View Full Version : 2022/23 Newcastle United Jets Men's Squad
Jeterpool
20-05-2022, 12:45 PM
Last updated 09/02/23 following Cancar, Saito and Aquilina signing, McGarry departure.
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
04 Manabu Saito - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - signed until 22/23
16 Kosta Grozos - signed until 22/23
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
18 Daniel Stynes - signed until 22/23*
19 Callum Timmins - signed until 22/23*
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 23/24
06 Brandon O'Neill - signed until 23/24
10 Reno Piscopo - signed until 23/24
07 Trent Buhagiar - signed until 23/24
11 Jaushua Sotirio - signed until 23/24
27 Rory Jordan - signed until 23/24 - Loaned to APIA Leichardt
23 Mark Natta - signed until 23/24
25 Carl Jenkinson - signed until 23/24
08 Beka Dartsmelia - signed until 23/24
xx Phillip Cancar - signed until 23/24
xx Thomas Aquilina - signed until 23/24
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25
25 players signed for season
- 23 A-League squad players from possible 23
- # = 4 Visa spot (Mikeltadze, Saito, Jenkinson, Dartsmelia) from possible 5
- ^ = 1 Scholarships (James) from possible 3 (?)
- 2 Players loaned out (Mauragis @ Phoenix, Jordan at APIA Leichardt)
- * contract length has not been disclosed and it is believed this is the deal length
Bremsstrahlung
20-05-2022, 01:48 PM
Last updated 20/05/22
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
3 Jason Hoffman - thanks for everything, but no Thankyou.
5 Ben Kantarovski - didnt he go to Bayern? No thanks.
11 Daniel Penha - Loan - priority number 2.
13 Brandon Wilson - could do worse.
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - who?
16 Kosta Grozos- no thanks .
20 Michael Weier - yes
23 Eli Babalj - no.
25 Samuel Silvera - loan. Meh…
26 Archie Goodwin - yes.
28 Blake Archbold - yes
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23. - get out of this.
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23 - can stay, assume he’s not on massive coin.
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23 - haven’t been impressed. Think Elsey has more potential or room for improvement.
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 # - happy to extend if starts season well.
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 22/23 ^ - happy to keep and develop
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23 - priority 1, long term contract, to be able to bank some coin, now that middleby isn’t in control.
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^ - idk
44 Riley Warland - signed until 22/23 - idk
Expiring 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24 - surely we would do better
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Mark325
20-05-2022, 02:12 PM
Was archbold injured all season? If he wasn’t then it’s safe to say he’s as good as gone
Jeterpool
20-05-2022, 02:13 PM
Was archbold injured all season? If he wasn’t then it’s safe to say he’s as good as gone
He made the bench a few times and came on for one 9 minute appearance
Mark325
20-05-2022, 02:40 PM
Kosta Barbarouses, Luciano Narsingh, Trent Buhagiar, Mustafa Amini, Harry Van der Saag, Callum Talbot, Anton Milnaric, Chris Zuvela, Calem Nieuwenhof and Liam McGing all got released from Sydney the other day.
Personally I’d take Amini, think him paired up with Thurgate would be a solid pairing
Jeterpool
20-05-2022, 04:13 PM
Kosta Barbarouses, Luciano Narsingh, Trent Buhagiar, Mustafa Amini, Harry Van der Saag, Callum Talbot, Anton Milnaric, Chris Zuvela, Calem Nieuwenhof and Liam McGing all got released from Sydney the other day.
Personally I’d take Amini, think him paired up with Thurgate would be a solid pairing
Far out!! That's a large list.
turbojetfireV8
20-05-2022, 04:31 PM
1780
You might need to enlarge that to read it properly, but so far we haven't released any of the six players we signed from the same agency this season - will the majority of our new players be coming from this mob I wonder?
Macca
20-05-2022, 04:54 PM
Last updated 20/05/22
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
3 Jason Hoffman - Announced as re-signed, 1 year
5 Ben Kantarovski
11 Daniel Penha - Loan - see what happens
13 Brandon Wilson - I preferred O'Doherty, but Wilson is OK - keep unless better option
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - meh, don't think we need so many backup midfielders but do need some.
16 Kosta Grozos - meh - preferred Al-Taay to Grozos but maybe there's something I don't see, won young player of the year for us somehow, maybe a training God.
20 Michael Weier - keep
23 Eli Babalj - meh
25 Samuel Silvera - loan - Showed promise at the end of the season, wouldn't mind keeping as a bench player
26 Archie Goodwin - Keep
28 Blake Archbold - Who?
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23 - need better as a first choice
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23 - See how he goes next season, hopefully with a new partner
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23 - Had one good game all season imo, for the assumed coin and being club captain, needs to do better
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 # - Classy player, I would guess would work even better alongside another striker or more goalscoring wingers.
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 22/23 ^ - keep, decent option off bench
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23 - keep, key team member
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^ - no idea
44 Riley Warland - signed until 22/23 - Looked OK towards the end, maybe viable as backup defender.
Expiring 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
9 players signed for next season
- 9 A-League squad players from possible 23
- 1 Visa spot (Mikeltadze) from possible 5
- 4 Scholarships (Mauragis, James, Goodwin and Archbold) from possible 3 (?)
Need a new CB and some wingers - we could do with a lot of "starters" to be honest.
From above list, I'd only have Beka, Penha (if) Gus, Weier, Elsey as preferred starters. Goodwin if fit?
Hoff, Wilson, Mauragis, Warland, Silvera can do a job.
Rest are bench material or replaceable for me.
Mark325
20-05-2022, 04:55 PM
Hoff given another year and Weir given 2
I’m happy with Weir, can accept Hoff for one more season in a bench capacity
Jeterpool
20-05-2022, 05:37 PM
You've got to have squad players. Happy with Hoffman.
Weier will be pushing as a starter.
Macca
20-05-2022, 05:41 PM
I've liked what I've seen from Weier so far. There's been a couple of shots where I thought he might have done better, I think mainly diving for low, wide shots.
His distribution, sweeping, commanding the area, ball skills I think are all an upgrade on Duncan.
Bremsstrahlung
20-05-2022, 06:53 PM
Happy with Hoff provided he isn’t a first choice option. Good utility value. Local.
Kosta Barbarouses, Luciano Narsingh, Trent Buhagiar, Mustafa Amini, Harry Van der Saag, Callum Talbot, Anton Milnaric, Chris Zuvela, Calem Nieuwenhof and Liam McGing all got released from Sydney the other day.
Personally I’d take Amini, think him paired up with Thurgate would be a solid pairing
Yeah that's a great idea
Fill the squad with Ranga Gypos
What the **** could go wrong there :redcard:
Happy with Hoff provided he isn’t a first choice option. Good utility value. Local.
This is also why we are perpetually shit.
Sydney have a poor season so have a mass clear out and will go bring in some good players next season just as Victree did this season
We on the other hand look at keeping players who are not good enough 2 -3 -4 you take your pick how many years ago and then pay them to stay here
It's amatuer hour thinking looking at how we can keep players who ain't up to the mark
Mark325
21-05-2022, 12:40 AM
Apparently Archie, Al-Taay and Grozos are expected to sign contract extensions.
The link to McGarry and Sotirio is still floating around
The club is still in talks with Penha (expected to take a big money offer with Sydney), Wilson, Silvera and surprisingly Babalj who I imagined was a shoe in to be released
Bremsstrahlung
21-05-2022, 06:16 AM
This is also why we are perpetually shit.
Sydney have a poor season so have a mass clear out and will go bring in some good players next season just as Victree did this season
We on the other hand look at keeping players who are not good enough 2 -3 -4 you take your pick how many years ago and then pay them to stay here
It's amatuer hour thinking looking at how we can keep players who ain't up to the mark
Assume he’s on a pretty minimum wage, senior member of the squad can mentor the younger players coming through, can do a job at multiple positions if need be. If we are going to re-sign any of our current players that “ain’t up to the mark”, I’d be happiest with Hoff.
Should he be starting, no. But he’s probably just as good as any other squad player we’d be bringing in to replace him for the same $.
(There’s a big assumption here, he ain’t getting paid much)
Also, “mass clean out”, we will have released just as many players as Sydney have.
Jetmaster
21-05-2022, 12:05 PM
Plus SFC gave Corica an extension.....
Assume he’s on a pretty minimum wage, senior member of the squad can mentor the younger players coming through, can do a job at multiple positions if need be. If we are going to re-sign any of our current players that “ain’t up to the mark”, I’d be happiest with Hoff.
Should he be starting, no. But he’s probably just as good as any other squad player we’d be bringing in to replace him for the same $.
(There’s a big assumption here, he ain’t getting paid much)
Also, “mass clean out”, we will have released just as many players as Sydney have.
Yes Sydney may have released just as many players as us but they won't be signing players of Hoffman's quality will they ??
mic22
22-05-2022, 05:01 PM
Yes Sydney may have released just as many players as us but they won't be signing players of Hoffman's quality will they ??
I guess that's possible when you have your own money to spend.
Aegon
22-05-2022, 08:56 PM
Last updated 20/05/22 4:40pm
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
5 Ben Kantarovski
11 Daniel Penha - Loan
13 Brandon Wilson
14 Mohamed Al-Taay
16 Kosta Grozos
23 Eli Babalj
25 Samuel Silvera - loan
26 Archie Goodwin
28 Blake Archbold
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 22/23 ^
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
44 Riley Warland - signed until 22/23
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
11 players signed for next season
- 11 A-League squad players from possible 23
- 1 Visa spot (Mikeltadze) from possible 5
- 4 Scholarships (Mauragis, James, Goodwin and Archbold) from possible 3 (?)
Thanks for this.
Aegon
22-05-2022, 08:57 PM
Happy with Hoff provided he isn’t a first choice option. Good utility value. Local.
Exactly this.
Aegon
22-05-2022, 09:03 PM
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
5 Ben Kantarovski - got to let him go
11 Daniel Penha - Don't think we can match offers he will receive but would love to keep him. As inconsistent as he is, his quality shines through all too often.
13 Brandon Wilson - Hopefully Retain.
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - Don't think he offers enough to retain.
16 Kosta Grozos - Meh - realistically very low on even this years midfield depth chart.
23 Eli Babalj - Would retain him if the money is right. will always offer something different off the bunch and if he met a fraction of his potential he could be a bargain.
25 Samuel Silvera - 50/50 on this one. Very very queit at times but offers sparks of brilliance every now and then.
26 Archie Goodwin - Definitely retain.
28 Blake Archbold - Assuming he is cheap enough to retain but only if we can't fill the squad with more quality.
Buddha
24-05-2022, 04:45 PM
Huge rumours of Piscopo signing with the Jerks. He's quality and will perfectly suit ChaosBall
Mark325
24-05-2022, 05:07 PM
Huge rumours of Piscopo signing with the Jerks. He's quality and will perfectly suit ChaosBall
Saw not long ago he’s already signed, just haven’t announced it yet.
Huge rumours of Piscopo signing with the Jerks. He's quality and will perfectly suit ChaosBall
This is a good signing if true. Unlike most players in this league who can't string two decent performances back to back and belong in a NPL somewhere Piscopo is a solid good performer week in week out.
Frodo
25-05-2022, 08:48 AM
This is a good signing if true. Unlike most players in this league who can't string two decent performances back to back and belong in a NPL somewhere Piscopo is a solid good performer week in week out.
When he can stay fit, he's very good.
Mark325
25-05-2022, 10:12 AM
Archie signed on for 3 years
Jetmaster
25-05-2022, 11:40 AM
Archie signed on for 3 years
Incredibly - filthy Mariners had a crack at getting him.
StannyCFCJET
25-05-2022, 12:32 PM
Incredibly - filthy Mariners had a crack at getting him.
Article said Brisbane were intersted
belchardo
25-05-2022, 01:10 PM
Good to see. I assume given the length there is a buy-out/transfer clause in his favour, but I hope we can still get some good dollars out of him in the future.
Jeterpool
25-05-2022, 04:31 PM
Last updated 20/05/22 4:40pm
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
5 Ben Kantarovski
11 Daniel Penha - Loan
13 Brandon Wilson
14 Mohamed Al-Taay
16 Kosta Grozos
23 Eli Babalj
25 Samuel Silvera - loan
28 Blake Archbold
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 22/23 ^
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
44 Riley Warland - signed until 22/23
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25
11 players signed for next season
- 11 A-League squad players from possible 23
- 1 Visa spot (Mikeltadze) from possible 5
- 4 Scholarships (Mauragis, James, Goodwin and Archbold) from possible 3 (?)
Rumoured
James McGarry - Defender
Jaushua Sotirio - Attacker
Reno Piscopo - Attacker/Winger
Updated
Jetmaster
25-05-2022, 07:56 PM
Article said Brisbane were intersted
Yep, so were City.
Mark325
26-05-2022, 12:10 AM
Based on the all stars game I’m even more of a fan of signing Piscopo (assuming he hasn’t just attracted interest overseas)
Aegon
26-05-2022, 10:14 AM
Based on the all stars game I’m even more of a fan of signing Piscopo (assuming he hasn’t just attracted interest overseas)
I was thinking the same thing.
The Dunster
28-05-2022, 02:40 PM
We need to stop signing shit offered to us by Football House Plus. They only deal in seconds and damaged stock.
Harrycripps
28-05-2022, 04:00 PM
We need to stop signing shit offered to us by Football House Plus. They only deal in seconds and damaged stock.
100% spot on
Jeterpool
29-05-2022, 08:50 AM
From James Gardiner's article yesterday we are continuing to support Kanta and Babalj recover from injury through rehabilitation support.
Sounds like the door remains open for them both but I find it hard to believe we'd give Kanta a new contact having not played in 2 years
From James Gardiner's article yesterday we are continuing to support Kanta and Babalj recover from injury through rehabilitation support.
Sounds like the door remains open for them both but I find it hard to believe we'd give Kanta a new contact having not played in 2 years
This is the Newcastle Jets.....this be exactly the sort of thing we would do
Jeterpool
29-05-2022, 09:11 AM
This is the Newcastle Jets.....this be exactly the sort of thing we would do
That's what concerns me.
mic22
29-05-2022, 02:48 PM
We need to stop signing shit offered to us by Football House Plus. They only deal in seconds and damaged stock.
They can't be that bad... they have 3 photos of Usain Bolt on their main page
Hunter403
29-05-2022, 04:58 PM
Ever listened to Tony Rallis? If you don't agree with him you are a "fraud". Seems a nice bloke
Mark325
30-05-2022, 02:51 PM
Jets are rumoured to be signing Rory Jordan
Jeterpool
01-06-2022, 10:52 AM
James Gardiner's article today notes we have extended the contracts on Mohamed Al-Taay and Kosta Grozos for 1 more year (2022/23 season)
Mark325
01-06-2022, 11:06 AM
James Gardiner's article today notes we have extended the contracts on Mohamed Al-Taay and Kosta Grozos for 1 more year (2022/23 season)
From the article they also mentioned talks are still going with Penha, but Sydney is offering him a $700,000 a season contract which I’m sure is hard to say no to.
Sotirio and McGarry are still expected to be signed, Piscopo is still linked to us and apparently 95% of the squad will be organised by July 8th which is starts of preseason. If that’s true it’s gonna be a busy month of resigning and signing new players
Be a total shambles if the reason Penha leaves for the smurfs is for financial reasons only. To not pony up that sort of dosh for a player who is already here and proved himself to be one of the best performers this past season would be just plain stupid. Not too mention if memory serves me correctly he also proved in the fitness department to be as sound as a bell.
If Mattiske can't stand up to the bill payers and get a deal sorted for a player of this caliber for that money he has no business running this club. How often do you get the opportunity to sign a player of this quality for that sort of money ?.
Jeterpool
01-06-2022, 02:14 PM
We can't afford $700,000 under our cap....no way. We can't compete with that amount of coin.
Alton
01-06-2022, 02:19 PM
We can't afford $700,000 under our cap....no way. We can't compete with that amount of coin.
Can a local consortium cover the 700k ?
Frodo
01-06-2022, 02:20 PM
Be a total shambles if the reason Penha leaves for the smurfs is for financial reasons only. To not pony up that sort of dosh for a player who is already here and proved himself to be one of the best performers this past season would be just plain stupid. Not too mention if memory serves me correctly he also proved in the fitness department to be as sound as a bell.
If Mattiske can't stand up to the bill payers and get a deal sorted for a player of this caliber for that money he has no business running this club. How often do you get the opportunity to sign a player of this quality for that sort of money ?.
How can we compete with Sydney for money?? We don't have owners and are running off the minimum amount of salary cap spend, they have multiple avenues to sidestep the cap entirely. Basically our only hope is that he misses all the games against us through suspension.
Jeterpool
01-06-2022, 02:29 PM
How can we compete with Sydney for money?? We don't have owners and are running off the minimum amount of salary cap spend, they have multiple avenues to sidestep the cap entirely. Basically our only hope is that he misses all the games against us through suspension.
And Sydney are one of our 4 owners! They'll spend in their own backyard before we get the pocket change
Jeterpool
01-06-2022, 02:35 PM
Can a local consortium cover the 700k ?
Possibly. I expect options are being explored.
Bremsstrahlung
01-06-2022, 03:23 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t Penha still contracted in Brazil?
Don’t all negotiations go through his parent club?
I imagine they have zero interest in who clubs are, and more interest in who is offering them the most money.
Wonder what their business model is, surely their eyebrows start to raise when overseas clubs are coming in with 700,000 offers for their player.
Also intriguing how this guy hasn’t played for his parent club for like 4-5 years from memory.
Frodo
01-06-2022, 05:09 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t Penha still contracted in Brazil?
Don’t all negotiations go through his parent club?
I imagine they have zero interest in who clubs are, and more interest in who is offering them the most money.
Wonder what their business model is, surely their eyebrows start to raise when overseas clubs are coming in with 700,000 offers for their player.
Also intriguing how this guy hasn’t played for his parent club for like 4-5 years from memory.
I'm no expert, but a look online gives me the impression Brazil is full of loan armies and third party ownerships. Notoriously difficult place to shop, but players sell for cheap when they do get sold. Teams like Barcelona seem to have an entire scouting and negotiation team set up there since it's so hard to manage.
Swifts
01-06-2022, 06:16 PM
Listening to the 'Price of Football' podcast this morning, they mentioned the average wage for players at Aberdeen is £4,000/week - which works out to be say AUD$350,000/year.
Should we be paying players $700,000/year in Australia? Is it sustainable? Are we bigger/better than the Scottish Premier League?
scarfy96
01-06-2022, 06:41 PM
Be a total shambles if the reason Penha leaves for the smurfs is for financial reasons only. To not pony up that sort of dosh for a player who is already here and proved himself to be one of the best performers this past season would be just plain stupid. Not too mention if memory serves me correctly he also proved in the fitness department to be as sound as a bell.
If Mattiske can't stand up to the bill payers and get a deal sorted for a player of this caliber for that money he has no business running this club. How often do you get the opportunity to sign a player of this quality for that sort of money ?.
That is seriously funny.
Look at the list of clubs that have over spent on players beyond their means and then had to have a fire sale.
If we had owners prepared to poney up this sort of money, sure. Otherwise it would be financial suicide to do it.
Still we can dream of having huge funds behind us or find a magical pot of gold somewhere.
That is seriously funny.
Look at the list of clubs that have over spent on players beyond their means and then had to have a fire sale.
If we had owners prepared to poney up this sort of money, sure. Otherwise it would be financial suicide to do it.
Still we can dream of having huge funds behind us or find a magical pot of gold somewhere.
Nothing funny about it at all, Penha was clearly one of the standouts of the league this last season was he not ?. You don't think there are a handful of players in the league being paid upward of a mill and provided there respective clubs with less output ?.
As for your quip regarding owners not wanting to pony up, there lay the real issue eh. 25% of our current ownership model wants him on there books so of course that 1/4 will not put up the money. This is a blatant conflict of interest.
The only thing seriously funny is your take on the situation.
Frodo
01-06-2022, 09:54 PM
As for your quip regarding owners not wanting to pony up, there lay the real issue eh. 25% of our current ownership model wants him on there books so of course that 1/4 will not put up the money. This is a blatant conflict of interest.
So, you understand the reasons why it won't happen, but you still want to expect it anyways??? AND you also want people to join you in setting themselves up for obvious disappointment too?
Very odd behaviour.
So, you understand the reasons why it won't happen, but you still want to expect it anyways??? AND you also want people to join you in setting themselves up for obvious disappointment too?
Very odd behaviour.
Do i expect people to understand why it won't happen for the right reasons, yes i do. Not because of some rubbish about clubs and firesales crap.
scarfy96
01-06-2022, 10:30 PM
Nothing funny about it at all, Penha was clearly one of the standouts of the league this last season was he not ?. You don't think there are a handful of players in the league being paid upward of a mill and provided there respective clubs with less output ?.
As for your quip regarding owners not wanting to pony up, there lay the real issue eh. 25% of our current ownership model wants him on there books so of course that 1/4 will not put up the money. This is a blatant conflict of interest.
The only thing seriously funny is your take on the situation.
So you get why we can't match the Sydney offer if they really want him. Yet you are outraged at the club for trading within their financial limitations. Ok.
Do I wish we had an owner with a really big cheque book? Sure. But we don't. It is a reality. Until then I would prefer the club to operate in a financially responsible manner rather than go bankrupt due to overspending in a futile bidding war.
Feel free to rage about it.
Mark325
02-06-2022, 12:13 AM
Can I also say, off the back of finding Penha and Beka this season, I have a bit more faith in our recruitment towards international players.
These are two of the best internationals we’ve ever signed, and some of the best in the league last season. If the club can find players of that calibre, then I trust them to do it again especially off the back of making ourselves seem like a much more attractive option off the back of the style we play.
It won’t be easy, but 12 months ago no one knew who Daniel Penha was, and it isn’t shocking to believe there are other similar players floating around that we could sign up
Listening to the 'Price of Football' podcast this morning, they mentioned the average wage for players at Aberdeen is £4,000/week - which works out to be say AUD$350,000/year.
Should we be paying players $700,000/year in Australia? Is it sustainable? Are we bigger/better than the Scottish Premier League?
This is a very good point
Why exactly are clubs pissing so much money away on players when we have a pretty poor business model with declining crowds and bugger all TV money.
It also shows how under Lowy and co we pissed away the chance to establish this game in Oz when we got a big money deal for 7 years with Foxtel in 2006
Instead of building a sustainable competitive competition like we had in the first few years of the competition we allowed the PFA to dictate terms and money was squandered into increased wages and more work around a of the salary cap.
The ALeague was at its zenith about season 3 when the Jets won the comp because at that time it didn't matter who you had as a marquee because the teams were all realistically even
Jetmaster
03-06-2022, 01:59 PM
Nothing funny about it at all, Penha was clearly one of the standouts of the league this last season was he not ?. You don't think there are a handful of players in the league being paid upward of a mill and provided there respective clubs with less output ?.
As for your quip regarding owners not wanting to pony up, there lay the real issue eh. 25% of our current ownership model wants him on there books so of course that 1/4 will not put up the money. This is a blatant conflict of interest.
The only thing seriously funny is your take on the situation.
Seriously....you do not understand the current ownership model? The various owners don't get dibs on players. They are also negotiating a sale and devaluating the asset doesn't make any sense.
Any deals are usual market... pays your money, takes your choice. Jets paid $280k for Penha this season which seens reasonable. If Smurfs want to risk overs on someone who could well be a big fish in a small pond now, that is their perogative.
Seriously....you do not understand the current ownership model? The various owners don't get dibs on players. They are also negotiating a sale and devaluating the asset doesn't make any sense.
Any deals are usual market... pays your money, takes your choice. Jets paid $280k for Penha this season which seens reasonable. If Smurfs want to risk overs on someone who could well be a big fish in a small pond now, that is their perogative.
700K for arguably one of the best players in this league is acceptable. The issue is our ownership model and the conflict of interest that prevails. Remember when it was first touted how our ownership model was to work work there were concerns about it but the case was made because the ownership model was NOT a single other club owner but split between 4 owners they managed to sidestep those concerns. And if you are as close to the finer details of how things have worked in the past you will know very well just how concerned about the model those other club owners not involved with the Jets were about the perception of a conflict of interest. Such was there concern it made Lederer come out and make a public statement when the Wanderers were having there way with us pineapples included.
Take the blinkers off and understand that while ever we are under this current conflicted model we are at a disadvantage when we are up against one or perhaps more of the other 4 owners vying for the signature of same player. Apparently 2 clubs are vying for his signature, Who's to say the second club is also one of the four and also not wanting to cough up for us the funds to retain Penha to improve there chances of scooping him up.
This has nothing to do with Penha's value and anybody trying to make the case he is not worth 700k is waffling through there rectum, He is worth every cent.
Finally even Pappas was quoted as saying if we don't retain Penha it was because the funds were not forthcoming. Mmmmm let me see i will take the coaches perspective thank you.
Frodo
03-06-2022, 04:36 PM
Take the blinkers off and understand that while ever we are under this current conflicted model we are at a disadvantage when we are up against one or perhaps more of the other 4 owners vying for the signature of same player. Apparently 2 clubs are vying for his signature, Who's to say the second club is also one of the four and also not wanting to cough up for us the funds to retain Penha to improve there chances of scooping him up.
Would you rather the alternative and Penha signs for another club because we no longer exist anymore?
Jeterpool
03-06-2022, 04:59 PM
700K for arguably one of the best players in this league is acceptable. The issue is our ownership model and the conflict of interest that prevails. Remember when it was first touted how our ownership model was to work work there were concerns about it but the case was made because the ownership model was NOT a single other club owner but split between 4 owners they managed to sidestep those concerns. And if you are as close to the finer details of how things have worked in the past you will know very well just how concerned about the model those other club owners not involved with the Jets were about the perception of a conflict of interest. Such was there concern it made Lederer come out and make a public statement when the Wanderers were having there way with us pineapples included.
Take the blinkers off and understand that while ever we are under this current conflicted model we are at a disadvantage when we are up against one or perhaps more of the other 4 owners vying for the signature of same player. Apparently 2 clubs are vying for his signature, Who's to say the second club is also one of the four and also not wanting to cough up for us the funds to retain Penha to improve there chances of scooping him up.
This has nothing to do with Penha's value and anybody trying to make the case he is not worth 700k is waffling through there rectum, He is worth every cent.
Finally even Pappas was quoted as saying if we don't retain Penha it was because the funds were not forthcoming. Mmmmm let me see i will take the coaches perspective thank you.
I can see your point, 380, but under any of our previous ownership models we wouldn't be in a position to pay $700,000 for Penha. The only time we've forked out an amount greater that $700k was for Heskey - and I understand we had help from the FFA with that (but happy to be proven otherwise). We simple cannot, and never have, been able to pay on that level.
Were the other club, say, City or Victory, would we be having the same conversation?
We have our budget. Our budget doesn't include discretionary spend above the cap. It is simply enough to keep us ticking over so the league has a full complement of teams and not a cent is spent unnecessarily while we wait for someone to buy us.
While we are waiting hopefully for a new owner we have to play Moneyball with our recruitment. We did it with Penha. We've done it with Beqa. The consortium will hope we can do it again.
Would you rather the alternative and Penha signs for another club because we no longer exist anymore?
Fair question and in all honesty you could make a case either way. We are a basket case and of course our existence should come into question the closer we drift to what a ACT club or the Wolves would bring to the comp. As somebody who went through the old NSL days and see there club not get a start in the A League i hate to see the club on this trajectory but it is.
The other side of the coin is we absolutely need to build on this year and that means retaining those players that played a major part in that turnaround. But that will never happen while our billpayers/owners interested in one or more of our players coming off contact and wants there services and has the ability to stimy us financially in retaining said players players.
All i am hearing on here is our ownership model makes it unlikely to keep him, Here is a scoop that is precisely my point and has nothing to do with the question of is the player in question worth it eh.
But anyway we will see what happens. I think the coach nailed it when asked in the interview he held recently.
I can see your point, 380, but under any of our previous ownership models we wouldn't be in a position to pay $700,000 for Penha. The only time we've forked out an amount greater that $700k was for Heskey - and I understand we had help from the FFA with that (but happy to be proven otherwise). We simple cannot, and never have, been able to pay on that level.
Were the other club, say, City or Victory, would we be having the same conversation?
We have our budget. Our budget doesn't include discretionary spend above the cap. It is simply enough to keep us ticking over so the league has a full complement of teams and not a cent is spent unnecessarily while we wait for someone to buy us.
While we are waiting hopefully for a new owner we have to play Moneyball with our recruitment. We did it with Penha. We've done it with Beqa. The consortium will hope we can do it again.
I reckon Vargas was on the sort of dosh being mentioned for Penha and by any measure Penha runs rings around Vargas. At least Penha done all his best work in the correct third of the park.
scarfy96
03-06-2022, 05:20 PM
Finally even Pappas was quoted as saying if we don't retain Penha it was because the funds were not forthcoming. Mmmmm let me see i will take the coaches perspective thank you.
Umm that is what everyone has been saying here?
The club can't afford $700k for a player. If the Smurfs can, then they can, we can't.
Bigger clubs outbid smaller clubs in every league in the world and unless we get a billionaire owner who doesn't promptly go bankrupt like our last 2 (probably a little harsh on Lee but the world changed under his feet) then Smurfs, City, Victory and a few others will consistently be able to outbid us.
Not thrilled about it but it is better than not having a club here.
700k for Penha
You guys are taking the piss
There is some talent in him but there is little finished product from him and some disciplinary issues that need addressing
If he was worth 700K a season he ain't playing in some backward tinpot league like ours
If Smurfs FC are happy to waste 700k on him let them
The Hacker
04-06-2022, 10:08 PM
700k for Penha
You guys are taking the piss
There is some talent in him but there is little finished product from him and some disciplinary issues that need addressing
If he was worth 700K a season he ain't playing in some backward tinpot league like ours
If Smurfs FC are happy to waste 700k on him let them
Agree like the gaffer said he was from the team coming last in second division and get loaned out from there. Go to the team at the other end of the league and scout a player
mic22
05-06-2022, 01:11 AM
700k for Penha
You guys are taking the piss
There is some talent in him but there is little finished product from him and some disciplinary issues that need addressing
If he was worth 700K a season he ain't playing in some backward tinpot league like ours
If Smurfs FC are happy to waste 700k on him let them
Agree on the disciplinary issues, but 11 assists and 4 goals is enough finished product for me from someone in his role.
And he's young, and has a better understanding of the league now.
700k... maybe not, but from Syd perspective it's surely not a waste - they simply can afford it.
Agree on the disciplinary issues, but 11 assists and 4 goals is enough finished product for me from someone in his role.
And he's young, and has a better understanding of the league now.
700k... maybe not, but from Syd perspective it's surely not a waste - they simply can afford it.
4 goals is not a good return at all
He is playing as a number 10 in a tinpot league
The guy should be scoring 8 to 12 a season in such a shit competition as ours without even thinking about it
No doubt there is a player in there it is a case of how long it is gonna take to get the player he could be out of him
You think our club has that ability ??
mic22
07-06-2022, 12:07 AM
4 goals is not a good return at all
He is playing as a number 10 in a tinpot league
The guy should be scoring 8 to 12 a season in such a shit competition as ours without even thinking about it
No doubt there is a player in there it is a case of how long it is gonna take to get the player he could be out of him
You think our club has that ability ??
He literally put our attackers right in front of the goal 11 times - plus other times when they didn't score. That's more than just 4 goals in my view. His work rate is very high defensively too.
Could have scored more? Maybe, but not bad at all for a 1st season.
I'm happy with the player he is.
Aegon
07-06-2022, 10:50 AM
He literally put our attackers right in front of the goal 11 times - plus other times when they didn't score. That's more than just 4 goals in my view. His work rate is very high defensively too.
Could have scored more? Maybe, but not bad at all for a 1st season.
I'm happy with the player he is.
Could have had 20 assists if some of the other great chances he created were put away.
belchardo
07-06-2022, 01:50 PM
Could have had a lot more of both if he could control his temper. (But I do agree that he got shit service from the refereeing cohort)
Aegon
07-06-2022, 04:36 PM
Could have had a lot more of both if he could control his temper. (But I do agree that he got shit service from the refereeing cohort)
Like any half decently skilled player in the A-League they get very little protection from the refs. Vargas and Rodriguez got hammered in their early games. Vargas somewhat adjusted to compensate. So many skilled players from other teams have copped the same treatment.
Too many fouls are not blown to allow for the spectacle.
Jeterpool
09-06-2022, 10:39 AM
Last updated 9/6/22 09:00 following Wilson, Silvera and Warland departures.
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
5 Ben Kantarovski
11 Daniel Penha - Loan
14 Mohamed Al-Taay
16 Kosta Grozos
23 Eli Babalj
28 Blake Archbold
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 22/23 ^
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25
10 players signed for next season
- 10 A-League squad players from possible 23
- 1 Visa spot (Mikeltadze) from possible 5
- 3 Scholarships (Mauragis, James and Archbold) from possible 3 (?)
Rumoured
James McGarry - Defender
Jaushua Sotirio - Attacker
Reno Piscopo - Attacker/Winger
14 Mohamed Al-Taay (1 year extension)
16 Kosta Grozos (1 year extension)
Updated
Jeterpool
10-06-2022, 01:28 PM
Rumours Brandon O'Neill is seeking a release from Perth to join the Jets.
https://twitter.com/Farpostperth/status/1535084004910567425
Interestingly, he's also a Football House Plus player.
Mark325
10-06-2022, 01:41 PM
Rumours Brandon O'Neill is seeking a release from Perth to join the Jets.
https://twitter.com/Farpostperth/status/1535084004910567425
Interestingly, he's also a Football House Plus player.
Id say he’s better then any of the people we released that where filling that spot so that’s a positive but I still would have hoped for something better
Alton
10-06-2022, 01:54 PM
Id say he’s better then any of the people we released that where filling that spot so that’s a positive but I still would have hoped for something better
What about Yengi?
Jeterpool
10-06-2022, 02:06 PM
Id say he’s better then any of the people we released that where filling that spot so that’s a positive but I still would have hoped for something better
Agree. O'Neill beside Thurgate as a base is a very good move.
Jeterpool
10-06-2022, 02:07 PM
What about Yengi?
Tete is overseas, Kusini jsut signed for WSW.
Spell Check
10-06-2022, 02:11 PM
Tete is overseas, Kusini jsut signed for WSW.
Tete went over to U23's in England and is "tearing it up" on loan in Finland at the minute. That almost guarantees he'll end up back at the Jets soon. Based on our signings over the years I think most of our scouts are based in Finland.
Jeterpool
11-06-2022, 08:35 AM
O'Neill signed for two seasons
The Hacker
11-06-2022, 09:01 AM
O'Neill signed for two seasons
Good signing in my opinion
scarfy96
11-06-2022, 05:59 PM
Definitely a good signing.
Interesting quote from Papas
"We've tried to improve certain areas. One of those is obviously Brandon as a No.6. That was a key priority. Other areas are just to become a quicker team and a more aggressive team as well in the front third and I think we've done some good business in that area as well."
DONE some good business.
Interesting to see what is announced shortly.
Aegon
12-06-2022, 09:39 PM
O'Neill signed for two seasons
Anyone who says this is a bad signing should hand in their supporter card.
The Dunster
13-06-2022, 05:10 PM
Brandon O'Neill is a great signing for us. He will take a lot of the pressure of our defence and he's a good ball distributor as well.
Anyone who says this is a bad signing should hand in their supporter card.
Mate I will reserve judgement until.we see how he goes
People thought Jurman was a good signing and how did that turn out ??
People thought Jason Culina was a good signing and how did that turn out??
Until we see how O'Neill goes then the jury is still out. For all we know the guy could be on the decline that is why we got him
The Hacker
14-06-2022, 05:44 PM
Mate I will reserve judgement until.we see how he goes
People thought Jurman was a good signing and how did that turn out ??
People thought Jason Culina was a good signing and how did that turn out??
Until we see how O'Neill goes then the jury is still out. For all we know the guy could be on the decline that is why we got him
He missed most of this season with injury but being a shoulder and being 28 he shouldn’t be on the decline
Mark325
16-06-2022, 10:49 AM
Rumour going around Penha is close to signing with K-League club Daegu FC. If we can’t have him I’d much rather this then Sydney FC
Also a rumour that Beka is being pursued by Victory but I don’t know how much validity that one has
Jeterpool
16-06-2022, 11:21 AM
Also a rumour that Beka is being pursued by Victory but I don’t know how much validity that one has
Saw that on some shit twitter account. Bait
Rumour going around Penha is close to signing with K-League club Daegu FC. If we can’t have him I’d much rather this then Sydney FC
Also a rumour that Beka is being pursued by Victory but I don’t know how much validity that one has
That was first raised about a month ago Re Beka.
Hunter403
16-06-2022, 01:18 PM
Rumour going around Penha is close to signing with K-League club Daegu FC. If we can’t have him I’d much rather this then Sydney FC
Keep Penha in Australia, get him naturalised and into a gold shirt.
Mark325
21-06-2022, 09:59 AM
Feels like things have been really quite so far this off season
Club never publicly announced resigning Grozos and Al-Taay, still a handful of players we haven’t either resigned or let go whose contracts are up, rumoured signings like Piscopo etc. have gone dead quiet, nothing on the Penha front which has been brewing for months now.
Compared to last season where I felt our social media was quite strong and we were teasing stuff constantly, this off season so far has mostly felt like radio silence
Bremsstrahlung
21-06-2022, 10:05 AM
Feels like things have been really quite so far this off season
Club never publicly announced resigning Grozos and Al-Taay, still a handful of players we haven’t either resigned or let go whose contracts are up, rumoured signings like Piscopo etc. have gone dead quiet, nothing on the Penha front which has been brewing for months now.
Compared to last season where I felt our social media was quite strong and we were teasing stuff constantly, this off season so far has mostly felt like radio silence
I could be completely wrong, and getting this confused with something else.
But didn’t the social media person responsible for last seasons hype leave at some stage?
Mark325
21-06-2022, 11:06 AM
I could be completely wrong, and getting this confused with something else.
But didn’t the social media person responsible for last seasons hype leave at some stage?
Would make a lot of sense. Shame if true cause they did a good job of adding to the hype of each new signing
ForeverRed
21-06-2022, 12:37 PM
Feels like things have been really quite so far this off season
Club never publicly announced resigning Grozos and Al-Taay, still a handful of players we haven’t either resigned or let go whose contracts are up, rumoured signings like Piscopo etc. have gone dead quiet, nothing on the Penha front which has been brewing for months now.
Compared to last season where I felt our social media was quite strong and we were teasing stuff constantly, this off season so far has mostly felt like radio silence
The clubs probably still feeling the back lash after announcing Van Egmond was back, they probably thinking it’s best to keep our heads down for a bit .
Mark325
21-06-2022, 06:32 PM
Turns out clubs announcing a signing tonight.
Based on the photo it doesn’t seem to be any of the rumoured signings, has a sleeve on both arms and piscopo only has a sleeve on the one
Jeterpool
21-06-2022, 06:47 PM
I could be completely wrong, and getting this confused with something else.
But didn’t the social media person responsible for last seasons hype leave at some stage?
Would make a lot of sense. Shame if true cause they did a good job of adding to the hype of each new signing
Yes. They did leave.
skullboy
21-06-2022, 08:03 PM
Turns out clubs announcing a signing tonight.
Based on the photo it doesn’t seem to be any of the rumoured signings, has a sleeve on both arms and piscopo only has a sleeve on the one
Source?
Mark325
21-06-2022, 08:06 PM
We’ve signed Piscopo!
My2BobsWorth
21-06-2022, 08:07 PM
A name was posted this morning, then deleted, very strange. Good player if true, probly spam, maybe
skullboy
21-06-2022, 08:08 PM
Turns out clubs announcing a signing tonight.
Based on the photo it doesn’t seem to be any of the rumoured signings, has a sleeve on both arms and piscopo only has a sleeve on the one
Don’t worry it’s Piscopo
Another Cam signing, probs never wear the jersey.
Bremsstrahlung
21-06-2022, 09:03 PM
Don’t worry it’s Piscopo
Yehp.
Lol, they didn’t even use his real picture in the “guess the player”, the Tatts don’t match.
mic22
21-06-2022, 10:59 PM
Another great signing... let's hope he stays at least the 1st season.
matty
22-06-2022, 12:43 AM
A name was posted this morning, then deleted, very strange. Good player if true, probly spam, maybe
Not spam, the name I have information about is still contracted to another club. His contract expires end of this month. Can't let the cat out of the bag too early
Mark325
22-06-2022, 09:41 AM
Not spam, the name I have information about is still contracted to another club. His contract expires end of this month. Can't let the cat out of the bag too early
Guessing you can’t say the name again if you deleted the message
StannyCFCJET
22-06-2022, 12:24 PM
Those that know stay silent, Those that dont know talk
Jetmaster
22-06-2022, 12:34 PM
Those that know stay silent, Those that dont know talk
This is the truest statement on this forum in a long while. The pending sale of the club is one of those - any stupid leak could kill it off.
Yet the Facebook crowd want daily updates.
Mark325
23-06-2022, 10:49 PM
Penha has officially left the club, thankfully not going to Sydney
Jeterpool
24-06-2022, 01:43 PM
Jets announcing a new signing at 5pm. From the list we have currently heard:
James McGarry - Defender
Jaushua Sotirio - Attacker
Rory Jordan - Attacker
14 Mohamed Al-Taay (1 year extension)
16 Kosta Grozos (1 year extension)
Mark Natta - defender
No guarantee it is one of these - just putting it out there.
Mark325
24-06-2022, 02:08 PM
Heard a rumour it could be Trent buhagair
Hunter403
24-06-2022, 02:14 PM
Heard a rumour it could be Trent buhagair
Runs fast and that's about it
Another Virgili. No end product just good over a 75mtr dash. Sort of signing that has Cous written all over it. Sensational on the beep test never mind can't play the game.
Mark325
24-06-2022, 05:58 PM
We’re definitely going for a pace heavy front third if we sign up Sotirio on top of this signing
Very curious if we plan on signing any internationals going forward. McGarry would be one, but unless some of these players aren’t starters I don’t see where the international signings are going to be slotted
belchardo
24-06-2022, 06:59 PM
Yep, buhagier. I'm not exactly popping champagne corks.
Same position as yuel?
Hunter403
24-06-2022, 07:50 PM
Another damn caravan dweller
My2BobsWorth
24-06-2022, 08:21 PM
Budgie would be good but who's gunna feed it
Jeterpool
24-06-2022, 08:38 PM
Budgie would be good but who's gunna feed it
Long balls knocked into the channel to chase
Jeterpool
24-06-2022, 09:27 PM
I think we have 4 of 5 of our preferred front 3 signed. Sotirio will be the 5th.
Midfield will be thurgate and O'Neill with a yet to be signed player as a 10.
Back 4 as is so far.
Weier and Duncan fighting for keeper jersey
Sotirio will be spending most game days in the stand in his club after 5's or at home on away game weekends watching from his lounge.
Bremsstrahlung
25-06-2022, 12:17 AM
At least we won’t have a “not my squad” to fall back on.
Aside from penha, seems like we are identifying targets and getting them. Much the same as we identified those to let go. I imagine all would have been happy to stay.
My2BobsWorth
25-06-2022, 09:35 AM
Long balls knocked into the channel to chase
Yeah, Penha was our precision long pass specialist, don't know who's going to fill that gap
Maito Mitch
25-06-2022, 04:00 PM
So we let Yuel go. And signed Buhagiar. Yeah. Cool. Go Jets
The Hacker
25-06-2022, 04:21 PM
So we let Yuel go. And signed Buhagiar. Yeah. Cool. Go Jets
21 goals in 74 games prob a better return than Yuel
Maito Mitch
25-06-2022, 04:35 PM
21 goals in 74 games prob a better return than Yuel
Yeah I get that. There's more of a connection with Yuel though. Who's Buhagiar? Ex coastie and Sydney FC? No thanks.
Give a local bloke a go. Bring back Virgilli. Play Hoff on the wing.
We're replacing a decent A-league player with a decent A-league player who stinks of sccum.
Would you rather win 1-0 with a team of coasties or lose 1-0 with a team of locals? Sure professional sport is all about winning. But what good is winning when you've got no connection to your local club?
Play the kids. Play the locals. Sure bring in quality, but Buhagiar ain't it imo
Mark325
25-06-2022, 04:48 PM
Play the kids. Play the locals. Sure bring in quality, but Buhagiar ain't it imo
I get the vibe that our club has very little interest in our locals atm. If Archie wasn’t already signed to the club when Papas got here it wouldn’t surprise me if we still looked elsewhere.
None of our younger signings under Papas have been newcastle related and based on rumours it doesn’t seem like that’s going to change this off season either.
My2BobsWorth
25-06-2022, 07:28 PM
If you want to watch locals go watch Broadmeadow or wateva, this is a business about getting more bums on seats. I was a temp for many years but became a member when they signed 2 blokes from England
Jeterpool
25-06-2022, 10:12 PM
So we let Yuel go. And signed Buhagiar. Yeah. Cool. Go Jets
Yuel left. He went to pursue an overseas contract. Let's just get that straight.
Hunter403
26-06-2022, 09:06 AM
Back 4 as is so far.
This worries me.
Maito Mitch
26-06-2022, 09:30 AM
I was a temp for many years but became a member when they signed 2 blokes from England
I bet you're in a very small minority. Sure those big names get people in the gate but the club's done nothing to keep them coming back.
The fact it is a business and the team is a franchise is exactly the feeling you get from them club and it's exactly why the league as a whole is struggling.
Of course I'd want to support a successful side. But I think a side you have zero connection with is some pretty hollow success.
I used to be hugely emotionally invested in the club, but I can feel it slipping away.
Fair enough about Yuel, I didn't realise that. Good luck to him. Signing blokes like Buhagiar and especially Sotirio as replacements isn't very inspiring. Just the A-League merry go round
Mark325
26-06-2022, 02:28 PM
This worries me.
I think with a real CDM ahead of em they will be better
Jetmaster
26-06-2022, 04:33 PM
I bet you're in a very small minority. Sure those big names get people in the gate but the club's done nothing to keep them coming back.
The fact it is a business and the team is a franchise is exactly the feeling you get from them club and it's exactly why the league as a whole is struggling.
Of course I'd want to support a successful side. But I think a side you have zero connection with is some pretty hollow success.
I used to be hugely emotionally invested in the club, but I can feel it slipping away.
Fair enough about Yuel, I didn't realise that. Good luck to him. Signing blokes like Buhagiar and especially Sotirio as replacements isn't very inspiring. Just the A-League merry go round
He is 100% correct though. Professional football, not just this league, is about results and money....whatever it takes. And that involves high player turnover and favourites who dont hang around. People want winners...how many people do you know who support an EPL club outside the Sky 6?
I'll take the entire Coastie team if it guarantees us trophies!
I agree with your sentiment but sadly those days are gone for now.
turbojetfireV8
26-06-2022, 10:06 PM
anyone aware if the rumour we are chasing Ninkovic has any substance behind it or is it just hot air? seems like a somewhat odd choice if there's any truth in it
anyone aware if the rumour we are chasing Ninkovic has any substance behind it or is it just hot air? seems like a somewhat odd choice if there's any truth in it
Lets hope not, Bloke was pushing shite up hill to run out 45mins of football last season.
Mark325
27-06-2022, 05:02 PM
Jets have signed Sotirio for 2 years
Frodo
27-06-2022, 05:07 PM
Jets have signed Sotirio for 2 years
I am disappointed to hear this news.
To whom it may concern at the Jets.
Please do not use the word explosive to describe Sotirio as it makes you look really silly and never seen him play.
Cheers
380
turbojetfireV8
27-06-2022, 08:42 PM
agreed in the disappointment about Sotirio, especially the two years stuck with him bit, can't help but think this one is a dud signing and probably using way too much of our salary cap than he is worth...
agreed in the disappointment about Sotirio, especially the two years stuck with him bit, can't help but think this one is a dud signing and probably using way too much of our salary cap than he is worth...
If Sotirio is considered a first 16 player then we clearly have a work experience person with too much power at the club making signings. If he is considered to be further down the pecking order than that then perhaps that squad spot could have been earmarked for a local worthy at a shot this level eh.
Mark325
28-06-2022, 05:38 PM
Rory Jordan has been signed on for 2 years
Can’t say I’m overly familiar with him but according to some in the know this is quality signing
turbojetfireV8
28-06-2022, 08:50 PM
all these *engines*, just hope we've got someone lined up who can distribute a ball to them...
Mark325
30-06-2022, 10:46 AM
Lucas Mauragis has been signed on for two more seasons and loaned out to Wellington for this upcoming season
StannyCFCJET
30-06-2022, 11:05 AM
Lucas Mauragis has been signed on for two more seasons and loaned out to Wellington for this upcoming season
club doing dumb things once again
club doing dumb things once again
Concur
Great news that hes signed on for two more seasons..
Stupid news that hes loaned straight to the Kiwis.. :blink::facepalm:
Frodo
30-06-2022, 12:21 PM
Considering we are about to announce their LB from last season, McGarry, this isn't a bad idea. Papas wants someone more 'finished product' for the position, which he gets, and we don't automatically lose a talented player in Mauragus.
I love Mauragus, so I'd love to see him starting every week, but that's based on emotion and not purely for footballing reasons. You can definitely see the gaps in his game that's need work. Hopefully he can fix those in NZ and come back to us even better. Either way, I'm happy he isn't going well sit on a bench for the majority of the season.
Buddha
30-06-2022, 02:53 PM
Considering we are about to announce their LB from last season, McGarry, this isn't a bad idea. Papas wants someone more 'finished product' for the position, which he gets, and we don't automatically lose a talented player in Mauragus.
I love Mauragus, so I'd love to see him starting every week, but that's based on emotion and not purely for footballing reasons. You can definitely see the gaps in his game that's need work. Hopefully he can fix those in NZ and come back to us even better. Either way, I'm happy he isn't going well sit on a bench for the majority of the season.
You're not allowed to use logic on here! The response from many isnt unexpected tbh. What many fail to understand is the kid is 20, has plenty of learning to do, has the ability to be first choice LB but currently isnt. Talay is a good coach to learn from as well
matty
30-06-2022, 04:50 PM
Just remember who pays the bills to keep the lights on....
club doing dumb things once again
My2BobsWorth
30-06-2022, 05:24 PM
Shrinking squad, not much room for youth, owner sharing some of the load, making club look attractive?
Hunter403
01-07-2022, 08:29 AM
Papas wants someone more 'finished product' for the position, which he gets, and we don't automatically lose a talented player in Mauragus.
Hopefully he can fix those in NZ and come back to us even better.
What, Papas can't create the finished product himself?
Jeterpool
04-07-2022, 08:17 AM
We've signed Mark Natta for two seasons.
My2BobsWorth
04-07-2022, 09:11 AM
That's the name that was posted then deleted
Buddha
04-07-2022, 09:28 AM
Good signing, young mobile defender who has good passing ability as well. Lots of people complaining about letting Mauragis go on loan and signing Natta don't seem to understand that Natta is a CB
Mark325
04-07-2022, 10:36 AM
Seems like a better youth player then Warland so happy to see us signing improvements
Alton
04-07-2022, 01:33 PM
We've signed Mark Natta for two seasons.
Good player,happy with this signing.
Mark325
04-07-2022, 04:25 PM
Jordan O’Doherty - N/A
Mario Arques - N/A
Olivier Boumal - Reno Piscopo
Daniel Penha - N/A
Brandon Wilson - Brandon O'Neil
Dylan Murnane - N/A
Valentino Yuel - Jaushua Sotirio
Taylor Regan - N/A
Savvas Siatravanos - Trent Buhagair
Samuel Silvera - Rory Jordan
Riley Warland - Mark Nata
Lucas Mauragis (Loaned to Wellington) - N/A
Those are the like for like replacements we've signed so far this off season
Need to sign a left back (McGarry) and a replacement for Penha above all else
anfield
05-07-2022, 09:26 AM
Papas has signed really well.
O'Neil is the player that will provide the team with a real competitor that will give the team believe that they can compete in the middle of the park.
Piscopo and Buhagair are players that are primed to take their games to the next level. Attackers with pace and skill and both at the age where the next year is the one which they could really kick on.
Natta, why not. Left sided Central defender. Look at Kyle Rowles, investing in good defenders could really be fruitful for the club.
Interesting Steve Ugarkovic gone to Wellington, a backwards step in my opinion. Obviously the jets weren't interested after the way he departed, Possibly consider O'Neil a better fit.
Mark325
05-07-2022, 10:07 AM
Signed McGarry for 2 years
Buddha
05-07-2022, 10:30 AM
Papas has signed really well.
O'Neil is the player that will provide the team with a real competitor that will give the team believe that they can compete in the middle of the park.
Piscopo and Buhagair are players that are primed to take their games to the next level. Attackers with pace and skill and both at the age where the next year is the one which they could really kick on.
Natta, why not. Left sided Central defender. Look at Kyle Rowles, investing in good defenders could really be fruitful for the club.
Interesting Steve Ugarkovic gone to Wellington, a backwards step in my opinion. Obviously the jets weren't interested after the way he departed, Possibly consider O'Neil a better fit.
Did you just say that Buhagiar has skill? The only skill he has is being quick. He is the ultimate A-League player in that he is exceptionally quick with no end product.
Natta imo is a very astute signing, a young and mobile defender with good passing range that suits the way Papas wants his defenders to progress with the ball.
ForeverRed
05-07-2022, 11:54 AM
I’d take Maraguis over McGarry anyday
Jetmaster
05-07-2022, 12:08 PM
I’d take Maraguis over McGarry anyday
Love how nobody looks at the real reason for Mauragis being out on loan - it isn't playing ability. A couple of the younger ones have believed their own publicity. Archie is one who is knuckling down.
As the Lord Griff said himself as gospel - "I had to leave home and leave my mum to grow up and be a better player".
StannyCFCJET
05-07-2022, 12:46 PM
Love how nobody looks at the real reason for Mauragis being out on loan - it isn't playing ability. A couple of the younger ones have believed their own publicity. Archie is one who is knuckling down.
As the Lord Griff said himself as gospel - "I had to leave home and leave my mum to grow up and be a better player".
Ive seen nothing from Lucas especially on the field to show he has become full of himself and too cocky, Unless you have some inside information you'd like to share
Frodo
05-07-2022, 01:08 PM
Love how nobody looks at the real reason for Mauragis being out on loan - it isn't playing ability. A couple of the younger ones have believed their own publicity. Archie is one who is knuckling down.
As the Lord Griff said himself as gospel - "I had to leave home and leave my mum to grow up and be a better player".
If he was full of himself he would have just rejected the extension and gone elsewhere??
Love how nobody looks at the real reason for Mauragis being out on loan - it isn't playing ability. A couple of the younger ones have believed their own publicity. Archie is one who is knuckling down.
As the Lord Griff said himself as gospel - "I had to leave home and leave my mum to grow up and be a better player".
That being the case then it would appear not only is Papas incapable of providing Lucas with the coaching he needs as a footballer like Talay can but also cannot manage him as a person. Maybe we should loan out Papas so he can improve in these area's.
R Ramjet
06-07-2022, 11:29 AM
That being the case then it would appear not only is Papas incapable of providing Lucas with the coaching he needs as a footballer like Talay can but also cannot manage him as a person. Maybe we should loan out Papas so he can improve in these area's.
Loan out Papas for a season while GVE takes over.
Imagine the scenes !
Jardelsimage
06-07-2022, 12:34 PM
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Loan out Papas for a season while GVE takes over.
Imagine the scenes !
Common knowledge.
Mark325
26-07-2022, 11:47 AM
We are trialling some American player named Jason Romero.
Played in a trial and scored 2 goals, and plays for APIA Leichhardt
Buddha
26-07-2022, 12:54 PM
WSW took him on trial last season, turned him down, then he scores against them to knock them out of FFA Cup.
Very good player, good movement, quality finisher. Been banging in the goals last couple of seasons
Jeterpool
02-08-2022, 09:32 AM
So, according to this tweet (https://twitter.com/QConners10/status/1553621920394153984) you cannot field players in the cup who are triallists.
Therefore, Grozos and Al-Taay have been extended. Length of contract undetermined.
We are still waiting on official word about Kanta, Babalj and Blake Archbold.
Interestingly, Kanta's number (5) has gone to Jurman. I recall an article which mentinoed both Kanta and Babalj are remaining with the club while they recover from injuries
Does anyone know if Blake Archbold is playing for the youth team?
northern_swan
02-08-2022, 10:09 AM
Does anyone know if Blake Archbold is playing for the youth team?
According to the team lists on the NSW football site, his last game was 5th June.
From what i'm hearing, there was a mass exedous of players from the Youth team during June more generally.
Jeterpool
02-08-2022, 10:27 AM
Kosta and Mo signed to one year deals - just not announced.
Mark325
02-08-2022, 06:53 PM
Jets are seemingly announcing Carl Jenkinson tomorrow
Jeterpool
02-08-2022, 08:20 PM
This is a good signing
Jeterpool
03-08-2022, 08:25 AM
Jenkinson signed on two-year deal.
Lets hope he sticks around longer than the last Carl.
The Hacker
03-08-2022, 09:03 AM
This is a good signing
Very good
Aegon
03-08-2022, 11:57 AM
Jenkinson signed on two-year deal.
Lets hope he sticks around longer than the last Carl.
Isn't it 2 years ?
Alton
03-08-2022, 01:46 PM
Very good
Great signing, someone that can cross a ball as well.
Jeterpool
04-08-2022, 11:55 AM
Announcement from club today at 3pm.
It will be Timmins and Stynes - the teasers aren't as crypic or obscure as they used to be :rof:
What mob represents those two players ?.
Alton
04-08-2022, 01:17 PM
Announcement from club today at 3pm.
It will be Timmins and Stynes - the teasers aren't as crypic or obscure as they used to be :rof:
Stynes goes good
Jeterpool
04-08-2022, 01:39 PM
What mob represents those two players ?.
Both are represented by Footballhouseplus, according to Transfermarkt - https://www.transfermarkt.com/footballhouseplus/beraterfirma/berater/5990
Bremsstrahlung
04-08-2022, 07:11 PM
Both are represented by Footballhouseplus, according to Transfermarkt - https://www.transfermarkt.com/footballhouseplus/beraterfirma/berater/5990
Lots of Jets logos there.
11.
Mark325
29-08-2022, 12:59 PM
Rumours the jets are signing another Beka
Beka Dartsmelia
scarfy96
29-08-2022, 03:12 PM
If it's true he seems like a traditional 6, lots of ball winning in his highlights. Still Jets could do with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMvROMylsA
Mark325
29-08-2022, 07:22 PM
If it's true he seems like a traditional 6, lots of ball winning in his highlights. Still Jets could do with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMvROMylsA
Watching that video, I think he offers a lot to this team. Considering our defensive issues and how few signings we've made to remedy them, a player who can stop the ball from getting to Elsey and Jurman as much as possible is a huge positive. Also seems to be more skillful and with some decent pace compared to your average number 6.
Will be interesting if we sign him what formation we'll be going for.
ranger
29-08-2022, 09:01 PM
He's signed according to his partners socials
scarfy96
29-08-2022, 10:05 PM
Brandon O'Neill, Gus, and now Beka will be plenty of competition for the holding midfield roles, which is good.
The Hacker
30-08-2022, 01:14 PM
Brandon O'Neill, Gus, and now Beka will be plenty of competition for the holding midfield roles, which is good.
Clearly going to play with 2 6’s
Bremsstrahlung
30-08-2022, 01:27 PM
Surely Gus would be moving forward a bit in the absence of a playmaker.
Frodo
30-08-2022, 02:11 PM
Finally going to a proper 4-3-3 that can switch between two 6s and two 8s as necessary. Good news, just need a decent CB and I'll be pretty happy.
StannyCFCJET
30-08-2022, 02:22 PM
Finally going to a proper 4-3-3 that can switch between two 6s and two 8s as necessary. Good news, just need a decent CB and I'll be pretty happy.
I echo these thoughts and hope that it's true
Aegon
30-08-2022, 03:46 PM
Finally going to a proper 4-3-3 that can switch between two 6s and two 8s as necessary. Good news, just need a decent CB and I'll be pretty happy.
100% agreed.
mic22
01-09-2022, 11:39 PM
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The Jets' lineup according to the A-leagues Instagram: kinda happy with that.
I'd personally swap Mikeltadze with Sotirio, kick Sotirio out and get a striker. But that's just me...
Oh and Weier for Duncan.
belchardo
08-01-2023, 06:04 PM
my thoughts on the current squad. We are just so unbalanced and uninspiring. Our visa spots are wasted. Younger guys don't seem to get a look in.
Last updated 30/8/22 following Dartsmelia signing
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23 - goodbye
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23 - thanks and goodbye
05 Jordan Elsey - signed until 22/23 - goodbye
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23 - goodbye
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 # - goodbye (even on minimum wage he's taking a visa spot)
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - signed until 22/23 - goodbye (haven't seen a lot of him but can't break into a terrible team)
16 Kosta Grozos - signed until 22/23 - goodbye
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23 - keep
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^ - keep
xx Daniel Stynes - signed until 22/23* - keep
xx Callum Timmins - signed until 22/23* - unsure - not been real impressed so far though
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24 - one of weier or duncan should be released if possible
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24 - one of weier or duncan should be released if possible
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 23/24 - get him back please
Xx Brandon O'Neill - signed until 23/24 - no change
xx Reno Piscopo - signed until 23/24 - no change
xx Trent Buhagiar - signed until 23/24 - no change
xx Jaushua Sotirio - signed until 23/24 - release if possible
xx Rory Jordan - signed until 23/24 - who?
xx Mark Natta - signed until 23/24 - extend for another two seasons
xx James McGarry - signed until 23/24 - no change
xx Carl Jenkinson - signed until 23/24 - no change
xx Beka Dartsmelia - signed until 23/24 - no change
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25 - no change
23 players signed for next season
- 22 A-League squad players from possible 23
- # = 3 Visa spot (Mikeltadze, McGarry, Jenkinson, Dartsmelia) from possible 5
- ^ = 1 Scholarships (James) from possible 3 (?)
- 1 Player loaned out (Mauragis @ Phoenix)
- * contract length has not been disclosed and it is believed this is the deal length
Rumoured
Zach Lisolajski
Joey Jevtic
Stefan Brecevic
Expired 21/22 and decision outstanding
5 Ben Kantarovski
23 Eli Babalj
28 Blake Archbold
Mark325
08-01-2023, 07:18 PM
my thoughts on the current squad. We are just so unbalanced and uninspiring. Our visa spots are wasted. Younger guys don't seem to get a look in.
One positive about that list is that barring the release of one keeper and Sotirio/Buhagair, a majority of our truly useless players are out of contract at the end of this season. From here, it's up to management to make the right calls and actually get rid of them and not reward these poor performances.
If you release all these shit players though, you get the same issue that is constantly plaguing this team, which is a mass exodus at the end of each season, which comes down to our recruitment just not being consistently good enough.
One positive about that list is that barring the release of one keeper and Sotirio/Buhagair, a majority of our truly useless players are out of contract at the end of this season. From here, it's up to management to make the right calls and actually get rid of them and not reward these poor performances.
If you release all these shit players though, you get the same issue that is constantly plaguing this team, which is a mass exodus at the end of each season, which comes down to our recruitment just not being consistently good enough.
Sadly with all those squad spots that become available we will just go out recycle every others clubs benchies as we usually do.
turbojetfireV8
19-01-2023, 10:09 PM
Herald story on January window - does it include looking for potential injury replacements seeing as they've re-laid part of MJ stadium yet again, where the stage was for the Elton concert this time??
Newcastle Jets might be going window shopping in January after all
By Robert Dillon
January 18 2023 - 8:00pm
THE Newcastle Jets might be going window shopping in January after all.
Newcastle coach Arthur Papas has been asked several times recently whether he hoped to bolster his struggling squad during the FIFA transfer window, which opened on January 10 and closes February 8, but on each occasion he replied that would be unlikely. But Jets executive chairman Shane Mattiske told the Newcastle Herald on Wednesday that position might change if the right player became available at the right place.
"We're investigating whether there are any changes we can make to carry the squad forward over the second half of the competition," Mattiske said.
"We've got a competitive team but we're always looking at what's possible to improve it.
"That's probably all I can say at this point."
Given that Newcastle have scored only 10 goals in 12 games this season, a creative attacking player would appear likely to feature at the top of their wish list.
One incumbent who has shown an ability to find the net is winger Daniel Stynes, who scored a goal-of-the-season contender in last week's 1-all draw with Western United.
Stynes, 24, joined Newcastle from Perth on a one-season deal and Mattiske admitted his spectacular strike had done his retention prospects no harm.
"It's great to have players who are performing, and that goal certainly demonstrated his value to us," Mattiske said. "It probably improves his chances [of a new deal], but there's still a long way to go in this season and we're looking for good performances across the field from all our players."
The Jets are hopeful the likely return of co-captain Brandon O'Neill will provide some creativity in Sunday's clash with third-placed Western Sydney Wanderers at McDonald Jones Stadium.
O'Neill has missed the past two games with a knee injury.
turbojetfireV8
19-01-2023, 10:19 PM
Pinched these images off FB from this week, re-laying of the pitch where the stage area was:
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Eastwest
20-01-2023, 04:22 PM
Pinched these images off FB from this week, re-laying of the pitch where the stage area was:
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1818
Pitch was dodgy before due to motocross so we might as well stuff it up every month
Frodo
21-01-2023, 04:44 PM
Elsey gone. How will our defence cope without his "leadership", lol.
I'll admit I was genuinely excited when we signed him as he was always solid, if a little bland, at Adelaide. But being asked to play anything but a Sweeper (same as Jurman) has shown that he clearly wasn't as talented as I'd thought and Adelaide just had a decent system for him to work in.
furns
21-01-2023, 05:55 PM
Rory Jordan also sent on loan to Apia
The Hacker
21-01-2023, 07:18 PM
Elsey gone. How will our defence cope without his "leadership", lol.
I'll admit I was genuinely excited when we signed him as he was always solid, if a little bland, at Adelaide. But being asked to play anything but a Sweeper (same as Jurman) has shown that he clearly wasn't as talented as I'd thought and Adelaide just had a decent system for him to work in.
Who has offered him a long term deal
StannyCFCJET
21-01-2023, 07:47 PM
Who has offered him a long term deal
He's off to Perth
The Hacker
21-01-2023, 08:45 PM
He's off to Perth
Their recruitment policy is on par with ours
Elsey gone. How will our defence cope without his "leadership", lol.
I'll admit I was genuinely excited when we signed him as he was always solid, if a little bland, at Adelaide. But being asked to play anything but a Sweeper (same as Jurman) has shown that he clearly wasn't as talented as I'd thought and Adelaide just had a decent system for him to work in.
Zads obviously seen enough when the karate kick that gave away a penalty and got him sent off in our first game and feels that he needs that type of lunacy in his side
belchardo
22-01-2023, 10:02 AM
I'm encouraged that we are finding a way to move a few players on. I assume it means we have some pretty good prospects for new signings.
Frodo
22-01-2023, 11:03 AM
Their recruitment policy is on par with ours
I agree with the joke here, unfortunately they've just signed Taggart who would be the best striker in the league pretty comfortably. If they can somehow create chances their defense won't matter.
I'm encouraged that we are finding a way to move a few players on. I assume it means we have some pretty good prospects for new signings.
Your optimism has no place here LOL
belchardo
22-01-2023, 12:25 PM
Your optimism has no place here LOL
sometimes it just breaks through but it is rapidly pushed back to where it belongs.
Frodo
22-01-2023, 01:18 PM
sometimes it just breaks through but it is rapidly pushed back to where it belongs.
I just assumed you were being sarcastic, oops.
Jeterpool
23-01-2023, 10:39 AM
Last updated 23/01/23 following Jordan loan and Elsey departure
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - signed until 22/23
16 Kosta Grozos - signed until 22/23
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
18 Daniel Stynes - signed until 22/23*
19 Callum Timmins - signed until 22/23*
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 23/24
06 Brandon O'Neill - signed until 23/24
10 Reno Piscopo - signed until 23/24
07 Trent Buhagiar - signed until 23/24
11 Jaushua Sotirio - signed until 23/24
27 Rory Jordan - signed until 23/24 - Loaned to APIA Leichardt
23 Mark Natta - signed until 23/24
24 James McGarry - signed until 23/24
25 Carl Jenkinson - signed until 23/24
08 Beka Dartsmelia - signed until 23/24
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25
23 players signed for next season
- 22 A-League squad players from possible 23
- # = 3 Visa spot (Mikeltadze, McGarry, Jenkinson, Dartsmelia) from possible 5 (
- ^ = 1 Scholarships (James) from possible 3 (?)
- 2 Players loaned out (Mauragis @ Phoenix, Jordan at APIA Leichardt)
- * contract length has not been disclosed and it is believed this is the deal length
Jeterpool
23-01-2023, 10:42 AM
Hope we have started contract negotiations. Personally, I think Mikeltadze and Thurgate are our priority followed by Stynes and Timmins. Fine with Jurman and Grozos being offered new contract too.
I suspect James will move on. Both keepers have another year on him and if he's going to develop he needs to start getting game time.
Hoff is an interesting one and I could go either way (for the right $$). I think we need to improve on Ingham.
Alton
23-01-2023, 11:12 AM
Does anyone come in on money saved on Elsey and Jordan?
Buddha
23-01-2023, 03:50 PM
They should fold the club so we can all get on with our lives
Jetmaster
23-01-2023, 05:00 PM
They should fold the club so we can all get on with our lives
You can still get on with your life can't you?
Buddha
23-01-2023, 05:46 PM
You must be new here
Hope we have started contract negotiations. Personally, I think Mikeltadze and Thurgate are our priority followed by Stynes and Timmins. Fine with Jurman and Grozos being offered new contract too.
I suspect James will move on. Both keepers have another year on him and if he's going to develop he needs to start getting game time.
Hoff is an interesting one and I could go either way (for the right $$). I think we need to improve on Ingham.
Depends what the goal is
If we want to be shit again next year then we might as well sign Hoffman Jurman etc
You know the old philosophy if it ain't broke then don't fix it etc
If we want to be good then the only way either should be at a Jets game is sitting in the stands watching
Jeterpool
24-01-2023, 08:40 AM
Depends what the goal is
If we want to be shit again next year then we might as well sign Hoffman Jurman etc
You know the old philosophy if it ain't broke then don't fix it etc
If we want to be good then the only way either should be at a Jets game is sitting in the stands watching
Totally get that. I think the goal depends on the ownership. We're nothing more than a placeholder while the other 4 clubs who run us are in charge.
We won't progress until we are independent of them.
If we have new owners we need to be aiming higher - completely agree. But I can't think about what might be - only what currently is.
Tommyjet
25-01-2023, 07:14 AM
Manadu Saito confirmed. Always wanted a Japanese player at the jets. He'll probably come in and play too many progressive passes and get benched
Maito Mitch
25-01-2023, 12:34 PM
Hopefully his half season trial for one of the Sydney clubs goes well
Eastwest
25-01-2023, 05:21 PM
Hopefully his half season trial for one of the Sydney clubs goes well
This is the major reason why Jets are stupid.
How many great young players have we let go ensuring we stay as top p1ssant town taking the title off Adelaids
anfield
30-01-2023, 12:51 PM
Was there a story behind Jordan Elsey's departure? One of the first players named on the teamsheet for first half of the season, now gone.
Hunter403
30-01-2023, 03:40 PM
Rumor is a falling out with the coach.
belchardo
30-01-2023, 04:14 PM
I thought there was something about a longer term deal with Perth.
anfield
30-01-2023, 06:57 PM
Could leave them short in central defence now with only 3 obvious options
Frodo
30-01-2023, 07:26 PM
I thought there was something about a longer term deal with Perth.
Perth fans knew he was coming before anyone even knew he was a chance to leave us, obviously they had made him an offer and knew he would take the longer deal. As anyone would in his position.
If he had some sort of falling out, don't see how he would have been starting all the games he did. Sounds like rubbish to me.
Eastwest
31-01-2023, 04:21 PM
Was there a story behind Jordan Elsey's departure? One of the first players named on the teamsheet for first half of the season, now gone.
He became less consistent the longer he was here. No loss for mine
Jetmaster
01-02-2023, 01:00 PM
Perth fans knew he was coming before anyone even knew he was a chance to leave us, obviously they had made him an offer and knew he would take the longer deal. As anyone would in his position.
If he had some sort of falling out, don't see how he would have been starting all the games he did. Sounds like rubbish to me.
Spot on.
The Dunster
02-02-2023, 05:43 PM
Anyone been to training and seen Manadu Saito in action ?
mic22
02-02-2023, 10:34 PM
https://newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/alm-alw-ins-and-outs-4
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fnxgv5iaUAMV4Ye?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
sorry couldn't resize
Jetmaster
03-02-2023, 10:48 AM
Most stupid FB comment of the week - criticising the Jets for getting someone who is "too short to be a number 4".
Mark325
08-02-2023, 04:42 PM
McGarry is gone, and in his place are Phillip Cancar and Thomas Aquilina who are joining the club effective immediately but are signed on for next season
Macca
09-02-2023, 08:10 AM
Thought McGarry was good in attack and possession, but a bit suspect defensively.
If memory serves he was dropped after a few games in a row where poor defending allowed scoring chances from his side which cost us.
It was nice having a natural left back though.
Jeterpool
09-02-2023, 10:00 AM
Last updated 09/02/23 following Cancar, Saito and Aquilina signing, McGarry departure.
Expiring 22/23
02 Dane Ingham - signed until 22/23
03 Jason Hoffman - signed until 22/23
04 Manabu Saito - signed until 22/23
06 Matthew Jurman - signed until 22/23
09 Beka Mikeltadze - signed until 22/23 #
14 Mohamed Al-Taay - signed until 22/23
16 Kosta Grozos - signed until 22/23
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 22/23
30 Noah James - signed until 22/23 ^
18 Daniel Stynes - signed until 22/23*
19 Callum Timmins - signed until 22/23*
Expiring 23/24
20 Michael Weier - signed until 23/24
23 Jack Duncan - signed until 23/24
27 Lucas Mauragis - signed until 23/24
06 Brandon O'Neill - signed until 23/24
10 Reno Piscopo - signed until 23/24
07 Trent Buhagiar - signed until 23/24
11 Jaushua Sotirio - signed until 23/24
27 Rory Jordan - signed until 23/24 - Loaned to APIA Leichardt
23 Mark Natta - signed until 23/24
25 Carl Jenkinson - signed until 23/24
08 Beka Dartsmelia - signed until 23/24
xx Phillip Cancar - signed until 23/24
xx Thomas Aquilina - signed until 23/24
Expiring 24/25
26 Archie Goodwin - signed until 24/25
Summary
25 players signed for season
- 23 A-League squad players from possible 23
- # = 4 Visa spot (Mikeltadze, Saito, Jenkinson, Dartsmelia) from possible 5
- ^ = 1 Scholarships (James) from possible 3 (?)
- 2 Players loaned out (Mauragis @ Phoenix, Jordan at APIA Leichardt)
- * contract length has not been disclosed and it is believed this is the deal length
mic22
09-02-2023, 11:32 AM
I'm desperately trying to make sense of the fact that Ingham and Hoffman are considered better options than McGarry at left back.
Starting to lose faith in Papas.
I'm desperately trying to make sense of the fact that Ingham and Hoffman are considered better options than McGarry at left back.
Starting to lose faith in Papas.
Or the need to send Maurguis out of the club and country as well
Thought McGarry was good in attack and possession, but a bit suspect defensively.
If memory serves he was dropped after a few games in a row where poor defending allowed scoring chances from his side which cost us.
It was nice having a natural left back though.
He was pretty much out of favor since the Victory game where he got turned inside out a few times. Clearly AP has his favorites who get numerous free passes for shit house performances whilst others get the ass in a heart beat.
Macca
09-02-2023, 12:43 PM
Or the need to send Maurguis out of the club and country as well
I wonder if Mauragis is one of the reasons McGarry is let go. I haven't personally seen any of him this year but supposedly he's been doing well.
Maybe well enough that the club has decided we don't need McGarry for next season.
samcan
10-02-2023, 07:15 PM
I wonder if Mauragis is one of the reasons McGarry is let go. I haven't personally seen any of him this year but supposedly he's been doing well.
Maybe well enough that the club has decided we don't need McGarry for next season.
As well versed on here. We shouldnt have let him go
Jetmaster
13-02-2023, 02:24 PM
As well versed on here. We shouldnt have let him go
We haven't - he is on loan so could be called back anytime.
turbojetfireV8
27-03-2023, 10:29 PM
Herald today:
A-League soccer: Georgian Beka Dartsmelia departs as Jets move to retain home grown midfielder Angus Thurgate
By James Gardiner
Updated March 27 2023 - 6:23pm, first published 6:00pm
GEORGIAN midfielder Beka Darstmelia has been granted a release from his contract at the Newcastle Jets and will not return to the A-League club.
Coach Arthur Papas had planned to build an attack around Dartsmelia when he signed the attacking midfielder to a three-year deal last August.
However, the 22-year-old has struggled to settle on and off the pinch and approached the club about an early exit.
Dartsmelia returned home last week for a training camp with the Georgian under-21 side, where he is one of three overage players, and will not return to Newcastle.
"Beka has requested and we have granted him a release on compassionate grounds," Jets executive chairman Shane Mattiske said. "We signed him to a three-year contract but he was unsettled and wanted to return home. He was due back in Newcastle on Thursday, but over the course of the weekend, we have agreed for him to stay there."
A left-footer, Dartsmelia announced his arrival in the A-League with a contender for goal of the year in the 3-1 triumph over Wellington in round three.
The youth international played a one-two with Reno Piscopo before unleashing a stunning left-foot thunderbolt from 25 yards which arrowed into the top left corner.
He started in the No.10 position for the opening 10 rounds, but has since dropped down the pecking order behind Kosta Grozos and Reno Piscopo, who is expected to return after a month out with a groin injury against Melbourne City at AAMI Park on Sunday.
"Arthur has done a good job of building a squad with real depth and whilst the departure of Beka Dartsmelia wasn't in our plans, the belief is that we have players in the squad to cover that role for the balance of the season," Mattiske said.
Grozos is among 11 players off contract.
Mattiske said the club was in talks with a number of players and confirmed that home-grown star Angus Thurgate had been offered a new multi-year deal.
"We have made a very strong offer to keep Gus here not just for next year, but beyond," Mattiske said. "It is now in his hands as to whether he stays or not."
Thurgate's preference is to find a club in Europe.
Meanwhile, Jets assistant coach Ric Marchioli has departed to take up head coach role in the Victorian National Premier League.
Marchioli joined the Jets last season and guided the youth team to an NPL3 title.
"It is a good opportunity for Ric to step up and take the reins as a head coach," Mattiske said.
"That opportunity is now, so unfortunately that means he departs immediately to be there for next weekend."
Marchioli will not be replaced this season.
"If Arthur needs to lean on [women's coach] Gary van Egmond or [youth team coach] Damian Zane, they are both there," Mattiske said.
House of cards
Fold the shit show already, When Mattiske says the club has " real depth " you know the club is being run with delusion being the primary KPI. Real depth ?. I will have some of what he is on.
Bremsstrahlung
28-03-2023, 09:50 AM
Hope Gus used this years highlights package for his Euro recruitment. Might be a chance of keeping him that way.
If he used last season’s he’s gone.
But seriously, Goodluck to him if he can get over there. A decent club could turn him into a Socceroo.
Jetmaster
28-03-2023, 11:50 AM
A new contract with the Hoole Euro getout clause should suffice.
The kid has delusions if he thinks he is capable of getting a run in Europe
He don't even stand out in this shit squad that we have
Timewilltell
10-04-2023, 08:43 AM
Hes signed with Western United .. home ground talent to play against us whilst we sign another WSW reject
Are Western United still one of the clubs propping us up ?.
The Hacker
10-04-2023, 06:59 PM
Hes signed with Western United .. home ground talent to play against us whilst we sign another WSW reject
Ridiculous if that?s the case. If we don?t keep home grown talents we should just end it
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