2023 NPL Mens

[Taffy]

Liverpool 7 -0 Manchester United

What an absolute joke, there is not the quality in England for a 20 team Premier League comp.

They need to reduce the amount of teams if there are scorelines like this.

[Taffy]

When a player does the wrong thing and gets sent off, everyone blames the referee. I watched the send offs (Jaffas V Weston) on Bar TV (I only saw two) and they were both red cards. Last week's Charlestown send offs were all correct. There is a hate the referee culture in this town that is on another level.

Which is why there aren't enough refs, hopefully, Northern allocates refs to teams that aren't getting reds and yellows for abuse and those that do have to live with the consequences of 1 or 2 refs.

[jessepinkman]

Compete 🤷*♂️

Wonderfully insightful and useful from FR as usual. Compete. A broad statement that completely ignores the rest of the post.

How do you want them to do that?

Spend juniors rego money on overrated and overpaid journeymen?

I think I outlined it in my previous post but eating the metaphorical cow dung for a few years while you build appropriately is the club friendly way to do it. With no relegation, they can spend money on infrastructure and development until that threat finally actually exists.

When the eagles joined the npl everyone cried that they’d be another low tier team spending unjustified money on a small talent pool. They actively don’t do that and give youth and existing players a chance (their ressies have a handful club juniors of 10+ years) and you still badmouth them. Newy football huh?

[ForeverRed]

Wonderfully insightful and useful from FR as usual. Compete. A broad statement that completely ignores the rest of the post.

How do you want them to do that?

Spend juniors rego money on overrated and overpaid journeymen?

I think I outlined it in my previous post but eating the metaphorical cow dung for a few years while you build appropriately is the club friendly way to do it. With no relegation, they can spend money on infrastructure and development until that threat finally actually exists.

When the eagles joined the npl everyone cried that they’d be another low tier team spending unjustified money on a small talent pool. They actively don’t do that and give youth and existing players a chance (their ressies have a handful club juniors of 10+ years) and you still badmouth them. Newy football huh?
I’m not bad mouthing anyone , what you on about you joker, no matter who you put on the pitch all you can ask is that they compete, its obvious you don’t understand my comment. There’s no points given out for having long serving clubman either

[Hunter403]

Maybe they are saving up all the money from the JDL and youth kids till they can go on a spending splurge.
If NNSW cut the fees on JDL and youth back to say $800 a lot of clubs will struggle to pay the players what they are on now. Which is over the odds for the quality of players.

Going to be interesting for club budgets over the next few years. With the youth comp being all in together with promotion and relegation it is going to be hard for clubs to justify $2000 plus fees when others in the same comp can charge less than $1000.

[jessepinkman]

I’m not bad mouthing anyone , what you on about you joker, no matter who you put on the pitch all you can ask is that they compete, its obvious you don’t understand my comment. There’s no points given out for having long serving clubman either

The ressies players that are 5-10 years that I mentioned would be 20
yo max, they’re playing their own youth. There’s clearly a plan there.

[ForeverRed]

The ressies players that are 5-10 years that I mentioned would be 20
yo max, they’re playing their own youth. There’s clearly a plan there.
No one’s denying the plan, you questioned my comment and now you are deflecting elsewhere, all I said was teams need to compete and you attacked me 🤷*♂️

[The Hacker]

No one’s denying the plan, you questioned my comment and now you are deflecting elsewhere, all I said was teams need to compete and you attacked me 🤷*♂️

I think FR is spot on all you want is them to be competitive each week and give themselves a chance of winning. They don’t have to win just not get lapped

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’d be happy to cut NL some slack for the season and yes, no relegation means they are certainly able to ease into things and give their current crop a go.

I don’t think FR’s opinion differs to yours or anybodies opinion. Everyone wants a competitive comp full of teams that can put in some good performances. Nobody wants teams to struggle, or 1 team to run away with it.


Honestly, I think the bigger red flag will be if NL club can avoid finishing last. Other clubs (bar cooks Hill) have had 10 years to get their shit together, without fear of relegation. If NL are in a better position on or off the field than any other club, there should be serious questions asked.

[jessepinkman]

No oneÂ’s denying the plan, you questioned my comment and now you are deflecting elsewhere, all I said was teams need to compete and you attacked me 🤷*♂️

Not deflecting at all, you said you donÂ’t win points for playing clubmen and I clarified my initial statement about their ressies team being lads of 10+ years at the club to demonstrate that I mean kids who are 20yo not old fellas who have spent 10 years in seniors. I just think itÂ’s a commendable thing to do.

your compete comment was condescending, regardless of how you try to frame it now - considering you were replying to my post onÂ… why they havenÂ’t been able to compete at that level so far. My question in that thread was what would you like them to kkdo, considering theyÂ’re not going to be able to have player wages covered by a real estate agents tax write offs.

[Milland]

From the word on the street they spent the last few years rolling around in a rolls Royce in a pub comp, players will be eventually found out.

You just want to see them be competing in the premier competition but as shown, they’ve got pub level players in a premier competition.

Don’t you mean a premier pub competition? You are all having yourself on if you think the local NPL is anything other than a pub competition. There are six teams within a 5km radius of each other. The crowds consist of 50 people (who are usually family members). Football, in Newcastle, is embarrassing!

[travellingman]

Don’t you mean a premier pub competition? You are all having yourself on if you think the local NPL is anything other than a pub competition. There are six teams within a 5km radius of each other. The crowds consist of 50 people (who are usually family members). Football, in Newcastle, is embarrassing!

Totally agree and every player picks the Joker each week.

[Devon Sangas]

Some great fixtures this weekend! Couple of derbies in the mix. The matches between Weston/Edgeworth and Maitland/Azzurri should be very entertaining.

What's everyone's predictions?

[Hurricane]

Some great fixtures this weekend! Couple of derbies in the mix. The matches between Weston/Edgeworth and Maitland/Azzurri should be very entertaining.

What's everyone's predictions?
What are your predictions Devon

[Colonel]

hey

What do most NPL players get paid these days (firsts and reserves).?
Back when I was playing (20 years ago) it was $150 a win for first grade and $90 a win reserve grade.

[Hunter403]

hey

What do most NPL players get paid these days (firsts and reserves).?
Back when I was playing (20 years ago) it was $150 a win for first grade and $90 a win reserve grade.

According to NNSWF no player is paid as there are no contracts in NNSWF. Paid? You must be dreaming!

[MFKS]

hey

What do most NPL players get paid these days (firsts and reserves).?
Back when I was playing (20 years ago) it was $150 a win for first grade and $90 a win reserve grade.

It shows how much a farce when the 10th strongest level or so in Australian football is getting paid this type of money

No wonder the game is screwed

Can't imagine guys playing in the 10th strongest league in Argentina are getting paid this type of coin

[Colonel]

According to NNSWF no player is paid as there are no contracts in NNSWF. Paid? You must be dreaming!

how times have changed!

[Taffy]

how times have changed!

They are getting paid, and more than what you were not just for wins either

[Hunter403]

how times have changed!

Sorry, I was tongue in cheek. NNSWF likes to pretend that no one gets paid. We all know the reality.

[Devon Sangas]

What are your predictions Devon

Lambton 4 - 1 New Lambton
Weston 2 - 1 Edgeworth
Maitland 1 - 1 Azzurri
Cooks Hill 1 - 0 Valentine
Olympic 2 - 1 Magic
Adamstown 3 - 2 Lakes

[SAPDADDY]

hey

What do most NPL players get paid these days (firsts and reserves).?
Back when I was playing (20 years ago) it was $150 a win for first grade and $90 a win reserve grade.

Evans getting paid $1600+ a game at Weston.

Thank the outrages JDL rego for those game payments

[The Hacker]

Evans getting paid $1600+ a game at Weston.

Thank the outrages JDL rego for those game payments

If true that’s insane

[MFKS]

Evans getting paid $1600+ a game at Weston.

Thank the outrages JDL rego for those game payments


Blame those tolerating it

The clubs spend the money on this through their choice
to do so

It's their chosen model to operate their clubs on

The money ain't going to coaches or equipment or stadium developments

It's going to pay players who shouldn't be paid at all by fleecing junior participants

Blame those tolerating this ridiculous situation

[Taffy]

Evans getting paid $1600+ a game at Weston.

Thank the outrages JDL rego for those game payments

I'd be blaming the committee for setting the club's JDL rego and giving Kew such as large budget

[WOW2.0]

Talent pool question is easily dealt with...end reserve grade, release the younger talented players stuck in this pointless division to first grade clubs, at what ever level they can get into ��

On player payments, I don't know what locals are paid, but VicNPL, I saw what Avondale do from when they got into trouble a couple of years ago, for putting player payments down as hobby income to avoid taxes...several of the key players were upwards of $2500/match 26 game season (+65k untaxed hobby income, not bad...of course their SAP and Youth fees down there are much higher as well to afford such a grand vanity project)

[Speedymetric]

Hang on!

Is Josh Evans at Weston?

How did I miss that?

[Once played]

Hang on!

Is Josh Evans at Weston?

How did I miss that?

Connor not Josh

[The Hacker]

Connor not Josh

Even more of a joke

[2285]

Huge turn around from last week. Respect for Eagles with 1-1 draw..could have got the win … game of 2 half’s

[WOW2.0]

Huge turn around from last week. Respect for Eagles with 1-1 draw..could have got the win … game of 2 half’s

I wonder, does that mean we have to relegate Jaffas now too? :P

[W8 WATCHER]

Went out and watched edgy- look very sharp, magic look like they’ve lost some structure since DZ departure.

Anyone checked in on the eagles? They want back in on the second division yet, hurts to say this but they’ll be severely found out this year.

Hey trash army
Did u check in on the $200k jaffas, and see if they wanted back in second division.
Just curious ?
You sound like your a pub player, maybe there is a spot for you at the Eagles?
Pub player, pub opinions the backbone of football in this pub footballing town.
Just saying.

[Speedymetric]

Wow!

Even $1600 for Josh would be overs wouldn’t it?

Anyway good luck to anyone earning that but surely it’s not a sustainable business model.

[GashArmy]

Hey trash army
Did u check in on the $200k jaffas, and see if they wanted back in second division.
Just curious ?
You sound like your a pub player, maybe there is a spot for you at the Eagles?
Pub player, pub opinions the backbone of football in this pub footballing town.
Just saying.

You go to the well enough times you’ll find water..

Enjoy dropping down divisions to coach, you might finally win a few games :)

[W8 WATCHER]

You go to the well enough times you’ll find water..

Enjoy dropping down divisions to coach, you might finally win a few games :)
Outstanding 👏
Banjo Patterson would be proud
Even in times of drought, looking for water in a well, I will still come across a drip- trash.
Not sure why your bagging my coaching, now I'm coaching at your level. Maybe we can win together.

[GashArmy]

Outstanding 👏
Banjo Patterson would be proud
Even in times of drought, looking for water in a well, I will still come across a drip- trash.
Not sure why your bagging my coaching, now I'm coaching at your level. Maybe we can win together.

Now now let’s not get too carried away… I’m happy supporting the only competitive eagles team in the comp.

[finzee]

Great to see the red grubmeadow show their diseased culture again today.

What a club, bottom feeders till the end.

[The Magician]

Great to see the red grubmeadow show their diseased culture again today.

What a club, bottom feeders till the end.

3-2 with 10 Men... BANG BANG!!!

[BS detecor]

Great to see the red grubmeadow show their diseased culture again today.

What a club, bottom feeders till the end.

1 sour grape souvlaki plz extra salt

[The Magician]

1 sour grape souvlaki plz extra salt

Hahhahahhaha... BS for PM!

[Devon Sangas]

Great to see the red grubmeadow show their diseased culture again today.

What a club, bottom feeders till the end.

What happened? Good game?

[WOW2.0]

1 sour grape souvlaki plz extra salt

There's a distinct lack of clubs selling food from their various cultural heritage...that's the biggest shame in local football

#MakeFoodEdibleAgain

[matjpacker]

There's a distinct lack of clubs selling food from their various cultural heritage...that's the biggest shame in local football

#MakeFoodEdibleAgain

We were thinking of adding Haggis and Cullen Skink to the menu at Alder Park this season… haha

[Two tone]

Anyone have a link for reserve grade results and table?

[Lord Elland]

Lakes looking good this year !

[matjpacker]

Anyone have a link for reserve grade results and table?

Assuming it doesn’t reset back to NPL / First Grade

https://registration.squadi.com/competitions?competitionUniqueKey=f6ade1f5-97f6-4ceb-9e70-c1e1cf6dfab8&yearId=5

[Two tone]

Assuming it doesn’t reset back to NPL / First Grade
https://registration.squadi.com/competitions?competitionUniqueKey=f6ade1f5-97f6-4ceb-9e70-c1e1cf6dfab8&yearId=5

Thanks

[WOW2.0]

We were thinking of adding Haggis and Cullen Skink to the menu at Alder Park this season… haha

Would come to games!

[Taffy]

Why are people on here celebrating a draw, pub league indeed.

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions?

Magic 2 - 1 Cooks Hill
Weston 2 - 0 Olympic
Adamston 1 - 1 NL
Azzurri 2 - 0 Lakes
Maitland 3 - 1 Valo
Edgeworth 3 - 2 Jaffas

[MCG_1997]

Magic 3 - 0 Cooks Hill
Weston 2 - 1 Olympic
Adamston 2 - 1 NL
Azzurri 4 - 1 Lakes
Maitland 2 - 1 Valo
Edgeworth 2 - 2 Jaffas

[Grapevine]

Magic 3-0 Cooks hills
Weston 3-0 Olympic
Adamstown 1-3 NL
Azzurri 5-0 Lakes
Maitland 3-1 Valo
Edgeworth 2-1 Jaffas

[W8 WATCHER]

Magic 2-0 Cooks hills
Weston 4-1 Olympic
Adamstown 0-4 NL
Azzurri 6-0 Lakes
Maitland 4-1 Valo
Edgeworth 3-1 Jaffas

[magician]

Magic 2-1
Draw
Draw
Azzurri 3-0
Maitland 3-1
Draw

[Mad with football]

A few ‘surprises’ this round, Valo over Maitland? Down to 10 and couldn’t hold on - New Lambton down to 10 ( bad decision also IMO) and still had more energy & wanted it more than a disappointing Buds. Jaffas found some form? But tipsy Turvey so far , need give it a few more rounds to settle but looks like a clear divide of ‘haves and have nots’, again!!!

[Devon Sangas]

A few ‘surprises’ this round, Valo over Maitland? Down to 10 and couldn’t hold on - New Lambton down to 10 ( bad decision also IMO) and still had more energy & wanted it more than a disappointing Buds. Jaffas found some form? But tipsy Turvey so far , need give it a few more rounds to settle but looks like a clear divide of ‘haves and have nots’, again!!!

Good win for Valo up there. Not an easy place to go and I don't think anyone really expected the result. Tipped as the favourites for the title, Maitland haven't been overly convincing so far this season. Long way to go though.

[Devon Sangas]

Ok, get your weekend predictions in.

Maitland 2 - 2 Weston
Magic 1 - 2 Lambton
NL 1 - 2 Valentine
Cooks Hill 1 - 1 Olympic
Lakes 0 - 2 Edgeworth
Azzurrii 4 - 0 Rosebuds

[magician]

Maitland 2-1
Magic Jaffas 1-1
NL 0 valo 2
Cooks hill olympic 2-2
Lakes 0 edgy 4
Azzurri 3 buds 1

[W8 WATCHER]

Maitland 2 - 3 Weston
Magic 2 - 2 Lambton
NL 2 - 0 Valentine
Cooks Hill 1 - 2 Olympic
Lakes 0 - 5 Edgeworth
Azzurrii 4 - 0 Rosebuds

[sapdad]

Fantasic initiative playing Maitland vs Weston youth and seniors on the same day.Two great clubs and hopefully they get a good crowd and nice weather for the day.

[namwob99]

Bit of rain down Lake Mac way this weekend?

[Alton]

Why have other got drainage?

[Alton]

Why haven?t they got drainage?

[Taffy]

Why haven?t they got drainage?

Council hasn't paid to put it in

[WOW2.0]

The few times I've been there when it's rained heavily, the lake is lapping on the road into the ground.

With how close it is to the water table, probably not very easy to drain that site...imagine it would cost a fortune to do.

[Singlespeed]

From Herald Article earlier in the year: https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8120119/charlestown-azzurri-lose-leader-for-maitland-clash/?cs=6188

"A more exciting development for the club is the securing of a $2 million grant for a new grandstand and changerooms, as well as $500,000 for a raised and relaid pitch with drainage."

Looks like they will get it sorted out soon.

[WOW2.0]

The bit I can read from that article is about Charlestown and Maitland...is it Charlestown getting a new grandstand and pitch drainage, or Lakes

(Stupid paywalls)

[Singlespeed]

Last few paragraphs are about Lakes. That is where that quote is from.

[Devon Sangas]

5 rounds in. Thoughts? Any surprises?

[Alton]

A new look top 4 or 5 is my call, no Magic or Edgy.

[Devon Sangas]

Long weekend predictions?

Olympic 2 - 2 Adamstown
Valentine 2 - 2 Weston
NL 1 - 3 Edgeworth
Lakes 1 - 2 Jaffas
Azzurri 3 - 1 Cooks Hill
Maitland 2 - 1 Magic

[Devon Sangas]

The comp is tightening up. I wonder if these washouts and cup games will hurt teams?

The next few weeks could prove to be crucial.

Edgey looked relatively solid again today

[Two tone]

The comp is tightening up. I wonder if these washouts and cup games will hurt teams?

The next few weeks could prove to be crucial.

Edgey looked relatively solid again today

Washouts why didn?t Edgeworth play the reserve grade game???

[Aegon]

Just moved some posts relating to youth football to the appropriate thread.

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend's predictions:

Lambton 2 - 1 Valentine
NL 1 - 1 Cooks Hill
Edgeworth 3 - 3 Maitland
Magic 4 - 0 Lakes
Olympic 1 - 3 Azzurri
Adamstown 2 - 2 Weston

[W8 WATCHER]

Weekend's predictions:

Lambton 4 - 1 Valentine
NL 2 - 0 Cooks Hill
Edgeworth 4 - 3 Maitland
Magic 3 - 0 Lakes
Olympic 1 - 3 Azzurri
Adamstown 2 - 4 Weston

[Alton]

I think Magic and Lakes could be a bloodbath, the only thing keeping the goals under 5 or 6 is the weather

[Sideline]

Any results from today ? Thanks

[SAPDADDY]

I think Magic and Lakes could be a bloodbath, the only thing keeping the goals under 5 or 6 is the weather

Well weren?t you wrong.

[WOW2.0]

Any results from today ? Thanks

Pretty sure today's games were:
Magic/Lakes - draw
Edge/Mait - draw
Charl/Olym - 2-1 win (Charlestown)

And pretty sure Jaffas won 2-1 over Valentine last night (don't know any other results

[Devon Sangas]

Pretty sure today's games were:
Magic/Lakes - draw
Edge/Mait - draw
Charl/Olym - 2-1 win (Charlestown)

And pretty sure Jaffas won 2-1 over Valentine last night (don't know any other results

Magic with a last minute pen to salvage a draw. Wowee

[W8 WATCHER]

Weekend's predictions:

Lambton 2 - 1 Valentine
NL 1 - 1 Cooks Hill
Edgeworth 3 - 3 Maitland
Magic 4 - 0 Lakes
Olympic 1 - 3 Azzurri
Adamstown 2 - 2 Weston

Hey Dev
i hope your placing bets on sports bet, your predictions weekly, are pretty close if not spot on.
well done, keep them coming

[Taffy]

Well weren?t you wrong.

There was a sprinkle of rain

[Devon Sangas]

Hey Dev
i hope your placing bets on sports bet, your predictions weekly, are pretty close if not spot on.
well done, keep them coming

👍
This round might be a bit more difficult...

Predictions:

Azzurri 3 - 1Jaffas
NL 1 - 1 Olympic
Rosebuds 1 - 2 Magic
Maitland 2 - 0 Cooks Hill
Valentine 2 - 2 Edgeworth
Lakes 1 - 1 Weston

[WOW2.0]

I thought Weston did excellently against Charlestown the other week (game I watched them)...I think they have more than a draw in them this weekend

[ForeverRed]

Cracking game today Azzurri v Jaffas, best team won in my opinion

[The Hacker]

Cracking game today Azzurri v Jaffas, best team won in my opinion

Agreed they will both be their abouts at the end. Thought Jaffas stayed very organized when they went down to 10 men. I guess they have had practice lately

[Devon Sangas]

Cracking game today Azzurri v Jaffas, best team won in my opinion

Yes, it was a very entertaining game and one of the largest crowds I've seen at a regular season game for a long time.

[WOW2.0]

Was a great game! Great crowd too!
2 of the goals (1 a piece) where stunning shots as well

NPL is great value entertainment

[ForeverRed]

Was a great game! Great crowd too!
2 of the goals (1 a piece) where stunning shots as well

NPL is great value entertainment

Easy tiger, it?s just one game, there?s a few clubs who need to raise the stakes to compete at that level

[WOW2.0]

Easy tiger, it?s just one game, there?s a few clubs who need to raise the stakes to compete at that level

What are you upset about in my comment...that NPL is great value entertainment?

Or that two of the shots in the game were great ��

[Taffy]

Anyone with a subscription able to copy and past this article?

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8180096/two-way-promotion-relegation-system-on-the-table-for-nnsw-npl/?cs=305

[The Hacker]

Anyone with a subscription able to copy and past this article?

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8180096/two-way-promotion-relegation-system-on-the-table-for-nnsw-npl/?cs=305

Two-way promotion-relegation system on the table for NNSW NPL

A proposed system for the return of promotion and relegation to Northern NSW men?s football will provide the opportunity for two clubs to make the jump to NPL each year.
The draft system is part of a promise, made last December when member zones overthrew the NNSW Football board, to implement promotion-relegation across men?s divisions from 2024.
The system, sent to clubs last month for discussion and feedback, promotes the premiers from the second-tier Northern League 1 and relegates the NPL wooden spooners.
However, it also gives second, third and fourth in NL1 the opportunity at promotion through a play-off series featuring the 11th placed team in NPL.
The NPL side plays fourth from NL1 in a semi-final, while second and third meet in the other. The winners then clash for the available spot in the following year?s NPL. The play-off series replaces the NL1 finals.
The proposal also allows for standard, one-place promotion-relegation between NL1 and the Zone Premier League, which will be renamed Northern League 2. That structure stretches to Zone League 1 and 2, to be renamed Northern League 3 and 4.
Performance-based promotion-relegation was last in place in 2015, after which the lack of clubs compliant with NPL criteria led NNSWF to put it on hold.
The former board?s decoupling of NPL youth and senior competitions this year was a step towards the return of promotion-relegation.

[Taffy]

The former board?s decoupling of NPL youth and senior competitions this year was a step towards the return of promotion-relegation.

Seems the old board was going to do it anyway rather than a promise from the new board. But this is good, 8 years of clubs being able to be mediocre has led to a poor competition.

[2ndclasscitizen]

The proposal also allows for standard, one-place promotion-relegation between NL1 and the Zone Premier League, which will be renamed Northern League 2. That structure stretches to Zone League 1 and 2, to be renamed Northern League 3 and 4.
Performance-based promotion-relegation was last in place in 2015, after which the lack of clubs compliant with NPL criteria led NNSWF to put it on hold.
The former board's decoupling of NPL youth and senior competitions this year was a step towards the return of promotion-relegation.

Does that mean Northern have loosened their criteria beyond youth decoupling? You've now got ZPL clubs that may not have met the same club/administrative/facilities criteria as the NPL clubs but are two good seasons on the pitch away from being in NPL.

[Aegon]

Two-way promotion-relegation system on the table for NNSW NPL

A proposed system for the return of promotion and relegation to Northern NSW men?s football will provide the opportunity for two clubs to make the jump to NPL each year.
The draft system is part of a promise, made last December when member zones overthrew the NNSW Football board, to implement promotion-relegation across men?s divisions from 2024.
The system, sent to clubs last month for discussion and feedback, promotes the premiers from the second-tier Northern League 1 and relegates the NPL wooden spooners.
However, it also gives second, third and fourth in NL1 the opportunity at promotion through a play-off series featuring the 11th placed team in NPL.
The NPL side plays fourth from NL1 in a semi-final, while second and third meet in the other. The winners then clash for the available spot in the following year?s NPL. The play-off series replaces the NL1 finals.
The proposal also allows for standard, one-place promotion-relegation between NL1 and the Zone Premier League, which will be renamed Northern League 2. That structure stretches to Zone League 1 and 2, to be renamed Northern League 3 and 4.
Performance-based promotion-relegation was last in place in 2015, after which the lack of clubs compliant with NPL criteria led NNSWF to put it on hold.
The former board?s decoupling of NPL youth and senior competitions this year was a step towards the return of promotion-relegation.

Awesome!

[Jardelsimage]

Does that mean Northern have loosened their criteria beyond youth decoupling? You've now got ZPL clubs that may not have met the same club/administrative/facilities criteria as the NPL clubs but are two good seasons on the pitch away from being in NPL.

i believe there will be standards(another word for criteria) to meet before ZL sides can rise to the top levels, exactly the same as before.
Some in NPL2 were removed from the top because they didn't meet these, and some were promoted without meeting these, so I hope the new board does a better job of administrating this.

These will have to be as you have said, club/administrative/facilities/etc, so I don't think to many in ZL has or will meet all of these in a hurry, but you never know.

[ForeverRed]

Two-way promotion-relegation system on the table for NNSW NPL

A proposed system for the return of promotion and relegation to Northern NSW men?s football will provide the opportunity for two clubs to make the jump to NPL each year.
The draft system is part of a promise, made last December when member zones overthrew the NNSW Football board, to implement promotion-relegation across men?s divisions from 2024.
The system, sent to clubs last month for discussion and feedback, promotes the premiers from the second-tier Northern League 1 and relegates the NPL wooden spooners.
However, it also gives second, third and fourth in NL1 the opportunity at promotion through a play-off series featuring the 11th placed team in NPL.
The NPL side plays fourth from NL1 in a semi-final, while second and third meet in the other. The winners then clash for the available spot in the following year?s NPL. The play-off series replaces the NL1 finals.
The proposal also allows for standard, one-place promotion-relegation between NL1 and the Zone Premier League, which will be renamed Northern League 2. That structure stretches to Zone League 1 and 2, to be renamed Northern League 3 and 4.
Performance-based promotion-relegation was last in place in 2015, after which the lack of clubs compliant with NPL criteria led NNSWF to put it on hold.
The former board?s decoupling of NPL youth and senior competitions this year was a step towards the return of promotion-relegation.

South Cardiff still had 2 years on their NPL licence when relegated and were then told there?d be no available promotion, lawyers said northern wouldn?t have a chance in hell in court but finances prevented this from happening, so it wasn?t from a lack of clubs having the right criteria it was from dinosaur administration, the new proposal I like but hey, don?t worry about the existing 2 year license they had and paid for 🤷*♂️

[Hunter403]

Does that mean Northern have loosened their criteria beyond youth decoupling? You've now got ZPL clubs that may not have met the same club/administrative/facilities criteria as the NPL clubs but are two good seasons on the pitch away from being in NPL.

This is my biggest concern. Why would any current NL1 club bother with youth?

[Taffy]

This is my biggest concern. Why would any current NL1 club bother with youth?

If they want to get promoted they will need to.

[Hunter403]

If they want to get promoted they will need to.

Is that set out as a criteria for promotion from current ZPL to NL1? If not, then you have an unfair playing field.

[Alton]

Is that set out as a criteria for promotion from current ZPL to NL1? If not, then you have an unfair playing field.

You guys are ready Mario with your facility, what a great derby with the Gunners

[Taffy]

Is that set out as a criteria for promotion from current ZPL to NL1? If not, then you have an unfair playing field.

I have no idea the article is the first I have heard about what the changes might be. I know that you need to get promoted from NL1 to NPL you need youth teams

[GO AWAY]

Based on table now

Awaba up
Lakes down

NL V Kahibah
Singo v Southy

As an example is that how it would work

[Taffy]

Based on table now

Awaba up
Lakes down

NL V Kahibah
Singo v Southy

As an example is that how it would work

With Thornton down and Kotara South up

Though Awaba have no youth so they won't be going up, will they give it to 2nd place (with 5th place now playing New Lambton) or is Lakes spared?

[Hunter403]

Using the example above...
Would Awaba even be allowed to compete?
If NL won, would they be NL1 Major Premiers?

A lot more info is needed from NNSW before anyone can make the call on it being a good or bad decision.

[Taffy]

Using the example above...
Would Awaba even be allowed to compete?
If NL won, would they be NL1 Major Premiers?

A lot more info is needed from NNSW before anyone can make the call on it being a good or bad decision.

How can NL be Major premiers, they are just playoff winners. They have this systems in a number of European leagues, they just call them playoff winners.

The League winner would be Awaba, though wouldn't be up for promotion. I think it means no finals as the playoffs will have to take their spot.

[Hunter403]

How can NL be Major premiers, they are just playoff winners. They have this systems in a number of European leagues, they just call them playoff winners.

The League winner would be Awaba, though wouldn't be up for promotion. I think it means no finals as the playoffs will have to take their spot.

Minor premiers are first past the post
Major Premiers win the post season series.
Don't worry, just playing devil's advocate. ;)

[Taffy]

Well whatever they call it. Maybe NL will be Major Premiers.

[Aegon]

With no grand final there is no need for distinction between minor and major premiers.

It would be "Premiers" and "playoff winners" or some such.

[WOW2.0]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but senior competition should not be required to have youth teams (obviously they want them, as it helps fund the senior teams) but for those that can't field them (for whatever reason), they should not be required to have them as a condition of their licences

Decoupling hopefully helps with that, and certainly wouldn't want a great senior team to suffer for a "club championship" style promotion opportunity

[Two tone]

Does that mean Northern have loosened their criteria beyond youth decoupling? You've now got ZPL clubs that may not have met the same club/administrative/facilities criteria as the NPL clubs but are two good seasons on the pitch away from being in NPL.

Welcome to Hexham

[onlooker]

Minor premiers are first past the post
Major Premiers win the post season series.
Don't worry, just playing devil's advocate. ;)
Incorrect, it was changed a few years ago to Premiers and Garndfinal winners. 😁

[GO AWAY]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but senior competition should not be required to have youth teams (obviously they want them, as it helps fund the senior teams) but for those that can't field them (for whatever reason), they should not be required to have them as a condition of their licences

Decoupling hopefully helps with that, and certainly wouldn't want a great senior team to suffer for a "club championship" style promotion opportunity

Talking too much sense ?.. stop it

[Hunter403]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but senior competition should not be required to have youth teams (obviously they want them, as it helps fund the senior teams) but for those that can't field them (for whatever reason), they should not be required to have them as a condition of their licences

Decoupling hopefully helps with that, and certainly wouldn't want a great senior team to suffer for a "club championship" style promotion opportunity

Interesting thoughts. Some NPL/NL1 clubs put a lot of time effort and money into their youth programmes. Others see youth as a necessary (required) inconvenience. No doubt the majority tap the youth as a source of funds, but those "rego" funds alone are not the main income that pays the senior teams. I think some would see it as a great opportunity to ditch youth (or move them back to community where the cost of having teams is far lower and they can still make money from the kids/families in other ways) if they could still remain an NPL/NL1 club. "Long term plans be damned, we will still buy the best players". If this came to pass, I think that the quality of football would decline over time.

I think that to ensure the longevity of improving football standards and to have an "elite" competition, premier youth must remain mandated for both the 2 upper tiers. If we let the second tier dump premier youth, over time those clubs will not have quality coming through and promotion/relegation will die as those in the second tier will never have the quality to challenge the top tier.

[Taffy]

Interesting thoughts. Some NPL/NL1 clubs put a lot of time effort and money into their youth programmes. Others see youth as a necessary (required) inconvenience. No doubt the majority tap the youth as a source of funds, but those "rego" funds alone are not the main income that pays the senior teams. I think some would see it as a great opportunity to ditch youth (or move them back to community where the cost of having teams is far lower and they can still make money from the kids/families in other ways) if they could still remain an NPL/NL1 club. "Long term plans be damned, we will still buy the best players". If this came to pass, I think that the quality of football would decline over time.

I think that to ensure the longevity of improving football standards and to have an "elite" competition, premier youth must remain mandated for both the 2 upper tiers. If we let the second tier dump premier youth, over time those clubs will not have quality coming through and promotion/relegation will die as those in the second tier will never have the quality to challenge the top tier.

This is the one actually talking sense.

You want to play in the top tier, make sure you're a top club with a full contingent of teams. A great senior team won't suffer on a club championship because the proposal for senior promotion is just based on 1st grade results. A great senior team may suffer because the club they are part of isn't a great club.

[WOW2.0]

Define a "great club", most of what I have seen a great club is just the one who managers to "poach" the best players
(The club we started SAP at, only 2 boys (from that u9s) made it to 13s NPL, 2.5 more who joined in u10s, one of whom left for two years after that before joining again for 13s...don't know about the other boys, but is that a great result? They have a great team though, an excellent team in fact, but if just 2 of the 26 from u9s went through to the next level, is that "?great?")

[Taffy]

Define a "great club", most of what I have seen a great club is just the one who managers to "poach" the best players
(The club we started SAP at, only 2 boys (from that u9s) made it to 13s NPL, 2.5 more who joined in u10s, one of whom left for two years after that before joining again for 13s...don't know about the other boys, but is that a great result? They have a great team though, an excellent team in fact, but if just 2 of the 26 from u9s went through to the next level, is that "?great?")

You used the term great, a great club though would include a full contingent of teams. I'm not talking about results of the youth teams.

[ForeverRed]

Back to the NPL, Valentine with a 90th minute winner over the Bears last night.

[WOW2.0]

You used the term great, a great club though would include a full contingent of teams. I'm not talking about results of the youth teams.

I did say great team, rather then great club :) that's why I think it should never be linked to club championship :)

[Taffy]

I did say great team, rather then great club :) that's why I think it should never be linked to club championship :)

Well good thing the first grade promotion/relegation proposal isn't linked to a club championship then.

[Devon Sangas]

Back to the NPL, Valentine with a 90th minute winner over the Bears last night.

Good result for Valentine.

What's everyone's predictions for the weekend?

Valentine 3 - 1 Lakes
Weston 2 - 0 NL
Rosebuds 1 - 2 Edgeworth
Lambton 1 - 1 Cooks Hill
Olympic 2 - 3 Maitland
Magic 1 - 2 Azzurri

[W8 WATCHER]

[QUOTE=Devon Sangas;267382]



Valentine 2 - 0 Lakes
Weston 1 - 1 NL
Rosebuds 1 - 3 Edgeworth
Lambton 3 - 1 Cooks Hill
Olympic 1 - 4 Maitland
Magic 1 - 3 Azzurri

[anfield]

Valentine failed to advance to next round of National Second Division. Not a great thing for local footballers wanting to advance themselves.

[BS detecor]

Valentine failed to advance to next round of National Second Division. Not a great thing for local footballers wanting to advance themselves.

At least they won?t be bankrupt after 1 season

[anfield]

At least they won?t be bankrupt after 1 season

I thought an overseas venture was funding the club's move.

[The Magician]

I thought an overseas venture was funding the club's move.

The Chinese takeaway at Stockton wasnt overseas enough.

[Alton]

Surely this is not a surprise to anyone

[Reds Forever]

Unsure what was more stupid. Valo applying in the first place or a business model that relied on overseas funding that was sourced by your first grade coach and TD.

[Aegon]

Unsure what was more stupid. Valo applying in the first place or a business model that relied on overseas funding that was sourced by your first grade coach and TD.

Because football clubs are never backed by overseas funding.......

[Reds Forever]

Because football clubs are never backed by overseas funding.......

Not reliant on your head coach. What happens if club wants to sack him if results go south. Oh wait, we can't as he brings us the money.

[ForeverRed]

Unsure what was more stupid. Valo applying in the first place or a business model that relied on overseas funding that was sourced by your first grade coach and TD.
Heaven forbid any club having ambition,

[Alton]

Heaven forbid any club having ambition,
Oh come on Red, you know they weren?t up for it, the Gypsies as you would say

[Devon Sangas]

Oh come on Red, you know they weren?t up for it, the Gypsies as you would say

Get your predictions in guys. Final games of the 1st round.

Weston 1 - 1 Cooks Hill
NL 2 - 2 Lakes
Olympic 1 - 2 Jaffas
Maitland 3 - 0 Adamstown
Valentine 2 - 1 Magic
Charlestown 2 - 1 Edgeworth

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Weston 2-1 Cooks Hill
New Lambton 3-1 Lakes
Olympic 2-2 Lambton
Maitland 5-0 Adamstown
Valentine 1-2 Broadmeadow
Charlestown 1-0 Edgeworth

[Devon Sangas]

Edgeworth lucky to get a point today up at Azzurii. Both teams looked like they were missing a player or two. Entertaining game nonetheless.

[The Hacker]

Edgeworth lucky to get a point today up at Azzurii. Both teams looked like they were missing a player or two. Entertaining game nonetheless.

Spot on Devon good day up at Azzurri. In Reggies Azzurri looked very strong. Not sure his name but the young centre back was very impressive. Clearly taking advantage of having 2 former A League centre backs at the club to learn off.
In first grade was an entertaining game without out Edgeworth looking like ever winning. Azzurri let them off the hook by butchering some chances. I do wonder if Rene went down injured where their goals would come from. If he didn?t score yesterday I wasn?t sure who would for them

[Mad with football]

What is going on at Adamstown? They appear to be going backwards unfortunately 19 goals conceded in the last 4 games !! Not good

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

What is going on at Adamstown? They appear to be going backwards unfortunately 19 goals conceded in the last 4 games !! Not good

Sad to see a club with such a rich history struggling as there are.

[TheCancer]

BHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA comment of the century

[Taffy]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8196042/new-female-friendly-changerooms-in-hamilton-south-grandstand-upgrade/

$3 million mainly funded by state government, it helps to have the state MPs son's playing for the club

[JustMe]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8196042/new-female-friendly-changerooms-in-hamilton-south-grandstand-upgrade/

$3 million mainly funded by state government, it helps to have the state MPs son's playing for the club

What a joke. Not the neppo, the need for this separate gender shyte. cubicles solves everything

[magician]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8196042/new-female-friendly-changerooms-in-hamilton-south-grandstand-upgrade/

$3 million mainly funded by state government, it helps to have the state MPs son's playing for the club

Give it a rest. On every forum all you do is whinge.

[Taffy]

Give it a rest. On every forum all you do is whinge.

Rubbish.

[Bremsstrahlung]

What a joke. Not the neppo, the need for this separate gender shyte. cubicles solves everything

F**k privacy, dignity and everyone’s right to it.

Sincerely, anonymous

[Bremsstrahlung]

In all seriousness, good for them.
Improving facilities in the region is great news, regardless of who the recipients are.
More of it, more spread of it around. There will be some arguments that you could use that money across multiple grounds to make improvements, but as long as Newcastle region is getting some funding from the governments, hard to complain.

Assuming by the pictures, there’s a clubhouse/corporate type area at the top, tunnel in the middle feeding to change rooms and a step area to seating area ratio of 1:1.

Somewhat serious question, how accessible is this facility? I had heard a number of years ago councils knocking back facility upgrades etc because they were not considered accessible to wheelchairs. Have councils changed this approach?

[2ndclasscitizen]

Somewhat serious question, how accessible is this facility? I had heard a number of years ago councils knocking back facility upgrades etc because they were not considered accessible to wheelchairs. Have councils changed this approach?

Article notes the following:


Amenities for people with a disability will be included on both levels of the building, which will be connected by a lift. The top floor will also have a community space and designated accessibility area for spectating.

Sounds like it will be similar to No.2.

[Lofty]

In all seriousness, good for them.
Improving facilities in the region is great news, regardless of who the recipients are.
More of it, more spread of it around. There will be some arguments that you could use that money across multiple grounds to make improvements, but as long as Newcastle region is getting some funding from the governments, hard to complain.

Assuming by the pictures, there’s a clubhouse/corporate type area at the top, tunnel in the middle feeding to change rooms and a step area to seating area ratio of 1:1.

Somewhat serious question, how accessible is this facility? I had heard a number of years ago councils knocking back facility upgrades etc because they were not considered accessible to wheelchairs. Have councils changed this approach?

There's a lift and a designated accessible area upstairs for viewing according to the article.

[WOW2.0]

Sounds great...let's hope some more of our grounds get some affection

[sapdad]

Sounds great...let's hope some more of our grounds get some affection

The work being done at Myer park is also looking good.

[Thomas477]

More important did anyone see Maj’s embarrassing behaviour vs Edgeworth and that he could be facing a 9 week stint?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Article notes the following:



Sounds like it will be similar to No.2.


There's a lift and a designated accessible area upstairs for viewing according to the article.

Thanks for that! Didn’t have access to the articles

[Taffy]

More important did anyone see Maj?s embarrassing behaviour vs Edgeworth and that he could be facing a 9 week stint?

What did he do?

[Undertaker]

Had a goal disallowed for offside, abused the linesman then started walking towards the sheds and kept having a go at the centre referee until two yellows were shown. The way he was walking to the sideline gave it away that he wasn?t going to stop until he got sent off. Throw the book at him, if he was gonna walk off and didn?t wanna play anymore end his season and set an example out of him.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Thanks for that! Didn’t have access to the articles

https://www.printfriendly.com/ is your friend

[WOW2.0]

Whose Maj, that you're referring to (innocently curious)

[Bremsstrahlung]

https://www.printfriendly.com/ is your friend

Sir. You are great.

[Devon Sangas]

Ok guys we're halfway through the season.

Top 5 predictions in no particular order:

Weston
Azzurri
Jaffas
Maitland
Edgeworth

Weekend predictions:

Weston 2 - 2 Magic
Maitland 3 - 1 Jaffas
Edgeworth 1 - 1 Olympic
Lakes 1 - 2 Cooks Hill
Valentine 2 - 0 Adamstown
Azzurri 4 - 1 NL

[WOW2.0]

After going to watch the Australia Cup fixture last night, Weston will need quite the turnaround to get that 2-2 draw...they were 2nd best everywhere last night

[Hurricane]

After going to watch the Australia Cup fixture last night, Weston will need quite the turnaround to get that 2-2 draw...they were 2nd best everywhere last night
What was the score

[Lofty]

Magic 5-1 Weston

[WOW2.0]

They were very exposed in the fast counter attack, and the tactic I've seen them use...long out to their fast wingers just wasn't coming off at all, and they were barely a threat...Magic was far and away too good for them last night...steam rolled them

(Having said that, I know some teams don't take the Australia Cup overly serious, and they may have cycled players from reserves so they can focus on the league...so who knows)

[2285]

Adamstown 3 Valo 2
Maitland 3 Jaffas 0
Edgy 1 Olympic 1

[The Hacker]

Sad to see a club with such a rich history struggling as there are.

If they are struggling what?s going on a Valo. Could be the worst ground ever to watch a game at. I was lucky to be in the same post code as the field from the stand. Adamstown to good today. The 3rd goal was a belting free kick. It was good to see Adamstown turn around some poor performances lately. You can see what they are trying to do with youth and although it doesn?t work every week. I has been better this year than last year and they are benefiting from backing their youth over the past years

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions:

Magic 2 - 1 Edgy
Maitland 3 - 0 NL
Valentine 1 - 3 Azzurri
Weston 2 - 2 Jaffas
Olympic 1 - 1 Lakes
Adamstown 1 - 2 Cooks Hill

[magician]

Magic edgy 2-2
Maitland 4-1
Charlestown 2-1
Weston 2-1
Olympic 3-0
Buds cookshill 1-1

[MCG_1997]

Magic 3-2 Edgy
Maitland 4-2 NL
Valentine 1-4 Azzurri
Weston 3-1 Jaffers
Olympic 5-1 Lakes
Adamstown 2-2 Cooks Hill

[Fairgo]

To the uneducated Weston supporter at the game today thinking it is Ok to call a player from Jaffas that has a European surname a ?WOG?, pull your head in. It is offensive and not called for. Nothing wrong with heckling but that crosses the line.

[magician]

To the uneducated Weston supporter at the game today thinking it is Ok to call a player from Jaffas that has a European surname a ?WOG?, pull your head in. It is offensive and not called for. Nothing wrong with heckling but that crosses the line.

And you expect anything different from that lot

[ForeverRed]

To the uneducated Weston supporter at the game today thinking it is Ok to call a player from Jaffas that has a European surname a ?WOG?, pull your head in. It is offensive and not called for. Nothing wrong with heckling but that crosses the line.
Hopefully it gets reported and the so called fan is outed for good

[W8 WATCHER]

Hopefully it gets reported and the so called fan is outed for good

lol
super smart mob these guys are!
considering most of their new superstar players, and coaches are ethnic of some sort.

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions

Magic 2 - 2 Olympic
Azzurri 2 - 1 Maitland
Edgey 1 - 1 Weston
Valo 3 - 2 Cooks Hill
NL 1 - 3 Jaffas
Lakes 2 - 3 Rosebuds

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Magic 2-1 Olympic
Azzurri 1-2 Maitland
Edgy 2-0 Weston
Valentine 3-1 Cooks Hill
New Lambton 0-4 Lambton
Lakes 1-3 Adamstown

[MCG_1997]

Magic 3-2 Olympic
Azzurri 2-1 Maitland
Edgy 2-3 Weston
Valentine 3-2 Cooks Hill
New Lambton 1-4 Lambton
Lakes 2-4 Adamstown

[Mad with football]

Have heard Dave Rosewarne is not continuing as Adamstown coach next season -been a real tough few years for club and coach, who will be the main contenders for the role? ( not one I?d say many coaches would want with promotion & relegation now a real threat??

[BBscone]

Have heard Dave Rosewarne is not continuing as Adamstown coach next season -been a real tough few years for club and coach, who will be the main contenders for the role? ( not one I?d say many coaches would want with promotion & relegation now a real threat??Decent footprint created from scratch. If there is an increased but still modest budget survival is probably something that a good football program can create with a view to staying up. Reality is they have 4 or 5 clubs to be better than. The top 5 or 6 just spend more to get more.

[2285]

Todays Results
Lakes 3 Adamstown 1
Weston2 Edgy 1
Maitland 2 Azzurri 1
Magic 3 Olympic 1

[ForeverRed]

Todays Results
Lakes 3 Adamstown 1
Weston2 Edgy 1
Maitland 2 Azzurri 1
Magic 3 Olympic 1
Maitland pen was half a metre outside the box 🤷*♂️

[2285]

Thoughts on Azzurri goal while Keeper setting up wall? No whistle blown…

[2285]

Maitland pen was half a metre outside the box ��*♂️

Thoughts on Azzurri goal while Keeper setting up wall? No whistle blown…

[Devon Sangas]

Thoughts on Azzurri goal while Keeper setting up wall? No whistle blown?

Yeah, it seemed the ref was ready to go for the Azzurri goal. Hard to hear exactly what was said on bartv. The Maitland penalty decision looked to be clear outside of the box. Entertaining game nonetheless. I think these two teams will play in the Grand Final.

[ForeverRed]

Thoughts on Azzurri goal while Keeper setting up wall? No whistle blown…
The ref asked the player standing on the ball to move several times, when he moved he waved play on, fair goal I?d say but I can understand the resent from Maitland

[2285]

The ref asked the player standing on the ball to move several times, when he moved he waved play on, fair goal I?d say but I can understand the resent from Maitland

End of the day I’ll be diplomatic and respect your view
it’s only r14… was a very competitive game played by 2 decent sides .. ladder has turned over last month and becoming very interesting…Azzurri 1 game in hand on Weston fighting for top 2 spot ,shaping as a very competitive comp

[ForeverRed]

End of the day I’ll be diplomatic and respect your view
it’s only r14… was a very competitive game played by 2 decent sides .. ladder has turned over last month and becoming very interesting…Azzurri 1 game in hand on Weston fighting for top 2 spot ,shaping as a very competitive comp
Azzurri have lakes, Adamstown and Cooks hill next 3 games, could decide a lot if they win all 3

[WOW2.0]

I feel Charlestown is missing some real goal scoring punch...Weston has been a big surprise

[Lofty]

Surprising to hear nothing come of the Olympic head coach calling the new Magic keeper a "f*****g terrorist" at the end of the game on the weekend. Happened in front of lots of people as they are walking off the pitch. Picked up clear as day on the BarTV footage.
Poor behaviour and horrible choice of words from someone who well and truly should know better than that.
Total disrespect to an international player in our league that barely speaks a word of English.

1:54:20 for those of you playing at home. A shame the graphic cuts out the camera footage only a few seconds before..
https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230604-nnsw-nplm-round-14-broadmeadow-magic-v-newcastle-olympic/

[ForeverRed]

Surprising to hear nothing come of the Olympic head coach calling the new Magic keeper a "f*****g terrorist" at the end of the game on the weekend. Happened in front of lots of people as they are walking off the pitch. Picked up clear as day on the BarTV footage.
Poor behaviour and horrible choice of words from someone who well and truly should know better than that.
Total disrespect to an international player in our league that barely speaks a word of English.

1:54:20 for those of you playing at home. A shame the graphic cuts out the camera footage only a few seconds before..
https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230604-nnsw-nplm-round-14-broadmeadow-magic-v-newcastle-olympic/

Probably just a heat of the moment thing, that happens in sport, I would worry to much about it, don?t go making mountains out of mole hills

[Taffy]

Typical behaviour from Magic though

[Lofty]

Probably just a heat of the moment thing, that happens in sport, I would worry to much about it, don?t go making mountains out of mole hills

Normal, acceptable behaviour to call a dark skinned kid a terrorist? Dinosaur behaviour.

[ha'way the lads]

Probably just a heat of the moment thing, that happens in sport, I would worry to much about it, don?t go making mountains out of mole hills

You can't be serious. The effing wannabe part, yeah ok maybe that's heat of the moment stuff - but surely you can see that the terrorist line is bang out of order??

[Lofty]

You can't be serious. The effing wannabe part, yeah ok maybe that's heat of the moment stuff - but surely you can see that the terrorist line is bang out of order??

Absolutely is, especially when there's nothing coming from the other end. Anyone that can try to defend that sort of behaviour has rocks in their head.

[magician]

Absolutely is, especially when there's nothing coming from the other end. Anyone that can try to defend that sort of behaviour has rocks in their head.

Carrying on about this but can?t reply in the ZPL thread about a homophobic comment from a suns player

[Lofty]

Carrying on about this but can?t reply in the ZPL thread about a homophobic comment from a suns player

Was dealt with on the day by officials and then by the club. But yeah, go ahead and compare something firstly that you don't know about which is hearsay about an 18 year old third grader in third division with this about the head coach of an NPL club. Whatever makes you sleep well at night champ. Carry on condoning this behaviour as you were.

[magician]

Was dealt with on the day by officials and then by the club. But yeah, go ahead and compare something firstly that you don't know about which is hearsay about an 18 year old third grader in third division with this about the head coach of an NPL club. Whatever makes you sleep well at night champ. Carry on condoning this behaviour as you were.
Not condoning anything. Can?t just pick and choose. Does it really matter what grade it come from dopey.

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Probably just a heat of the moment thing, that happens in sport, I would worry to much about it, don?t go making mountains out of mole hills


Heat of the moment? Wake up to yourself.

With the amount of people football brings together from diverse backgrounds, this sort of mentality has to be outed.

Ex jets player with peanuts for brains.

My guess is the spineless mob from Northern won?t take action.

[The Hacker]

Not condoning anything. Can?t just pick and choose. Does it really matter what grade it come from dopey.

He said it was dealt with on the day by officials and the club afterwards. Would be interesting what it was as a punishment but at least it was not ignored which seems to be what Magic are doing here.

[Lofty]

He said it was dealt with on the day by officials and the club afterwards. Would be interesting what it was as a punishment but at least it was not ignored which seems to be what Magic are doing here.

I feel like you might be a bit confused with the fact someone brought up Zone league stuff.

This incident is the Olympic coach calling a Magic player a "f'ing terrorist". Don't see how that's Magic doing anything wrong. And this case has not been dealt with by anyone.

[The Hacker]

He said it was dealt with on the day by officials and the club afterwards. Would be interesting what it was as a punishment but at least it was not ignored which seems to be what Magic are doing here.

Sorry I meant Olympic not Magic.

[northern_swan]

To throw a few possibilities out there:

- is it definite that nothing has come of it? Iirc it took a while before the Maj incident at lakes to make it to the public domain. It could be possible that there’s things going on behind the scenes that Joe Public isn’t aware of

- is it possible that Magic have decided not to pursue the matter? In the absence of a complaint, there may not be any case for JG to answer.

- has there been a conciliatory conversation that has gone on that has resolved the matter to the satisfaction of the individual that was “allegedly” vilified?

In all 3 of the above scenarios, I’m not trying to defend the alleged actions. I’m merely stating that things may be in motion that are not in the public domain

[Hurricane]

Couldn't find an Australia Cup thread so I'll post here
Broadmeadow 5 Bangalow 1
Olympic 2 Alstonville 0
Maitland 6 Belswans 0
Edgeworth 3 Jaffas 1 after extra time
Round 7 drawn this week

[Thomas477]

Couldn't find an Australia Cup thread so I'll post here
Broadmeadow 5 Bangalow 1
Olympic 2 Alstonville 0
Maitland 6 Belswans 0
Edgeworth 3 Jaffas 1 after extra time
Round 7 drawn this week

Was it me, or did Olympic make 4 subs when they’re only allowed 3?

[Once played]

Was it me, or did Olympic make 4 subs when they?re only allowed 3?

5 subs allowed at a maximum of 3 stoppages

[Thomas477]

5 subs allowed at a maximum of 3 stoppages

But there was 4 stoppages…

[Once played]

But there was 4 stoppages?

Ok, your original post said 4 subs not 4 stoppages hence my reply regarding subs.

[Hurricane]

Surprising to hear nothing come of the Olympic head coach calling the new Magic keeper a "f*****g terrorist" at the end of the game on the weekend. Happened in front of lots of people as they are walking off the pitch. Picked up clear as day on the BarTV footage.
Poor behaviour and horrible choice of words from someone who well and truly should know better than that.
Total disrespect to an international player in our league that barely speaks a word of English.

1:54:20 for those of you playing at home. A shame the graphic cuts out the camera footage only a few seconds before..
https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230604-nnsw-nplm-round-14-broadmeadow-magic-v-newcastle-olympic/

The Herald today reports that Olympic have been given a show cause notice surrounding the terrorist comment

[Taffy]

But there was 4 stoppages…

As per The Herald today

"
NNSWF, who administer the region's preliminary rounds of the cup, confirmed on Tuesday that "match officials initially permitted Olympic to use an extra substitution window.

"This was noticed within 90 seconds, the player was removed from the field and cautioned. No further action will be taken."

[Bremsstrahlung]

As per The Herald today

"
NNSWF, who administer the region's preliminary rounds of the cup, confirmed on Tuesday that "match officials initially permitted Olympic to use an extra substitution window.

"This was noticed within 90 seconds, the player was removed from the field and cautioned. No further action will be taken."

The caution seems a bit rough….
Assuming it’s for entering field of play when he wasn’t supposed to?
Pretty sure the law phrasing makes mention of ‘without referees permission’. In this instance, it would seem he was given permission (incorrectly)….

[Jim]

The Herald today reports that Olympic have been given a show cause notice surrounding the terrorist comment

Listening to the dialogue there's heroes abusing and swearing before that occurred.

Of course some offended twat will find a cultural cringe then take a dive to win this immature spineless sh1tfest. Get a tissue

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions:

Olympic 2 - 2 Weston
Jaffas 2 - 1 Edgey
NL 3 - 1 Rosebuds
Cooks Hill 1 - 1 Magic
Valo 1 - 4 Maitland
Azzurri 4 - 1 Lakes

[MCG_1997]

Olympic 1 - 2 Weston
Jaffas 2 - 2 Edgey
NL 4 - 2 Rosebuds
Cooks Hill 1 - 3 Magic
Valo 2 - 3 Maitland
Azzurri 5 - 2 Lakes

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Olympic 1-3 Weston
Lambton 1-1 Edgeworth
New Lambton 4-1 Adamstown
Cooks Hill 0-5 Magic
Valentine 0-3 Maitland
Azzurri 4-0 Lakes

[Mad with football]

Has anybody heard rumours/news yet about the NPL 1st grade coaching ?merry- go round? as yet ? I?ve heard ( not good or from many sources) so take it as merely rumour -Bolchy to finish up and G Law ( god help them if it?s true !), & Tancj are in the frame for Magpies job?
Also heard current Buds assistant coach Mark Rooke possibly taking on 1st grade ? Any other ?news? out there

[2285]

Watched Weston play today… very strong … will be hard to beat for the title

[Taffy]

Has anybody heard rumours/news yet about the NPL 1st grade coaching ?merry- go round? as yet ? I?ve heard ( not good or from many sources) so take it as merely rumour -Bolchy to finish up and G Law ( god help them if it?s true !)

I heard this rumour last year

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions

Valentine 3 - 1 NL
Olympic 2 - 2 Cooks Hill
Adamstown 0 - 3 Azzurri
Weston 2 - 2 Maitland
Edgeworth 2 - 1 Lakes
Jaffas 2 - 1 Magic

[Oldjaffa]

How embarrassing for Olympic is the whole sorry Joel Griffiths story? And how much more embarrassing that they aren't cutting ties with him immediately. I'm sure someone will get on here and say there were other comments, heat of the moment, blah,blah,blah, but he is the head coach of an allegedly multicultural club and should have the self control to not get involved. But given that he got suspended the year before for abusing officials, maybe self control isn't his thing.

[fozphantom]

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230604-nnsw-nplm-round-14-broadmeadow-magic-v-newcastle-olympic/


From 1:54:22
No denying it.
No excuses but there's indiscernible stuff said beforehand.

[2285]

Has anybody heard rumours/news yet about the NPL 1st grade coaching ?merry- go round? as yet ? I?ve heard ( not good or from many sources) so take it as merely rumour -Bolchy to finish up and G Law ( god help them if it?s true !), & Tancj are in the frame for Magpies job?
Also heard current Buds assistant coach Mark Rooke possibly taking on 1st grade ? Any other ?news? out there

today's paper has Bolch re-signed with Maitland as well as Thompson and Crowley

[Devon Sangas]

The comp is heating up! Weekend predictions:

Edgeworth 2 - 0 NL
Weston 2 - 1 Valentine
Adamstown 2 - 2 Olympic
Cooks Hill 1 - 3 Azzurri
Jaffas 3 - 0 Lakes
Magic 2 - 2 Maitland

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Edgeworth 4-0 New Lambton
Weston 2-0 Valentine
Adamstown 0-3 Olympic
Cooks Hill 0-2 Azzurri
Jaffas 5-0 Lakes
Magic 1-2 Maitland

[Alton]

All results 4-0 ( obvious winners) except for a 1-0 win to Magic

[MCG_1997]

Edgeworth 4-2 New Lambton
Weston 3-1 Valentine
Adamstown 2-4 Olympic
Cooks Hill 1-3 Azzurri
Jaffas 6-1 Lakes
Magic 1-3 Maitland

[magician]

Edgy 4-0
Valo 2-1
Adamstown olympic 1-1
Azurri 2-1
Jaffas 5-0
Maitland magic 2-2

[Two tone]

All results 4-0 ( obvious winners) except for a 1-0 win to Magic

How on earth did you think CHU would win 4v0

[chook]

Possibly just a blood offering. Training rituals are strange at the least.

[Oldjaffa]

Lost; One dummy. Spat out in the away dressing room at Adamstown today.

[Allday]

Lost; One dummy. Spat out in the away dressing room at Adamstown today.

Between who?

[Oldjaffa]

When the Olympic GK was sent off, Bar TV picked up the sounds of him voicing his displeasure with the decision. Sounds like the dressing room copped the brunt of it. Not what Olympic need at the moment.

[fozphantom]

When the Olympic GK was sent off, Bar TV picked up the sounds of him voicing his displeasure with the decision. Sounds like the dressing room copped the brunt of it. Not what Olympic need at the moment.

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230701-nnsw-nplm-round-17-adamstown-rosebud-fc-v-newcastle-olympic/

The tirade starts 1:36:20
"**k, ***en ****, Every week! ***k! lofl

Whadda you expect?
Dumb arse free kick in dangerous delivery position,
dumb arser ranga does a blatant push in front of CB: and we all know CB loves a pen :wink:
dives the wrong way. Just bad luck there mate but feck me, get some anger management help dude!
Anyone from Buds wanna comment if their sheds were damaged?

[KITZ]

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230701-nnsw-nplm-round-17-adamstown-rosebud-fc-v-newcastle-olympic/

The tirade starts 1:36:20
"**k, ***en ****, Every week! ***k! lofl

Whadda you expect?
Dumb arse free kick in dangerous delivery position,
dumb arser ranga does a blatant push in front of CB: and we all know CB loves a pen :wink:
dives the wrong way. Just bad luck there mate but feck me, get some anger management help dude!
Anyone from Buds wanna comment if their sheds were damaged?

If you think he's the only one who's ever lost his shit after getting a red, then you haven't seen much football.

[AcaiBowl6%]

Rumour getting around that Jacob pepper is heading to Singleton strikers next year as he?s got a job in the mines? Has anyone heard?

[2ndclasscitizen]

Cooks Hill 2 - Edgeworth 1

[Two tone]

Cooks Hill 2 - Edgeworth 1
Another hangover for Retro Jet
Cookers keep this up and it may just kill Retro

[2ndclasscitizen]

Another hangover for Retro Jet
Cookers keep this up and it may just kill Retro

Everyone will be on the beers, 3 on the bounce is very exciting.

[fozphantom]

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/230701-nnsw-nplm-round-17-adamstown-rosebud-fc-v-newcastle-olympic/

The tirade starts 1:36:20
"**k, ***en ****, Every week! ***k! lofl

Whadda you expect?
Dumb arse free kick in dangerous delivery position,
dumb arser ranga does a blatant push in front of CB: and we all know CB loves a pen :wink:
dives the wrong way. Just bad luck there mate but feck me, get some anger management help dude!
Anyone from Buds wanna comment if their sheds were damaged?


If you think he's the only one who's ever lost his shit after getting a red, then you haven't seen much football.

I have seen alot of football and and I have seen the results of players losing their shit.
I still remember the report on nbn when those table cloth, nazi lovin turds from melb trashed the breakers shed.
So if you wanna condone said players bustin up opposition sheds cause 'they lose their shit'? KUTGW champ. You haven't been part of a club that's ever been on the receiving end of such behaviour.

[Blueboy]

Wow, the quality of the NPL this year is diabolical . This lakes team are absolute trash . 9-0 and counting. Won?t be paying money again to watch this rubbish. I won?t get started on the quality of half the other teams in this comp.

[Zico]

Wow, the quality of the NPL this year is diabolical . This lakes team are absolute trash . 9-0 and counting. Won?t be paying money again to watch this rubbish. I won?t get started on the quality of half the other teams in this comp.

Agree fully.
Go back to 8 teams & 3 rounds. This format is a joke & clubs like Lakes are taking the piss if they think they are NPL standard.
Promoting young players to the first team before they are even close to being ready & playing players that are Over 35?s quality is not how a top tier club should operate.
Poor facilities, poor players & poor history. Need I say anymore other than they need to go back a division and rebuild.

[Reds Forever]

Agree fully.
Go back to 8 teams & 3 rounds. This format is a joke & clubs like Lakes are taking the piss if they think they are NPL standard.
Promoting young players to the first team before they are even close to being ready & playing players that are Over 35?s quality is not how a top tier club should operate.
Poor facilities, poor players & poor history. Need I say anymore other than they need to go back a division and rebuild.

Watch them splash the cash next year to try and stay up.

[Zico]

Watch them splash the cash next year to try and stay up.
Then go broke the following season and start the rebuild with no money or players.
The other question is who out of the NL1 clubs are in a position to be sustainable once promoted?

[chook]

Cheque books already out for next season is almost old news. Next season will be a new extreme of golden eggs for the entitled.

[Zico]

Cheque books already out for next season is almost old news. Next season will be a new extreme of golden eggs for the entitled.
A comp full of over paid reserve graders. We have to many clubs in the top tier.

[onlooker]

The problem stems from lack of development in the youth system, to many clubs are focused on winning youth competitions over development and teaching kids to play good football. Wether it be clubs pushing for results or coaches not being able to check their egos at the door, teach the kids from the beginning how to play football and that should see more players capable of playing first grade and eventually a stronger competition.

[Bremsstrahlung]

State League/ NPL has had the dilemma of whether it serves as the regions premier competition or as a development league to get players to play first grade or higher.
The latter saw a shift to first grade and Youth/U20s that works in Sydney (largely due to the sheer volume of players that can afford to turn over a new roster each season) with an argument that “if you ain’t playing first grade by 20, you’re a lost cause, you ain’t making the a league” style logic.

Imo, first and foremost it needs to be the regions best competition.
If it does that, quality players will be developed. But the current system is almost “forcing” clubs to play younger players before they are ready, or at least making it a tempting proposal to save some player points.
Bring back 3 x teams per gameday. It provides avenues to keep players at clubs longer and build a club. There seems to be a really big turnover across most clubs. This loses club identity and devalues playing for the shirt/club and also supporters lose a connection to players.
A) Youth (18s), Reserves (U22 with a few overage players) and Firsts.
B) Reserves (no age requirements), Youth (U20s), First Grade.
Part of what makes playing this level so rewarding is feeling part of a club. Senior squads training together. Older heads showing younger guys what to do. Driving standards. If your youth coach gave you a challenge to play simple and no turnovers, you’d be like yeh, sure. But if a senior player got up you for a bad pass or giving it away too easily, man you’d be working to make amends.

I think the current JDL and Youth competition setups are a massive improvement to what was previously offered 10’years ago (nothing). Will see more kids exposed to a semi professional set up, earlier.

The aim should be to have the best competition. With that, development of players from 15 into first grade should happen.

I used to get annoyed at cheque book clubs. But they serve a purpose. Each club offers something different. And that’s the beauty of it. Scrap the points system, if clubs wanna spent 100k on players to win a 20k prize pool, Goodluck to them. With relegation and promotion, clubs need to have one eye on the next season and hopefully that will a shift to focus on developing instead of paying.

[Taffy]

Rumour getting around that Jacob pepper is heading to Singleton strikers next year as he?s got a job in the mines? Has anyone heard?

Why wouldn't he just go to Weston

[Zico]

State League/ NPL has had the dilemma of whether it serves as the regions premier competition or as a development league to get players to play first grade or higher.
The latter saw a shift to first grade and Youth/U20s that works in Sydney (largely due to the sheer volume of players that can afford to turn over a new roster each season) with an argument that ?if you ain?t playing first grade by 20, you?re a lost cause, you ain?t making the a league? style logic.

Imo, first and foremost it needs to be the regions best competition.
If it does that, quality players will be developed. But the current system is almost ?forcing? clubs to play younger players before they are ready, or at least making it a tempting proposal to save some player points.
Bring back 3 x teams per gameday. It provides avenues to keep players at clubs longer and build a club. There seems to be a really big turnover across most clubs. This loses club identity and devalues playing for the shirt/club and also supporters lose a connection to players.
A) Youth (18s), Reserves (U22 with a few overage players) and Firsts.
B) Reserves (no age requirements), Youth (U20s), First Grade.
Part of what makes playing this level so rewarding is feeling part of a club. Senior squads training together. Older heads showing younger guys what to do. Driving standards. If your youth coach gave you a challenge to play simple and no turnovers, you?d be like yeh, sure. But if a senior player got up you for a bad pass or giving it away too easily, man you?d be working to make amends.

I think the current JDL and Youth competition setups are a massive improvement to what was previously offered 10?years ago (nothing). Will see more kids exposed to a semi professional set up, earlier.

The aim should be to have the best competition. With that, development of players from 15 into first grade should happen.

I used to get annoyed at cheque book clubs. But they serve a purpose. Each club offers something different. And that?s the beauty of it. Scrap the points system, if clubs wanna spent 100k on players to win a 20k prize pool, Goodluck to them. With relegation and promotion, clubs need to have one eye on the next season and hopefully that will a shift to focus on developing instead of paying.
Excellent post.

[Taffy]

Bring back 3 x teams per gameday. It provides avenues to keep players at clubs longer and build a club. There seems to be a really big turnover across most clubs. This loses club identity and devalues playing for the shirt/club and also supporters lose a connection to players.

Has the turnover only just happened? Was there little turnover before this season started?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Has the turnover only just happened? Was there little turnover before this season started?

Oh no, it definitely hasn’t just started. It has, is and will always happen.
It’s just the reasons that change.

I have no problem with players leaving for more money, more game time, more opportunity, for mates, for coaches for location etc.

But I don’t like when good club men are turned away because they don’t fit into the point system.
I don’t mean having a whole team of has beens. But sometimes these fringe first graders or ex first graders that are transitioning back are some brilliant mentors and people to have around a club. If we can do anything to allow some of them to stay or even to give some younger players some time to transition to first grade, it surely will pay off.

[Taffy]

Oh no, it definitely hasn?t just started. It has, is and will always happen.
It?s just the reasons that change.

I have no problem with players leaving for more money, more game time, more opportunity, for mates, for coaches for location etc.

So if that's the case and the U18s have always been on senior days before why would putting them back in change it?



But I don?t like when good club men are turned away because they don?t fit into the point system.
I don?t mean having a whole team of has beens. But sometimes these fringe first graders or ex first graders that are transitioning back are some brilliant mentors and people to have around a club. If we can do anything to allow some of them to stay or even to give some younger players some time to transition to first grade, it surely will pay off.

Now that is a different story, a proper revamp of the points system does need to be looked at.

[Bremsstrahlung]

So if that's the case and the U18s have always been on senior days before why would putting them back in change it?




Now that is a different story, a proper revamp of the points system does need to be looked at.

Abolish the points system. It’s seemingly useless. Clubs circumvent it. Players lose out. Clubs lose out. It hasn’t really served a purpose. It was meant to even the playing field a little. I’d argue it has not. May as well just do away with it.
If clubs want to spend $$ let them. If they can sustain it, good on them. If not, too bad, so sad.

As for the youth. I’m not sure that affects retention directly. But if a club can formulate a connection between JDL, youth and NPL seniors they will flourish. If there’s a pathway, if there’s a place within clubs for players stuck between the youth/first grade jump.
Playing 18s on the same day as seniors could help getting the families acquainted with senior football, players can sit bench for reserves, youth can come sit bench for 18s and experience seniors.
I also just think a bit of a bigger gameday would be a bit better bang for back for spectators. Clubs can take gate from the parents too (lol).

Idk, all a matter of opinion really.
Just responding to comments that this is a poor representation of our local football scene.
Happy to hear other opinions.

[prawnhead]

Abolish the points system. It’s seemingly useless. Clubs circumvent it. Players lose out. Clubs lose out. It hasn’t really served a purpose. It was meant to even the playing field a little. I’d argue it has not. May as well just do away with it.
If clubs want to spend $$ let them. If they can sustain it, good on them. If not, too bad, so sad.

As for the youth. I’m not sure that affects retention directly. But if a club can formulate a connection between JDL, youth and NPL seniors they will flourish. If there’s a pathway, if there’s a place within clubs for players stuck between the youth/first grade jump.
Playing 18s on the same day as seniors could help getting the families acquainted with senior football, players can sit bench for reserves, youth can come sit bench for 18s and experience seniors.
I also just think a bit of a bigger gameday would be a bit better bang for back for spectators. Clubs can take gate from the parents too (lol).

Idk, all a matter of opinion really.
Just responding to comments that this is a poor representation of our local football scene.
Happy to hear other opinions.

You speak a lot of sense Brem.