General Horse Racing Thread

[leftrightout]

Alright lads. Best bet of the day... Go!

[leftrightout]

Sir Bacchus is mine, love that horse!

[q-money]

ladies, gentleman, plague, we are live for the september 10 edition of q-form, live from mum's basement...who's ready to get blown out in the last leg of the quaddie (me, because it's the only blow i'll get all week ayyyyyyyy)

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will probably stick to rosehill for the most part today as my melbourne form isn't great of late (either's my sydney form, for that matter)

Rosehill R1: hard to look past Longkissgoodnight at the weights, but I think i'll have a small play on Rosaleisha E/W, a better horse than form suggests. Baker hasn't got much running here today and I like her at 8s. Only small, lots of chances to get rolled here early.

Rosehill R2: Dubaiinstyle scratched this morning so changes the face of the race a bit. Waller with nearly half the runners as usual and Antonio Giuseppe is the best of them. Hard to go past him at 1800m. Dangers in Lanciato who has been terribly unlucky, and the 1800 is also great for him. the $5 about him is right and maybe worth a dabble if he gets over his frankly terrible luck.

Rosehill R3: Taking on Sir Bacchus here with Highly Geared (soz LRO). Jennings claiming 2 and very well weighted against the toppy - maybe just a bit too long at 1200 but where's the fun in backing a $2.30 pop. Better horses in this race but is a danger. Highly Geared E/W.

Rosehill R4: The old flaming trash fire of the TAB Highway Handicap. Here's my tip, keep your money in your wallet or go play the keno. Quatronic has the form, as with Moss My Name but if you can pick this well done.

Rosehill R5: I would much prefer Avdulla on Allergic to James McDonald, but he gets the ride here and should get the chocolates if he doesn't run into a classic Jmac rolling box with no way to get out. The magic man Moirera gets on Mccreery and if he can get over his stinking Australian form could be a shot. Not great confidence here but will good to watch I think. Have a stab at Rules Girl with the low weight the place if you feel like a thrillseeker.

Rosehill R6: Welcome to the lay fest of the century. Blokes piling into Yankee Rose and Omei Sword and I just can't do it. Both are serious horses but the fact she's mental makes me worry about the former, and Moirera worries me about the latter. Both can win this if everything goes to plan, but this is racing and things very rarely do. Have the blinkers really made that much difference to Yankee Rose? We'll see. Astern was just superb the other week in the Run to the Rose and winners of this have generally come through the race, but isn't drawn great. For me, and the one i'll be backing is Impending. Gun draw, the Gun on the back and Gun odds. Go well my friends.

R7: Tycoon Tara v Southern Legend here, the Ledge probably has the edge but we're in a good spot for Written Tycoon sired horses and I like her at the price. Should be a very nice look at both, Old North did me in on a few multis earlier this year but is a decent nag. The ledge to get it but i'll be backing TT.

R8: Old mate Pearls is brave as they come and I always find it hard to go against here. Won her last start and is up against Ravi who's main threat is being first up. Take Pearls here.

R9: A classic quaddie killing minefield here to finish the day. Invizabeel and ****ing Dinghu Mountain should get this but it will be a disaster whatever way you look at it. If you want it, you will have to go wide. Stay brave my legions.



Flemmo: Detective, Tashbeeh, Defcon, UTL, and my best down there is probably Royal Rapture. Pilote d'essai is too short

[plague]

detective might be getting some of my cash today.

[leftrightout]

Sir Bacchus is mine, love that horse!

I take that back!

[plague]

detective might be getting some of my cash today.

Bump.
Got 10's. Was $15 couple days ago.

[plague]

Sorry VJ I was excited so threw a couple on UTL.
Id say that's what killed it.

[q-money]

thank god for detective, saving grace for me

[q-money]

royal rapture saves my bacon in the get-out stakes, thanks mate

[q-money]

just catching up on the replays now as i was out for most of the day - how good was astern beating that dud barrier and blasting away at the end? eating the old humble pie.

and i'm back for another serve with moriera on mackintosh...was some ride - got it going, and kept on with it - well done mr magic, proved the doubters like myself wrong - not quite sure what bowman was up to on counterattack though...a tough watch if you were on it i'm sure

[q-money]

Dunster's mate Suavito off to broodmare duties today, we'll all remember the day you tipped us into her and everyone got the $17s, while I got dudded by Tashbeeh running the worst second you'll ever see behind some plonker in the first leg of what would have been a 428-1 multi :lol:

[The Dunster]

Dunster's mate Suavito off to broodmare duties today, we'll all remember the day you tipped us into her and everyone got the $17s, while I got dudded by Tashbeeh running the worst second you'll ever see behind some plonker in the first leg of what would have been a 428-1 multi :lol:

Was a great day indeed.

Being sent to Savabeel apparently which should produce a nice future staying type.

[skippy]

Had her in the punters club that day great work.

Early thoughts on the weekend?

[q-money]

cameron & newcastle gold cup throw up some interesting matchups on friday. maybe my mate decision time can shake off the funk he's in in the cameron

to saturday...

signposted has opened at 8.50 in R2, fmd

no rain forecast but randwick dries terribly so maybe it's soft enough for him, who knows. 3 wins on the soft but i'll lock a little in to get the day going

tango rain, awoke, clearly innocent all pop up from my book through the rest of the day.

you won't see a greater quaddie killer than R9...fmd, disgusting that they can do this to punters, lol

in the george main i'm with tosen stardom to do an unlikely number on winx if he can find a gun run, but coming back to good ground though will see winx get home even if bowman finds trouble like he did in the donny, she can win from anywhere.

still, gotta have a play with 13s for TS, quality horse.

[skippy]

Was meant to be going to the races on Friday but now have to work spewing.

Happy to take on Le Romain in race 6 with Sadlers Lake 3.5kgs lighter. Both also nommed for Saturday racing.

Savourex in R5, Sense of occasion in R7.

Lol the last at Randwick on Saturday is absolute poison if you are betting the quaddie have to take the field for when some ****ing donkey like Zoutenant rolls Torpenhow.

Love clearly innocent, but jeez its not a bad race Kaepernick has a ridiculous TOF when he feels like turning up and so does English, Japinosme is usually bombproof and Dothraki is always there abouts.

Hartnell into Winx could be an easy way to double your money.

Blackbookers for the weekend:
Fri R2 @ newy Niccolance
Morpethville R6: War thunder
Caulfield R2: Modern Wonder
Caulfield R7: Hucklebuck

[q-money]

abbreviated q-form today as i'm off to the pub shortly before hitting glorious randwick to see the mighty mare winx continue the #streak

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randwick R1: Signposted again. the 8.50 is silly money for a horse in such super form. track the danger but the runs are on the board. good horse.

randwick R4: Awoke. just really like this horse. foxplay at great trip though but if Awoke gets a look it's lights out. The Gun on board - let's do this thang

randwick R5: the q-man is going searching for #value here with storm the stars to finally get something worth running on. son of one of the legendary horses in the q-barn, Sea the Stars - time to do something here mate or it's one expensive pile of glue you will become

caulfield R2: vikingjet's mate Barthelona the clear one to beat for mine, could end up being anything this bloke. good enough to beat the dud barrier and maps to win.

other nonsense for the day: caulfield r9 - justice league; pakenham r3 - time to sail

[leftrightout]

R7 Randwick, my mate Clearly Innocent is back and ready to go. $9 as there will be some better prepared but has the class.

[skippy]

Wow stay on the BARTHELONA Train toot ****ing toot.

Almost makes up for the 4K I missed out on last night in the members draw while the rest of the punters club was at the pub and I was at work.

[q-money]

big Bart what a stud

[plague]

since when do they have group 1 barrier trials?

Winx ffs.

[The Dunster]

since when do they have group 1 barrier trials?

Winx ffs.

This horse looks untouchable in Australia over a mile.

It's a shame she's not a genuine stayer otherwise I'd like to see her go to Europe and take on the best in Europe in the Arc - or have a crack at a Japan Cup.

I could be wrong but I don't know if Winx could run 10 furlongs under European conditions let alone 12 furlongs.

[plague]

bit of an average day but Jameka paying $6.50 seemed like robbery. took it though.

getting pipped in the last by a $51 donkey hurt like buggery though.

racing is corrupt.

[plague]

This horse looks untouchable in Australia over a mile.

It's a shame she's not a genuine stayer otherwise I'd like to see her go to Europe and take on the best in Europe in the Arc - or have a crack at a Japan Cup.

I could be wrong but I don't know if Winx could run 10 furlongs under European conditions let alone 12 furlongs.

as much as id like a contest in the Cox Plate seeing Winx demolish them again would be spectacular.

[q-money]

anyone just catch Pakistan Star bombing the start and doing his round the field job again? woweeeeee

must have some of the best closing sectionals out there

Yesterday was alright, landed Barthelona, Guard of Honour, old mate Storm the Stars gave Hartnell the suck run and missed the 2nd unfortunately as well - Hartnell is some beast. Wet tracks just aren't STS's thing i think. Will keep an eye out going forward.

Just watching Winx in the flesh was an honour, beautiful horse - there is not much to her compared to some of the big boppers - but she is just so, so good. Bowman's ride was a thing of arrogant beauty

Japonisme is for the bin I think, has nothing left in the tank and I don't reckon we'll see too much of him in the near future

English did everything wrong - best thing about that race was Gary Moore giving it the absolute huge ones out on the course proper after Takedown landed it :rof:

Great day out at the track - have never seen so much titty in my life, great day :yap:

[skippy]

Had a surprisingly good weekend with pretty much everything bar English getting up and some donkeys yesterday.

Jameka looked good and gets in at the Caulfield Cup with 51kgs on her back surely a very good chance there.

Jesus Q, I should have taken up the offer and come down was definitely better than watching the rabble unfold in the GF.

[skippy]

Alright boys.

Nominations for the Rupert Clark Stakes are out.

Early thoughts?

1. BADAWIYA Mick Price
2. BON AURUM Ciaron Maher
3. CHARMED HARMONY John Sadler
4. COUNTERATTACK Chris Waller
5. FAST ’N’ ROCKING David & B Hayes & T Dabernig
6. JUNGLE EDGE Mick Bell
7. KEEN ARRAY David & B Hayes & T Dabernig
8. MR INDIVIDUAL Leon & Troy Corstens
9. RANGIPO Tony Pike
10. TELOPEA (GB) Darren Weir
11. THAMES COURT David Brideoake
12. TIVACI Michael Moroney
13. TYCOON TARA Peter & Paul Snowden
14. UNDER THE LOUVRE Robert Smerdon
15. VOODOO LAD Darren Weir
16. WELL SPRUNG Lyn Tolson & Leonie Proctor
17. XTRAVAGANT (NZ) Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards

[The Dunster]

Alright boys.

Nominations for the Rupert Clark Stakes are out.

Early thoughts?

1. BADAWIYA Mick Price
2. BON AURUM Ciaron Maher
3. CHARMED HARMONY John Sadler
4. COUNTERATTACK Chris Waller
5. FAST ’N’ ROCKING David & B Hayes & T Dabernig
6. JUNGLE EDGE Mick Bell
7. KEEN ARRAY David & B Hayes & T Dabernig
8. MR INDIVIDUAL Leon & Troy Corstens
9. RANGIPO Tony Pike
10. TELOPEA (GB) Darren Weir
11. THAMES COURT David Brideoake
12. TIVACI Michael Moroney
13. TYCOON TARA Peter & Paul Snowden
14. UNDER THE LOUVRE Robert Smerdon
15. VOODOO LAD Darren Weir
16. WELL SPRUNG Lyn Tolson & Leonie Proctor
17. XTRAVAGANT (NZ) Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards

Under the Louvre. Likes the track and distance, and is fitter now after two starts. The 58Kg will be the issue.

[q-money]

it's not a particularly strong G1, is it?

voodoo lad doesn't miss much, tycoon tara at 11 worth a dabble.

[PC14]

Yesterday was alright, landed Barthelona, Guard of Honour, old mate Storm the Stars gave Hartnell the suck run and missed the 2nd unfortunately as well - Hartnell is some beast.

Just watching Winx in the flesh was an honour, beautiful horse - there is not much to her compared to some of the big boppers - but she is just so, so good. Bowman's ride was a thing of arrogant beauty

Great day out at the track - have never seen so much titty in my life, great day :yap:

I was at the track also. Great day as you say and titty everywhere.

I had a shocking start but emptied my wallet on Foxplay. Was worried Bowman had shot it in the foot after the turn, but he is a prick and just shoved a horse out of his way to make the space.

Winx, Hartnell - no trouble. English - disappointing but sat wide most of the race.

Got the trifecta in the second last, but went off the winner for Federal. Could have been a little bit of a better pick up.

Through a couple on Torpenhow @@ $7.5 in the last. Thought it was a good thing coming down the straight. Not to be.

Shot off to the AFL and had a bit on Sydney 1-39. Cherry.

[skippy]

UTL scratched and heading to Sydney for the premiere stakes next week.

[q-money]

metropolitan barriers up

http://i.imgur.com/PkKqlaU.png

storm the stars drawing favourably with the gun on and up in trip. i reckon it's time.

[The Dunster]

Metropolitan is such a khunt of a race. The last quality galloper to win it was Ming Dynasty and the last exceptional horse to win it was Beau Vite.
The good horses seem to avoid it like the plague.

[plague]

The good horses seem to avoid it like the plague.

oi!

[skippy]

2 of my favs back on Friday night the buff vs chats.

[q-money]

omei sword spelled

something stinky here, another all-in in the bin ffs

classic waller

[skippy]

Lol probably didn't test positive to an in-house drug swab this morning just had a sore throat.

Skips BB came through on Wednesday with Mortons Fork and Niccolance getting the job done.

Quick tips for the big ones this weekend, Chataqua, yankee rose, Sir John Hawkwood and Fabrizio.

Some from the BB for the weekend: Sir Bacchus, capitalist, pistolier and the stunning miss vista.

[The Dunster]

Heavens Above in the Epsom Mile. Good chance and will be at juicy odds.

[pv4]

Got on Parker first goal scorer @ $21 early this week. Happy fxxxing days boiz

[plague]

Got on Parker first goal scorer @ $21 early this week. Happy fxxxing days boiz
Great bet son.
I'm on the game score under.
Looking good ATM.

[The Dunster]

Heavens Above in the Epsom Mile. Good chance and will be at juicy odds.

oh well. Looks like it's cupa soups for a few weeks.

[leftrightout]

Heavens Above in the Epsom Mile. Good chance and will be at juicy odds.
Was a great run by Hauraki, timed to perfection. Poor old Dibayi. The Mariners of horse racing, loves coming 2nd!

[skippy]

Was a great run by Hauraki, timed to perfection. Poor old Dibayi. The Mariners of horse racing, loves coming 2nd!

Huge run, not sure what the cheese eating surrender monkey jockey was doing on the front runner ffs.

Hartnell and extreme choice woweee highlights of the weekend.

[q-money]

since when do they have group 1 barrier trials?

Winx ffs.
this weekend again :rof:

how stupid of trainers to forgo the cash? Guaranteed payment even if you get whooped by the best horse in the country

[skippy]

this weekend again :rof:

how stupid of trainers to forgo the cash? Guaranteed payment even if you get whooped by the best horse in the country

27k for running 4th, 12k entry fee easy money.

Hartnell vs Winx confirmed in the cox plate, mouth watering stuff.

[q-money]

what do I have to do to see Tosen Stardom actually run ffs

Have been killed in all ins again, how much dope do they have this bloke on

Got 29 for miss rose de Lago in the toorak as well, let's see how many more deductions I cop

[The Dunster]

27k for running 4th, 12k entry fee easy money.

Hartnell vs Winx confirmed in the cox plate, mouth watering stuff.

I hope that pile of Shit Palentino doesn't decide to have a good day in the cox plate. I could see that thing doing a Dandy Andy on Winx.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPSLuR0Hwc

[q-money]

sup brethren

i just landed back in the country after a couple of weeks on the japanese circuit and am currently stuck in a transit lounge in cairns ffs. fuming, but a decent excuse to get stuck into the form so i can pay the credit card off after the damage that the missus has done to it, arf!

anyway here's the q-tips $et for today at randwick and caulfield ooooft (all care and no responsibility taken)

Randwick R3: Signposted - not just a mudlark, his form seems to be improving and only ran into Fabrizio last start that got him into strife. $5.50 is great money for him, snap it up early

Caulfield R4: Chetwood - godolphin runner that keeps doing great work. Won the Cameron Handicap and beat Le Romain who is no slouch. one

Caulfield R5: Going with Ameristralia here, Dunn beat Miss Vista who got a dud ride last time out but the mare is very decent and for mine better value than Sheidel in this. Jmac on Sheidel very tidy though. Back both if you feel like it.

Caulfield R6: if you're not having a stab on He or She at 34s for a laugh i dunno what you're doing. disasters happen (Zenyatta, anyone) and this is one of those ones that has something like that written all over it. A wiser man than me has said suggested an exacta with Winx and He or She as well, as BHB might just be in it for a bit of fitness and get eased down rather than going head to head with the great mare.

Caulfield R7: Running with Global Glamour here, has been absolutely crunched in from double figures to slight second favourite - Tim Clark gave her a peach the other week to win the Flight Stakes and should be every chance here. Foxplay has the edge on her in H2H battles but I think GG turns the tables on her today.

Caulfield R8: Tons of chances here with some serious horse-meat on display. Impending, Divine Prophet and probably half the field have genuine claims - but I'm running with Evacuation. Distance is right and can be a genuine contender if he can hold off the aforementioned two by getting at them early and nullfying their closing sections. easier said than done though...right

Caulfield R9: fuming Tosen Stardom is scratched again, have been frothing to see him since the Dato Tan Chin Nam but hasn't come back from his float injury (lol). He's Our Rokki is great, and should win this - but get some bickies on Miss Rose De Lago e/w. Loves Caulfield and gets Katelyn Mallyon back on today who will give her the front running position she needs. Hopefully she can boot her home and run them off their feet on the good track. Boost your odds or do whatever you can to get on, should be a belter.

Caulfield R10: Japonisme clearly cooked, being scratched this morning. Off to the farm :(. Again Flamberge should bruise them up as hard as he can on the speed and hope for the best. Runs into Star Turn who is good everywhere but too short for me. Flamberge e/w is a nice way to end the day (as opposed to the last at Randwick which is a nailed on quaddie death march)

good luck my G's

[The Dunster]

Another Winx win. The way things are going all the action will be in the Group 2 and Group 3 races as everyone continues to avoid Winx.

Absolutely no way will Hartnell give Winx any trouble in the Cox Plate. Hartnell is a good galloper but he's not a champion by any stretch of the imagination. His last three wins he's essentially beaten horses that are nowhere near top class.

Only a crash aka Naturalism's Cox plate or a shit ride aka Shane Dye on Veandercross at Caufield in 1992 will stop Winx going back to back in the Cox plate.

[plague]

geez louise id have loved to see Adelaide go against Winx in their pomp in the Cox Plate.
Winx was faster by a second compared to Adelaide in 2014 but had half kilo less and made all that time up in the last 600m where it had a clear run (and it was a ****ing awesome final 600).
Adelaide had to gobble them all up through traffic to get the win after being last at the top of the turn.

Adelaide was a damn good horse.
Winx still $1.90 ton win this year. get on now boys, no one is coming close.

[pv4]

Easiest money of my life is getting 2.70 for Roy Odonovan to be CCMs top scorer. No one is scratching the surface compared to what he will.

[q-money]

yuck. name the day got smoked by 3L. i forgot i even had this on.

http://i.imgur.com/bRJUSZX.png

what a punishment on the bookies though yesterday. one for the good guys

i reckon the entire country was on chetwood, he's our rokki and star turn

[pv4]

Winx still $1.90 ton win this year. get on now boys, no one is coming close.

Just got on Winx @ 2.00. Carn you good thing!

[q-money]

Barthelona getting around in the blue sapphire tomorrow, only problem is he runs up against old mate Flying Artie

Opened 15s with that in mind, think he's chipping in a bit now

Get around the people's champ Go Dreaming in the Caulfield Cup on Saturday, a country battler bouught for 9.5K, ran 4th in the G3 JRA Cup the other week and has repaid his owners 40 times over. #narrative

You can boost your odds to 500-1, chuck a schooey on for the good times

[PC14]

Barthelona getting around in the blue sapphire tomorrow, only problem is he runs up against old mate Flying Artie

Opened 15s with that in mind, think he's chipping in a bit now

Get around the people's champ Go Dreaming in the Caulfield Cup on Saturday, a country battler bouught for 9.5K, ran 4th in the G3 JRA Cup the other week and has repaid his owners 40 times over. #narrative

You can boost your odds to 500-1, chuck a schooey on for the good times

I'm running Artie in Palladien in the second at Sydney tomorrow. Should get around $6-7 for the multi. Hopefully a little bit of cash in the pocket for Saturday.

[q-money]

I'm running Artie in Palladien in the second at Sydney tomorrow. Should get around $6-7 for the multi. Hopefully a little bit of cash in the pocket for Saturday.
landed - nice work PC

In Times of War lobbed nicely for me as well, was also very happy with Katelyn Mallyon's ride on Our Century, a bloody beauty. criminally underrated jock.

Flying Artie has terrible race manners, watch him at the 100 veer off towards the stands! Serious bit of horse though.

Barthelona putrid, but in hindsight never mapped well for this race at all. Will stay on.

[skippy]

landed - nice work PC

In Times of War lobbed nicely for me as well, was also very happy with Katelyn Mallyon's ride on Our Century, a bloody beauty. criminally underrated jock.

Flying Artie has terrible race manners, watch him at the 100 veer off towards the stands! Serious bit of horse though.

Barthelona putrid, but in hindsight never mapped well for this race at all. Will stay on.

Oliver copped a 20 meeting suspension for his ride on Artie, no complaints though he is a ****ing crim.

[The Dunster]

Oliver copped a 20 meeting suspension for his ride on Artie, no complaints though he is a ****ing crim.

Absolutely. He's as genuine as a three dollar note.

[plague]

i mean i know I'm reading the same form as everyone else but are we sure Jameka is a legit $4 fav this weekend?
i thought last year was a bit of a layup and its the first time in ages id won cash on the Caufield Cup but this reminds me of the Cox Plate a few years back where Ocean Park was clearly the best horse yet Green Moon was the raging favourite.

Talk me into or out of it boys because I'm seeing value in Sir John Hawkwood and even Craigy Williams' donkey is raising my eyebrows.

[q-money]

i mean i know I'm reading the same form as everyone else but are we sure Jameka is a legit $4 fav this weekend?
i thought last year was a bit of a layup and its the first time in ages id won cash on the Caufield Cup but this reminds me of the Cox Plate a few years back where Ocean Park was clearly the best horse yet Green Moon was the raging favourite.

Talk me into or out of it boys because I'm seeing value in Sir John Hawkwood and even Craigy Williams' donkey is raising my eyebrows.
i'm no gun punter (as you can see) but i can't take Jameka at the 4...i'm not sure who's loading into her, or who is even setting this market?

dunno if previous 2400/2500 form holds up as Honesta and Tavago haven't been sighted since. Hartnell put so much hurt into that field in the Turnbull that I can't take anything out of it given what he did to the rest of them

came across a useful bit of words from old mate Adam Blencowe with the Timeform analysis for the UK brigade and is pointing at Scottish. Worth a read and hard to argue when you look at who old mate has come up against. The 7.50 seems overs on the back of it.

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/racing/2016-caulfield-cup-the-internationals-story-380908

data points towards Scottish being the real deal imo.

[plague]

i'm no gun punter (as you can see) but i can't take Jameka at the 4...i'm not sure who's loading into her, or who is even setting this market?

dunno if previous 2400/2500 form holds up as Honesta and Tavago haven't been sighted since. Hartnell put so much hurt into that field in the Turnbull that I can't take anything out of it given what he did to the rest of them

came across a useful bit of words from old mate Adam Blencowe with the Timeform analysis for the UK brigade and is pointing at Scottish. Worth a read and hard to argue when you look at who old mate has come up against. The 7.50 seems overs on the back of it.

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/racing/2016-caulfield-cup-the-internationals-story-380908

data points towards Scottish being the real deal imo.

Yeah reading up on SJH (haven't paid attention to the telly) the age bothers me as does its tendency to sit deep. Not sure Blake Spriggs is the guy to guide through a big field in a group 1. Scottish not winning at the distance is a tad concerning, but theres def some keen wraps on it.

Sacred Master getting crunched at the moment. Form 26 into 18 already. Huge chatter on it.

[q-money]

has anyone got the sectional data from the Metropolitan by any chance? wouldn't mind having a poke through re: sacred master/SJH etc.

hit me up

[skippy]

Yeah reading up on SJH (haven't paid attention to the telly) the age bothers me as does its tendency to sit deep. Not sure Blake Spriggs is the guy to guide through a big field in a group 1. Scottish not winning at the distance is a tad concerning, but theres def some keen wraps on it.

Sacred Master getting crunched at the moment. Form 26 into 18 already. Huge chatter on it.

Wouldn't be like a Waller outsider to win a race.

[The Dunster]

i'm no gun punter (as you can see) but i can't take Jameka at the 4...i'm not sure who's loading into her, or who is even setting this market?

dunno if previous 2400/2500 form holds up as Honesta and Tavago haven't been sighted since. Hartnell put so much hurt into that field in the Turnbull that I can't take anything out of it given what he did to the rest of them

came across a useful bit of words from old mate Adam Blencowe with the Timeform analysis for the UK brigade and is pointing at Scottish. Worth a read and hard to argue when you look at who old mate has come up against. The 7.50 seems overs on the back of it.

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/racing/2016-caulfield-cup-the-internationals-story-380908

data points towards Scottish being the real deal imo.

Milers tend to run very well in the Caulfield Cup and history proves it. There have been plenty of winners and placed horses who struggle to get the 12 furlongs anywhere else - but many a miler has turned close to the lead in the cup and managed to get on with it. Leilani, Might n Power, Makybe Diva, Northerly, and Super Impose, Cole Diese, Imposera, Sydeston, Fawkner, Mummify, Elvesroem, Sky Heights, Diatribe, Mannerism... and so on were all very strong milers

The genuine stayers sometimes win it as well but they are still top class milers or need the race to be run to suit them - Doreiums is an example - but again strong over a mile against anything not a genuine WFA horse. This happens about as often as a Horse wins the cups double - rarely.

Three year old 12f form and further I'd not waste my time with as it rarely tells us anything more than where the horse is at with respect to maturity rather than staying ability. Mighty Kingdom, Beau Zam and Nothing Leica Dane being the only genuine three year old stayer in recent times that went on with it. Your Octagonals, Mahogany, Stylish Century... and so on relied on class more than staying ability to cover the 12f plus distances.

[The Dunster]

i mean i know I'm reading the same form as everyone else but are we sure Jameka is a legit $4 fav this weekend?
i thought last year was a bit of a layup and its the first time in ages id won cash on the Caufield Cup but this reminds me of the Cox Plate a few years back where Ocean Park was clearly the best horse yet Green Moon was the raging favourite.

Talk me into or out of it boys because I'm seeing value in Sir John Hawkwood and even Craigy Williams' donkey is raising my eyebrows.

I won't be getting my money on Jameka. Had a decent run last start but there are some seriously nice imports in the race I wouldn't be betting against - and certainly not at those ridiculous odds.

Scottish is the one I wouldn't be betting against and Sir Isaac Newton has great form as well as breeding to die for.

[skippy]

I won't be getting my money on Jameka. Had a decent run last start but there are some seriously nice imports in the race I wouldn't be betting against - and certainly not at those ridiculous odds.

Agreed can't touch it at the odds, jumped on Q's tips at $8.50.

What else are we keen on this weekend?

For me:
Caufield:
R1: Sylpheed
R2: Mortons Fork

Ascot: R7- Lite n my veins

Randiwck: R9 Speith

and the big fella pakistan star is back in Sha Tin on Sunday, find something to double it up with.

[q-money]

gonna be up in newy tomoz, anyone got a suggestion for a decent pub TAB?

my olds live in new lambton, and i used to go to the duke but it's f*ucking awful on race days there, and it smells like farts 24/7, plus the General's TAB prison is terrible.

have it down to the blacky or the lambton park, erring towards the latter

[skippy]

gonna be up in newy tomoz, anyone got a suggestion for a decent pub TAB?

my olds live in new lambton, and i used to go to the duke but it's f*ucking awful on race days there, and it smells like farts 24/7, plus the General's TAB prison is terrible.

have it down to the blacky or the lambton park, erring towards the latter

Blacky was my local for the last couple of years, beers are good got enough screens to keep ya happy but haven't been there on a big race day,the food is better at LPH if that sways you at all and has kent old brown on tap so to summarise I haven't been really helpful.

[q-money]

LPH it is for a thoroughly awful Kent

[plague]

everyone tipping me into Sebring dream in race 4 at Caufield.
any thoughts lads?

oh , and Super Cash in race 3.

[skippy]

everyone tipping me into Sebring dream in race 4 at Caufield.
any thoughts lads?

oh , and Super Cash in race 3.

I'm on Sebring dream so safe option is to lay it.

[plague]

So I'm sitting at the Lambton Park hotel and have no idea which one of you blokes is q-man.

[The Dunster]

Hartnell's forms looking pretty good now after Jameka takes out the Caulfield Cup. Have to say I was surprised by the result as I thought Scottish was well and truly the one to beat.

[plague]

Foursome paying $9.80 just got me square. Favourites winning everywhere. I hate favourites.

[pv4]

So I'm sitting at the Lambton Park hotel and have no idea which one of you blokes is q-man.

Farking hell why did I find this so late. Plague and q coming together, my days

[plague]

Farking hell why did I find this so late. Plague and q coming together, my days
He won't announce himself WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO HIDE Q- MAN??????

[q-money]

Mate I was there for about 20 min then we decided to head to the track seeing it was such a ripper day outside! The titty was great, you would have loved it! Should have let me know you were coming!! Can't believe I missed the great plague ffs

I am deadset in tears here, I was balls deep in Scottish, and again on Takedown...Blake shinn pls get in the sea

[q-money]

Also wish I never went to the track, Jeff penza slaughtering two highly rated godolphin offerings to add to my misery

[plague]

I finished slightly above even but was betting with house money for most of the day so whatever.

Old love in the pig tails behind the bar was a solid 8/10 but the fact Q-man stayed in the Ecuadorean embassy meant my day finished a little below expectations.

Jameka, like Winx, proved it on the back end but I make no apologies for not betting on 'potential'.


Also, RIP Octagonal. What a mighty horse.

[q-money]

I think we may have to organise a proper NF.net Raceday Meat and Greet at some point so I don't disappoint the legions of fans of Plague and to a lesser extent myself.

[plague]

I think we may have to organise a proper NF.net Raceday Meat and Greet at some point so I don't disappoint the legions of fans of Plague and to a lesser extent myself.

Yeah we'd need to cap the invites cause there's a few mongs on here I want no part of.

Cox Plate coming up next week I'll be searching for a boozer.

[q-money]

TBH for the limited time I spent there today the LPH was decent. Lack of fart smell and decent looking food.

Got my tickets in the mail for the Plate yesterday...absolutely frothing!

[The Dunster]

Also, RIP Octagonal. What a mighty horse.

Shane Dye said he was the best horse he ever rode. Very sad news.

[skippy]

Yeah we'd need to cap the invites cause there's a few mongs on here I want no part of.

Cox Plate coming up next week I'll be searching for a boozer.

I might be keen for a beer and punt.

Had an alright day loaded up on the 1st at Adelaide tipped q into him only paying evens but free money for the rest of he day.

Junoob, invinzabeel, Egyptian symbol, speith, and first seal at $7s thank you.

[skippy]

I might be keen for a beer and punt

Actually scratch that I definitely will be, have to check with the old jail warden see if I'm allowed out after last nights antics lolol.

[The Dunster]

Actually scratch that I definitely will be, have to check with the old jail warden see if I'm allowed out after last nights antics lolol.

Better off begging for forgiveness than asking for permission.

[q-money]

cannot believe old mate junoob won ffs, 25 starts without a win.

one for the true believers there.

[plague]

cannot believe old mate junoob won ffs, 25 starts without a win.

one for the true believers there.

Plague Jnr gave it the thumbs up so I promised to put a bet on for him but laughed in his face whilst I said it.

Damn thing just made Plague Jnr richer.

and of course I was on sense of occasion - mule.

[q-money]

i watched the bloke i was with pile into it, shaking my head at the time

i was on caped (aka crocked) crusader ffs

[skippy]

Agreed can't touch it at the odds, jumped on Q's tips at $8.50.

What else are we keen on this weekend?

For me:
Caufield:
R1: Sylpheed
R2: Mortons Fork

Ascot: R7- Lite n my veins

Randiwck: R9 Speith


Hope you boys jumped on lite n my veins comes in at $13's, Speith was huge, Morton's fork was a terrible ride and so was Sylpheed.

[plague]

you can get Chataqua in the Manikato into Winx in the Cox plate for $4.70 ATM lads

[skippy]

Cox Plater barrier draw, does it make any difference?

1 Yankee rose
2 Vadamos
3 Winx
4 Happy clapper
5 Awesome rock
6 Black heart bart
7 Hartnell
8 Hauraki
9 Lucia Valantina
10 happy trails

Also chataqua from barrier 1 in the manikato.

[q-money]

you'd think that bowman would try and stay on the back of YR from that barrier, surely yendall just goes for broke with her with 47.5

[The Dunster]

you'd think that bowman would try and stay on the back of YR from that barrier, surely yendall just goes for broke with her with 47.5

She's barely beating her own age and sex let alone what she will face in the Cox plate. She's probably 25kg inferior to the best two in the race on current form so will need to make a huge improvement.

[plague]

Media already pretty desperate for a non Winx storyline. They had Oliver gushing over Vadamos' practice run yesterday saying "it could be a dark horse".

Oliver knows that the Cox Plate is not exactly the race for a "dark horse", usually best horse wins.

[The Dunster]

Media already pretty desperate for a non Winx storyline. They had Oliver gushing over Vadamos' practice run yesterday saying "it could be a dark horse".

Oliver knows that the Cox Plate is not exactly the race for a "dark horse", usually best horse wins.
Vadamos has some pretty awesome form in Europe against top class opposition. He is also a horse that likes to be up on the pace so the valley will probably suit him. Still think Winx is the one to beat but this bloke will definitely come into calculations if the track is a little soft on raceday.

[q-money]

She's barely beating her own age and sex let alone what she will face in the Cox plate. She's probably 25kg inferior to the best two in the race on current form so will need to make a huge improvement.
mate i don't reckon she'll win - just the speed mapping will be interesting with her. i reckon she'll ping out hard with the crowd freaking her out a bit, as she doesn't seem like the most calm and collected type. watch the win she had a couple of weeks back, all over the track. with no weight she'll be flying for a fair while

[q-money]

Also reckon I'll have a crack at Hartnell if he gets to 4 and I have anything left in the tank

[plague]

q-man make sure you give the mooney valley cup good crack too. still prob the best on track experience I've ever had was backing the old donkey precedence a couple of years back and it getting home paying about 10's. Crowd was mental, i think everyone had it. we nailed another one early doors (Canali) paying 10's and the day was magic..........right up until Seamus Award won the Cox Plate as an emergency.

damnit im so jealous youre gonna be there.

[skippy]

What are we keen on tonight gents?

Im pretty keen on Mihany, Brockhoff, thinking Holler E/W definitely worth a shout and Sir Bacchus in the last will blouse them if he gets clear.

[q-money]

Stage is set for the great lad Buffering to do his thing at the valley. you can't ignore the price on offer even if he is up against your Chatauquas et.al

Lots you can't ignore in the race - but the draw will let him do what he does best and pile the hurt on from Barrier 1, one for the sentimental characters out there, if he wins i'll cry i reckon. Great field, nice to see proper G1 horses going about after some of the crap we've had to put up with of late

Like Mihany, Rageese and Sir Bacchus as well.

Don't discount Sandhill Warrior in R2, bloke is absolutely bombproof and makes his own luck, great horse who i've had tons of success with of late. go well son

[plague]

I'm down with Sir Bacchus but asking me to choose between my kids Buffers and Chats hurts too much so I'll be boxing the quinella.

[skippy]

I'm down with Sir Bacchus but asking me to choose between my kids Buffers and Chats hurts too much so I'll be boxing the quinella.

Please everyone has a favourite child, just ask my parents its clearly not me.

Holler is coming in big time down to $6.50 on sportsbet but still $9-$10s around on most others.

[skippy]

I'm down with Sir Bacchus but asking me to choose between my kids Buffers and Chats hurts too much so I'll be boxing the quinella.

Also big fella should shoot me or Q a pm so you can join us talking shit about horses on FB

[plague]

Also big fella should shoot me or Q a pm so you can join us talking shit about horses on FB

Mum won't let me have Facebook.
She said there's too many trolls on it.

[leftrightout]

I'm down with Sir Bacchus but asking me to choose between my kids Buffers and Chats hurts too much so I'll be boxing the quinella.

Sir Bacchus always gets my money!
Chats in Sportsbet power play 3 bucks! Go you good thing!


Excuse the bad grammar it's Friday and beer etc.

[WolfMan]

Tipped a mate who is at the track into Smart As You Think. That's her and her hubby's drinks paid for the evening

Should have put some on myself

[plague]

Goodness Griff have mercy. What a boilover.

[leftrightout]

Buffering last run?

[leftrightout]

Sir Bacchus saves the night!

[q-money]

ooooh good lord may be a bit wary tomorrow

[leftrightout]

Good day to sit in front of the Tele with a few beers I think!
This weather will shake a few things up!

[q-money]

it's deadset ****ing freezing down here

rain isn't heavy - if it comes pile into lucia valentina

my best

R2: tarco e/w, gun case
R3: jeanneau e/w
R5: alaskan rose
R7: royal rapture the value against the united states who's been crook. hard to pick
R8: gallante/excess knowledge exacta
R9: suit yourself! happy clapper e/w...carn the gun. just sit back and watch the best two minutes in racing
R10: prized icon in the get out. pls

still reeling after last night ffs, absolute carnage

[plague]

ive got feng chu(?) in the first.

[plague]

also, q-man, theres a Nandos truck parked just outside the tunnel at the northern end. it will be your best friend today. get on son.

[leftrightout]

it's deadset ****ing freezing down here

rain isn't heavy - if it comes pile into lucia valentina

my best

R2: tarco e/w, gun case
R3: jeanneau e/w
R5: alaskan rose
R7: royal rapture the value against the united states who's been crook. hard to pick
R8: gallante/excess knowledge exacta
R9: suit yourself! happy clapper e/w...carn the gun. just sit back and watch the best two minutes in racing
R10: prized icon in the get out. pls

still reeling after last night ffs, absolute carnage

How's the weather?

[plague]

O'Malley, the United States and my Giuliano have me well in front.

Now, do we plonk it all on Winx or nah?

[leftrightout]

O'Malley, the United States and my Giuliano have me well in front.

Now, do we plonk it all on Winx or nah?

Yeah!

[plague]

Yeah!
Of course I did, and then nailed the bail out stakes in the last.

Great day on the punt.
What a magnificent horse Winx is.

[pv4]

Got on Winx in a big way. You beauty!

[skippy]

Been chipping away at Winx for 12 months started at $8's and that doesn't include the Sportsbet special Winx to go unbeaten in 2016 including the cox plate started at $51-1, I got on at $41-1 maximum $25 bet.

Easiest money I have made in my life, now to do it again for next year.

[skippy]

Just checked the tab starts at $3.6 for next years cox plate.

[skippy]

Yankee rose at $4.60 a place looks a decent option

[plague]

Just a great day on the punt.
My goodness Winx.
Can't wait for q-mans report from ground zero.

[plague]

and also loaded into the All Blacks giving 22.5 start.

I am shocked any bookies are left in business today.

[The Dunster]

Q-man effectively tipped the Cox Plate trifecta for us.

Four horses names were motioned on the Foz for the Cox plate and they finished 1 2 3 4.

Fook racing dot com. This is where it's at.

Bookmakers must absolutely hate Winx after yesterdays effot/

[q-money]

Hahaha I wish mate, putrid form from me over the two days but what a privilege to see the great lass do it to a field that were no slouches. If you weren't absolutely exhilarated by that run you need your head read. Stunning.

Kaniana was about the only thing I got home yesterday, got smellier and smellier in the market and I couldn't not have a dig, 16.50 thanks for comin!

Ripper day and one that'll be remembered for a long time! She's a champion!

[PC14]

Sounds like a good day for Foz Punter overall.

I returned on Azazel, Invincibella, Reincarnate and Sacred Elixir in Sydney and Melbourne (had crafted @ $20s in the second and got pipped and had the 1st, 2nd and 4th in the Moonee Valley Cup for a tri @ 150%).

Also picked up With a Bit of Dash in Adelaide, Lord Coconuts and Bidii Babe in Brisbane, 2 late mails on the Gold Coast and one in Kembla.

Couldn't bring myself to have a bet in the Cox Plate. I prefer to just watch horses like Winx to run. That's enough interest for me.

Hopefully the Spring run continues, or starts soon, for all.

[skippy]

I love Derby day, probably my favourite day of racing in the year so excited.

[q-money]

How good is the coolmore looking? Wow

[skippy]

Its looking superb, it will come down to who handles the straight run the best, the jumpout last week would have helped but jeez I can't pick a winner at this stage.

[skippy]

2016 Coolmore Stud Stakes field and barriers:

1. CAPITALIST Peter & Paul Snowden - Blake Shinn (7) 57kg
2. EXTREME CHOICE Mick Price - Craig Newitt (3) 57kg
3. ASTERN John O'Shea - James McDonald (8) 57kg
4. FLYING ARTIE Mick Price - Hugh Bowman (1) 57kg
5. STAR TURN Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes - Dwayne Dunn (4) 57kg
6. RUSSIAN REVOLUTION Peter & Paul Snowden - Kerrin McEvoy (10) 57kg
7. SARACINO (NZ) Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman - Mark Zahra (5) 57kg
8. ARCHIVES John O'Shea - Craig Williams (9) 57kg
9. DERRYN David & B Hayes & T Dabernig - Joao Moreira (2) 57kg
10. MANOLO BLAHNIQ (NZ) Tony Noonan - Steven Arnold (6) 57kg

Who is your pick lads?

[leftrightout]

2016 Coolmore Stud Stakes field and barriers:

1. CAPITALIST Peter & Paul Snowden - Blake Shinn (7) 57kg
2. EXTREME CHOICE Mick Price - Craig Newitt (3) 57kg
3. ASTERN John O'Shea - James McDonald (8) 57kg
4. FLYING ARTIE Mick Price - Hugh Bowman (1) 57kg
5. STAR TURN Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes - Dwayne Dunn (4) 57kg
6. RUSSIAN REVOLUTION Peter & Paul Snowden - Kerrin McEvoy (10) 57kg
7. SARACINO (NZ) Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman - Mark Zahra (5) 57kg
8. ARCHIVES John O'Shea - Craig Williams (9) 57kg
9. DERRYN David & B Hayes & T Dabernig - Joao Moreira (2) 57kg
10. MANOLO BLAHNIQ (NZ) Tony Noonan - Steven Arnold (6) 57kg

Who is your pick lads?


Capitalist to beat Astern.

Probably why i lose a lot, i love to bet with my heart!

[pv4]

Derryn Hinch to shit it in

[q-money]

extreme choice

[skippy]

Capitalist has been scratched.

I'm going with Astern and Russian Revolution as en E/W shout.

[q-money]

still reckon extreme choice is good value but will be on astern as well, if he hits the go button it's lights out

john o'shea has some ripping types up at rosehill tomorrow as well - avdulla with a stonking book of rides while the other blokes are in melbourne

[plague]

Junoob the toppie in the Lexus.
lightning can't strike twice can it?

[plague]

Also: The peoples horse, The United States paying $6 in race 8 tomorrow. Brilliant win last week, dropping 2kg, just worried how it will back up.
stay woke boys.

[plague]

john o'shea has some ripping types up at rosehill tomorrow as well - avdulla with a stonking book of rides while the other blokes are in melbourne

steering clear of any of the races sponsored by the Unions.
gonna be corrupt* as.


*allegedly.

[plague]

Also: The peoples horse, The United States paying $6 in race 8 tomorrow. Brilliant win last week, dropping 2kg, just worried how it will back up.
stay woke boys.

although, EVERYONE is tipping me into macintosh @ $9 in this one.

[q-money]

Ladies, Gentleman, Professor Dunster, esteemed members of the NF Equine Academy, Executive Director Plague, Executive Vice President Skip, Special Envoy to the United Nations PC14, Member for Outer Zanzibar Leftrightout, Observer PV4....

It's time to show the bookmakers we mean business.

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Flemington R1: Carbine Club Stakes

Not many race days can boast a race as good as this as the first on the card. Royal Ascot would trot the Queen out - then put on a BM58 with 6 unseen runners. Here we have proper horses, in a pretty outstanding G3 race when you look at it. Of the runners, Morton's Fork is still stuck in the pocket he was in a couple of weeks back, and I think he also knows the whereabouts of Ghisoni, Harold Holt and MH370 and the Nazi Gold Train. If he could find a way out for Takedown as well, I'd be even happier.

My picks here - Morton's Fork on top from Bezel and Comin' Through. Bezel up in class and occasion, and Comin' Through up into the trip he's been needing. All three have genuine chances but I think I'm with the Fork here.


Flemington R2: Mumm Wakeful Stakes

Load the contents of your wallet, credit, cigarettes and first born into Tiamo Grace*.

Alliterate the danger for me. Will be on TG with an E/W play on Alliterate - look for exactas/quins here.
(* no responsibilty taken for contents lost)


Flemington R3: Sensis Stakes

Huge field and a ton of live chances here. My numbers 2/1/7/8 with 7 & 8 being top EW stabs.

Sheidel and Wild Rain have the formlines that stack up - big question for Sheidel it's the first time down the straight but I've seen enough data to debunk that theory.

She has one Joao Moreira on the back and I think that's quite important (which will also run into Plague's dilemma in the Cantala Stakes - which I will get into later in the piece). The Magic Man can rate a winner, and although there’s very few blokes riding better than Damian Lane- I think that he’ll get Sheidel home over a very top notch contender in Wild Rain. I have Almighty Girl well rated here at 17, and the People’s Champ – Palazzo Publico in for a tenner E/W at the frankly outrageous 61.


Flemington R4: Lexus Stakes

1/2/7/10

If you aren’t rooting for Junoob - you are un-Australian and ripe for an old fashioned left-right-goodnight.

The bloke is bulletproof and doesn’t know how to run a bad race. He gets a shot at a Melbourne Cup if he wins this FFS. How can you not get around him.

In a week where Buffering retires, and Fab Fevola dies, this is what the people need. Bowman owes a ton of us for the dud rides he had around Winx and getting the ‘Noob home is how he should do it. I’ll lay off him for a week or two if he does. I swear.

For the roughies - Rose of Virginia is massive overs at 61 and worth an E/W shot for a schooner or so. I really want to get around Oceanographer, being a son of my favourite horses in Sea the Stars, price just can’t do it for me.


Flemington R5: Coolmore Stud Stakes

Staggeringly good field, easily the best in the world this year in terms of potential. The two Victorians in Extreme Choice and Flying Artie who I had pegged as duds have totally and utterly proved me wrong (not hard). It is a shame that Capitalist has been scratched as it would have made a great thing even better.

Extreme Choice has beaten the biggest, baddest dudes on the planet at MV in the Moir, and looked like he could do even better in a trial where he was held in a vice-like grip. However it’s easy when you’re carrying 52kg. Star Turn did all the work while beating everyone’s brains out in the Schillaci (albeit under WFA with 53) Gets a sharp rise to 57 under set weights and will be back to the pack.

Really though – weight isn’t much to consider when you look at these blokes, and then you throw in Astern + Russian Revolution - who I think is the forgotten horse here.

Hard to argue with his form - I really like Extreme Choice and think that he’s probably come on better than Flying Artie who has terrible manners on the course. I am frothing for this and will have dollary-doos on Extreme Choice, Astern and Russian Revolution. Strap in. How great.

Flemington R6: Myer Classic

Will be taking very big interest in First Seal who seems to have blown the cobwebs out, and Danish Twist at this trip. Watch for Don’t Doubt Mamma’s withering finishing speed, and Dunn will have her right in the zone to get home. Always hard to ignore Rising Romance who doesn’t know how to not finish on the podium.

2/4/7/1 in any order.

Flemington R7: Victoria Derby

Froth overload. Sacred Elixir hard to ignore and is excellently prepared for this trip. 2.80 probably about right numbers and will get at it. Looked great in the Vase and a red-hot chance. Prized Icon absolutely cursed at the moment but surely due some luck. Swear has been up against some tip-top opposition and only got beaten by Yankee Rose who then went on to run third in the Cox Plate behind two of the best horses on the planet. I’m going to back Swear here and have a stab at Highlad E/W. Highlad seems to attract rotten luck and hopefully will have more luck at HQ. Can’t discount So Si Bon, but I think he might find a few better here – but if Bowman wants to atone for his stinking form here’s a good time to do it, and the horse is quality.


Flemington R8: Cantala Stakes

Very intriguing betting race here. I have never, ever been able to catch The United States and he did it to me again last week. Absolute turf warrior this chap, by the great Galileo and capable of winning from everywhere. If he gets the run he’ll probably go very, very close.

My main marker here though – is Mackintosh being ridden by the Magic Man. His winning ride in the Theo Marks should be required viewing for every apprentice out there. Lined them up at the 400, got caught in strife, moved out, switched whip hand and gave him an almighty whack to get him in the right frame of mind and held off fast finishers all around him. I was of the opinion all he had to do was sit and sprint but this run sold me on him.

Few of the other blokes around in this race have been up for a very long time (Rokkii, Voodoo Lad etc) and I think they will be fighting it out for the minors behind the two aforementioned.

Mackintosh on top from the United States in an obscenely close run thing.

Flemington R9: tab.com.au Stakes

Some great old warriors in here and a decent way to lose your quaddie. A few $70 shots would be nice if you picked the field but whatever. My numbers 6 from 5/8/11. Enjoy.

Thanks for reading chaps. Go well.


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[leftrightout]

Decent start to the day!

[skippy]

I had loaded up on astern but thankfully the missus made me put $$ on flying artie because of the pink colours.

[q-money]

what a day. Had a few in the q-form above but romped home with prized icon and illustrious lad through the afternoon #fillup

[The Dunster]

Big Orange is the best horse in the Melbourne Cup this year and I cannot see the 57kg being an issue.
He likes to lead / be on the pace and he can stay all day. It's going to take a very good horse to run him down - the only issue for me will be if there is a strong wind blowing and he's forced to do all the hard work out front.
If there's no wind / rain then I think he's going to be the best value cup runner since Vintage Crop when he won.

[PC14]

Nice write up Q. I'm only just reading it, though I had another good day on Saturday. Best day of the year and, in my opinion, you can follow the form lines a bit easier then most other big race days.

Got the winner and a small part of the tri in the 1st and the winner/quinella in the 2nd. Had a few trifectas running 1st, 2nd and 4th. I think it was three in total. Had a bit on Oceanographer (following into Cup) and got all the tri in the last.

I don't usually have a good betting day Melbourne Cup Day, but hopefully I can keep riding this wave. I've got Oceanographer as my pick, after it's last two runs here. Hopefully gets itself in a spot midfield, from a decent barrier, and runs over the top of them. I'm not too concerned with it's workload, like some are. It really only ran for 600m on Saturday and was supposedly back spritely at track work yesterday. I've doubled him up with Yankee Rose on Thursday.

My tri - Big Orange, Hartnell, Jameka, Almandin, Our Ivanhowe and Oceanographer.

[q-money]

Nice write up Q. I'm only just reading it, though I had another good day on Saturday. Best day of the year and, in my opinion, you can follow the form lines a bit easier then most other big race days.

Got the winner and a small part of the tri in the 1st and the winner/quinella in the 2nd. Had a few trifectas running 1st, 2nd and 4th. I think it was three in total. Had a bit on Oceanographer (following into Cup) and got all the tri in the last.

I don't usually have a good betting day Melbourne Cup Day, but hopefully I can keep riding this wave. I've got Oceanographer as my pick, after it's last two runs here. Hopefully gets itself in a spot midfield, from a decent barrier, and runs over the top of them. I'm not too concerned with it's workload, like some are. It really only ran for 600m on Saturday and was supposedly back spritely at track work yesterday. I've doubled him up with Yankee Rose on Thursday.

My tri - Big Orange, Hartnell, Jameka, Almandin, Our Ivanhowe and Oceanographer.

Thanks mate, gives me something to do on a friday night :lol: Had to rejig a bit of the strategy through the day, will try and be more concrete next time!

I'm a bit up in the air on Oceanographer, while the closing sectionals were pretty impressive i'm not sure that's the pattern you want to be taking in against proper stayers up in trip. hard to argue with them though, if they walk like they did last year, you'd expect that he and Hartnell will go for broke if they get the tempo they need.

Very good writeup here from Luke Murrell who brought out Protectionist - http://www.justracing.com.au/

Big knocks on Curren Mirotic around from some but he is a serious horse and can definitely change the pattern if Berry lets him go and set the tempo like Murrell says.

My Japanese form is for the bin though ffs. I picked A Shin Hikari in the Tenno Sho last night when I never should have jumped off the Maurice train. Brained them.

I've gone the scattergun approach here, I have backed Big Orange, Secret Number, Bondi Beach, Curren Mirotic, Assign and Wicklow Brave to varying degrees of confidence, with Big Orange getting most of the biscuits.

Will have a gander through the lineups tonight but not much really takes my fancy until after the Cup. Quaddie could be interesting.

[PC14]

Personally, I don't think Cup day is a good day for punting. Big fields and form all over the country make it hard to line up. It won't stop me trying.

I'm also yet to look at the fields. Will buy a paper when I'm at lunch and go over it tonight.

[skippy]

what a day. Had a few in the q-form above but romped home with prized icon and illustrious lad through the afternoon #fillup

Had a cracker of a day myself.

Nailed:

Comin through who could be a serious race horse did it fairly easy in only his 3rd run.
Tiamo Grace and Sebring dream quinella
Shiedel
Oceanagrapher and Tom Melbourne quinella
Missus picked flying Artie, reading Luke Murrels write up on this race he nailed it had been bagging out extreme choice and he was proven right, see Q's link for his write up on the cup he knows what he is talking about and sticks strongly to his opinions.
Have to thank Q for talking me back into Prized Icon, I had gone a bit cold on him and do love the horse, went back over the form and he had the exact same sort of lead up as the other group 1 he picked up and form around Yankee Rose.
Le Romain liked his odds after pantsing Press Statement earlier this year and Lees was confident.
Was a bit disappointed in my boy southern legend.


As much as I love the Melbourne Cup and have done well on it in the past its a pretty mud day of racing. But will try and do some form for tomorrow, I spotted early overs with Sir Bacchus in the last but he is not guaranteed to start as they are looking at putting him in the greys race on the last day which I'm not too happy about but am talking out of my pocket there.

[q-money]

Tough card, but value can be found if you’re brave (or stupid) enough


R1: Suit yourself, what a ****ing joke this race is. An insult to punters. 70% unseen runners. No wonder people think racing is crooked.

R2: Taking Jessy Belle e/w, I see Model Dragon has a bit of money coming for it now. Like the Smerdon horse here too, see if there’s a go for it – if so follow it in

R3: Murphy’s Delight my top pick here. Junoob form from the great warrior’s last win and gets Bowman on, back in grade too. Up in trip and sound enough. Have to respect Morning Mix with my second wife Katelyn Mallyon on, money will probably come for Cinnamon Carter off the win at the Valley, is the backup too quick?

R4: Demonstrate top pick. Godolphin runner with the top dog JMac on board and walked it in at Geelong last start. Hard to argue against. Opened 2.30, wish I bothered to look earlier!

R5: Amanaat and Biased Witness. Will be backing both.

R6: Faraway Town, Invincibella and Skylight Glow all take my fancy here, as with Sylpheed. Sylpheed and Skylight Glow last out into disastrous wind at Caulfield. Not ideal race to pick but these 4 probably the best. Faraway Town e/w and Sylpheed win.

R7: See previous thoughts

R8: Look at Muraqaba e/w. Ryan Moore on Tashbeeh, bit of a change from Maurice in the Tenno Sho., lol. Dunno if I can take Fabrizio at 2.5. If it drifts I will. Can’t ignore Jacquinot Bay either, tough old bloke Will focus on Muraqaba.

R9: Skip’s mate Sir Bacchus here against Ravi. Personally going to go with Lord Von Costa e/w here, got no luck in the race with Demonstrate mentioned above at Geelong and still ran on for fourth. LVC a decent bet.

R10: Egyptian Symbol for the win, with Onemorezeta e/w. She owes me as for some reason I’ve been shoveling money into her, only Lees runner all day. Maybe he wanted an invitation into the grandstand or something.

Good luck gents. Will see how I go through the morning then have a stab at the exotics in the cup and the quaddie.

[plague]

i love donkey racing.
i don't like the melbourne cup for the following 2 reasons.

1. a few years back the secretary at my old work used to put a half unit on every horse but not tell anyone. then after the race she'd rummage through her bag and pull out the winning ticket. she only did it for the ego trip of 'picking the winner' and suckers at work fell for it every time (i used to hang with her younger brother who was the person putting the bets on for her). this is everything thats wrong with gambling. gambling is about making money. gambling is not about idiots getting the adulation of other idiots (thats what gymnastics is for).

2. dickheads who dress up to go to the ****ing cricketers or mary ellen for the race. tarts whacking a fascinator on their bonce thinking they are killing it sucking down shit champers wildly screaming like ****wits thinking their horse won not realising theres another ****ing lap to go. **** those people, and **** them trying to get a taxi at 5 in the arvo staggering around honeysuckle after not getting let in to another shit pub full of assholes in fascinators.

now, onto the race.

If i was betting for the win id be loading up on Hartnell. I reackon its the best horse in the race, but that doesnt mean shit when there are 23 other asshole horses who don't care about your divine right to win. If there was any justice in racing then every asshole horse would have go the **** out of the way of the peoples horse 'The United States' last saturday and let it coast home. but no, some other horse with some midget asshole decided they didnt want the people to have nice things and new lego sets for their children. this is why horse racing is corrupt and bad. and by bad i mean awesome.

where I've done well over the years is getting great value from making place bets on roughies. donkeys like zipping, red cadeaux and crime scene have lined the pockets of your boy plague over the years. i usually like geelong cup form but the idiot team behind oceanographer raced it last weekend (yes yes i know why) and its been crunched so no value there. Qewy and Grey Lion might pay $8 or $10 a place. not bad cabbage.

ill be at work all day so unless i get bored and bust out the centre bet account ill be but a spectator. go well lads, and pray for the return of normal saturdays when you don't have to wait in line to get a bet on because some asshole can't work the touchscreen.


Plague out.

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[PC14]

Morning Gents!

It's late, but my selections for the day:

1- talked myself into a deposit match with Sportsbet and have used a portion of it to grab the trifecta in the first. Actually had the first four runners but I'm not a first four punter.

2- 1, 11, 8
3- 3,9,11
4- 3,2
5- not a race for me
6- Sydney form here. 12,8,10. Don't mind Skylight Glow e/w if you're looking for a roughie
7- Oceanographer for me
8- 10, 13. Fabrizio has had a long prep. Muraqaba a good e/w bet as said above.
9- 13, 11, 1, 9
10- Egyptian Symbol is my best bet.

Multi - Demonstrate (Win) - Tarquin (Place) - Ravi (Place) - Egyptian Symbol (Win) - $10 outlay returns about $530

Good luck!

[pv4]

Oceanographer

[Jeterpool]

Oceanographer

You reckon?

[The Dunster]

Oceanographer

He wouldn't beat his oldman in a race and he retired 7 years ago.

It would be a massive shock if this horse got up. Not impossible but would need a lot of luck.

[PC14]

He wouldn't beat his oldman in a race and he retired 7 years ago.

It would be a massive shock if this horse got up. Not impossible but would need a lot of luck.

Reasons?

[pv4]

My tri - Big Orange, Hartnell, Jameka, Almandin, Our Ivanhowe and Oceanographer.

Close!

[The Dunster]

Hartnell couldn't stay the 2 miles - no surprises there he's a very over rated horse. He might run a St Ledger but that's as far as he can go these days.

Big Orange [my pick] looked gone with 1200 to go and had horses in front of him on the turn dropping out. Likes to lead but never allowed or able to get the run of the race.

Heartbreak City - had a heap of excuses and only just went down.

Almandin - fabulous run and looked the winner 800m out.

Lost money but think it was one of the better cups as a race in recent times.

[The Dunster]

Reasons?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_ALPiOdsg

His oldman was one of the greatest horses in history.

[q-money]

RIP

quaddie didn't even get to see a sign of life

[The Dunster]

Bookies might be too drunk to even show up for Oaks day. They have absolutely blitzed it.

[q-money]

Craig newitt can return to his home of the sea

[skippy]

What a ****wit of a day glad it's done and dusted.

Yankee rose a sure thing in the oaks?

[The Dunster]

What a ****wit of a day glad it's done and dusted.

Yankee rose a sure thing in the oaks?

Will need to go back 4 or 5 generations in her breeding to find any 2400m form. So she is going to be relying on class to get the job done.

A very good chance but not a sure thing. I'd take even money but think she's going to be shorter than that [ around $1.60 is my guess].

[PC14]

I don't see her getting beaten.

However, I have Almandin running into her, so will probably get done. My spring form is done and dusted.

I'll have a dabble tomorrow and maybe Saturday and then I am looking forward to a long spell in the paddock.

[q-money]

Sea the Sparkle in R1 tomorrow is incredibly over the odds at 8, snap that up now, i missed the 15's on offer

Few i like tomorrow, i.e. my old nemesis Takedown, Rock forthe Ladies, Exocet and Kentucky Miss. Takedown and Rock have to carry a bit more than usual but are quality units so hopefully can get the job done

Think i will be running a super multi around it, not junkie punting my way into oblivion like yesterday

With YR getting a sharp rise under WFA conditions I can see why they might target her this way towards staying races - but as Dunster said i'm not convinced she has it in her. Happy to be proven wrong though, it's a great story.

[Jetmaster]

i love donkey racing.
i don't like the melbourne cup for the following 2 reasons.

1. a few years back the secretary at my old work used to put a half unit on every horse but not tell anyone. then after the race she'd rummage through her bag and pull out the winning ticket. she only did it for the ego trip of 'picking the winner' and suckers at work fell for it every time (i used to hang with her younger brother who was the person putting the bets on for her). this is everything thats wrong with gambling. gambling is about making money. gambling is not about idiots getting the adulation of other idiots (thats what gymnastics is for).

2. dickheads who dress up to go to the ****ing cricketers or mary ellen for the race. tarts whacking a fascinator on their bonce thinking they are killing it sucking down shit champers wildly screaming like ****wits thinking their horse won not realising theres another ****ing lap to go. **** those people, and **** them trying to get a taxi at 5 in the arvo staggering around honeysuckle after not getting let in to another shit pub full of assholes in fascinators.



Well in Plague - in respect to said tarts and venues, why do all the events have to be heavily wimmin based, with "fashion shows", "hottest hooves" contests and jubbly bubbly?

Now if I staggered out a pub sports bar giggling like a fool carrying my shoes, sat down and pissed in the gutter, spewed and abused anyone who walked by the cops would have been called.

So hard being a middle aged, straight, white guy these days - lol!

[q-money]

Well in Plague - in respect to said tarts and venues, why do all the events have to be heavily wimmin based, with "fashion shows", "hottest hooves" contests and jubbly bubbly?

the creatures that inhabit the pub TAB are hardly going to get people through the door :rof:


sat down and pissed in the gutter, spewed and abused anyone who walked by

generally there is one rogue unit displaying this kind of behaviour every weekend at my local parimutuel venue regardless of gender or advertising campaging :rof:

that in mind i thought 7's coverage was pretty good yesterday, good balance between racing/tittys

[skippy]

Will need to go back 4 or 5 generations in her breeding to find any 2400m form. So she is going to be relying on class to get the job done.

A very good chance but not a sure thing. I'd take even money but think she's going to be shorter than that [ around $1.60 is my guess].

I think Harlow Gold E/W is a betterr bet than evens on Yankee, out of tavistock so we know it will be able to stay and wasn't too far off Prized Icon last start.

[plague]

there no way Yankee Rose is that much of a special right?
ill be looking for value here. Eleonora i reckon is a show and if you like roughie place bets Lamma Hilton will give you a better payout for a place that YR will for a win.
IM with the q-man on Sea the Sparkle. I fixed it at $7.50 its now shorter. i don't think it will get any better as being race 1 there won't be a lot of public money to bump the odds anywhere. only the smart money coming in for that race.

[plague]

Now if I staggered out a pub sports bar giggling like a fool carrying my shoes, sat down and pissed in the gutter, spewed and abused anyone who walked by the cops would have been called.


well i would have got your twitter handle and we'd probably now be best friends or something.

[plague]

Race 6 is like an episode of celebrity family feud where they kind of look familiar but you can't name one good show they have ever been in.
Arod, Hooked, Kenjorwood, Entirely Platinum, Clearly Innocent, Dan Zephyr. oh dear lord i can only assume the Party Boy Corey Worthington is riding one of these donkeys.

Back half of the field just gets shovelled straight onto the truck and off to the knackery yeah?

[leftrightout]

Clearly Innocent was amazing in the country championships so is very capable.

[skippy]

Clearly Innocent was amazing in the country championships so is very capable.

Dusted Music Magnate who went on to win a group 1 not long after.

[q-money]

Any thrill seekers out there taking Pilote D'essai and Data Point today?

[q-money]

Still get cold sweats about the magnate beating Knoydart at 67 by a nostril

[skippy]

Any thrill seekers out there taking Pilote D'essai and Data Point today?

Battle of the bookies favourites, if only the boogeyman was running as well.

[The Dunster]

Crown Oaks - I'm backing Penthouse Kitten. She's bred to run all day - how fast she does it is the only issue.

[q-money]

Sea the Sparkle getting absolutely crunched in here #praytooversgod

[q-money]

the rot begins

[leftrightout]

the rot begins

Was no where!

[q-money]

john allen with a not particularly ideal ride

[The Dunster]

Big money being tossed about for Harlow Gold - they obviously know something myself and the form guide don't. Yankee Rose is better than even money now. Obviously the wisdom of the Foz has caused her to drift in the market.

[skippy]

Big money being tossed about for Harlow Gold - they obviously know something myself and the form guide don't. Yankee Rose is better than even money now. Obviously the wisdom of the Foz has caused her to drift in the market.

Well **** me nobody saw that coming.

They must have seen my foz post yesterday backing Harlow E/W.

[q-money]

one of the best G1 rides you'll see. avdulla has been stinking of late but that was something special, brained them!

[plague]

y'all get on that Yankee Rose trash boyz?
yeeeeeeee-hahhhhhhhhh
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[q-money]

Not getting off the YR train just yet, today was a pattern that hasn't been seen since your Vo Rogue's etc. Old love Lasquetti Spirit is no Vo Rogue, but when was the last time you saw someone ping off in a 2500m race that early and stick the trip out? Good on Avdulla and his team for having a crack and running the rest into the ground. This is a horse that couldn't even place in a C1 at Kembla, up against some top notch blood today.

But the fastest horse is the one that wins. Talk track bias all you want but that's no bias. That's wining tactics and great bloody riding. Watch his hands.

I'm not even talking through my kick because I am busted after the last two days, but that was tremendous.

[The Dunster]

Not getting off the YR train just yet, today was a pattern that hasn't been seen since your Vo Rogue's etc. Old love Lasquetti Spirit is no Vo Rogue, but when was the last time you saw someone ping off in a 2500m race that early and stick the trip out? Good on Avdulla and his team for having a crack and running the rest into the ground. This is a horse that couldn't even place in a C1 at Kembla, up against some top notch blood today.

But the fastest horse is the one that wins. Talk track bias all you want but that's no bias. That's wining tactics and great bloody riding. Watch his hands.

I'm not even talking through my kick because I am busted after the last two days, but that was tremendous.

Yankee Rose is a miler. That's it. Like Sunline, the only place she can get further is at the Valley or possibly a Caulfield Cup where a few milers over the years have stolen the race - especially those lightly weighted. [Imposera, Cole Diesel, and Mannerism come to mind].
The only form from the 2016 Crown Oaks for me was Harlow Gold made a huge effort and 99/100 times would have won the race.

With respect to Lasquetti Spirit her preparation was superb. Slowly built up to 2400m form and entered the race with no doubts about her fitness or ability to stay the trip. The only question mark on her was that she's a one paced animal and not one capable of winning anything at 6f like a Vo Rogue or a Sunline - hence no big finish.

The 100/1 odds also got her the win because nobody will chase a 100/1 shot in a race - and by the time they got to the Clock tower and realized the situation it was simply too late.

Lasquetti Spirit will probably never win another race again let alone a Group 1. But who cares, it was one of the best wins I've seen in racing for a long time.

[plague]

Yeah I'm not ragging on YR i just found the odds insane and as Dunster put it had no real business being so heavily backed.

I got nothing back from yesterdays punt so onwards and upwards to Saturday lads.

[PC14]

A mate sent through a video of one of Lasquetti Spirit's runs at Kembla. Was three/four wide for most of the race, was headed by a couple of lengths by multiple horses on the bend and fought back to run 3rd (I think). From what I saw yesterday and the video, she is a genuine stayer in my eyes. She was fantastic and it was a great ride/tactics from Jockey and Trainer.

[The Dunster]

I got nothing back from yesterdays punt so onwards and upwards to Saturday lads.

Victory are paying $4 to beat SFC
Wellington $2.05 to beat Jets.

Got to be some value in that lot.

[plague]

It's ok every bet I had this weekend went through Atlanta beating the Bucs by more than 3.5.

[q-money]

Speaking of the NBA, best bet of mine at the moment is John Wall 10/11+ assists. One of the best players out there in an absolutely putrid team

[q-money]

just a few today:

canterbury R2: chassuere
flemington R3: francis of assisi
flemington R4: happy clapper e/w
flemington R7: endless drama
flemington R8: the quarterback
flemington R9: demonstrate

[q-money]

if you've got not much to do at the moment you could do worse than turning on Sky at the moment for the Breeders Cup Distaff, Songbird super short priced fave up against some top notch fillies, will be interesting to see if she gets let go today

[q-money]

that was pretty awesome, Beholder just getting the bob over Songbird by a whisker.

[q-money]

Well I got 2, lol

Took malaguerra on the tote at 9.50 as I couldn't live with myself if I didn't and he don dunzoed it. My wife was pleased

[q-money]

With California Chrome getting done over today surely Winx's Cox Plate run would have to be the highest rating performance of the year on turf. If she's not on top in the next listing it's rigged.

Highland Reel would have a claim as well, guess it helps when 400 metres of the track at Santa Ana is downhill :rof:

Found retired today as well along with Beholder, good crop of youngsters in a few years you'd imagine.

[skippy]

Another one bites the dust, Capitalist retired.

[q-money]

yeah i don't like it but when owners have the industry by the balls (literally and figuratively) it's always what's going to happen

being by Written Tycoon it was a foregone conclusion, easily one of the most profitable sires out there, think it's a 68% winners to runners ratio.

but one G1 win and they're gone. is 7 races really enough?

[PC14]

Had a chipped fetlock and would not have been back until after the Autumn.

Maybe premature but can understand the decision.

[The Dunster]

With California Chrome getting done over today surely Winx's Cox Plate run would have to be the highest rating performance of the year on turf. If she's not on top in the next listing it's rigged.

Highland Reel would have a claim as well, guess it helps when 400 metres of the track at Santa Ana is downhill :rof:

Found retired today as well along with Beholder, good crop of youngsters in a few years you'd imagine.

Winx Cox plate is supposedly rated at 133+ by Timeform.

This equals So Ya Think, Might and Power, and Gunsynd.

Pretty good company to be in for sure - especially when you consider Gunsynd is the horse that made the Cox Plate the No. 1 WFA race in Australia. Prior to that it was not even the most important race on the card.[the meet was referred to as Mooney Valley Cup day]. To lure the great Gunsynd to race in the Cox plate they increased the prizemoney by 50% in 1972, he won the race, made it the WFA Championship of Australia ... and the rest is history.

Timeform ratings are a great tool to promote ratings to the masses but I don't really read much into them other than a bit of fun.

[Bon]

Not exactly about the horses..
But can any of you punters recommend a particular online sports betting company to use? Contemplating opening an account (particularly before UFC205)..
I see the ads constantly for all the different ones, just wondering if there was one that any of you were particularly happy with, or gave good deals, easy to use, etc..

[q-money]

I roll with SB for the most part, I like the setup of the site and you can multi pretty much anything you want (i.e. sports into racing, presidential elections, the block, other nonsense). The lines are tight for sports but if you're a small time punter like most of us are (except Plague) you'll be right

The TAB has few upsides, i.e. all racing video but has a weird set of multi rules for sports and racing, and it's not particularly intuitive and it's a pain in the arse to see your pending bets

SB usually has a good deposit bonus as well, i'm probably saying they will have a UFC205 bonus if you deposit a decent wedge into it

[Bon]

I roll with SB for the most part, I like the setup of the site and you can multi pretty much anything you want. The lines are tight for sports but if you're a small time punter like most of us are (except Plague) you'll be right

The TAB has few upsides, i.e. all racing video but has a weird set of multi rules for sports, and it's not particularly intuitive and it's a pain in the arse to see your pending bets

SB usually has a good deposit bonus as well, i'm probably saying they will have a UFC205 bonus if you deposit a decent wedge into it

Yeah, I'm not looking to make insane bets to make my hawk millions (but that wouldnt be bad)..
Just put on some football multis, some random bets on the UFC, darts, etc

[skippy]

Not exactly about the horses..
But can any of you punters recommend a particular online sports betting company to use? Contemplating opening an account (particularly before UFC205)..
I see the ads constantly for all the different ones, just wondering if there was one that any of you were particularly happy with, or gave good deals, easy to use, etc..

Tab probably has the best app/website but shit odds.

Ladbrokes are ok with promos and boosted odds but when you start winning money they restrict your account. William Hill are very similar.

Crownbet are the one I use the most, when you sign up because legally they can't give you matches for promotions in NSW just email them or live chat hitting them up for some free bets they usually come through with the goods, but beware if you win off a free bet you have to roll it over 1.5 times to take your money.

Sportsbet I haven't used much but no issues so far.

[q-money]

all the corps will block you if you are a winning punter

luckily i've never had this problem as i am terrible

[plague]

Just be wary on sign up bonus promos and stuff as most don't apply to NSW residents (Baird and his no fun state).

We use Centrebet but it's merging with William Hill anyway. One of the boys uses (I think) Sportsbet which has a feature you can double down once your horse race has jumped if you like the spot you've settled (which is both hilarious and gambling suicide).

Also if you're trying to get started before the weekend check the rules on getting varified it might delay your ability to get on.

[plague]

all the corps will block you if you are a winning punter

luckily i've never had this problem as i am terrible

The 'bad beat stories' Foz thread is gonna be lit once we get it firing.

Hillary Clinton
#mymoneysgonewithher

[q-money]

my list

1. miami heat
2. boston celtics
3. knoydart
4. tashbeeh
5. palentino
6. awesome rock
7. hillary clinton

special lifetime achievement award: sooboog, pilote d'essai, exosphere

[leftrightout]

my list

1. miami heat
2. boston celtics
3. knoydart
4. tashbeeh
5. palentino
6. awesome rock
7. hillary clinton

special lifetime achievement award: sooboog, pilote d'essai, exosphere

Its Liverpool that always ruin me!
The reason they are running hot this year is that i leave them out now!

Also sportsbet is the go for me. Easiest to use, good for football multi's!
And the NSW free bet stuff doesn't really matter, i know plenty including myself who go their free bet on sign up, one as recently as this week.

[skippy]

Just be wary on sign up bonus promos and stuff as most don't apply to NSW residents (Baird and his no fun state).

We use Centrebet but it's merging with William Hill anyway. One of the boys uses (I think) Sportsbet which has a feature you can double down once your horse race has jumped if you like the spot you've settled (which is both hilarious and gambling suicide).

Also if you're trying to get started before the weekend check the rules on getting varified it might delay your ability to get on.

Nah they will let you sign up and take your money straight away, getting verified to take your money out is another story.

[Macca]

Does anyone here go even with their punting? Horses or sports, whatever. Go close to even or see it as a reachable goal with sufficient knowledge?

[skippy]

my list

1. miami heat
2. boston celtics
3. knoydart
4. tashbeeh
5. palentino
6. awesome rock
7. hillary clinton

special lifetime achievement award: sooboog, pilote d'essai, exosphere

Exosphere
Boban has cost me a fortune never caught him once and always rolled something I was confident on at odds.

[pv4]

Bon - sportsbet is where it's at, and where I made my squillions on Winx's Cox Plate run :cool:

[skippy]

Bon - sportsbet is where it's at, and where I made my squillions on Winx's Cox Plate run :cool:

Get on the 51-1? Thats why I signed up for them.

[q-money]

Does anyone here go even with their punting? Horses or sports, whatever. Go close to even or see it as a reachable goal with sufficient knowledge?

if you aren't spending at least 10+ hours a week doing form on horses forget breaking even imo. i am maybe close to even in the long term, but for the most part behind, sometimes worse than others. the bookie's dream.

my best runs on horses have always come when i've put the hard yards in on form and really limited what i get involved in. i like punting on the nags but that doesn't mean i'm necessarily good at it.

sportswise, where i go wrong is when i creep away from where i am best and can maintain a winning run - i.e. rugby league and basketball.

if i stay where i have an edge it generally keeps me above, but i'll roll that back into shit i like to watch and have a stab at, but where i'm uniformly terrible, i.e. soccer, ice hockey and baseball.

the best way to have a chance is to keep a tight rein on what you put in, manage your bank and don't try and chase back when you're in a losing run. cut your losses and regroup. easier said than done though.

also if you punt on the tote just make sure you pull your cash out and give it to your Mrs.

you might take a bad beat but at least she is happy :rof:

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Does anyone here go even with their punting? Horses or sports, whatever. Go close to even or see it as a reachable goal with sufficient knowledge?

I went a whole NFL season once with a properly researched system and was on fire. won good money pulled out a bunch for a new set of golf clubs then lost 4 figures on what I thought was the easiest bet of the year in the Super Bowl (the answer to my bad beats is always Peyton ****ING Manning).

It's the only time I'd ever felt sick gambling.

Since then I've won $8500 grand in one bet and lost $2000 on another ('sup Hillary?).

I know I'm in front as I'm still positive on my CB account from the day I started. I can go weeks without betting and in our punters club we pool our cash and do $100 a week with the proceeds going towards a trip away with the boys.

Overall with horses I'd have to say probably under including track days.

Casinos in def over.

It's the age old saying but always only bet what you are prepared to lose, because at some stage in your gambling career you will make yourself sick. Gambling has always taught me how to be disciplined, and it's 99% been fun.

That's why I've played pokies maybe 5 times in my life. I don't understand them and have no idea how anyone enjoys them.

[skippy]

Does anyone here go even with their punting? Horses or sports, whatever. Go close to even or see it as a reachable goal with sufficient knowledge?

There are very few punters in front in the long term, the system is made to lose with the amount of dodgy ****s out there and inside knowledge. I know a couple of guys that do it for a full time job and they punt on pretty much every race every day between Aus and NZ but the bank needed to ride out the bad days is in the big leagues.

I pretty much exclusively put on the horses as I love watching them run around, and am lucky to have 10 bets a week and am really only a $5 punter, usually spend about $20-$50 a week on the punt its just not worth it in the long run I would be in front due to some big wins.

Winx at $41-1 to go unbeaten in 2016 at $25 plus loading up on her to win the CP.
Trifecta in Melbourne Cup a couple of years ago plus Fiorente winning return over 2k.
Got the heads up on a horse called Moshulu earlier this year or late last year started at $41's and drifted to over $100 just before the jump, chipped at it at $41, $51, $61, $81 and $101 and rolled them.

Between these 3 big wins I would be in front over the last 10 years.

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yeah i always remember that Sean Bartholomew bloke running a proper gambling empire with loads of data people and all the best info and he used to work on a 2-3% profit margin. Granted he was betting in the hundreds of millions of dollars so it was a lucrative gig but man if that doesnt tell you how tight it is then nothing will.

Even the biggest casinos in the world operate on such small margins its not funny. its all in the volume of money that goes through the joints. no mug punter is ever way way up enough to make a living out of it, but to me its entertainment. if a day at the races is having a blast but losing $100 then it just cost me $100 for a great days entertainment.

i went to the Jets last week and tickets cost me over $50 and i was bored to shit.

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Knowing Macca personally, I know he'll be extremely diligent and calculated with his bets. Will be interesting to hear his progress.

Can 100% say when I cashed in on Winx, the winnings went straight into savings and untouchable by my sportsbet account because I know if I let it linger there, it was never hanging around for long :rof:

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Personally I punt on EPL/AL every now and then, plus the occasional hot tip horse.

The EPL/AL bets are more about keeping me interested rather than genuinely trying to rake coin in. I put a $5 multi bet on the AL every single week, picking the result of every game. Makes paying attention to the "Studs Up Cup" a bit easier most weeks :rof: but in multiple years of laying said multi down, I'm fairly sure it's gotten up once only :rof: the AL is a filthy league to bet on.

I've crunched the numbers several times on GazFish's bet-on-draws theory and still can't work out how they got up $$. I love the idea behind it but I'm yet to see a spreadsheet work out in the green if stuck to for every single round.

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Hot tip for a punt is throw some $$ on Manure to beat Arsenal tomorrow night. If there's two thing Arsene can't do, it's beat Jose or beat Manure at OT. This game is the double-whammy. Not even going to bother to watch the fxxxing thing.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Hot tip for a punt is throw some $$ on Manure to beat Arsenal tomorrow night. If there's two thing Arsene can't do, it's beat Jose or beat Manure at OT. This game is the double-whammy. Not even going to bother to watch the fxxxing thing.

Probably best that nobody stays up tomorrow night for this game...
Anybody that wants to watch it, should tune in next Saturday ;)

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Probably best that nobody stays up tomorrow night for this game...
Anybody that wants to watch it, should tune in next Saturday ;)

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--w7cp2KH3--/1426249382380738478.gif

[pv4]

Probably best that nobody stays up tomorrow night for this game...
Anybody that wants to watch it, should tune in next Saturday ;)

Hot tip - it's next Saturday :oops:

[q-money]

How you go Bon? My best for the day was a double with JJ on points and McGregor KO, easy money.

JJ decisions are the easiest money going around

[Macca]

That's why I've played pokies maybe 5 times in my life. I don't understand them and have no idea how anyone enjoys them.

Totally agree on the pokies, just don't see the appeal. Tax on the stupid imo.

Thanks for the responses, I might have to look into it. Not sure I follow anything closely enough right now that I'd be confident, would be hard going in EPL, A-League, Champion's League I reckon. Maybe you'd do alright looking outside of picking winners, going for minimum goals scored or some other stats.

[Bon]

How you go Bon? My best for the day was a double with JJ on points and McGregor KO, easy money.

JJ decisions are the easiest money going around

Yeah not too bad..
Pretty much just slung about a lot of little bets on obscure round/finish combos..
Bloody Woodley/Wonderboy fight ended my bigger multi though..
Decided to go with Sportsbet, everything seems alright on there so far. Will see how it goes.. Cheers for the advice..

[leftrightout]

Totally agree on the pokies, just don't see the appeal. Tax on the stupid imo.

Thanks for the responses, I might have to look into it. Not sure I follow anything closely enough right now that I'd be confident, would be hard going in EPL, A-League, Champion's League I reckon. Maybe you'd do alright looking outside of picking winners, going for minimum goals scored or some other stats.

I find betting on football a lot harder compared to other sports.
Most sports have a likely result of either team winning, football throws an extra opportunity to lose your money with a draw. And we all know how easily some big teams who should win throw points away to minnows.

AFL and Tennis are my go to's for multi betting, the favourites win a large majority of the time.

[pv4]

Now that I've got the week right :rof::oops:

SB offering $501 odds for Manure to beat Arsenal 6-1. Hop on fellas, generous odds if I've ever seen them.

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Now that I've got the week right :rof::oops:

SB offering $501 odds for Manure to beat Arsenal 6-1. Hop on fellas, generous odds if I've ever seen them.

we are knee deep in a multi that needs both Man U and the Arse to score into Liverpool winning, so 6-1 would be fantastic hashtagprayforplague

[leftrightout]

we are knee deep in a multi that needs both Man U and the Arse to score into Liverpool winning, so 6-1 would be fantastic hashtagprayforplague



Its Liverpool that always ruin me!
The reason they are running hot this year is that i leave them out now!

Ill be sure to leave them out of anything of mine for you this week... that's the kind of guy i am! :lulz::lulz::lulz::lulz:

[Wilso8948]

we are knee deep in a multi that needs both Man U and the Arse to score into Liverpool winning, so 6-1 would be fantastic hashtagprayforplague

Sorry. I've got both in a multi. You guys are officially ****ed.

[q-money]

abbreviated muck

rosehill r1: Lubiton
rosehill r2: duet - Cottage, Dagny, Rustic Melody, chuck a tenner on big rust, if the right one shows up it's left right goodnight
rosehill r3: Littleracketeer/Somebody in an exotic of some description
rosehill r4: The Bull/Hernes Oak/Montauk in another combination
rosehill r5: Press Report here - decent price on offer
rosehill r6: New Tipperary - has awful manners, will probably miss the jump, get distracted half way through and have to get absolutely punted to get home but will hopefully do it. avdulla seems to get the best out of it so backing here.
rosehill r7: hard to back Religify as the favourite but has the talent to get home. should be on speed today. see how it plays but have a look at Lunar Rise
rosehill r8: old mate Sir Plush could be decent here from Most Exalted, will back both to win
rosehill r9: absolute quaddie killer - Salamanzar down in class, Sonic Swish big chance with good jock. Take tons of numbers if you're playing

[plague]

Sorry. I've got both in a multi. You guys are officially ****ed.

Ahhhhhhh Liverpool, you never fail to disappoint.

Oh well.

We're still alive with badds.com in the golf. We got him at 28/1 to win but get a quarter payout if he finishes top 4.

Caaarrrnnn.

[leftrightout]

Ahhhhhhh Liverpool, you never fail to disappoint.

Oh well.

We're still alive with badds.com in the golf. We got him at 28/1 to win but get a quarter payout if he finishes top 4.

Caaarrrnnn.

Hate to say i told you so!

[pv4]

Perth paying 2.00 to beat CCM this week.

[leftrightout]

Perth paying 2.00 to beat CCM this week.

Thats as good a multi booster as you will find... good work!

[q-money]

few i like going around at warwick farm today

R1: was going to go after Almanzora but it's been scratched. Josh Parr should go close on Shudabeen, a jock in absolutely blazing form
R3: Brassy Belle off 2 seconds should get the chocolates today you'd think.
R5: Never Out was very good at Gosford a couple of weeks back, cruising home to win her maiden - expect lots of cash to come with the owners being a whole bunch of cricket blokes and named in honour of Phil Hughes - cheers for the heads up at the 7s at gossy Skip
R6: Flow should win this for T.Clark/Godolphin at 2.5

[Wilso8948]

Perth paying 2.00 to beat CCM this week.

Got them at $1.90 also thought it was too good to pass up. Shame I didn't take Juventus this morning either. Even the win/draw option was around the $1.50 mark

[pv4]

Perth paying 2.00 to beat CCM this week.

:oops:

[plague]

Giving the donkeys a miss this weekend (at least until we get sick of the Jets at the boozer this arv).

We are on an outrageous multi that needs one more NHL game to get up then both Melbourne teams to win.

Our hockey expert has been cleaning up the past few weeks we are letting him ride.

[q-money]

went out to canterbury last night, great setup, food trucks, $5 booze - pity i couldn't back a winner to save myself but :rof:

had a 13 leg NBA player prop multi two days back that missed by a total of 2 points, still reeling

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had a 13 leg NBA player prop multi two days back that missed by a total of 2 points, still reeling

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[q-money]

My arch nemesis and now great friend Takedown gets the biscuits in the Winterbottom with TC on board! Carn

[plague]

We are on an outrageous multi that needs one more NHL game to get up then both Melbourne teams to win.


Update:
Hockey got up, Jets did their thang.
All riding on City now.
We just got offered 50% of the total to cash out. Would be an excellent return.

Punters club rightfully letting it ride.

Caaarrrnnn.

[q-money]

Real Steel with Ryan Moore in the Japan Cup

[plague]

Update:
Hockey got up, Jets did their thang.
All riding on City now.
We just got offered 50% of the total to cash out. Would be an excellent return.

Punters club rightfully letting it ride.

Caaarrrnnn.

update:
City 1-0 up. Cashout figure now 80% of total winning.

pop quiz asshole, what would you do? WHAT WOULD YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[q-money]

cashout is for the weak

quaddie cashout is the worst as well, ruins the pools for everyone else

that being said i don't know what your 80% is lol

kitasan black was absolutely imperious today in the Japan Cup, rated beautifully