2023/24 Newcastle Jets Men's Squad

[Mark325]

Was informed today Beka AKA B1 still is or has very recently been in Newcastle.

I know not everyone was big on him but personally I always had time for Beka and feel that in a two striker system opposite Stamma he'd do real well. He's signed to a k-league 1 side till 2025 but could be a loan situation.

[Jeterpool]

He's only played in two matches from 11 this season so is hardly getting a run

Would love Beka back. He's a winner.

[My2BobsWorth]

NPL standard, maybe signed with Magic

[Frodo]

NPL standard, maybe signed with Magic

Probably the best endorsement a player can get is 2Bob trashing them, so he's almost guaranteed to succeed now. Thanks for that buddy.


Just interesting to know if that means we move to a back 3 with 2 up top or push one out wide and require a fullback to cover them defensively.

[My2BobsWorth]

2 up top is what idiots say, we already have the best 9

[mic22]

I'm all for Beka as a 2nd striker.
But a possible scenario is: Beka comes back, Stamma goes overseas and we're back to square one with a striker who can't score.

[Mark325]

I'm all for Beka as a 2nd striker.
But a possible scenario is: Beka comes back, Stamma goes overseas and we're back to square one with a striker who can't score.

The headline I saw specified it was a second striker to partner with stamma so hopefully what you’ve outlined above doesn’t happen because losing Stamma would make a lot of people lose interest in this team for next season

[My2BobsWorth]

Strikers don't usually like sharing and caring, especially B1 who likes to be the main man, but as mic22 says, he has more misses than hits

[The Postman]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
23 Daniel Wilmering

Expiring 25/26
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
39 Thomas Aquilina

New Signings
## Aleks Susnjar

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos
19 Callum Timmins
22 Phillip Cancar
26 Archie Goodwin
37 Lachlan Bayliss

Confirmed Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Retired/NPL
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth

Expired
07 Trent Buhagiar
10 Reno Piscopo
15 Jason Berthomier
18 Daniel Stynes
20 Michael Weier
21 Noah James
25 Carl Jenkinson
29 Justin Vidic
66 Zac Bowling

[StannyCFCJET]

Expired
07 Trent Buhagiar Punt
10 Reno Piscopo Keep take a risk
15 Jason Berthomier Punt
18 Daniel Stynes Punt or Keep but only if dirt cheap
20 Michael Weier Punt
21 Noah James Punt
25 Carl Jenkinson Punt
29 Justin Vidic Keep Cheap
66 Zac Bowling Keep Cheap

[Frodo]

Expired
07 Trent Buhagiar Punt


It makes a lot more sense to keep Boogers than punt him. As frustrating as it is to see him miss 5 or 6 chances every single game, he consistently gets more chances than anyone else and doesn't even need a specific style of play to do so.

That said, it would be awesome if we can find someone better, I just have zero faith in us doing that when there's so many other things that need sorting at the same time.

We need 30 goals from the starting forwards, 5 from midfield, 5 from defence and 5 from the bench. That gives us 45, which is all you need to challenge for the league. Boogers solves one of those problems.

[StannyCFCJET]

It makes a lot more sense to keep Boogers than punt him. As frustrating as it is to see him miss 5 or 6 chances every single game, he consistently gets more chances than anyone else and doesn't even need a specific style of play to do so.

That said, it would be awesome if we can find someone better, I just have zero faith in us doing that when there's so many other things that need sorting at the same time.

We need 30 goals from the starting forwards, 5 from midfield, 5 from defence and 5 from the bench. That gives us 45, which is all you need to challenge for the league. Boogers solves one of those problems.

Swear I also saw he had signed elsewhere?

[plague]

If there isnt a player in our youth system who can't do what that filthy gypo does then we need to scrap the whole youth system and start again.

Of all the players leaving he's by far the easiest to replace.

[Frodo]

If there isnt a player in our youth system who can't do what that filthy gypo does then we need to scrap the whole youth system and start again.

Of all the players leaving he's by far the easiest to replace.

What youth system??

I thought the entire youth set up at the Jets was our first team scouting department finding a few academy prospects from other A League club's at the NPL finals series and offering them a starting gig they most likely don't have the talent to earn elsewhere.


I was sad when I saw the stats, but Boogers was our 3rd best goal scorer this season and 2nd best last year. We SHOULD be able to replace his output very easily if we were a remotely well run club, but we aren't so I figure why lose those goals if we can't replace them?

[plague]

Because he's a gypo like your mate pv4.

cheers,
plague.

[Couscous]

Terrible year.

[Alton]

Piss co po goooone

[Bon]

Piss co po goooone

Its a shame.. I'm a bit torn on this one.
Undoubtedly we were a better team with him on the pitch, I rate him and think that he is a great player but unfortunately the bloke is made from balsa wood..
His injury woes and time spent on the sidelines probably couldn't justify the price tag..

[380]

Its a shame.. I'm a bit torn on this one.
Undoubtedly we were a better team with him on the pitch, I rate him and think that he is a great player but unfortunately the bloke is made from balsa wood..
His injury woes and time spent on the sidelines probably couldn't justify the price tag..

This, Not much point having all the ability if your in the grandstand busted more often than not. Hope Victory don't fall behind in there health fund contributions, Theyll be needing it for this blokes bills. Plenty of ability not enough output.

[Mark325]

Archie is apparently off to Adelaide. Good for him if it works out, unless he dramatically changes as a player over night though I really don’t see Adelaide offering him much more then what we were able too considering his injury woes

We have also apparently extended Cancar’s contract, signed Susjnar and Weir played a game for I believe Hume City and is confirmed to be gone from the club

[The Postman]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
23 Daniel Wilmering
22 Phillip Cancar *TBC

Expiring 25/26
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
39 Thomas Aquilina

New Signings
## Aleks Susnjar

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos
19 Callum Timmins
37 Lachlan Bayliss

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Retired/NPL
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide *TBC

Expired
07 Trent Buhagiar
15 Jason Berthomier
18 Daniel Stynes
21 Noah James
25 Carl Jenkinson
29 Justin Vidic
66 Zac Bowling

[Jeterpool]

I will be incredibly disappointed to lose Archie, if the rumours of Adelaide are true. We should be looking to promote and retain our local talent and he knows where the goal is - he's got the best minutes per goal rate of any male in club history with more than 10 games (a goal every 130 minutes).

That said, he's made 47 appearances in all competition so far. He's started 6 of those and hasn't yet made the full 90 minutes. I felt towards the end of last season he really struggled to get himself into games when he came off the bench. Perhaps our formation doesn't best suit his attributes?

There's always been concerns around his body's durability and I just don't think Stanton rates him. Maybe a move is best for his career at this stage but I can't help but think if we don't sign this overseas striker OR Stama heads overseas then he's right back at the top of the pecking order again.

[380]

I will be incredibly disappointed to lose Archie, if the rumours of Adelaide are true. We should be looking to promote and retain our local talent and he knows where the goal is - he's got the best minutes per goal rate of any male in club history with more than 10 games (a goal every 130 minutes).

That said, he's made 47 appearances in all competition so far. He's started 6 of those and hasn't yet made the full 90 minutes. I felt towards the end of last season he really struggled to get himself into games when he came off the bench. Perhaps our formation doesn't best suit his attributes?

There's always been concerns around his body's durability and I just don't think Stanton rates him. Maybe a move is best for his career at this stage but I can't help but think if we don't sign this overseas striker OR Stama heads overseas then he's right back at the top of the pecking order again.

He's got ability that will never be in question. My concerns with Archie is and this is just my opinion he struggles to run out a full game. Throw in these apparent issues with his frame and durability i think stay or go is a muchness of a muchness.

Adelaide have a good record with youngsters so perhaps when its all said and done that is his best move.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Torn.

If Stanton doesn’t rate him and he thinks he will get better opportunity elsewhere, good on him.
He’s at the age when he needs to be playing. Can’t be happy with a cameo off the bench every week.

Would be great to keep some local talent around, and help garner some community support etc.
Rightly or wrongly, a lot of people seem excited to see him play, and always comment about “Archie”.


If he heads to Adelaide, goodluck to him. No hard feelings on this one.

[Mark325]

Lucas Mauragis, Brandon O’Neill, Trent Buhagiar, Reno Piscopo, Jason Berthomier, Daniel Stynes, Archie Goodwin, Michael Weier and Carl Jenkinson will depart the Club following the conclusion of their contracts

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
23 Daniel Wilmering
22 Phillip Cancar *TBC

Expiring 25/26
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
39 Thomas Aquilina

New Signings
## Aleks Susnjar

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos
19 Callum Timmins
37 Lachlan Bayliss

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Retired/NPL
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide *TBC

Expired
21 Noah James
29 Justin Vidic
66 Zac Bowling

[My2BobsWorth]

Archie refused the Jets offer
https://aleagues.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-nine-player-departures-archie-goodwin-lucas-mauragis-piscopo-jenkinson-details/

[Jetmaster]

Griff once said the best career move he made was to get away from Mum's home cooking and learn to grow up.

[380]

Griff once said the best career move he made was to get away from Mum's home cooking and learn to grow up.

Yep this. Learn how take care of all your own personal admin such as cooking, cleaning washing n ironing the list goes on.

[My2BobsWorth]

It's good for some although the other Goodwin had chronic homesickness and was much better at home with mum in Adelaide. If we have a team next year, I don't think the club should be carrying players like Archie and Piscopo anyway, plenty of young fit players just waiting for a chance

[anfield]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
23 Daniel Wilmering
22 Phillip Cancar *TBC

Expiring 25/26
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
39 Thomas Aquilina

New Signings
## Aleks Susnjar

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos
19 Callum Timmins
37 Lachlan Bayliss

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Retired/NPL
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide *TBC

Expired
07 Trent Buhagiar
15 Jason Berthomier
18 Daniel Stynes
21 Noah James
25 Carl Jenkinson
29 Justin Vidic
66 Zac Bowling

Michael weier back playing for Hume city tonight vs south melbourne. Surely another A League club will pick him up.

[StannyCFCJET]

Michael weier back playing for Hume city tonight vs south melbourne. Surely another A League club will pick him up.

If they want a minimal wage back-up sure. If they want a starting keeper not a chance.

[Frodo]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
23 Daniel Wilmering
22 Phillip Cancar *TBC

Expiring 25/26
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
39 Thomas Aquilina

New Signings
## Aleks Susnjar
## Eli Adams

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos
19 Callum Timmins
37 Lachlan Bayliss

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Retired/NPL
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide *TBC

Expired
21 Noah James
29 Justin Vidic
66 Zac Bowling

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We've added Eli Adams from Victory according to the Herald. 22 yr old Piscopo replacement I assume. Not too exciting a signing, but we need some numbers in attack and he's still got room to improve.

[Frodo]

Having between 12 and 15 players currently signed to the first team is both good and bad I guess. I guess we are doing a rebuild regardless of what happens with new owners.

[2285]

There shoul be plenty of players on the market next few weeks surely? With grants cut so drastically

Just thinking out loud

[Mark325]

We’ve signed Youth player Ben van Dorssen to a two year scholarship contract

Seems interest to sign on another centreback considering we have Natta, Grimaldi and Susjnar signed on and the rumour that we offered Cancar a new contract. Feels like potential overkill to me unless we plan on playing 3 at the back or some of these players are gonna be played in a secondary position (Natta at LB, it’s mentioned Dorssen has played CDM and RB in the past)

[StannyCFCJET]

We’ve signed Youth player Ben van Dorssen to a two year scholarship contract

Seems interest to sign on another centreback considering we have Natta, Grimaldi and Susjnar signed on and the rumour that we offered Cancar a new contract. Feels like potential overkill to me unless we plan on playing 3 at the back or some of these players are gonna be played in a secondary position (Natta at LB, it’s mentioned Dorssen has played CDM and RB in the past)

Gives us cover when Natta leaves to another a-league club or overseas

[Mark325]

Eli Adams has been signed on for 3 years. Has anyone seen him play and have any thoughts on if this is a good signing

[My2BobsWorth]

2 years too long

[Mark325]

Alex Nunes has signed a 2 year scholarship.

[Mark325]

We’ve re-signed Noah James for 2 years and apparently Stanton is planning on bringing in a striker and a number 10, he’s in talks with a Hungarian and a Brazilian

[The Postman]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
19 Callum Timmins
23 Daniel Wilmering

Expiring 25/26
21 Noah James
22 Phillip Cancar
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
37 Lachlan Bayliss
39 Thomas Aquilina
## Oscar Fryer

Expiring 26/27
## Eli Adams

New Signings TBC
## Aleks Susnjar

Scholarships
66 Zac Bowling - 24/25
## Ben van Dorssen - 25/26
## Alex Nunes - 25/26

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Jets Back Office
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide
29 Justin Vidic - Unknown

[ForeverRed]

Timmins re -signed today

[ForeverRed]

Cancar signs for 2 years

[Mark325]

Phillip Cancar has signed on for 2 years. Grozos and Bayliss are still expected to sign an extension soon so expect announcements on that front as well.

Happy to see the club moving fast to get all of this done and build some momentum for the fans with player signings, generally speaking I've been at worst okay with them.

[The Hacker]

Phillip Cancar has signed on for 2 years. Grozos and Bayliss are still expected to sign an extension soon so expect announcements on that front as well.

Happy to see the club moving fast to get all of this done and build some momentum for the fans with player signings, generally speaking I've been at worst okay with them.

I would of liked them to give Stynes another year

[Alton]

I would of liked them to give Stynes another year

Stynes takes up a spot that could go to a good local, he isn?t good enough

[The Hacker]

Stynes takes up a spot that could go to a good local, he isn?t good enough

Enlighten us. Who is a local that?s good enough

[Mark325]

Enlighten us. Who is a local that?s good enough

I get the vibe Nunes is a straight replacement positionally so now it comes down to seeing if he's good enough

[The Hacker]

I get the vibe Nunes is a straight replacement positionally so now it comes down to seeing if he's good enough

That?s why I said another year not multiple years. Nunes I agree is quality but not quite ready. Stynes could have contributed from day 1. Nunes is a quality project

[StannyCFCJET]

I would of liked them to give Stynes another year

Stynes has done nother that warrants another contract, Legit showed nothing in two years. Brief 1% sparks on rare occassions are not enough. New era so lets ditch those pathetic standards

[ForeverRed]

I?d be signing Bayliss, the kid can play, we saw glimpses of it last season

[Alton]

Enlighten us. Who is a local that?s good enough
Is there a third youth player? I watched them once weeks ago and saw an attacking midfielder a smallish kid, it could be Nunes, not sure.

[380]

I?d be signing Bayliss, the kid can play, we saw glimpses of it last season

Id put money on that happening, And no that tip didn't come from a bull.

[The Postman]

Oscar Fryer to be announced at 6pm

Midfielder from Sydney FC NPL/Youth, glad to see Stanton getting all of his rejected Sydney FC kids back together.

I would like to issue a challenge to the Jets - to sign a player not represented by Football House Plus

[Mark325]

Oscar Fryer to be announced at 6pm

Midfielder from Sydney FC NPL/Youth, glad to see Stanton getting all of his rejected Sydney FC kids back together.

I would like to issue a challenge to the Jets - to sign a player not represented by Football House Plus

We've signed this dude on for 2 years. Bit embarrassing to make a whole ass promo video for a signing this insignificant.

[My2BobsWorth]

I don't think Stanton gets the low budget youth thingy, too many years at smurftown

[plague]

We've signed this dude on for 2 years. Bit embarrassing to make a whole ass promo video for a signing this insignificant.

Jesus Christ.

At least we've found the person who celebrated the Mario Jardel signing.

[Mark325]

Jesus Christ.

At least we've found the person who celebrated the Mario Jardel signing.

Come on ya telling me a 30 second promo video for a sydney youth signing isn't a little much? I'm not saying we need to be signing superstars, and I'm all for building a little hype before a signing, but this felt like overkill

[Jardelsimage]

Jesus Christ.

At least we've found the person who celebrated the Mario Jardel signing.

Hey lay off Jardel will ya, best player we ever had.....

[ForeverRed]

Bayliss re signs, 2 year deal

[Mark325]

Bayliss re signs, 2 year deal

Pro this signing, lot of potential with Bayliss.

Feel like we're missing 3 big signings (CDM, CAM, Winger/Striker) to tie the rest of this team together. My only other hope would be to get rid of Ingham for a better RB but that feels more like wishful thinking then something realistic.

[anfield]

Oscar Fryer to be announced at 6pm

Midfielder from Sydney FC NPL/Youth, glad to see Stanton getting all of his rejected Sydney FC kids back together.

I would like to issue a challenge to the Jets - to sign a player not represented by Football House Plus

Sydney fc can't fit all their young players in, I'm happy that we are taking a few on. He gave Clayton Taylor an opportunity last year and he turned out to be a revelation.

Another former youth player Ben Gibson is killing it this year for Apia. Has scored 15 goals, can play anywhere across the front. Thought Stanton might have brought him across too.

[Jeterpool]

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
19 Callum Timmins
23 Daniel Wilmering

Expiring 25/26
21 Noah James
22 Phillip Cancar
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
37 Lachlan Bayliss
39 Thomas Aquilina
## Oscar Fryer

Expiring 26/27
## Eli Adams

New Signings TBC
## Aleks Susnjar

Scholarships
29 Justin Vidic - 24/25
66 Zac Bowling - 24/25
## Ben van Dorssen - 25/26
## Alex Nunes - 25/26

Offered Contracts
17 Kosta Grozos

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Jets Back Office
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide

I still have Kosta Grozos and Justin Vidic as the two players from last year's squad to have an announcement made about them. I see you have him down as a 24/25 scholarship, Postman. Where did you see that info? He only signed a 1 year scholarship last season.

Looks like we have 15 full-contract players announced.
3 scholarship players
0 Visa spots taken
0 on loan.

I note nothing has been said about Rory Jordan. Assume he has departed the club at the conclusion of his 2 year deal, having been on loan last season and playing the Australia cup match the year before.

[Mark325]

I still have Kosta Grozos and Justin Vidic as the two players from last year's squad to have an announcement made about them. I see you have him down as a 24/25 scholarship, Postman. Where did you see that info? He only signed a 1 year scholarship last season.

Looks like we have 15 full-contract players announced.
3 scholarship players
0 Visa spots taken
0 on loan.

I note nothing has been said about Rory Jordan. Assume he has departed the club at the conclusion of his 2 year deal, having been on loan last season and playing the Australia cup match the year before.

Is it only 3 scholarships allowed? If so, seems we'll either be promoting Vidic to full-time or removing him from the team. If thats the case, along with the long rumoured signing of Susjnar, we'll have 6 spots left.

Wiki says 'Following an impressive debut season, the club (APIA) re-signed Jordan who mutually terminated his contract with Newcastle Jets.'

[The Postman]

Thought I read somewhere Vidic was coming back! But I cannot find anything!

Will move him to the expired section, he hasn't been playing for the NPL team either - They are killing it btw, 9 points clear in League 2, with a goal diff of 51!

https://competitions.footballnsw.com.au/ladders?season=7MNGJn7mAz&ladder_type=regular&competition=8BdVZ5ldE5&league=08NOMyv1dZ&date_range=default&timezone=Australia%2FSydney

[Jeterpool]

And there's Grozos' contract - two more seasons.

[The Postman]

* Vidic spotted on a Jets FB video, assuming he is on a full contract now
* Eli Adams in the no7 Jersey
* I think Alex Nunes has no5 also

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
19 Callum Timmins
23 Daniel Wilmering

Expiring 25/26
17 Kosta Grozos
21 Noah James
22 Phillip Cancar
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
37 Lachlan Bayliss
39 Thomas Aquilina
## Oscar Fryer
## Aleks Susnjar

Expiring 26/27
07 Eli Adams

Signings TBC
29 Justin Vidic

Scholarships
66 Zac Bowling - 24/25
## Ben van Dorssen - 25/26
05 Alex Nunes - 25/26

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Jets Back Office
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide

[Jeterpool]

As of 26/6, probably the most up to date list until some new signings.

Assuming Susnjar becomes official, that's puts us at 17 players with the majority of last year's squad back.

I would be signing 2 CMs, 1 ST, 1 CAM and 2 Wide players.

Expiring 24/25
01 Ryan Scott
08 Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
11 Jacob Dowse
13 Clayton Taylor
14 Dane Ingham
19 Callum Timmins
23 Daniel Wilmering

Expiring 25/26
17 Kosta Grozos
21 Noah James
22 Phillip Cancar
27 Nathan Grimaldi
33 Mark Natta
37 Lachlan Bayliss
39 Thomas Aquilina
## Oscar Fryer

Expiring 26/27
## Eli Adams

New Signings TBC
## Aleks Susnjar

Scholarships
66 Zac Bowling - 24/25
## Ben van Dorssen - 25/26
## Alex Nunes - 25/26

Confirmed/Expected Outgoing Players
03 Jason Hoffman - Jets Back Office
05 Lucas Mauragis - Central Coast
06 Brandon O'Neill - Perth
07 Trent Buhagiar - Unknown
10 Reno Piscopo - Victory
15 Jason Berthomier - Unknown
18 Daniel Stynes - Unknown
20 Michael Weier - Hume City *TBC
25 Carl Jenkinson - Unknown
26 Archie Goodwin - Adelaide
29 Justin Vidic - Unknown

One of the challenges last year was the lack of experienced on-field leaders. Some old heads. We're yet to address any of that.

[Alton]

One of the challenges last year was the lack of experienced on-field leaders. Some old heads. We're yet to address any of that.
An overseas number 10 as good as Penha

[380]

An overseas number 10 as good as Penha

Stanton needs to confer with Papas on that , He reckoned he could find Penha types at the drop of a hat.

[The Postman]

Jets Admin keeping me on my toes - Susnjar to be offical at 4pm.

[Mark325]

Susjnar signed for 2 years, a little nervous with two years for this one considering he wasn't perfect at Perth, could turn into a Jurman 2.0 situation

[My2BobsWorth]

This is just a token youth team, where are the players that we hope to sell on for profit, other than Stamma, none. Where are the young African origin players that other teams have had success with. This is just a boring line up. Hope to be proven wrong

[Local Rules]

This is just a token youth team, where are the players that we hope to sell on for profit, other than Stamma, none. Where are the young African origin players that other teams have had success with. This is just a boring line up. Hope to be proven wrong

You are forgetting this is Newcastle where if you are not related to, the child of a player who made it to NPL level in the past or known to those in the youth set up you have no chance of getting to be recognised as having talent. The first people Newcastle Jets need to hire are scouts in the outer reaches of Northern NSW to identify those kids with potential and offer them something to entice them to the system rather than asking them to pay for the privelege. Then we may see these young marginalised players unveiled.

[The Postman]

This is just a token youth team, where are the players that we hope to sell on for profit, other than Stamma, none. Where are the young African origin players that other teams have had success with. This is just a boring line up. Hope to be proven wrong

To answer the slightly racist question you asked - Amos Okumu & Garang Arou are currently playing in the Jets 1st Grade (Youth Squad) in NPL3.

Bear in mind, Youth Captain and new Scholarship player Ben van Dorssen just got picked in a Young Socceroos Training Camp Squad, so there is a chance of a decent prospect there.

We have 18 under contract, so there is still room for hypothetically 5 more players. I would also think there would be a significant amount of money to spend. We need 3 quality, veteran players at least to be more competitive than last year.

[ForeverRed]

To answer the slightly racist question you asked - Amos Okumu & Garang Arou are currently playing in the Jets 1st Grade (Youth Squad) in NPL3.

Bear in mind, Youth Captain and new Scholarship player Ben van Dorssen just got picked in a Young Socceroos Training Camp Squad, so there is a chance of a decent prospect there.

We have 18 under contract, so there is still room for hypothetically 5 more players. I would also think there would be a significant amount of money to spend. We need 3 quality, veteran players at least to be more competitive than last year.
Can you point out the racist part, I?m confused that?s all

[Jeterpool]

Susjnar signed for 2 years, a little nervous with two years for this one considering he wasn't perfect at Perth, could turn into a Jurman 2.0 situation

I get the sentiment and concern...it depends on the idea of the role we have in mind for him. Didn't think he was great at LB against us.

Age-profile wise he's about to hit the apparent "sweet spot" which could be good....Jurman had lost his pace after coming to us and was a few years older.

At 28 he's one of the oldest in the squad (alongside Ryan Scott) so will more than likely need to take on a leadership role within the team.

Remember the difference having Boogaard made to organisation of the defense when he came in - we need the same from Susnjar. I think this puts pressure on Natta more than it does Cancar.

[380]

Can you point out the racist part, I?m confused that?s all

This

[My2BobsWorth]

Can you point out the racist part, I?m confused that?s all

This

[StannyCFCJET]

Jets posted a reel about the players saying who would win the Euros and Vidic was in the video

[Jeterpool]

I had it confirmed he's got a second year of his scholarship to go

[anfield]

I get the sentiment and concern...it depends on the idea of the role we have in mind for him. Didn't think he was great at LB against us.

Age-profile wise he's about to hit the apparent "sweet spot" which could be good....Jurman had lost his pace after coming to us and was a few years older.

At 28 he's one of the oldest in the squad (alongside Ryan Scott) so will more than likely need to take on a leadership role within the team.

Remember the difference having Boogaard made to organisation of the defense when he came in - we need the same from Susnjar. I think this puts pressure on Natta more than it does Cancar.
Susnjar has been signed to play left centre back, That is currently the position that was occupied by Natta.
For mine on paper it's a decent signing. Susnjar is experienced and likes to play the ball out from the back. As he has played recently as LB , which means he is quite mobile for a taller player.

Importantly Susnjar is very strong in the air, this will help defend and attack on set pieces.

Natta has played LB before and I think he was better there then LCB. I know some have previously disagreed but I remember him playing there 2 seasons ago and he was good.

As for previous posts about players with African background. If you watch SA and VIC NPLs there are plenty of talented players with African backgrounds. The big difference is that Melbourne and Adelaide have bigger African communities, hence they have more players pushing for A League contracts.

[Frodo]

This is just a token youth team, where are the players that we hope to sell on for profit, other than Stamma, none. Where are the young African origin players that other teams have had success with. This is just a boring line up. Hope to be proven wrong

Looking at list of highest transfer fees received for players and now many were of African descent.

Irankunda is at no 1.
Djite is at 10 back in 08/09 for ?1.2 million.
Mabil is no 17 back in 15/16 for ?870k.
Garang Kuol was 47th,
49th was Eli Babalj.


I don't think it was racist question, it was just a dumb one. If you meant to say dual internationals, that makes a lot more sense. 9 of the top 10 fees have been dual internationals, 15 of the top 20.

As for quantity, this season there were 3 fees and all had dual citizenship, last year it was 7 of 10, season before was 2 of 2, one before that was 2 of 2.

So, if we want to build players up to sell for profits there's some logic behind finding players will dual citizenship.

[My2BobsWorth]

You do realise it was an example, even you couldn't be that stupid

[Frodo]

You do realise it was an example, even you couldn't be that stupid

An example of a stupid question, indeed I did realise that, yes.

Thankfully tho, out of it I've added some wonderful information for people to digest. So all's well that ends well.

[My2BobsWorth]

You seem to have missed the full stop mate, in your rush to have a go at me again. It makes a huge difference to intelligent people.

[Alton]

Is Maverick allowing a marquee player?

[ForeverRed]

Another young Sydney player signed, it?s starting to wear thin

[Jeterpool]

I think all represented by the same agency too

[380]

Sky blue kiddies FC.

All BS aside if the smurfs rated this kid he would be remaining there given the number of players they have offloaded who play the middle of the park. This demonstrates Stanton's lack of a real network IMO and reeks of him just going back to the same old well.

[StannyCFCJET]

Sky blue kiddies FC.

All BS aside if the smurfs rated this kid he would be remaining there given the number of players they have offloaded who play the middle of the park. This demonstrates Stanton's lack of a real network IMO and reeks of him just going back to the same old well.

Or doing his old club a favour

[anfield]

Another young Sydney player signed, it?s starting to wear thin

Sydney FC have produced the best young players for the last 5 years. So I don't have a problem in the signing of him as a player.
Clayton Taylor never got a first team look in at Sydney and look at how well he went. I wouldn't judge this year's Sydney FC NSW NPL team as they are an extremely young team.

What does concern me about the signing is the fact he is on loan. I think part of the ownership model is getting young players to sell on, unless he signs on with the jets at seasons end we would have been better to get a free agent.

[Macca]

Sydney FC have produced the best young players for the last 5 years. So I don't have a problem in the signing of him as a player.
Clayton Taylor never got a first team look in at Sydney and look at how well he went. I wouldn't judge this year's Sydney FC NSW NPL team as they are an extremely young team.

What does concern me about the signing is the fact he is on loan. I think part of the ownership model is getting young players to sell on, unless he signs on with the jets at seasons end we would have been better to get a free agent.

Yeah I don't like the loan signing either. It only really works in our favour if he is a squaddie that doesn't get much game time and doesn't look like an improvement prospect, in which case why sign him.
If he has a killer season, then he goes back to Sydney where they can reap the benefit of his game time with us.
Having said that, contracts in the league are a joke anyway, so its possible that if he likes it here and it works for both parties then the loan will become permanent with a "mutual termination", and the loan is just a method to get him to us sooner.

[ForeverRed]

Joey champness to Auckland, I forgot about that kid who?s now 27, be playing in Turkey whilst pumping out the tunes

[The Postman]

Say hello to the past, present and future of the Jets.

Abdelelah Faisal
Alex Paulsen
Andrew Nabbout
Anthony C?ceres
Anthony Pantazopoulos
Apostolos Stamatelopoulos
Ben Collins
Brandon O'Neill
Brandon Wilson
Callum Talbot
Callum Timmins
Cammy Devlin
Ciaran Bramwell
Clayton Taylor
Connor Pain
Dane Ingham
Daniel Stynes
Dean Pelekanos
Gianni Stensness
Jack Clisby
Jai Ingham
James McGarry
Jaushua Sotirio
Joel Chianese
Jonathan Aspropotamitis
Jordan Swibel
Josh Risdon
Kealey Adamson
Kenny?Athiu
Kosta Grozos
Lachlan Bayliss
Luke Bodnar
Matthew Jurman
Matthew Scarcella
Matthew Sheridan
Mohamed Al-Taay
Nathan Grimaldi
Nathan Paull
Noah James
Oliver Jones
Oscar Fryer
Patrick Yazbek
Paulo Retre
Reno Piscopo
Storm Roux
Tass Mourdoukoutas
Tate Russell
Tim Payne
Tom Heward-Belle
Trent Buhagiar
Trent Sainsbury

[Jeterpool]

What is this list capturing?

[StannyCFCJET]

What is this list capturing?

Everyone with that management group Id say

[ForeverRed]

$530,000 towards the salary cap, it use to be $3.6 mil, the tv deal hasn?t changed, the APL still receives their money, where?s the cash gone

[plague]

The boss of Disney just brought a controlling share in a NWSL 'franchise' at a value of just under $300m.

These A-league owners are playing the long game. Whether they get there or not in the short term is subjective, but don't doubt their motives.

It will come, but there's much work to be done.

[My2BobsWorth]

$530,000 towards the salary cap, it use to be $3.6 mil, the tv deal hasn?t changed, the APL still receives their money, where?s the cash gone

Then they set the salary floor at 2.25 Million, instead of saying " look we fukt up big time, just spend what you can afford ". Dickheads

[Jeterpool]

Then they set the salary floor at 2.25 Million, instead of saying " look we fukt up big time, just spend what you can afford ". Dickheads

I read an article on CodeSports further explaining the decision and while at a business-level what you say makes sense (i.e. living within their means) it called out the Collective Bargaining Agreement has set out minimum spend on wages.

I'd then anticipate any move to reduce this would trigger action from the PFA.

Really is a mess.

[R Ramjet]

It will all be a mess for the next 2 seasons which is the remaining contract period with paramount.
Who knows what interest there will be for the tv rights new deal and you would imagine the money won't be great.

[My2BobsWorth]

I read an article on CodeSports further explaining the decision and while at a business-level what you say makes sense (i.e. living within their means) it called out the Collective Bargaining Agreement has set out minimum spend on wages.

I'd then anticipate any move to reduce this would trigger action from the PFA.

Really is a mess.

That could very well happen JP, the PFA would rather see the competition fold than tamper with the CBA. Most clubs will be around the 2 million anyway, but they shouldn't be dictating set amounts after the disgraceful performance of the last few years. Yep it's a mess

[Jeterpool]

That could very well happen JP, the PFA would rather see the competition fold than tamper with the CBA. Most clubs will be around the 2 million anyway, but they shouldn't be dictating set amounts after the disgraceful performance of the last few years. Yep it's a mess

Your reply got me thinking further and in a different way how snookered the owners are with the current arrangements (CBA and APL competition rules), as I understand them.

Owners have to:
- Have a minimum squad of 23 players.
- Spend a minimum percentage of the salary cap (90% if I recall)
- But the CBA would outline the minimum wages for full time players too.

Arguably, an owner could recruit a team of young players, like we have. They would have a lower wage compared to older players so you could reduce your spend that way....but you have to spend the floor of the cap. So how do you make up the difference...do you have a few older players that you possibly end up over paying just to meet that floor?

So, yeah I agree with you about the rules being dictated to owners and would say concessions are needed for them - specifically a minimum cap spend reduction. Owners are between a rock and a hard place.

But the owners also have a seat at the table of the APL - that's why to comp broke away so they would. So shouldn't they be able to change some of those comp rules?

Happy for others to flag if I have misunderstandings above.

[380]

Not all owners have equal say JP, This was Sage's concerns from the outset, He was justified in his gripe that a handful of clubs on the East Coast had all the say on critical decisions. We know which 4 clubs he was referring to. You only need look who was the previous chair and a few handpicked individuals from the 3 others.

Collectively individuals from those 4 clubs have stuffed the national competition once they were making decisions at the APL.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Buhagiar to Serie B - Brescia Calcio

[380]

Buhagiar to Serie B - Brescia Calcio

For his sake if they have goalposts 3 x the size of ours he may just put a few away.

[R Ramjet]

Bad news for a new young signing of ours. Oscar Fryer.
Did his Acl at training on Tuesday and will miss the season.
He is likely to be replaced in the squad by another signing.
The club is still looking to bring in 3 more players.
As per Newcastle Herald article.

[evolution]

We?ve signed Lachlan Rose, not sure for how long. Will play in Australia Cup game.

[My2BobsWorth]

We?ve signed Lachlan Rose, not sure for how long. Will play in Australia Cup game.

I don't mind him, still young, experienced, good goal strike rate, especially if you disregard his first year up from NPL

[Frodo]

Papers are saying Stamma is heading off overseas, most likely England. Hopefully we get a fee and it's used to help the team in some way and not just pay the owners back for their investment.

[StannyCFCJET]

Stama gone. I get it but how do we replace his goals

[plague]

The 'undisclosed fee' is really just this Rose kid.

Books are balanced.


No more questions.

[anfield]

Stama gone. I get it but how do we replace his goals

Risky move In my opinion, Championship is a tough competition if that's where he is heading. If he stayed at jets and scores goals , he keeps his socceroos spot. For his sake I hope he selects the right club.

Rose is a good addition, struggled for game time when Germain arrived.

[Frodo]

Risky move In my opinion, Championship is a tough competition if that's where he is heading. If he stayed at jets and scores goals , he keeps his socceroos spot. For his sake I hope he selects the right club.

Rose is a good addition, struggled for game time when Germain arrived.


He's gone to Motherwell, so he should hopefully have a better time in Scotland than the championship at least. Hopefully he kills it and keeps moving up the chain.

[My2BobsWorth]

260,000 pound transfer has been reported. Doesn't specify who the 260,000 goes to, Stamma or the Jets

[anfield]

260,000 pound transfer has been reported. Doesn't specify who the 260,000 goes to, Stamma or the Jets

The transfer fee goes to the club. He agrees his own personal terms with the club. Given it's a SPL club and not a championship club I think it's a good deal for all involved other then the jets supporters.

[The Dunster]

260,000 pound

Is Mario Jardel back ?

[380]

Club needs to get to work on a genuine 9 and 10.

With a proper 10 Stama could well and truly have had 20+ last season and now with him gone there is a real need to fill both.

[Jardelsimage]

Is Mario Jardel back ?

I'm back baby!!!

[My2BobsWorth]

New thread created, can mods please close this one, thanks

[furns]

Lock and switch
https://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?3368-2024-2025-Newcastle-Jets-mens-squad