General Horse Racing Thread

[q-money]

it would be great if it actually was the 10 best sprinters in the world, but it's just more of the same really. restrictive quarantine rules and the fact that the rest of the world probably doesn't care about sprinters as much as we do might be the issue. i'm more excited the st. leger is back.

i think randwick gets a pretty bad rap. skip and i were there for the QEII and set up down the end. booze is cheap, boobs are plentiful. just needs a screen out in the front yard actually playing the races

[skippy]

i think randwick gets a pretty bad rap. skip and i were there for the QEII and set up down the end. booze is cheap, boobs are plentiful. just needs a screen out in the front yard actually playing the races

We will also be doing it again for the epsom if anyone is keen.

[plague]

i think randwick gets a pretty bad rap. skip and i were there for the QEII and set up down the end. booze is cheap, boobs are plentiful. just needs a screen out in the front yard actually playing the races

Course is nice (haven't been since new grandstands got done), is accessible (a miracle for Sydney) and the bookies were always good (I met Kate Waterhouse in the betting ring one day I couldn't talk oh my god she is a beautiful human being).


Sorry.

But yeah most of the crowd are wankers and the security is a joke. We got kicked out once because a very drunk girl tripped up the stairs (100m away) and we had a giggle to ourselves. Seccos were over straight away and turfed us because 'she might have a boyfriend who might have heard us laugh then it might cause trouble'.
The drunk girl didn't get kicked out.

Regardless, **** Sydney races.

Although Randwick does pay proper respect to the mighty Flying Spur so yeah I'll give it a pass.

[The Dunster]

it would be great if it actually was the 10 best sprinters in the world, but it's just more of the same really. restrictive quarantine rules and the fact that the rest of the world probably doesn't care about sprinters as much as we do might be the issue. i'm more excited the st. leger is back.

i think randwick gets a pretty bad rap. skip and i were there for the QEII and set up down the end. booze is cheap, boobs are plentiful. just needs a screen out in the front yard actually playing the races

https://i.imgflip.com/1ukkni.jpg

[q-money]

just booked Hong Kong International Races for the 10th of dec, got return airfares for me and the misso for 1700 through qantas

get around it

[plague]

Memsie looks like fun but the Foz gave the general public Vega Magic and the public duly responded.

[q-money]

2.4 no thanks

[q-money]

2.4 no thanks

how dumb am i

[q-money]

Orright: victoria derby plays?

Ace High was ridden a peach today by angland even though he whacked fark out of it, Main Stage was great today - as was Cliffs Edge.

some tough horses, but whether there's real superstars this year, the jury is out

[skippy]

How's the lads getting both Melbourne and Sydney quaddie up yesterday.

Sydney was $20 for $25 return
Melbourne was $20 for $640 return

100% of Melbourne quaddies was 18.5k

[leftrightout]

Thoughts on the Everest this weekend? Anyone care to share?

[skippy]

To be honest I have no idea how the race is going to unfold.

There is a stack of speed up front but if they go too hard could set it up for the Grey Flash to run over the top of them which they wont want.

I am on Redkirk and Vega Magic at close to $30's so will be happy to sit and watch.

[The Dunster]

I'm actually more interested to see how Bonneval goes today than how the The Everest pans out.
From what I've seen so far Bonneval might be the best Kiwi filly/mare I've seen since Horlicks.
It's a shame they are aiming her at the Caulfield Cup though because I think she'd make the Cox Plate a lot more interesting.

[q-money]

brave smash e/w - will tag onto the hot speed and the others will fall away and he'll bradbury into a place

left field: English to get the gun run and win by 3L

[The Dunster]

I'd be very surprised if English got up to win today.
I would not be surprised though to see She Will Reign get the money.

Warning: Current KOTH Wooden Spoon Holder.

[PC14]

Watched Johannes Vermeer whilst scoring at cricket. Missed an over but got the thing at $13 for the Caulfield Cup, before they got back to scale and the fixed price market changed.

What an impressive first up run in Aus.

[q-money]

brave smash e/w - will tag onto the hot speed and the others will fall away and he'll bradbury into a place

guess who didn't take his own advice, and guess who didn't take tosen stardom...there is not enough rope in the world

[The Dunster]

guess who didn't take his own advice, and guess who didn't take tosen stardom...there is not enough rope in the world

Yes - you have been talking him up for a long time.

23.52 for the last 400m carrying 57kg and sitting wide most of the race as well. On his day he's top class.

Would they have a shot at the Caulfield Cup with him ? Mile form is very good for that race.

[q-money]

going to the cox plate

better chance of a payoff with the likelihood of a tiny field as compared to a caulfield cup which they already have Admire Deus running in

i'm on for a packet on AD for the cups double into a winx cox plate. reckon i can probably stop that train as well

[PC14]

i'm on for a packet on AD for the cups double into a winx cox plate. reckon i can probably stop that train as well

Are you ok?

[skippy]

Are you ok?

Pretty sure he is dead, if not he should be.

[leftrightout]

Are you ok?

Yeah... wow!

[pv4]

Pretty sure he is dead, if not he should be.

Genuinely had to double take who you were talking about for a sec :oops:

[skippy]

Genuinely had to double take who you were talking about for a sec :oops:

haha yeah was aimed at Q

[q-money]

i'm still alive, barely

[leftrightout]

Anyone else going to witness the great one win her 3rd Cox Plate this weekend?

I cannot wait!

[q-money]

would love to but already doing HKIR so the mrs isn't interested

have a mate who has been let off the leash for the derby/cup double, i will be surprised if he makes it back alive

[leftrightout]

would love to but already doing HKIR so the mrs isn't interested

have a mate who has been let off the leash for the derby/cup double, i will be surprised if he makes it back alive

I have been to both Derby Day and Cup Day. Derby Day is far superior racing-wise, as we all know, but is also a far better day out.

[The Dunster]

Is the Cox plate barrier draw tomorrow ? As in 24/10/2017 ?

[skippy]

Is the Cox plate barrier draw tomorrow ? As in 24/10/2017 ?

In answer yes it was tomorrow at the time of the question, barrier draw this morning field of 9 but it doesn't matter where any of them are drawn.

Winx to clean up and my 40-50 futures bets to come in!!

[q-money]

i'd like to welcome skipper's new east wing to the world

strange day down there yesterday, looked for all money that the rails were gawn first two races, then it was rails on fire all day

big tick to ryan maloney on Eptimum for toby edmonds, pulled their pants down

Blake Shinn rode out of his skin. what a performance.

what more do you say about winx? track record, three in a row off a decent clip. bowman awful all day but got it absolutely perfect in the big dance

[q-money]

also 2.80 for Kitasan Black in a rain affected Tenno Sho (R11 - Tokyo) looks very decent to me.

Sciacchetra at 7.60 to run a hole should get snapped up

what a field

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNCkwA-V4AAYBga.jpg

[The Dunster]

what more do you say about winx? track record, three in a row off a decent clip. bowman awful all day but got it absolutely perfect in the big dance

It was a great effort by Winx - She did not look happy in the going though - track was very firm as the time confirmed. If the track had a little more give in it the time would have been slightly slower but she would have won by 5 lengths or so.

Humidor didn't surprise me yesterday - he's the best horse over 2400m in the country and by a very clear margin as well. Forget his effort in the Caulfield Cup - it's a race for milers not 2400m and beyond horses.

If his mind is on the job then I cannot see anything troubling him on Melbourne Cup day. His breeding alone is pretty much perfect - shame they had to cut him.

[q-money]

put up 3.50 for Kitasan Black in the end...one of the toughest wins you will ever see. what a horse

[plague]

so anyway theres some value in Nakeeta i reakon.

[leftrightout]

So tomorrow is the day where everyone becomes an expert in horse racing.... i should put that in WGMG!
I am going for value as any bastard can win!

[skippy]

So tomorrow is the day where everyone becomes an expert in horse racing.... i should put that in WGMG!
I am going for value as any bastard can win!

Got on marshmellow at $18's other than some trifectas and 1st 4's will be my only bet in the race.

[The Dunster]

I've lost a lot of money over the years on the Melbourne Cup.

The winners for me have been: Think Big, Gold and Black, and Jezabeel.

Had some seriously big losses on Natski and Kingston Town.

This year will be no different.

[WolfMan]

Yeh, I avoid it like the plague (sorry pal)

Couldn't pick it in a pink fit

[plague]

Yeh, I avoid it like the plague (sorry pal)


totally understandable.

[pv4]

Gallante it is

[q-money]

boom time/marmelo boxed

[pv4]

In the sweeps I go in every year, I got drawn Marmelo, Ventura Storm & Tiberian. I've always had a winner in the sweeps, every single year. So one of those bad boys is winning, apparently.

[WolfMan]

In the sweeps I go in every year, I got drawn Marmelo, Ventura Storm & Tiberian. I've always had a winner in the sweeps, every single year. So one of those bad boys is winning, apparently.

Wonderful news. I loaded up* on Tiberian before leaving the house for work this morning.

*load up = $5 e/w lolz

[plague]

In the sweeps I go in every year, I got drawn Marmelo, Ventura Storm & Tiberian. I've always had a winner in the sweeps, every single year. So one of those bad boys is winning, apparently.

geez mate a ‘spoiler alert’ would been appreciated.

[Bon]

Apparently I've picked up Johannes Vermeer in the sweeps..
Is that a good or bad thing? I don't know anything about the racing..

[skippy]

Apparently I've picked up Johannes Vermeer in the sweeps..
Is that a good or bad thing? I don't know anything about the racing..

About as good as any, good turn of foot if he can run the distance might gap the rest of them.

[plague]

Apparently I've picked up Johannes Vermeer in the sweeps..
Is that a good or bad thing? I don't know anything about the racing..

It’s got every chance to win.
But it probably won’t.

Welcome to horse racing, enjoy your stay.

[Bon]

It’s got every chance to win.
But it probably won’t.

Welcome to horse racing, enjoy your stay.

Cheers for the encouragement..

For anyone else who doesn't have a tv in their office, it is streaming live on 7..
https://7live.com.au/

[pv4]

In the sweeps I go in every year, I got drawn Marmelo, Ventura Storm & Tiberian. I've always had a winner in the sweeps, every single year. So one of those bad boys is winning, apparently.

:oops:

[plague]

Cheers for the encouragement..


You gotta admit I was right tho yeah?

[Bon]

You gotta admit I was right tho yeah?

Yeah true..
I ended up chucking a box trifecta on and just missing out due to Max bloody Dynamite..

[skippy]

About as good as any, good turn of foot if he can run the distance might gap the rest of them.

Well I was close to getting it right, after you asked about it I put some money on myself sorry for your loss.

[The Dunster]

I think they need to forget about tradition and make the Melbourne Cup Weight For Age. The handicap conditions drives away too many top quality local and overseas horses.

[plague]

Attn: Dunster

Ace High $41 to win 2018 Melb cup.

[q-money]

Can't believe Melbourne blokes were potting the Sydney form in the lead into the Derby

The last two runs he had were as hard as nails and he had a beautiful set-up. If we don't get another slop-filled autumn he will be winning some great races.

[plague]

I think they need to forget about tradition and make the Melbourne Cup Weight For Age. The handicap conditions drives away too many top quality local and overseas horses.

i couldnt stop thinking about this all weekend.

if they ever did that it would prob mean less overseas horses right?
who is gonna ship a decent 4 year old over here to try and beat the weights?
i actually think it would then make people more aware of the horses that are a chance (and able to track the form) and 'maybe' create even more interest in the race?
i mean who is the last o/s horse that really excited the general public?


or am i approaching this wrong?

[q-money]

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/rowley/best-horse-in-the-world-how-ratings-can-help-to-evaluate-21112017

i really enjoyed this article, a sane assessment of who "da best horse in da world" really is and why the WBRR system is kinda stupid

=

[q-money]

Exultant is worth a stab early doors for the HK Derby, plagueos. Didn’t beat much today but has what it takes.

Insanely jealous hopefully the Mrs can let me off the leash

[q-money]

Winx runs second in the Longines ratings again - hopefully she runs them into the ground at Ascot this year and we can put this stupid ranking system to bed forever

interestingly, Enable not higher considering that the Arc was the highest rating race of the year

what surprises me the most is that Kitasan Black wasn't rated higher - the Tenno Sho double, the first in good conditions then the second in the slop were two of the best performances i've seen in the last few years

[plague]

Hong Kong bound tomorrow lads (currently shitfaced at a hotel bar in mascot). Will report back from Happy Valley and Derby Day from Sha Tin.

hashtagprayforplague

[q-money]

get at it!

Exultant

[plague]

Derby Day is here. Hopped a cab over because the driver was face deep in the form guide.

He lost his shit when he heard us backing Exultant. Bloke was a ledge. This racecourse is magic.

[plague]

and the first race was a 100/1 roughie.

I love gambling.

[skippy]

and the first race was a 100/1 roughie.

I love gambling.

My boy Southern legend gets up at $17's in r3 thanks for coming

[plague]

My boy Southern legend gets up at $17's in r3 thanks for coming

We were on the grey. Got done on the bob

[plague]

Zac Purton and the Magic Man filling our pockets caaaarrrrnnnn

[plague]

3 in a row heading into the big one. Your boy Plague is on fire.

[q-money]

exultant needs longer

you still alive plagueos? best punting racecourse on the planet

[plague]

Just about to head home.
Need a few days to process what the hell happened.

But yeah, truly an epic event.

[plague]

and Purton was riding like garbage all day.

Exultant was clearly the best horse but was so wide on the turn it had no chance. Ran it out though.

Few of the boys had the winner. Thing had never won anything over 1400 but the boys dubbed it Hong Kong Winx and loaded up.

[The Dunster]

Attention Q-money and Skippy - What's the latest on your horse ? How is he going and when will he be on the track ?

[q-money]

it's a slug i think

got gelded, has been mucking around in the paddock, busted its head in the stalls the other day and will be tipped out for another while

think it did a 37 closing 600 in an 800m bit of trackwork. which is alright but would like to see what it does in a proper trial

my mother just bought into the gai horse that mirunners did by not a single doubt, looks decent

[The Dunster]

Connections have just announced that Winx will be staying in Australia - there will be no overseas campaign for her.

Great news.

[skippy]

Connections have just announced that Winx will be staying in Australia - there will be no overseas campaign for her.

Great news.

Smart, **** em!

[q-money]

right on, the planes fly both ways as moods once said

dunster - who gets to root her first?

[skippy]

right on, the planes fly both ways as moods once said

dunster - who gets to root her first?

Get so you think to do the job

[q-money]

what still gets me is that people think she is not a truly top class horse because of the opposition she runs against

winx never had a pacemaker, and runs consistent sectional times, with her closing 600 better than the G1 sprinters on the day

has never shirked a challenge - and as much as she gives me the shits and ruins every market she is the finest horse i've ever seen go around in the flesh

imagine putting her on a plane and she gets travel sickness and dies, you'd dead set top yourself

jameka never recovered from a trip to melbourne ffs

i know people look at black cav but it almost did her in too - choisir was a deadset freak and tougher than old boots

[PC14]

D'Argento confirmed for the Doncaster, with Corey Brown riding at 49kg.

Some quality horses in it. Should be a good race.

[The Dunster]

right on, the planes fly both ways as moods once said

dunster - who gets to root her first?

Highland Reel would be my choice.

[q-money]

D'Argento confirmed for the Doncaster, with Corey Brown riding at 49kg.
brown can ride 49 but the horse may as well be carrying 49 million kg with him on it

[q-money]

the q-stumpers e/w

stratum charge
weather with you
crack me up

[skippy]

Attention Q-money and Skippy - What's the latest on your horse ? How is he going and when will he be on the track ?

Had a trial this morning, bombed the start and came 3rd to a squillion dollar written tycoon colt, actually looked half decent.

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Apr10&VenueCode=MTY5MDAw&RaceNumber=10&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=FullReplay

[The Dunster]

Had a trial this morning, bombed the start and came 3rd to a squillion dollar written tycoon colt, actually looked half decent.

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Apr10&VenueCode=MTY5MDAw&RaceNumber=10&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=FullReplay

His other trials were good as well. He will win a race somewhere. He got to the line very nicely and looked to have a bit in reserve as well.

[q-money]

ran through the line pretty well i thought. maybe he's not such a spud after all :rof:

[skippy]

His other trials were good as well. He will win a race somewhere. He got to the line very nicely and looked to have a bit in reserve as well.

Comments from the jockey afterwards, reckons he went did good relaxed after being scrubbed up a bit, settled in nicely, got off the rails and wasn't afraid to hit the gap rates him as a 14-1600 metre horse.

[The Dunster]

Comments from the jockey afterwards, reckons he went did good relaxed after being scrubbed up a bit, settled in nicely, got off the rails and wasn't afraid to hit the gap rates him as a 14-1600 metre horse.

I'd be a little bit excited if I owned him. Reckon you blokes have done well.

[skippy]

I'd be a little bit excited if I owned him. Reckon you blokes have done well.

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Apr24&VenueCode=MjUwODkxMg==&RaceNumber=9&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Latest trial this morning, think they are looking at running him in a couple of weeks.

[q-money]

our boy Sagz runs R3 at port mac today

4kg down in the weights to the toppy who is very decent, should run a hole at least. keen

[The Dunster]

our boy Sagz runs R3 at port mac today

4kg down in the weights to the toppy who is very decent, should run a hole at least. keen

He didn't look happy did he Q and Skip ? The wet conditions / slow track might not have been to his liking.

I see he's nominated for Taree on Friday 1st June. Hopefully he gets some firmer ground this time to show his stuff.

https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/taree-20180601/2yo-showcase-handicap-race-8

[q-money]

knuckled at the start i think, then got off the bit and lost his way but bullock got him switched back on round the bend. i thought he came home pretty well considering where he was at the start, and once he remembered what he was doing - i reckon he needs longer, 1200 probably isn't his go.

jock reckons the same - think they're trying to get him out over the mile by the end of the prep

i also think they're trying to break his maiden out in the sticks to avoid the ridiculous weight you get if you win at the provs (if he wins)

i'm much more confident in him now after seeing that in really unfavourable ground up there

[The Dunster]

knuckled at the start i think, then got off the bit and lost his way but bullock got him switched back on round the bend. i thought he came home pretty well considering where he was at the start, and once he remembered what he was doing - i reckon he needs longer, 1200 probably isn't his go.

jock reckons the same - think they're trying to get him out over the mile by the end of the prep

i also think they're trying to break his maiden out in the sticks to avoid the ridiculous weight you get if you win at the provs (if he wins)

i'm much more confident in him now after seeing that in really unfavourable ground up there

2nd place. Good effort. Can't wait to see him on firmer ground over more distance - He will look like a different horse over the mile.

He had no luck in this race - but holy shit was he flying when he hit the line.
If he can switch off / relax I think he can maybe even get beyond the mile.


http://mediarnsw.skyracing.com.au/Race_Replay/2018/06/20180601TAER01_V.mp4

[q-money]

hey duns

our man is getting up over the 1500 at Port Mac this sunday

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2018Jun17,NSW,Port%20Macquari e

carrying 58.5 as a 2yo in an Open maiden ffs. as Skip said if someone can figure out the handicapping system in this state i'd love to hear it

up against some real walkers as well, if we can get him to jump we're right in this

[The Dunster]

hey duns

our man is getting up over the 1500 at Port Mac this sunday

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2018Jun17,NSW,Port%20Macquari e

carrying 58.5 as a 2yo in an Open maiden ffs. as Skip said if someone can figure out the handicapping system in this state i'd love to hear it

up against some real walkers as well, if we can get him to jump we're right in this

I thought he did ok given the circumstances.

Slow track, no early pace on in the race and an absolutely woeful ride from the jockey.

Unsuitably run race but the jockey needed to have him closer to be any chance of winning.

From where the jockey had him situated he'd have needed to be a superstar to have won especially with that bullshit amount of weight on him.

[q-money]

wasn't great, wouldn't mind seeing him over the same distance again before i really pass judgement.

a muddling affair all round.

hopefully we get a bit of weight off next start as well.

[The Dunster]

I was a bit bored so I decided to enter Skip and Q's horse into the Thoroughbred Database. For some reason he wasn't listed yet.

https://www.pedigreequery.com/saganaki3

I came up with a Dosage index of 3 and a Centre of Distribution of 0.75.

In plain english this means Saganaki has three times as much speed as he does stamina in his pedigree.
His Centre of Distribution suggests he's going to be at his best between 1500-1900m once mature.

However such measurements are not conclusive.

Le Romain as an example has a DI of 2.27 and a CD of 0.56 suggesting he's less brilliant in shorter distances and good for 1900-2000m races.
Winx has a DI of 3.8 and a CD of 1.08 meaning she's got more speed but less stamina than both Le Romain and Saganaki.

Ideally, training comes into it as does the horses ability to endure the training. Black Caviar as an example could have won a Cox Plate if they set her for it based on breeding and 600m sectionals.

Winx on the other hand would probably have more chance winning the Everest than she would a Melbourne Cup.

Redzel who did win the Everest has a DI of 1.0 and a CD of Zero. Meaning his breeding suggests he's more than capable of running out 2400m - so a Cox Plate would not be out of the question either.

[q-money]

I was a bit bored so I decided to enter Skip and Q's horse into the Thoroughbred Database. For some reason he wasn't listed yet.

https://www.pedigreequery.com/saganaki3

I came up with a Dosage index of 3 and a Centre of Distribution of 0.75.

In plain english this means Saganaki has three times as much speed as he does stamina in his pedigree.
His Centre of Distribution suggests he's going to be at his best between 1500-1900m once mature.

However such measurements are not conclusive.

Le Romain as an example has a DI of 2.27 and a CD of 0.56 suggesting he's less brilliant in shorter distances and good for 1900-2000m races.
Winx has a DI of 3.8 and a CD of 1.08 meaning she's got more speed but less stamina than both Le Romain and Saganaki.

Ideally, training comes into it as does the horses ability to endure the training. Black Caviar as an example could have won a Cox Plate if they set her for it based on breeding and 600m sectionals.

Winx on the other hand would probably have more chance winning the Everest than she would a Melbourne Cup.

Redzel who did win the Everest has a DI of 1.0 and a CD of Zero. Meaning his breeding suggests he's more than capable of running out 2400m - so a Cox Plate would not be out of the question either.

ah that's awesome thanks mate

i read somewhere about a guy who is big on dosage for Derbies - has an amazing strikerate, 80% or something outrageous for kentucky, japan, australia etc

will go have a dive through it

also pretty stoked that the blue boys are running Kementari up against Winx this weekend, will be an absolute ripper if they both go to war

[q-money]

have to declare my love for Comin Through again, mick walker doesn’t leave much out there god bless him

[plague]

You know spring is coming because Tom Melbourne finished 2nd on Saturday.


Let's goooooooooooooooooo

[q-money]

you going to anything this year plagueos?

[The Dunster]

What are peoples thoughts on all the bullshit commentary from animal lib types about Chautauqua.

For those that don't know horses are a flight animal which essentially means when they sense danger or are spooked they run. The opening of the gates / barrier is something that will activate this behaviour.

The fact that Chautauqua is actually staying in the gates suggest that he doesn't feel threatened or in danger and as such he's staying put.
These dickheads who are coming out saying he has a problem are absolutely clueless when once he does leave the barrier and wants to run he can pretty much chase down the majority of horses even after giving them several seconds start.

The solution for Chautauqua is easy - scare the shit out of him in the barrier so he once again associates being in the barriers as a bad situation he needs to escape from fast and the problem will be solved. I see no evidence to suggest he's not interested in racing / running.

I love horses but they are as dumb as a box of rocks and the shit you hear from a lot of commentators and even trainers about them is little more than marketing hype.

[q-money]

buddha and I hitting the Epsom this weekend, any of you degens making your way down?

plague?

[plague]

buddha and I hitting the Epsom this weekend, any of you degens making your way down?

plague?

Doing Everest.
Hate Sydney race days, but it's been a minute, maybe things have improved.

[plague]

you can get US Navy Flag about 20/1(w) and 5/1(p) at the moment.

[q-money]

Doing Everest.
Hate Sydney race days, but it's been a minute, maybe things have improved.

lol if you hate sydney race days, you'll hate the everest even more

[plague]

lol if you hate sydney race days, you'll hate the everest even more

I go to Jets games mate, I'm well versed in hate.


Yeah look to be fair Sydney in general is just an utter shithole so nowhere in that postcode will make me happy.

But I'm on a plane pretty much straight after for a week on the Gold Coast so the pain will quickly wash off.

[q-money]

too good hartnell + h bowman, all the other jocks were wasted biscuits and the H man wins it with a sit and steer job without having to waste down to an unrideable weight

also makes me sick that i tipped up jungle cat and hartnell across the last two weeks...and had the sum total of about $10 on both of them ffs

then went to have 20 the place on tosen basil to place and miss the jump #thegreatgame

[plague]

Sportsbet is offering $26 for Tom Melbourne to win ANY group 1 this spring in Sydney or Melb.

Am expecting certain foz regulars to fall for this.

[q-money]

Enable just clinging on to win the Arc, some run from Sea of Class to just miss

Wish everyone could just drop the stupid dick measuring contest, both are freak horses, Winx ran the hands off the clock on Saturday and Enable is only going to get better as she matures.

[plague]

Q-man do you think they'll run Avilius in the Cox Plate (as rumoured) and fo you think it can give Winx a run?

Sense says no, but geez I like the balls on James Cummings if he tries.

[The Dunster]

Q-man do you think they'll run Avilius in the Cox Plate (as rumoured) and fo you think it can give Winx a run?

Sense says no, but geez I like the balls on James Cummings if he tries.

Avilius has been taken out of the Caulfield Cup and is being entered into the Cox Plate instead as prep for the Melbourne Cup.

https://www.racing.com/news/2018-10-09/news-avilius-ruled-out-of-caulfield-cup

Absolutely no chance of beating Winx - just in it to get the horse fit and avoid any weight penalties that would come with a victory in the Caulfield Cup.

[plague]

Avilius has been taken out of the Caulfield Cup and is being entered into the Cox Plate instead as prep for the Melbourne Cup.

https://www.racing.com/news/2018-10-09/news-avilius-ruled-out-of-caulfield-cup

Absolutely no chance of beating Winx - just in it to get the horse fit and avoid any weight penalties that would come with a victory in the Caulfield Cup.

Didnt Gai Waterhouse use the same strategy with Fiorente a few years back?

I remember putting my it on my list of 10,000 reasons why I hate Gai Waterhouse.

[q-money]

Avilius is a pretty decent nag, supremely well trained as well, watch what happens whenever Glyn drops his hands on it near the line lol...it just stops. will make a pony club girl very happy one day

i don't reckon it is much of a chance in the cup but i deadset have no idea about stayers anymore. could do worse than just bracket every williams runner and have a few bob on the long shots

also saw a ripper tweet re what g.pollett said on this week's rant re glyn's ride v bowman's ride



Pollett on the Rant: Bowman costs punters millions of dollars (Ranier) and Glyn (Avilius) saves people millions of dollars and one person gets off and the other gets 11 meetings, it's wrong." ��

[q-money]

had a rough day yesterday but gee whiz some eyecatchers

benbatl serious horse, sat on a high speed and just hammered away on the turn, brilliant run

autumn sun wow, huge engine and just rolls through the gears - a special horse

wouldn't kill them to put some pace on in the everest - redzel never challenged and just rolled on. nobody wanted to have a crack, again

$8 an absolute gift - wish i didn't grey myself up looking everywhere else but the obvious...on pace, snitzel, wet track....Redzel/TA the most clear cut exacta of the day, that's puntin' though

[The Dunster]

Damien Oliver has said that ACE HIGH is lazy. You can't get a better endorsement for a Caulfield Cup.
In saying that The Cliffsofmoher and Best Solution look top class and are carrying no weight considering their overseas form.

[q-money]

what do you reckon of the jockey change Dunster? play a factor for you?

[The Dunster]

what do you reckon of the jockey change Dunster? play a factor for you?

Not really. My biggest issue with the Caulfield Cup is that far too many milers get good results in it if drawn well. Which makes it a very difficult race to pick if you only look at 2400m form.

I'll probably follow the money and go with the best backed horse on the day.

[PC14]

Best Solution not penalised for Melbourne Cup. Keeps 57.5kg. Interesting decision.

Also, Dato Tan Chin Nam has passed.

[The Dunster]

Best Solution not penalised for Melbourne Cup. Keeps 57.5kg. Interesting decision.

Also, Dato Tan Chin Nam has passed.

They probably wouldn't run him if he copped the extra weight. With 57.5kg I don't think he will have much trouble winning the cup.

[plague]

So filthy I'm not at Mooney Valley today.

[q-money]

best horse i've ever seen and probably ever will.

and now if she'd politely just F*CK OFF and let us bet in all the best G1s again that would be great

[PC14]

best horse i've ever seen and probably ever will.

Agree, best I've seen. Imagine though, if we see one better. I really hope we do but will not be disappointed if we don't.

Derby Day this weekend. Best day of racing....and I'm lucky enough to be going.

[q-money]

our lad Saganaki runs at Scone in R3 over the 1300

hasn't trialled all that well and has gets the blinkers back on, wider track at Scone might mean he has the choice of staying out of the ruck as he seems to get himself into a bit of bother at the start/having a look around

will be interesting to see how he's come back under race conditions, think you can get 11/2.9 at the moment. might have a small stab the place

[q-money]

standard from the big unit...settles a long way back and gets going over the last 600 - hit the line pretty well, will be better for the run

just seems to be a slave to the pattern at the moment, if they can get him in striking distance he might have a chance over the mile if there's some pace in the race

[The Dunster]

standard from the big unit...settles a long way back and gets going over the last 600 - hit the line pretty well, will be better for the run

just seems to be a slave to the pattern at the moment, if they can get him in striking distance he might have a chance over the mile if there's some pace in the race

He ran from the ten barrier in a 12 horse race Q. The two horses drawn wider finished 3.6 lengths and 8 Lengths behind your horse.
In saying that though, it wasn't as promising as some of his earlier runs. I see he's nominated for Magic Millions Guineas in January over 1400m but he'll have to show a lot more to get a start.

Video link below for anyone wanting to have a look.


http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Nov19&VenueCode=MjI4NzQ0MA==&RaceNumber=3&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

[plague]

Q-man, are you awake yet? its almost spring and im looking at long shot bets for the Cox Plate.
talk to me.


Kenedna at w.26/p.7.50 is tasty. the favs are way too short.

[skippy]

Humidor if he is at his best could give it a shake

[Buddha]

Lys Gracieux pls and thank you.

[plague]

What a treat it was to see the Magic Man back in Sydney riding winners.

Also, a horse going bananas, throwing its rider in track work and going on a 5km freak out, then shaking it off to set a record time in our nation's greatest race.

Proper nonsense, love it.

[Buddha]

What a treat it was to see the Magic Man back in Sydney riding winners.

Also, a horse going bananas, throwing its rider in track work and going on a 5km freak out, then shaking it off to set a record time in our nation's greatest race.

Proper nonsense, love it.

As somebody very deep on Prognosis, I didn't enjoy it

Qman definitely did. Pretty sure he had the Federal Reserve on her

[plague]

As somebody very deep on Prognosis, I didn't enjoy it

Qman definitely did. Pretty sure he had the Federal Reserve on her

Nothing warms my cold heart more than knowing the great man backed the horse with the most nonsense around it.

jmac showboating prob cost the record a few more lengths, he is the absolute business that bloke. Bless him.