2022/23 Newcastle United Jets Men's Squad

[Timewilltell]

Ridiculous if that?s the case. If we don?t keep home grown talents we should just end it

We now obviously grow them for the owners? keeping them happy must be more important those running the jets then keeping members happy

[My2BobsWorth]

Hes signed with Western United .. home ground talent to play against us whilst we sign another WSW reject

Herald had a few lines saying he was linked to Western, haven't seen anything else to confirm it

[Jeterpool]

Herald had a few lines saying he was linked to Western, haven't seen anything else to confirm it

Nothing will be confirmed until after the end of season function. Same way it happens every year - once that's over the squad departures are announced.

[My2BobsWorth]

That's what I said, it's only rumour till it's confirmed. Hope it's true for his sake, and mine

[Jeterpool]

That's what I said, it's only rumour till it's confirmed. Hope it's true for his sake, and mine

We're on the same page with rumour mate. Want having a pop. Just sharing what had happened each year - I keep record of the announcements and sometimes get asked by the media manager for data before the function for those leaving.

[Imyourhero]

KeepUp have indicated that Jacob Dowse will be returning g to play at the Jets next season

[Alton]

Surely a couple of Victory players aren?t happy?

[Alton]

With probably next to no cash to spend it?s going to be a much similar side next season, if only we could find a keeper, central defender and a decent wide player

[380]

In the absence of a proper owner we will once again be lining up with a first 11 where only a couple would make the match day squad elsewhere in this league. No doubt the current overlords will pick the eyes out of our squad and replace them with there glorified NPL squaddies. Enter Lederer and Wanderers.

[Timewilltell]

With probably next to no cash to spend it?s going to be a much similar side next season, if only we could find a keeper, central defender and a decent wide player

They?ve had the biggest budget they?ve had for a long time this year but with having no young local players given a chance papas continues to over spend on shit rejects from other clubs

[Frodo]

Did everyone see the article about Archie's impending surgery this off season?

https://keepup.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-archie-goodwin-arthur-papas-a-league/


They had already said about as much last season when they took a look at his legs the first time. So, we knew he wasn't going to be at full pace this season before a ball was even kicked. It just seems a few angry people forgot and decided to use Archie's minutes as the most important KPI for the club this season.



But, regardless of any of that, it will be great to see him HOPEFULLY recover quickly and get a full pre season in before starting again next year at full fitness and full pace. The current ownership setup has the most perfect way to get fans invested more without having to spend a cent if Archie can get fit and firing.

[Jetmaster]

The Facebook crowd have no idea. I actually had the chance to ask Pappas this question to his face. He told me Archie has fitness issues and that pushing him too hard would make him, in his own words, "another Kanta".

It is what it is.

[mic22]

The current ownership setup has the most perfect way to get fans invested more without having to spend a cent if Archie can get fit and firing.

Appreciate the sarcasm

[Jeterpool]

Did everyone see the article about Archie's impending surgery this off season?

https://keepup.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-archie-goodwin-arthur-papas-a-league/


They had already said about as much last season when they took a look at his legs the first time. So, we knew he wasn't going to be at full pace this season before a ball was even kicked. It just seems a few angry people forgot and decided to use Archie's minutes as the most important KPI for the club this season.



But, regardless of any of that, it will be great to see him HOPEFULLY recover quickly and get a full pre season in before starting again next year at full fitness and full pace. The current ownership setup has the most perfect way to get fans invested more without having to spend a cent if Archie can get fit and firing.

Watching the presser, he seemed to indicate he was over-played when he went overseas.

Regardless, he's the only local hope we have in the squad and for the sake of his career I hope surgery can help him....but back surgery at 19....geez.

[jandysardine]

Watching the presser, he seemed to indicate he was over-played when he went overseas.

Regardless, he's the only local hope we have in the squad and for the sake of his career I hope surgery can help him....but back surgery at 19....geez.

if this has been the case then why has he even been on the bench and not getting the problem addressed sooner

crowd is sitting there wondering why he is not getting on the pitch and then getting fed this info after the event

absolutely no transparency with the current management and definitely turning fans off

[Jeterpool]

if this has been the case then why has he even been on the bench and not getting the problem addressed sooner

crowd is sitting there wondering why he is not getting on the pitch and then getting fed this info after the event

absolutely no transparency with the current management and definitely turning fans off

Jimmy Gardiner reported that surgery was required for Goodwin some weeks ago. And what more do you want the club to say to be more transparent about his injury than they did this week?

I agree there are mixed messages having him on the bench. I'm a believer that everyone on there needs to be an option - but as was said in the presser Archie has maybe 10 or 15 minutes in him at most. Having him on the sideline warming up creates frustration among the fans.

As for the speed of getting it addressed - perhaps a conservative approach was tried first. That hasn't responded so surgery is the next step. I'm just making assumptions, but taking a step back for a second - it's a big decision to operate on a 19 year old's back.

[Macca]

Jimmy Gardiner reported that surgery was required for Goodwin some weeks ago. And what more do you want the club to say to be more transparent about his injury than they did this week?

I agree there are mixed messages having him on the bench. I'm a believer that everyone on there needs to be an option - but as was said in the presser Archie has maybe 10 or 15 minutes in him at most. Having him on the sideline warming up creates frustration among the fans.

As for the speed of getting it addressed - perhaps a conservative approach was tried first. That hasn't responded so surgery is the next step. I'm just making assumptions, but taking a step back for a second - it's a big decision to operate on a 19 year old's back.

The article explained why he was on the bench and didn't play, it said that they had him on the bench because they thought he was a good option for 10-15 minutes at the end if we were chasing the game.

Once we went down a man, the role of the striker in that team was going to be a lot more physical and pressing based, hunting for scraps, and it was decided it wouldn't be suitable for either party to put Goodwin on for that role.

[Jeterpool]

The article explained why he was on the bench and didn't play, it said that they had him on the bench because they thought he was a good option for 10-15 minutes at the end if we were chasing the game.

Once we went down a man, the role of the striker in that team was going to be a lot more physical and pressing based, hunting for scraps, and it was decided it wouldn't be suitable for either party to put Goodwin on for that role.

Thanks Macca. I didn't recall the information correctly re: the article. It came out before the game (I think the week before) he needed surgery - does anyone remember where that was? It was certainly out there and why I was surprised he was on the bench game day.

[Macca]

Thanks Macca. I didn't recall the information correctly re: the article. It came out before the game (I think the week before) he needed surgery - does anyone remember where that was? It was certainly out there and why I was surprised he was on the bench game day.

Sorry, I quoted you but I was more replying to Jandy along the lines of your response.

I have not seen/read the James Gardiner article, I read one on keepup which I think may have been put out after the match in response to fan questions - but I thought it did answer those questions well.

[anfield]

I'm optimistic about the Jets going forward unlike many others. I think Papas is the right manager, I think the jets have been extremely unlucky this year. A couple of games such as Wellington and Brisbane both away some massive decisions went against us. O'Neil and Piscopo injured for large parts of the season didn't help.

Obviously goals scored needs to increase. With so many players off contract it's a massive transfer window coming up.

I think that the Jets have lost their home advantage to some degree. The crowds this year have been poor, I think the Newcastle football public needs to really get behind their team. The other night against the Mariners was embarrassing that the mariners had at least a third of the supporters, I'm sure some will argue it was higher. So many in the area play Football compared to Rugby League, but the Knight's get so many more despite being unsuccessful.

The positives going forward, Piscopo and Natta both locking in AM and LB.

I think a decision probably needs to be made with the keepers, both up to A League standard but do we need them both? Beka and thurgare headline off contract players. Big off season coming up.

1 game to go unless a miracle happens.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm optimistic about the Jets going forward unlike many others. I think Papas is the right manager, I think the jets have been extremely unlucky this year. A couple of games such as Wellington and Brisbane both away some massive decisions went against us. O'Neil and Piscopo injured for large parts of the season didn't help.

Obviously goals scored needs to increase. With so many players off contract it's a massive transfer window coming up.

I think that the Jets have lost their home advantage to some degree. The crowds this year have been poor, I think the Newcastle football public needs to really get behind their team. The other night against the Mariners was embarrassing that the mariners had at least a third of the supporters, I'm sure some will argue it was higher. So many in the area play Football compared to Rugby League, but the Knight's get so many more despite being unsuccessful.

The positives going forward, Piscopo and Natta both locking in AM and LB.

I think a decision probably needs to be made with the keepers, both up to A League standard but do we need them both? Beka and thurgare headline off contract players. Big off season coming up.

1 game to go unless a miracle happens.

Newcastle as a whole has given up on the Jets and wont ever get back on board, Not to a level we need. Focus on the current members and maybe the few hundred or couple of thousand who have left us and get us in a 10K stadium. That's the best we can hope for as a club

[380]

I'm optimistic about the Jets going forward unlike many others. I think Papas is the right manager, I think the jets have been extremely unlucky this year. A couple of games such as Wellington and Brisbane both away some massive decisions went against us. O'Neil and Piscopo injured for large parts of the season didn't help.

Obviously goals scored needs to increase. With so many players off contract it's a massive transfer window coming up.

I think that the Jets have lost their home advantage to some degree. The crowds this year have been poor, I think the Newcastle football public needs to really get behind their team. The other night against the Mariners was embarrassing that the mariners had at least a third of the supporters, I'm sure some will argue it was higher. So many in the area play Football compared to Rugby League, but the Knight's get so many more despite being unsuccessful.

The positives going forward, Piscopo and Natta both locking in AM and LB.

I think a decision probably needs to be made with the keepers, both up to A League standard but do we need them both? Beka and thurgare headline off contract players. Big off season coming up.

1 game to go unless a miracle happens.

Was under the impression Ryan Scott was signed so maybe something happening in the GK department

[Jetmaster]

Newcastle as a whole has given up on the Jets and wont ever get back on board

You won't believe how many times I have heard this said since 1978 for all of our national representatives. It ain't over.

Of course success breeds success (as does money) - it is only a couple of years since we filled the our stadium and sent thousands to Gosford when said Coasties had no money or players, and were in a worse state than we are now.

[380]

You won't believe how many times I have heard this said since 1978 for all of our national representatives. It ain't over.

Of course success breeds success (as does money) - it is only a couple of years since we filled the our stadium and sent thousands to Gosford when said Coasties had no money or players, and were in a worse state than we are now.

Thats all good but to the best of my knowledge two potential sales appear to have fallen over at the last hurdle so something is not right there.

Since the inception of the A League i can't recall a time where the club has been so poor at engaging with supporters and the result of that will be only rusted ons will hang around and maintain support while others will feel alienated and lose interest. With declining membership and attendances i would have thought the club would have made this a priority, After all its like manners , Keeping fans feeling like they belong and engaged would cost them nothing.

All IMO of course.

[My2BobsWorth]

And mine

[Jetmaster]

Thats all good but to the best of my knowledge two potential sales appear to have fallen over at the last hurdle so something is not right there.

Since the inception of the A League i can't recall a time where the club has been so poor at engaging with supporters and the result of that will be only rusted ons will hang around and maintain support while others will feel alienated and lose interest. With declining membership and attendances i would have thought the club would have made this a priority, After all its like manners , Keeping fans feeling like they belong and engaged would cost them nothing.

All IMO of course.

Curious as to where you think the lack of engagement is particularly or what more you think they should be doing?

There is plenty of info sent almost daily to fans via email and socials, the players are out and about doing appearances and clinics. Matchday activities (such as the card giveways) are as good as most other clubs, although the stupid "theme days" designated by the APL are pretty cringeworthy. There has been more than one fan day.

The main issues are simply - lack of results on field and the sale of the club, which, although both extremely worrying has happened several times before. The day Newcastle KB United folded was traumatic and I still remember the photo of the players all standing outside Rosebuds club with their careers in tatters. Everyone thought football was dead in Newcastle.

I am amazed how many people have their nose out of joint just because there is no running commentary on the club sale. There is a strong rumour one A-League club may not return next season and it isn't us, so I am grateful I still have a club.

What I do accept is that the modern football fan is a spoilt brat who cannot tolerate failure and wants to be associated with winners - check out how many Leicester fans you can find these days, whereas NUFC fans are appearing out of the blue!

[My2BobsWorth]

Big difference between a member and a groupie, I'm an ex member, you're a groupie

[380]

Curious as to where you think the lack of engagement is particularly or what more you think they should be doing?

There is plenty of info sent almost daily to fans via email and socials, the players are out and about doing appearances and clinics. Matchday activities (such as the card giveways) are as good as most other clubs, although the stupid "theme days" designated by the APL are pretty cringeworthy. There has been more than one fan day.

The main issues are simply - lack of results on field and the sale of the club, which, although both extremely worrying has happened several times before. The day Newcastle KB United folded was traumatic and I still remember the photo of the players all standing outside Rosebuds club with their careers in tatters. Everyone thought football was dead in Newcastle.

I am amazed how many people have their nose out of joint just because there is no running commentary on the club sale. There is a strong rumour one A-League club may not return next season and it isn't us, so I am grateful I still have a club.

What I do accept is that the modern football fan is a spoilt brat who cannot tolerate failure and wants to be associated with winners - check out how many Leicester fans you can find these days, whereas NUFC fans are appearing out of the blue!

Yet there are people who are quick to post on here who like to infer they have some inside knowledge on the status of any potential sale.

Fold the club

Guessing the Bulls are still not ponying up with license fee ?

[Frodo]

Big difference between a member and a groupie, I'm an ex member, you're a groupie

There's only one member around here and neither of you are him, although one of you is almost as painful.

[ForeverRed]

The whole league is about to fall over, the APL are paying Perth and brisbane?s wages, jets are owned by other clubs, Melbourne city are three time premiers but can?t get a crowd over 5,000, where do I stop

[anfield]

If you look at some of the successful clubs this year such as Central Coast, Adelaide and Sydney they are all producing and developing juniors that end up playing A League.
We all talk about the Jets not producing players, apart from Archie Goodwin of late. But how is the youth team supposed to supply players for the A League when they are in the 3rd tier of NPL?

All the other NSW teams have a side in the top NSW NPL, but our side is in the third tier. It's a massive advantage for the other 4 teams. I guess we all hope they will be up there in 2 to 4 years but there is no guarantees.

Given how well Sydney FC's youth team has performed in the NSW NPL. Should we not try and get 3 to 4 of their players and put in our senior squad? Look I'm all for getting local players but that might be 2 years off given where they are currently playing. I'm also for promoting the top Jets kids like Angus Muddle and Ben Van Dorssen.

But I think instead of possibly signing other fringe A League players it might be worth signing 3 to 4 Sydney fc youth players, give them 2 year contracts and see how that goes. After all their youth team beat Apia 4-0 the other night who were the competition leaders. We need to try something

[Jeterpool]

It's a very valid point you raise
We were in the top grade of NNSW PL...we chose to move under Lawrie as CEO. Why? To develop better talent? It's a long game move as you point out.

And even so, will we be attracting locals from the region or will they be staying with NNSW clubs and comp?? The outcomes won't be seen for another 2 or 3 years.

[anfield]

It's a very balls point you raise
We were in the top grade of NNSW PL...we chose to move under Lawrie as CEO. Why? To develop better talent? It's a long game move as you point out.

And even so, will we be attracting locals from the region or will they be staying with NNSW clubs and comp?? The outcomes won't be seen for another 2 or 3 years.

It would be interesting to know how many players have opted to play in the NNSW NPL rather then play with the Jets youth. Least you don't have to travel to Sydney every second week.

Interesting to see if any kids from the area are playing for the mariners instead. As they are in NSW NPL and they promote their youth.

You don't hear basically anything about the Jets youth these days. Maybe the move wasn't as beneficial as first thought.

[StannyCFCJET]

It would be interesting to know how many players have opted to play in the NNSW NPL rather then play with the Jets youth. Least you don't have to travel to Sydney every second week.

Interesting to see if any kids from the area are playing for the mariners instead. As they are in NSW NPL and they promote their youth.

You don't hear basically anything about the Jets youth these days. Maybe the move wasn't as beneficial as first thought.

Well if the rumours on Papas are true then they won't be joining anytime soon

[MFKS]

It would be interesting to know how many players have opted to play in the NNSW NPL rather then play with the Jets youth. Least you don't have to travel to Sydney every second week.

Interesting to see if any kids from the area are playing for the mariners instead. As they are in NSW NPL and they promote their youth.

You don't hear basically anything about the Jets youth these days. Maybe the move wasn't as beneficial as first thought.

Unfortunately they got ****ed over due to Covid.

They started out in Div 4 so should have had a promotion or two by now and be in Div 2

But due to Covid crippling seasons they ain't got anywhere at all

They restructured the set up this season and went to 3 divisions from 4 so they are closer to the top flight but ain't got anywhere yet

It's unfortunate but the whole Covid thing and the timing of the Jets making this move haven't exactly been blessed with fortune