Newcastle United Jets 2013/2014 Squad thread

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Originally Posted by Premy

The "broom" has been through the squad at the end of every season for the last few years and we haven't found success, of the departures this season 4 of the 8 players Stubbins bought in only to dump less than 4 months later.
What makes you think he'll make a better decisions this time around?

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GVE revamped the squad and Stubbins certainly did this year but other than that it hasn't happened nearly enough IMO. We keep resigning players other clubs wouldn't even look at. If you didn't know Tinklers history, just looking at the clearout this week and backing the Manager is tough but reasonable decision for a club running 2nd last and missing the finals 4 years in a row.

But in saying that, I don't see Stubbins as the man to lead the change the club clearly needs.

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Originally Posted by halo se7en

Griffiths, Carney & Jaliens were here under GVE. I'm not convinced on Stubbins but do we honestly think a change of coach would have solved everything? Carney threw his toys out of the pram since he realised he wasn't playing in the Asian Cup. Griffiths has lost it. So has Kew. Flores is the only player I think has been hard done by.

If Tinkler doesn't go, then he has to rebuild the team. If he does go, then he's done the FFA a massive favour by giving them a bare squad that can be moulded by whoever comes in.

We've lost less than half our positive output and lost more than half our negative output. Anyone wonder whether Hoole chose Sydney to get away from other players? Just a thought.

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Griffiths and Carney arrived after GVE left. Its debatable whether GVE was involved in either signing.

well there is no-one left to sack really - so hey, credit to big phil...live by the sword, die by the sword

madaschi, flores and celeski are all stubbins' boys, so you really have to look at what he's doing if he can't even keep the blokes he picked in line

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Originally Posted by borat

Depends how you look at it. IMO if it had of gone the other way and Stubbins was punted, it may have been more popular but would have given very little difference on the field. The squad we have is piss poor and is either not committed nor playing at the level they should be.

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This is a point that many of us will argue against. A lot of us believe we have (or HAD) a capable squad to make the semis at the least, and it was the British-style negative style of play Stubbins employs that saw us not function to a capable level.

The new-coach feel, many (including me) believe, did wonders for us last year as Zane got us functioning really well. I fail to see how people can discredit how much a new coach would have changed the environment, had we kept the squad.

If the relationship between the squad and the coach has broken down to the extent where the players bypass him and go to the level above for a resolution it says there is clearly a communication problem. They don't agree on a common direction. In a business sense, a good manager should be open to listening to suggestions from their employees but ultimately make the decision. Good employees will feel comfortable they can challenge the norm and voice their opinion but similarly they need to accept the decision that is made and move forward with that decision. The current relationship is very unhealthy for reasons we don't know.

Tinkler has clearly sided with the manager because he thinks his approach is the right way.

However as many have said, I don't think Stubbins is the right person to be doing the sweeping (as many have said). We now have (again) a very young team, with no senior experience apart from Zenon, Kanta (who is still, what, 25?) and Kennedy who have really played any sort of A-League football. The situation we've created is we are still an unattractive destination for players and we will be paying overs to attract them.

I will be interested to see who gets brought in, if anyone, to replace them.

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Originally Posted by pv4

This is a point that many of us will argue against. A lot of us believe we have (or HAD) a capable squad to make the semis at the least, and it was the British-style negative style of play Stubbins employs that saw us not function to a capable level.

The new-coach feel, many (including me) believe, did wonders for us last year as Zane got us functioning really well. I fail to see how people can discredit how much a new coach would have changed the environment, had we kept the squad.

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A new coach will give you a short term bounce but unless the squad is capable the honeymoon doesn't last. Zane is a perfect example. We were top 3 under GVE before Burns departed when everything went pair shaped. Short term bounce under Zane until he was found out tactically by other coaches who took advantage.

Unless you believe the 5 should be re-signed for next year, it is reasonable decision to part ways now with 10 games left considering the relationship between coach and players is irreparable.



As I have said before but, I don't Stubbins either.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

If the relationship between the squad and the coach has broken down to the extent where the players bypass him and go to the level above for a resolution it says there is clearly a communication problem. They don't agree on a common direction. In a business sense, a good manager should be open to listening to suggestions from their employees but ultimately make the decision. Good employees will feel comfortable they can challenge the norm and voice their opinion but similarly they need to accept the decision that is made and move forward with that decision. The current relationship is very unhealthy for reasons we don't know.

Tinkler has clearly sided with the manager because he thinks his approach is the right way.

However as many have said, I don't think Stubbins is the right person to be doing the sweeping (as many have said). We now have (again) a very young team, with no senior experience apart from Zenon, Kanta (who is still, what, 25?) and Kennedy who have really played any sort of A-League football. The situation we've created is we are still an unattractive destination for players and we will be paying overs to attract them.

I will be interested to see who gets brought in, if anyone, to replace them.

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There are 5 players being signed according to Fox. 2 current A-league players, the Olyroo striker, Spanish defender & Korean LB

-------------------Birraz-------------------------

Rubez--------Kew----------Madaschi-----Goodwin

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Brown------Flores-------Steele-------------Carney

------------------Griff----------------------------


What have we done???

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

-------------------Birraz-------------------------

Rubez--------Kew----------Madaschi-----Goodwin

------------------Celeski-------------------------

Brown------------Flores--------------------Carney

------------------Griff----------------------------


What have we done???

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Helped spread our talent around the A-League.

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

-------------------Birraz-------------------------

Rubez--------Kew----------Madaschi-----Goodwin

------------------Celeski-------------------------

Brown------Flores-------Steele-------------Carney

------------------Griff----------------------------


What have we done???

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At least we got rid of Gallaway....... One tick for Tink !!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

-------------------Birraz-------------------------

Rubez--------Kew----------Madaschi-----Goodwin

------------------Celeski-------------------------

Brown------Flores-------Steele-------------Carney

------------------Griff----------------------------


What have we done???

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Add Ryan Griff Jobe Connor Chapman Kasey Wehrman Jason Culina to the mix and we have a solid bench too of blokes run out of town by the regime

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Connor Chapman

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:wub:

I seriously hate this club.

i guess the time is right for me to finally reveal that i am, in fact, a melbourne victory fan

come on you boys in blue

Like parksey, I'm happy to now reveal my true colours. Forza Team Elrich, wherever he plays.

Time to get the membership campaign pumping again boys:

http://i.imgur.com/iMFYxzJ.jpg

lel

5 stars

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Like parksey, I'm happy to now reveal my true colours. Forza Team Elrich, wherever he plays.

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I'm co-captain of this team.

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Originally Posted by militiamon

Time to get the membership campaign pumping again boys:

http://i.imgur.com/iMFYxzJ.jpg

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Serious, how do I give this more than all the stars?
Well in sir.

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Originally Posted by militiamon

Time to get the membership campaign pumping again boys:

http://i.imgur.com/iMFYxzJ.jpg

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Don't know why FIGHT was crossed out.

And you could have got rid of just BE and VE from the first word.