few of the other local clubs might start to see some of their players going the other way? Interesting times ahead

[Aegon]

Lots of chatter in here a few months back about New Lambton parents and youth wanting no part of NPL. Has that viewed changed now its here? I don't see the players all running off to Southy to play down a level. My guess is they'll be no exodos. And with Clacka and the money at the club maybe a few of the other local clubs might start to see some of their players going the other way? Interesting times ahead

Congrats and well done to new Lambton - My main concern is that there is a big concentration of clubs in a small geographical location.

Are there enough players in the Greater Newcastle region to sustain 6 NPL youth teams even considering players coming in from Lake Macquarie or the Valley?

[sapdad]

Lots of chatter in here a few months back about New Lambton parents and youth wanting no part of NPL. Has that viewed changed now its here? I don't see the players all running off to Southy to play down a level. My guess is they'll be no exodos. And with Clacka and the money at the club maybe a few of the other local clubs might start to see some of their players going the other way? Interesting times ahead

Id say the majority of existing players will be there for year 1.After that they will find themselves back in 2nd div youth anyway but they will get much better competition from the likes of Lakes/Adamstown and Cookers.It will be a good thing for them long term.

[BS detecor]

Id say the majority of existing players will be there for year 1.After that they will find themselves back in 2nd div youth anyway but they will get much better competition from the likes of Lakes/Adamstown and Cookers.It will be a good thing for them long term.

All the more reason why decoupling has to happen regardless of which clubs are scared of it otherwise it’s just another team that will be fodder for the top 6

[sapdad]

All the more reason why decoupling has to happen regardless of which clubs are scared of it otherwise it’s just another team that will be fodder for the top 6

Totally agree.

[finzee]

Youth club championship standings.
Olympic biggest improvers since the wet weather 0-0 games scrapped. Lowers clubs losing their washout draws now they are being played.

1789

[KITZ]

All the more reason why decoupling has to happen regardless of which clubs are scared of it otherwise it’s just another team that will be fodder for the top 6

The main concern for myself is northern having the rules for rescheduled and washed out games sorted BEFORE the competition starts and a risk mitigation plan for significant issues etc that prevent games being played. I can understand why clubs are concerned when rules are made up on the fly that can have significant effects on competition standings (since wins will determine which competition clubs sit in for the second part of the year). The competition rules need to be far clearer and northern much more in control of what's going on to stop it becoming the Wild West of football, because it will only get worse once its decoupled.

I would think that after recent events (and covid) that most reasonable people would understand why clubs on the whole would hesitate to throw their support behind it unconditionally, without some clear planning in place.

[Goatscheese]

The main concern for myself is northern having the rules for rescheduled and washed out games sorted BEFORE the competition starts and a risk mitigation plan for significant issues etc that prevent games being played. I can understand why clubs are concerned when rules are made up on the fly that can have significant effects on competition standings (since wins will determine which competition clubs sit in for the second part of the year). The competition rules need to be far clearer and northern much more in control of what's going on to stop it becoming the Wild West of football, because it will only get worse once its decoupled.

I would think that after recent events (and covid) that most reasonable people would understand why clubs on the whole would hesitate to throw their support behind it unconditionally, without some clear planning in place.

The clubs are only using that as an excuse, 3 years ago they would've just come up with some other reason why it can't happen. Deep down it is because they feel it may affect their club and are too short sighted to see what damage the status quo will do to game in the region

[BS detecor]

The main concern for myself is northern having the rules for rescheduled and washed out games sorted BEFORE the competition starts and a risk mitigation plan for significant issues etc that prevent games being played. I can understand why clubs are concerned when rules are made up on the fly that can have significant effects on competition standings (since wins will determine which competition clubs sit in for the second part of the year). The competition rules need to be far clearer and northern much more in control of what's going on to stop it becoming the Wild West of football, because it will only get worse once its decoupled.

I would think that after recent events (and covid) that most reasonable people would understand why clubs on the whole would hesitate to throw their support behind it unconditionally, without some clear planning in place.

If I’m in charge my response would be I hear your concerns but this is happening so get used to it

[sapdad]

If I’m in charge my response would be I hear your concerns but this is happening so get used to it

I honestly dont know why there would be pushback.There are 3 clear groups in youth from NPL down to NL1.It cannot be more perfectly lined up.I have no idea why clubs dont think its at least worth a shot.

[Aegon]

I honestly dont know why there would be pushback.There are 3 clear groups in youth from NPL down to NL1.It cannot be more perfectly lined up.I have no idea why clubs dont think its at least worth a shot.

It will enforce some accountability that some are not willing to face.

[The Berlin Wall]

What's this I'm hearing about Valo building a "super squad" for u13's next year?!!! Azzurri coaches taking a whole team from that club 12's and offering every kid and dad at TSP a spot in youth there for the next 4 years? & those coaches locked themselves in for 4 years as well?!!!!

Can't be many spots for those Valo kids who been busting a gut and doing it hard there for the last couple.

@Goatscheese - where you at buddy?

:popcorn:

[sapdad]

What's this I'm hearing about Valo building a "super squad" for u13's next year?!!! Azzurri coaches taking a whole team from that club 12's and offering every kid and dad at TSP a spot in youth there for the next 4 years? & those coaches locked themselves in for 4 years as well?!!!!

Can't be many spots for those Valo kids who been busting a gut and doing it hard there for the last couple.

@Goatscheese - where you at buddy?

:popcorn:

This is what JDL has become for a few clubs.Instead of continually developing kids they decide its time to win and throw everything out.As always the clubs,coaches and parents deserve all the scorn that comes with it but the kids are the ones who will wear it.To be fair though its not as if Valo have invented this approach this type of thing has been going on for years at other clubs.Hopefully the kids who are being turfed at Valo get their names down at as many other clubs as possible and trial.They will get a spot somewhere and hopefully dont get lost to the game.A small warning to the Charlestown parents who think they are on a good thing just remember if your kid is a benchwarmer,or they dont win in 13s then the cycle will be repeated and your kid will be replaced so dont burn too many bridges on the way out.

[matjpacker]

This is what JDL has become for a few clubs….so dont burn too many bridges on the way out.

Good advice for a lot of parents, I’ve seen a few in the last couple of seasons where they’ve completely torched the bridge on the way out because they hadn’t read a refund policy, or some other document, and have made assumptions on how they think things work. It’s sad because ultimately it’s the kids that suffer…

[jim wallis]

The whole club loyalty thing is a joke for most at this level. Politics and looking for a better deal will ensure this keeps happening.

Many parents want their child to be aligned with winning teams, certain coaches and getting their kid to or near the top for whatever reason.
It is what it is.

Maybe the Valo kids can go to Azurri, fair few spots available. But tbh most of the Valo 12s kids wouldn't have made 13s and they knew this.
Welcome to JDL/NPL. You are temporary.

[Aegon]

This is what JDL has become for a few clubs.Instead of continually developing kids they decide its time to win and throw everything out.As always the clubs,coaches and parents deserve all the scorn that comes with it but the kids are the ones who will wear it.To be fair though its not as if Valo have invented this approach this type of thing has been going on for years at other clubs.Hopefully the kids who are being turfed at Valo get their names down at as many other clubs as possible and trial.They will get a spot somewhere and hopefully dont get lost to the game.A small warning to the Charlestown parents who think they are on a good thing just remember if your kid is a benchwarmer,or they dont win in 13s then the cycle will be repeated and your kid will be replaced so dont burn too many bridges on the way out.

To be fair the vast majority of this years Valo 13's came from their JDL. Recent seasons have seen somewhat of an exodus of players from their JDL ranks (local kids are now playing at Edgy, Olympic, Jaffas, Magic, Azzurri, etc) but they have taken steps to address that from next season with committee personnel changes and getting the right people into some crucial roles going forward.

[jim wallis]

To be fair the vast majority of this years Valo 13's came from their JDL. Recent seasons have seen somewhat of an exodus of players from their JDL ranks (local kids are now playing at Edgy, Olympic, Jaffas, Magic, Azzurri, etc) but they have taken steps to address that from next season with committee personnel changes and getting the right people into some crucial roles going forward.

Whenever a club steps up to make 'their" club stronger it's usually at the expense of another.
I have however, noticed that the pool of talent is greater now due to the large JDL pool of players.

[sapdad]

But tbh most of the Valo 12s kids wouldn't have made 13s and they knew this.


This is the bit that always intrigues me.So Valo have had 4 years to put together a good team for 13s but at the last minute kick them all out.Doesnt this say that Valo as a club hasnt done a very good job with their JDL program?But all of a sudden they will be seen as good because they jag a few extra wins?Valo have already been using quite a few 12's up in 13s NPL this year wonder if they will stay up or be used in this new superteam?It will be interesting to see next year when they inevitably finish 3rd or 4th and one of the clubs above them comes poaching their talent.The local superteam in 13s who poached a lot of talent this year (and kicked out a lot of their JDL kids) are already recruiting for next season.Hope they've already told the kids they are kicking out because theres going to be some real angry dads on facebook once it gets out.

[sapdad]

To be fair the vast majority of this years Valo 13's came from their JDL. Recent seasons have seen somewhat of an exodus of players from their JDL ranks (local kids are now playing at Edgy, Olympic, Jaffas, Magic, Azzurri, etc) but they have taken steps to address that from next season with committee personnel changes and getting the right people into some crucial roles going forward.

I understand how the system works and understand why they are doing it.I dont have any problem with kids/parents changing clubs.Im just hoping they understand the cycle they are getting into it can be pretty cruel.

[sapdad]

Valo 13s and 14s (I dont see the other grades) are doing well this year.They play good football, are well coached and are on a really good development program.I just hope bringing in a different attitude towards winning vs development doesnt go south for them.Only one team can win the trophy every year.

[The Hacker]

This is what JDL has become for a few clubs.Instead of continually developing kids they decide its time to win and throw everything out.As always the clubs,coaches and parents deserve all the scorn that comes with it but the kids are the ones who will wear it.To be fair though its not as if Valo have invented this approach this type of thing has been going on for years at other clubs.Hopefully the kids who are being turfed at Valo get their names down at as many other clubs as possible and trial.They will get a spot somewhere and hopefully dont get lost to the game.A small warning to the Charlestown parents who think they are on a good thing just remember if your kid is a benchwarmer,or they dont win in 13s then the cycle will be repeated and your kid will be replaced so dont burn too many bridges on the way out.

This will be the new norm with pro/rel clubs will be on the hunt to finish in a certain position at the expense of kids that may have been there for 4 yrs

[sapdad]

This will be the new norm with pro/rel clubs will be on the hunt to finish in a certain position at the expense of kids that may have been there for 4 yrs

For the most part Im ok with it,kids should be striving to compete at their highest level.The new proposed youth system gives those 8 teams that are closer to winning a better chance and the clubs that need to develop will be looked after.But clubs need to be careful what they wish for.

[Spell Check]

The whole club loyalty thing is a joke for most at this level. Politics and looking for a better deal will ensure this keeps happening.

Many parents want their child to be aligned with winning teams, certain coaches and getting their kid to or near the top for whatever reason.
It is what it is.

Maybe the Valo kids can go to Azurri, fair few spots available. But tbh most of the Valo 12s kids wouldn't have made 13s and they knew this.
Welcome to JDL/NPL. You are temporary.

The whole idea of this move is interesting on lots of levels. Did the Azzurri coaches/players leave Azzurri because of the proposed decoupling and didn't want to play in the second tier comp? On the latest club championship ladder Valo sneak in the top 8 and Azzurri miss out.

Assume also that Valo was the only option for this move to happen. Which other club in the top 8 would take a whole team from another club? Not sure how many kids in a SAP team these days but it must be 10-12. Is every player going across? That's quite a number if true.

[sapdad]

The whole idea of this move is interesting on lots of levels. Did the Azzurri coaches/players leave Azzurri because of the proposed decoupling and didn't want to play in the second tier comp? On the latest club championship ladder Valo sneak in the top 8 and Azzurri miss out.


This is an interesting test case for the new system.Valo 13s this year are sitting on that cut line and would be in the top division next season.But they havent won a game against anyone above them on the ladder.So assuming they will struggle to win games in the top division next season what does that then do to the club/coaches and parents that are there to win?Do we see an exodus of players either from parents/kids not liking losing every game or from coaches who dont think their kids are good enough.Meanwhile a club likes Charlestown goes down and gets a half year of equivalent competition with plenty of wins.Wonder who thinks they will be in the better position after all of it.

[Eastwest]

This is the bit that always intrigues me.So Valo have had 4 years to put together a good team for 13s but at the last minute kick them all out.Doesnt this say that Valo as a club hasnt done a very good job with their JDL program?

Maybe not. Many of those lads came and went during those 4 years. So this could be a patched up 12s group many of whom are deemed to be not really at level.

Granted, they have improved during this year alone which is a good thing for that club. Its a tough one no matter how you look at it.

Are we really worried that club A is now weak and club B are now strong? This is a cycle.

Lets not forget that even the current strongest clubs are a collaboration of kids who spent many years developing at other clubs.

We seem to ignore the slow burn and get annoyed when it happens en masse.

as always everyone can free to ignore this big picture....

[Eastwest]

Wonder who thinks they will be in the better position after all of it.

Remember, it's the unknown excitement of the journey. The highs, the lows, the promises, the regrets.

I'd hate to be stuck at one club hoping something big will happen unless my good mates are there.

Ask the kids, theyll tell you where they want to be. Give them the full story and options of whats happening. They are experts of their own welfare and know more than what we credit them for.

Except when they turn down a good career opp to go surfing, then they are young idiots who are having more fun then me.

[sapdad]

Remember, it's the unknown excitement of the journey. The highs, the lows, the promises, the regrets.

I'd hate to be stuck at one club hoping something big will happen unless my good mates are there.

Ask the kids, theyll tell you where they want to be. Give them the full story and options of whats happening. They are experts of their own welfare and know more than what we credit them for.

I agree,and my eldest is going through this at the moment.Hes seen most of it already.Being involved in JDL/NPL has been one of the best things to happen to him.

[Goatscheese]

Maybe not. Many of those lads came and went during those 4 years. So this could be a patched up 12s group many of whom are deemed to be not really at level.

Granted, they have improved during this year alone which is a good thing for that club..

Having watched them the past month they have not only been competitive against other strong JDL teams linked to NPL clubs but have beaten them

The Valo team play the Charlestown team at the end of the season, will be some questions raised if the game is close or Valo win.

The other U12s team at Azzurri will be happy to hear that the better kids are off to another club

[Aegon]

Northern NSW Football is excited to announce the decoupling of its youth football from senior football along with the launch of a new youth competition structure for boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74V0up4XGc

[The Berlin Wall]

Having watched them the past month they have not only been competitive against other strong JDL teams linked to NPL clubs but have beaten them

The Valo team play the Charlestown team at the end of the season, will be some questions raised if the game is close or Valo win.

The other U12s team at Azzurri will be happy to hear that the better kids are off to another club

I'm told 4 kids in Valo JDL have played for 13's this year, a couple of them multiple times. Are these kids going to be kept on?

Unlikely, as the Azzurri boys are not only taking their whole squad they are offering spots to loads of other kids as well. Valo might have a squad of 20 in 13's next year... but none from their own 12's.

[sapdad]

Northern NSW Football is excited to announce the decoupling of its youth football from senior football along with the launch of a new youth competition structure for boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74V0up4XGc

Well done to NNSW.I think this is a really important step forward.

[sapdad]

I'm told 4 kids in Valo JDL have played for 13's this year, a couple of them multiple times. Are these kids going to be kept on?

Unlikely, as the Azzurri boys are not only taking their whole squad they are offering spots to loads of other kids as well. Valo might have a squad of 20 in 13's next year... but none from their own 12's.

Yes,ive seen them play and they are good enough to be in a good 13s next season.Plenty of clubs will pick them up if Valo are too silly to keep them.

[Hunter403]

NNSW have formally announced that decoupling will occur for next season!

[Aegon]

I'm told 4 kids in Valo JDL have played for 13's this year, a couple of them multiple times. Are these kids going to be kept on?

Unlikely, as the Azzurri boys are not only taking their whole squad they are offering spots to loads of other kids as well. Valo might have a squad of 20 in 13's next year... but none from their own 12's.

There are at least 4 u12's playing up permanently in Valo u13's NPL from what I have seen, only 2 kids have played up from the u12's JDL squad that I know if.

[samcan]

After the 1st round the comp breaks into 3 divs of 8. Div1 and the top 4 from div2 starts in the top div the following year.

Thats a decent model.

[Mad with football]

Re the Valo/Azzurri u12 teams for U13 NPL I have it from a really ‘close’ source that the issue isxAzzurri wanted the U12 boys ALL to trial and as Valo offerred spots it was a fairly easy decision-just don’t understand Azurri’s stance - the boys been with them for years ‘trialling’. Crazy decision from Azurri executive
yes have a trial for some potential new players but lock in your best kids - whole idea of SAP/JDL is for clubs to develop youngsters as footballers but also install some club pride/culture into them so they stay and want to play for club to the highest level they can, then with the bigger picture clubs won’t have to pay $1000+ a game like they are now to ‘mercenaries’ with no loyalty

[samcan]

Whole idea of SAP/JDL is for clubs to develop youngsters as footballers but also install some club pride/culture into them so they stay and want to play for club to the highest level they can, then with the bigger picture clubs won’t have to pay $1000+ a game like they are now to ‘mercenaries’ with no loyalty

If another club offers $1000 that junior of 8 years will still leave. Staying for peanuts gets old real quick.

[KITZ]

Re the Valo/Azzurri u12 teams for U13 NPL I have it from a really ‘close’ source that the issue isxAzzurri wanted the U12 boys ALL to trial and as Valo offerred spots it was a fairly easy decision-just don’t understand Azurri’s stance - the boys been with them for years ‘trialling’. Crazy decision from Azurri executive
yes have a trial for some potential new players but lock in your best kids - whole idea of SAP/JDL is for clubs to develop youngsters as footballers but also install some club pride/culture into them so they stay and want to play for club to the highest level they can, then with the bigger picture clubs won’t have to pay $1000+ a game like they are now to ‘mercenaries’ with no loyalty

They also did this with the JDL girls, then I found out they had offered an entire team of 15's/16's boys places with no trial, needless to say we decided not to stay, theres no planet kids in the JDL space need that sort of stress put on them, let alone in the girls where theres not enough players to go around as is.

Not sure on what planet kids want to hang around to wait to trial (and mind you these trials are generally AFTER all the other clubs have had theres so it would literally leave kids with trying to find somewhere to take them). I really hope they can sort this out a bit better - give the kids clear feedback and just have some sort of organisation to this part of the season, just seems difficult for the sake of being difficult - to pretty much no ones benefit.

[Jim]

Re the Valo/Azzurri u12 teams for U13 NPL I have it from a really ‘close’ source that the issue isxAzzurri wanted the U12 boys ALL to trial and as Valo offerred spots it was a fairly easy decision-just don’t understand Azurri’s stance - the boys been with them for years ‘trialling’. Crazy decision from Azurri executive
Just a thought.

So maybe Azzurri were playing the equity card by giving insiders no favours by having trials have inadvertently shot themselves in the foot?
And supposing this might be true, what does the club now think of the trial decision and the result of the decision?

Maybe they wanted this to happen. Someone will know.

[Jim]

Not sure the 18's will be happy. Quite a few play 18's and reserves, will they still be considered part of the senior squad? - its also a VERY long day for volunteers starting at 7-8am turn up for 13's and 16s don't finish till 4, that means a 6pm - 7pm finish on that day? Wonder how thought through that was. I mean its nice to be able to push 16s up to 18s without the game day conflicts (as currently 18s often play at the same time and day as the 16s), but I'm not sure if its easily resolved.

18s are in youth. Tough luck.They can still back up ressies on another day


18’s will stay with seniors. That was sorted after final consultation with clubs

Thanks Baz ya dill.

[Spell Check]

Northern NSW Football is excited to announce the decoupling of its youth football from senior football along with the launch of a new youth competition structure for boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74V0up4XGc

I am supportive of all the changes coming but do fear what the extra games might do to rego fees across the board. More coaching, ground use etc probably equals higher fees. Let's hope clubs surprise us.

[terry]

I am supportive of all the changes coming but do fear what the extra games might do to rego fees across the board. More coaching, ground use etc probably equals higher fees. Let's hope clubs surprise us.

Agree. There needs to be a review on the unnecessary fees being taken.
Is council taking an unfair slice like at Mayfield junior? Should we be paying the FA levy for nothing? Should we be paying 1st grade from JDL PYL?
Could clubs drive harder for sponsors? The Hunter brings in billions for the govt, we should be claiming some of that for our communities.
Can clubs cut expenses like paying old club stalwarts and hangers on?
And most importantly, WHY is there no money flowing from the Top? Corporates and TV deals. There's plenty of $$$ skimming right there.

Yep, some clubs would have done most of this already.

What's a fair rego cost in 2023?

[northern_swan]

And most importantly, WHY is there no money flowing from the Top? Corporates and TV deals. There's plenty of $$$ skimming right there

On this point...AFL & NRL pull $200m per annum on their TV rights. A-League pulls $30m.

Plenty of this money for AFL & NRL flows down. The A League money is lucky to pay the bills at that level. Can guarantee the A League aint skimming money

[Eastwest]

Plenty of this money for AFL & NRL flows down. The A League money is lucky to pay the bills at that level. Can guarantee the A League aint skimming money

Can guarantee there's corporate deadwood earning big bucks not doing much.And yes the AL tv deal is a POS to start with.

[sapdad]

The ground at Darling street seemed fine to play on last night.Home team didnt seem too scared to play at all.

[Spell Check]

The ground at Darling street seemed fine to play on last night.Home team didnt seem too scared to play at all.

Ages?

[KITZ]

I can't find the post with the club championship in it to reply to it, but wondering what it looks like if you include the 18s?

[sapdad]

I can't find the post with the club championship in it to reply to it, but wondering what it looks like if you include the 18s?

No Mid or North Coast changes things but Charlestown would be a little worse off, Jaffas, Edgy and Adamstown would be a little better off.Everyone else would remain about the same position.

[Lichael Richards]

Ages?

13s, 15s

[terry]

Youth club championship standings.

1789

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[terry]

I am supportive of all the changes coming but do fear what the extra games might do to rego fees across the board. More coaching, ground use etc probably equals higher fees. Let's hope clubs surprise us.

We dont deserve higher fees. Let ones private insurance negate the dodgy football insurance

[finzee]

I can't find the post with the club championship in it to reply to it, but wondering what it looks like if you include the 18s?

1791

Sorted by points per-game as CH, NC and MC are missing grades

[Goatscheese]

Not right for Valentine to have a whinge about the young ref (who actually made the right call) when they disallowed their goal. Of course this is after the Valentine coached abused the ref a number of times during the game. Poor kid, someone needs to rein the coach in, it won't be the club they support him since it isn't the first time.

[KITZ]

Not right for Valentine to have a whinge about the young ref (who actually made the right call) when they disallowed their goal. Of course this is after the Valentine coached abused the ref a number of times during the game. Poor kid, someone needs to rein the coach in, it won't be the club they support him since it isn't the first time.

Don't expect too much, have you seen the rubbish the club allows to be posted in the match reports in the past few weeks? Have a look at the one from last week.

It's embarrassing that the coach writes it in the first place, but to not have another adult with some sense proof read them before posting is ridiculous, talking about pulling down the pants of a minor, its gross, even if I get the context, pick some better words.

[KITZ]

1791

Sorted by points per-game as CH, NC and MC are missing grades

Awesome, thanks heaps! forgot that there would be missing clubs. Wonder how that's going to go next season.

[sapdad]

Don't expect too much, have you seen the rubbish the club allows to be posted in the match reports in the past few weeks? Have a look at the one from last week.

It's embarrassing that the coach writes it in the first place, but to not have another adult with some sense proof read them before posting is ridiculous, talking about pulling down the pants of a minor, its gross, even if I get the context, pick some better words.

I dont think there is a worse combination than Facebook and youth sport.

[sapdad]

Awesome, thanks heaps! forgot that there would be missing clubs. Wonder how that's going to go next season.

There wont be as far as standings are concerned.The top 8 will remain the same and the rest should get some good lessons against the best in NL1.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I dont think there is a worse combination than Facebook and youth sport.

Imagine if they could post all their slander and opinions “anonymously”.

[Raymond019]

Not right for Valentine to have a whinge about the young ref (who actually made the right call) when they disallowed their goal. Of course this is after the Valentine coached abused the ref a number of times during the game. Poor kid, someone needs to rein the coach in, it won't be the club they support him since it isn't the first time.

As a parent of a young referee, some of the comments and abuse, I've personally heard, towards these young kids just out there doing their best is disgraceful. Its not only team officials but some parents are just as bad. I get that referees make mistakes but the abuse and comments are not warranted. Half the problem is the referee makes the correct decision and because players, coaches and spectators don't know the Laws of the Game they think the wrong decision has been made and that's when the abuse starts.

Imagine the outrage if the players copped some of the abuse the referees did.

[Goatscheese]

Don't expect too much, have you seen the rubbish the club allows to be posted in the match reports in the past few weeks? Have a look at the one from last week.

It's embarrassing that the coach writes it in the first place, but to not have another adult with some sense proof read them before posting is ridiculous, talking about pulling down the pants of a minor, its gross, even if I get the context, pick some better words.

Guess it shows how toxic the club is, the U16s coach has abused young refs in the past to the point of tears, abused opposition players and the club stands by him and so condone and support the behaviour.

[BS detecor]

Guess it shows how toxic the club is, the U16s coach has abused young refs in the past to the point of tears, abused opposition players and the club stands by him and so condone and support the behaviour.

I wouldn’t blame the whole club for 1 poorly behaved coach. I don’t know a club that doesn’t have at least 1 touchline tool

[BBscone]

I wouldn’t blame the whole club for 1 poorly behaved coach. I don’t know a club that doesn’t have at least 1 touchline toolIf this adult sees fit to call out a young official publically for their errors, why not call him out. Who is he? What has he done in the game, did he actually ever play himself? Easy to be critical when your football experience extends to getting a piece a paper and watching ESPN. Too many false ego's in local football, those two tools at Broadmeadow are prime examples. The fact that the chubby loud one sees fit to criticise a young athletes performance has always amused me. Get them out of the game. Clubs have to be responsible for who they elect to represent them.

[BS detecor]

If this adult sees fit to call out a young official publically for their errors, why not call him out. Who is he? What has he done in the game, did he actually ever play himself? Easy to be critical when your football experience extends to getting a piece a paper and watching ESPN. Too many false ego's in local football, those two tools at Broadmeadow are prime examples. The fact that the chubby loud one sees fit to criticise a young athletes performance has always amused me. Get them out of the game. Clubs have to be responsible for who they elect to represent them.

I don’t disagree with calling out the individual but if we are going in on the club then no club should be spared. I’m surprised the 2 at azzuri don’t come in for more stick, they are arguably the worst of the lot

[Goatscheese]

I wouldn’t blame the whole club for 1 poorly behaved coach. I don’t know a club that doesn’t have at least 1 touchline tool

Lakes fired a coach recently that acted like a porkchop on the sideline. Valentine not only stands by him but posts his story on the game on facebook.

[sapdad]

Lakes fired a coach recently that acted like a porkchop on the sideline.

If its the bloke I've been told then to be fair hes always been pretty loud right through the JDL days but I've never heard hes been out of line to the refs and opposition.There must be more to it.But if its not what the club wants then good on them for taking action.Another who was let go at a different club seems to be already back in the saddle for next year at a new club.Hopefully no one acts shocked if things kick off again.

[YerMate]

If this adult sees fit to call out a young official publically for their errors, why not call him out. Who is he? What has he done in the game, did he actually ever play himself? Easy to be critical when your football experience extends to getting a piece a paper and watching ESPN. Too many false ego's in local football, those two tools at Broadmeadow are prime examples. The fact that the chubby loud one sees fit to criticise a young athletes performance has always amused me. Get them out of the game. Clubs have to be responsible for who they elect to represent them.

BBscone, you seem to like slandering the Broadmeadow coaches a lot, you a secret admirer, you upset that your child wasn’t picked by them to coach your child at any stage from 13s to 16s.

The chubby one, you stated criticises young athletes for what. You said it now spit it out you know that’s stander of someone’s character, you have identified an particular individual on a coaching staff.

If you know the guy it’s the complete opposite you degenerate low life keyboard warrior.

People like to put those 2 coaches down who are successful at developing players, track record shows that over their time as coaches.

Ask the players and their parents who have been involved with them over the past 4 years what type of coaches those 2 are from Broadmeadow, easy to throw mud at them when your an opposition parent or your feed nonsense from others who don’t like them for whatever reason.

Challenging decisions isn’t abusing the referees last time I checked.
When have they actually abused the refs. You tell me what coach hasn’t yelled out to a ref for a bad decision during a game. Every club coach has done it.
I’m confused once again slandering individuals character.

From memory wasn’t there a rule on here about slandering people.

[Goatscheese]

*snip*

From memory wasn’t there a rule on here about slandering people.

Yes there is, so why have you done it again.

Also always wondered if you were the loud chubby one, guess now we know.

[YerMate]

Yes there is, so why have you done it again.

Also always wondered if you were the loud chubby one, guess now we know.


Its not me, but i know the individual being mentioned, its far from the truth, whats been written about the pair.

[jim wallis]

BBscone, you seem to like slandering the Broadmeadow coaches a lot, you a secret admirer, you upset that your child wasn’t picked by them to coach your child at any stage from 13s to 16s.

The chubby one, you stated criticises young athletes for what. You said it now spit it out you know that’s stander of someone’s character, you have identified an particular individual on a coaching staff.

If you know the guy it’s the complete opposite you degenerate low life keyboard warrior.

People like to put those 2 coaches down who are successful at developing players, track record shows that over their time as coaches.

Ask the players and their parents who have been involved with them over the past 4 years what type of coaches those 2 are from Broadmeadow, easy to throw mud at them when your an opposition parent or your feed nonsense from others who don’t like them for whatever reason.

Challenging decisions isn’t abusing the referees last time I checked.
When have they actually abused the refs. You tell me what coach hasn’t yelled out to a ref for a bad decision during a game. Every club coach has done it.
I’m confused once again slandering individuals character.

From memory wasn’t there a rule on here about slandering people.

We now youre a Magic jerk who tries to protect these idiots. The other coach is no good. Development is a joke for those 2.

What BBscone said about the rotund porkchop is spot on. Reason why people hate that club.

Pity, cause there are other good coaches in other age groups.

[sapdad]

Before this all ends up in the same place it always does how about we all just stop with the personal stuff.The discussion was about coaches who have actually been moved on.It seems this coach (or coaches) arent everyones cup of tea.But while ever the club keep them there and the parents keep their kids there it all just looks like deeply personal attacks on both the individuals and club mentioned.I know this for a fact is happening in NPL youth with certain coaches but while ever clubs keep appointing them then theres nothing much we can do.I hate the histrionics and carry on from coaches,crowds and players sometimes.But its up to NNSW to police it if its out of line.Until then just leave it alone because while you,me and others may not like it,its not our problem.Kudos to clubs that have so far removed certain coaches,hopefully they learn a lesson too its not easy to coach at that level.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Who said Facebook was the worst thing for youth football?

[Mad with football]

The ‘majority’ of comments on this forum are beyond a joke. It has really got to a new low level . I enjoy the views on the game, Nnsw decisions etc but The forum should be about exchanging views on the GAME , not criticising un-named individuals behind a keyboard -grew up or stay off the forum

[YerMate]

Rotund pork chop that’s a good one, you oxygen thief.

[KITZ]

The ‘majority’ of comments on this forum are beyond a joke. It has really got to a new low level . I enjoy the views on the game, Nnsw decisions etc but The forum should be about exchanging views on the GAME , not criticising un-named individuals behind a keyboard -grew up or stay off the forum

It's not ok for people who have signed the code of conduct with NNSW to be making posts on Facebook about match officials or minors. No one is slandering people in that respect because the posts are made public and identify the club, coach, and even name minors in acts that are actually assault if they are carried out.

If we stick to talking about the behaviours that aren't appropriate without calling people names or backing the clubs then I don't see why anyone has to get their nose out of joint. I believe northern are beginning to fine clubs even in youth to oblivion to get what's been going on under control - especially directed towards referees. I hope that if nothing else this starts to make clubs look at getting the people around them under some sort of civilised control, because they do damage to the other people at those same clubs who are actually decent people, but they get overshadowed by those who consistently either lose their **** or just don't understand their responsibilities (both legal and ethically) for the minors under their care - this includes the referees.

It's not about who's club is better. Its about actually taking serious the fact that you have a WWCC to coach and have a responsibility for and to those minors in your care - that includes EVERY minor on the field during game day.

[boz-monaut]

once again you've shown you can't talk about youth football without becoming angry dads

thread closed - users will be banned when we get some time