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Plague I junk you're getting Ryan confused with Adam
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
**** Ryan Berkowitz.
Agree,Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Fu_k ryan, he walked out twice and overrated
Joel = Newcastle
If it's true the Jets have $800k left for nine signings they might as well start engraving the wooden spoon now.
Nothing changes, club is still shit, and the fans are once again being taken for a ride by the FFA.
Why? Assuming Cowburn signs...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Ki-Je
??? Kanta
Cooper
Alivodic ??? Carney
That's a pretty decent framework for a starting side, I think the strongest backline we have had in years. Good players on either wing, excellent overlapping from the fullbacks and then Griff/Griff/Brennan/Pav in the middle. Just need another decent midfielder (Rostyn Griffiths?) alongside Kanta/Cooper and then the rest of the squad should be filled with young up and comers. Let's sign the next Taggart and Brillante, ffs and spin it for a profit in 3 years time.
I expect that a few of the new signings will be signed on 1 year contracts. We have some assumed big-hitters in Carney, Kantarovski and Birrighiti coming off contract next year and unless they are contributing as compared to their wage I would see them getting moved on.
I think we could also see some players who previously played return, as has been mooted. I wonder what Celeski has been doing with himself since he was released? I'd be using the bulk of the money in midfield and striker and trying to sign fringe players for the rest because I think if we try to average the money out across the positions we will get mediocrity but throwing more at some and getting fillers for the rest can at least boost our starting XI.
I would not be suprised one bit if we got one or 2 loan deals from england. Saying miller has cut all ties with fulham after donkeys years there wouldnt be true. My guess is he still tied up with the hob knobs and essentially in a good place to get us loans.
In his interview on KOFM yesterday, Miller said he has a couple of good mates coming to the A-League which are yet to be confirmed. I immediately thought it could well be coming to the Jets and possibly on loans... I could be reading too much into it thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by matty
In millers nbn interview he specifically talked about loans, to me its the only way we will be able to strengthen enough without resorting to signing mediocrity across the board.
Any starting team that looks to rely on kanta in the mids is asking for trouble, has been half the player he used to be at the best of times, maybe miller can get him back, but that's a big if.
Loan Deals would seem to go against Miller's talk of building for the next 2 seasons.
Given the cap restrictions, I don't think he is going to have a choice this season. He will have to look to loans until some of the on contract players come off contract, unless we sign a few people on minimum wage.
That is the same every year though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
442 reporting we have eyes on virgilli and madaschi. Also keen on nabbout and mate duganzic
Please dont be true!Quote:
Originally Posted by matty
It's the same every year since we have had muppets running the place for a while. There's no reason I can fathom why some of the players we have should be pushing close to $200k.Quote:
Originally Posted by De-Champ
So with this new loyalty deal. Why cant we put Kanta and BK under that category and free up $250k??
You would hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomo
You look at teams like Victory and Syd and the quality of players they have across the park, and the fact theyre still in the hunt for the better players in the league, it really makes me wonder how they can fit everyone under the cap. So why have we managed to dig ourselves such a big hole and have nothing left in the kitty for 5-6 decent players? I understand theyre utilising all the marquee spots available, which frees up room, but im still sceptical about theyre cap sizesQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
The fact that victory are chasing holland as theyre marquee too really disappoints me... The FFA want this club to work but wont help us attract players
Remember there is still 3rd party payments outside of the cap as well. They're prob maxing out their 3rd party payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomo
It could also be they don't spend nearly $200k on shit like BK or BK. They fill their squads with a top quality first XI and the rest with young up and comers who aren't proven enough to demand big coin.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomo
*edit* Not that I think either of them are shit just not worth the huge coin they are reported to be on.
+1
Also, do we have one of our younger players off under Junior Marquee wages?
Is cowburn eligible for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Isn't it anyone U23? Cowburn, Lundy, Pav, Cooper should all be eligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomo
I guess the problem is that we are FFA funded and they aren't putting money outside the cap... so I assume that the Junior marquee is club funded, not part of TV deal salary cap.
I'd imagine junior marquee needs to have a certain level of recent national team representation and other criteria. I doubt any of our guys qualify.
Also iirc it's not their entire wage that is outside the cap, or there's something weird about the setup.
150k outside the cap from last time I recall this discussion. And Thwaite is a marquee for Perth, there can surely be no limit on who or what qualifies as a marquee these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
*edit*
Though that may have been replaced with the 150k for up to 3 U23 NYL players or whatever the other rule is. Who knows with the FFA/PFA shenanigans.
So how does the 3rd party funding work. Can we get a sponsor as such to foot the bill for someone like cowburn outside of the cap?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Thwaite has represented the socceroos and was the captain and arguably best performing Perth player for years. I have zero issues with him being Australian Marquee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Mitch Cooper has represented the Aus U20 team, I have no issues with him being Junior Marquee.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Also, my point is that he isn't what the entire marquee concept was all about... he's not a big name that will get people through the gates. Just **** it off and replace it with a brand new "One Visa and one Australian player outside the cap" clause instead of trying to pretend they are marquee players.
The Australian marquee is intended to entice Socceroos to return to Australia, as well as keep them here amongst all the Asian Oil Leagues throwing dollars at them.
Something that very possibly could have happened to Thwaite.
The way Robbie Middleby used to talk, the junior marquee has to be a local.
Today is Thursday, nearly another week gone and still no new signings.
All the positivity and progress off the field of the past months really amounts to nothing when we still only have 14 players on our books!
Want it done right away.
But then I want to whinge when this players they signed without taking time to evaluate options don't work out.
I'm only asking for one or two new signings to be announced, that's not a too unreasonable expectation at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
In fairness though, if Miller is in fact having the final say on new signings I can understand that he has only been back a few days and will have only assessed the curent squad and areas where we need to strengthen.
I want him to take his time and get it right. Something that we haven't done in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
I don't really give a fig about the FFA cup. Lets sort out our squad, and make sure that we are right for the season proper.
I want better players at training so our current guys are given incentive to try harder.
Also just more numbers at training in general, make it more competitive and fun to be apart of.
Sign Griff and Cowburn and then go from there.
sign richo porta
My man, just look at the last Uruguayan we had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeen
Corbo :wub:
If playing for Newcastle is not enough incentive then these khunts should be shown the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Some people train well others don't - and it's very difficult to rate some one on their training performance alone. Look at Hoffman, as far as GVE was concerned he must have been equivalent to Lionel Messi at Training.
Others are probably a completely different story.
accepted, that time is needed in assessing the squad. However if we don't see any signings by end of next week then i think many questions need to be raised in what is FFA doing in managing the club??. I have a slight feeling that we may want to sign players but it is being rejected by the FFA as they are looking to sell the ownership before they pour anymore money into the club.?
Let's just hope the coaching staff can implement a structure that can keep us competitive. This year that is best outcome for us, we were never going to be able to challenge or be finals contenders in these first 2 years. if we do (awesome news) it will be an outstanding feat by the coaching staff.
my only concern really is i think something is going on behind the scenes restricting us from signing any players as of yet!