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Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
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Heard Lake Macquarie council are handing control of blacksmiths oval over to ValentineQuote:
Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
He said ruffle his feathers not pluck him
Anyone know the score from today's game?
1st 2 nil gunners,
gunners won all grades vs Toronto without conceding
Stags v Southy:
17's: Southy 1-0
19's: Southy 6-0
23's: Southy 3-0
1st: Southy 2-0
I was out at a very cold Johnston Park with the late kick-off at 4pm meaning the game went into darkness. Quality day of football between Westy and Thornton.
17's: Westy 4-1 (solid victory to go back to the top depending on Lakes tomorrow)
19's: Draw 2-2 (great effort from lower-table Thornton. Westy wasted some chances)
23's: Thornton 5-2 (3-0 at half-time and should have been more. Westy 23's all over the place at times. Thornton back into finals contention)
1st: Draw 2-2 (cracking first half with all the goals scored. Both teams had chances to win late on. Thornton had a cracking long-range shot that would have been goal of the season had it dipped in. Not the result either side wanted in the race for finals.)
Heard kahibah u/23's might have broken a record for undefeated streak. Any truth Newyty?
Not sure. They've gone nine straight games without loss, four of them have been draws which is the only thing keeping them out of the top four. Definitely the best unbeaten streak for any team this season. Westy's 17's went with eight straight wins but lost to Lakes so didn't get the ninth.Quote:
Originally Posted by cymonster
Inside news says Kahibah will have multiple outs next week across all grades due to the Kanga Cup and a fair few of their players being in the team for the football school down the coast. Gumprecht will be coaching said side and they'll have five or six 1st graders out. Tough ask for a game against Lakes.
Also, loads of confidence coming out of Cessnock at the moment. I'm expecting them to bring a real challenge in 1sts against Kahibah in two weeks.
I think Magic U22's/23's went 42 games undefeated between 2009-2010-2011, they had a 5 year grand final win streak at that time too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Surely not.. Kanga Cup finishes on Friday if they make the final.. Why wouldn't they play?Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Finals not next Friday but the one after. Tournament starts on Monday 4th July (Kahibah play Lakes on Sunday the 3rd.) Heard that they were going to play and then travel down but the football school wants them down there on Sunday for the opening ceremony or something. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was just one or two players but there's three first graders (including Gumprecht), at least two in 23's and three of the 19's. Will be interesting to see how they handle it; would imagine a domino effect with some 23's filling in for 1sts and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by football_macigian23
Interesting stat about Magic 22's. Doubt there'll be any record better than that. Would be interested to see what the record is in New-FM alone.
Just checked with committee.... was 46 games... Glenn Chapman was coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
yeah that was the Kale bradbury, andrew hoole , matt hoole, alex kanta, etc era.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Magician
Didn't Lakes 17s go the full first round without a loss (10 games)?Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Indeed they did. Lost their 11th match. Kahibah 23's can make it ten unbeaten on Sunday against Lakes but I really doubt it with the form Lakes 23's are in and the amount of players Kahibah will have out.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
Interesting article on The Herald website about a Westy's players comments made on Newysports facebook page. All a bit much IMO. Guess it gives them some positive publicity after their supposed 'Referee Recognition Round'. According to the article, it's a first for NNSWF to ban a player over ref comments. Nonetheless, I'm going to sit back and see how it pans out. One of those rare times I'm not at fault for some controversial comments on the page.
Article Link: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/39...t-water/?cs=12
Looks like he got what he deserved, rules are rules
Pretty much. Four games seems a bit much though. Guess this has to be a precedent from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
So you think the assoc is over-reacting to disparaging comments made by a player towards a referee? The player didn't mince his words. The club didn't deny the comments were made by their player either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
What were your thoughts on the RRR? Reading between the lines it sounds like you don't approve that it's required? Or do you think the idea fell flat? I personally didn't hear any comments or announcements made by clubs on game day
A bit much??? When the assoc keep losing referees at an alarming rate due to loose lips, the assoc need to make a statement, don't you think? Ppl keep complaining about quality of refs being poor. Quality can't improve if there are none to keep pushing those that are there. Maybe young Tye needs to be put through the referee exam and be made to do a few ZL3 lines to see what's it like. Zone league are always struggling for refsQuote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Agree with Ty here. Another case of nnsw making up punishments to suit themselves. Agreed the guy deserves punishment for what he posted. But the regulations state that for such an offence the suspension is for 2 weeks for a players/officials first offence. So how to you come up with 4 weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
I never said the punishment wasn't required but 4 weeks is an over-reaction. I know the refs have a shortage and I in fact did ref for a little bit a few years back, albeit at a junior level. Did a few Metro League games as it was then known and the parents and coaches hurled a fair bit of abuse.
As for the Ref Recognition Round, I myself don't disagree with the whole idea. But I spoke to one of the refs on Sunday about it and he didn't notice any change and neither did I. I ran the PA system at Westy and Belswans on the weekend so maybe should have mentioned it but the main idea was for players, coaches and onlookers to quieten down. It was a normal day at the office in both games. I made a point in my latest write-up about some parents in Belswans 17's that were chirpy to opposition players and especially the ref and of course Westy's fans are backwards in going forward when it comes to blasting the refs. Overall I thought a couple of posters at the ground and a Facebook post by one or two clubs could have been better.
I fully agree with the idea of RRR. Anything to help encourage the refs to stay in the game.
However NNSW Football need to practice what they preach.
I was talking to a young referee who did a shift at David Eland Park (SPRFF) on Saturday and received no recognition at all.
Looking at the latest points table. Things are starting to hot up for the minor premiership. Can anyone other than Belswans beat Lakes???? Can Kahibah field a full strength team or use this as an excuse??? It's a little more interesting at the top than in previous years. The run in should be good to watch.
Kahibah have an extra game. Will be very interesting if they down Lakes on the weekend but they've got upwards of six starters out for various reasons. Not trying to make excuses for them but it makes it tough. Belswans IMO deserve to finish above Lakes after beating them twice. Even if Lakes lift the minor premiership, Belswans still have the wood over them and a potential Grand Final clash would be quiet something.Quote:
Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
On a personal level, I would have liked to have seen a bit more competition from the chasing pack to make the top four. After Wallsend lost their points I've been pulling for the likes of Westy and Thornton to grab a result here and there and make it interesting. The settled nature of the 1st grade top four is made a bit better by the wide open U23's competition where it seems no team can take the next step forward apart from Lakes obviously.
Thankfully there is reward for consistency across the season against all teams. By your thinking the jets should have deserved to finish above Brisbane and victory in the past few aleague seasons when they had the wood over them. Obviously Belswans turn up for the big games and or have the structure and game plan to beat lakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
I don't think the NewFM table is as cut and dried and people are saying.
There isn't much between the top six teams or so and any could beat any of them on their day.
There may well be a twist to the season as player depth is tested due to suspensions and injury in the remaining quarter of the season.
Due to the excessive number of cards handed out each week to all teams there will be players sitting on 4+ yellow cards. Serious suspensions are in play for excessive yellows.
My understanding is that:
5 yellows = 1 week suspension,
6 yellows = 2 weeks
7 yellows = 3 weeks etc.
Given that Wallsend and Westy have obviously had players on 5+ cards for weeks now given their stripping of points I suspect all clubs will have players in serious suspension trouble leading up to the backend of the season.
Means some interesting decisions will need to be made by clubs in semi final contention.
For example, lets say team A is going to make the finals, their key player B has 5 yellow cards for the season and there is still 2 rounds to go.
Do you rest him for the last two rounds to ensure he is available for the semi finals or do you play him in the last two rounds and run the risk of a 6th yellow card which would rule him out of one or both semi finals?
I still rate Thornton a chance of beating Wallsend to 4th place - they do need to beat them this weekend though.
It's a little off point but the example you have put forward is a great example of how poor refereeing decisions can effect the outcome of a clubs season. Every club now has to tolerate the issue of referees who are both inexperienced and lack true football knowledge and therefore are making rash decisions and booking players for challenges that should in some case not even be a free kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
A good strong center half will get 5 yellow cards or more in a season, why should he cop suspensions? Shouldn't we have the best players playing?
This yellow card suspension rule is a silly rule at best and seriously needs to be looked at in the future.
An interesting point of view zico.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Whether a referee is experienced or not, players who accumulate yellow cards obviously don't learn from their 'rash decisions' during numerous matches. It is very easy to blame refs for dealing out the cards and using them as scapegoats. Players know what they are doing when they go in for a challenge.
There are even times when a player gets away without a card when they really deserved one.
everyone complains of refs throwing around cards at the start of the season but never say anything about how a certain player tackles, which if they do accumulate cards, all of a sudden they are not so cynical or dirty when challenging for the ball when a suspension looms.
Easy way to avoid getting 5 Yellow Cards
If you are sitting on 4 Yellows and receive your 5th in a game, make sure you get a Second Yellow to get sent off.
Because the Red Card cancels out the Yellow Cards from that game, so you will perpetually on 4 Yellows.
I recall hearing somewhere that if you get a 2nd red in a season it is a 2 match ban, so if that is true your scenario would only be of benefit for the 6th yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
Or the players could take some responsibility for their own actions. They could simply not foul players and follow the laws of the game, the same ones the referees use to determine yellow cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Take your do-gooder hat of for a minute and understand what was posted!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Have you been to many matches in the past few seasons? Some of the cards handed out are no fault of the player as they were within the rules but the referee had no idea or very little football knowledge and as a result they have a rush of blood and pull the card.
We now have very young people coming through who are still not mature enough, have little football knowledge (great at reading the rule book) and have even less man management skills. This is no fault of theirs as they are being pushed in the deep end before their time and therefore these decisions are being made and the players are paying the price.
I am totally against players receiving suspensions for yellow cards and even more so in the current climate of fast tracking referees.
Stags too good for belswans today
Go the gunners
Good game today with Cooks Hill but winning comfortably in the end 3-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Southy making a late run with 7 points out of a possible 9 in their last 3 games but at least 4 games over the season where they have either drawn or lost in the last few minutes have cost them any chance of making the semis.
Former Jets Youth player Nic Pepper has been a good addition in recent weeks.
True that. Turn up with a few off the pace and a couple with their heads not in the game and you get caught / found out. Although, the game should have over at half time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
Agree, belswans got frustrated and whilst it is at 1nil the other mob is always in it. This was very similar to the first round with belswans dominating possession but unable to create enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
Newysports predicted a 7 nil to belswans, not saying his prediction wasn't without some foundation, it is maybe like a 150-1 horse winning the race or is it, it was only a two horse race, lesson to be learned here.Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
Any news floating around of coaching changes, any late player movements?
Also in reference to the stags, have heard a few promising things are happening, as Jose once said- "The title race is between two horses (Kahibah and lakes) and a little horse (belswans ) that needs milk and needs to learn how to jump," he said. "Maybe next season we can race." stags will finish top 4 next year
If they are even in Newfm, ;), also could be a high profile coach and a very good technical director on their way there in 2017Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam