2017 National Premier League thread

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

The funny thing is in the same article Zadcovich went on to say that he likes promoting youth anyway. So his gripe did not make sense.

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He does like promoting youth. He's had a 17 year old start the last two games while bringing on two more teens for their debut.
He doesn't understand why you can't sign a player from within the league rather than having to look for someone from a different league. You can't expect a young kid to slot straight in and become a permanent first grader in the midfield. You need to bleed the kids in and give them a proper chance which I'm sure they will still get. If you can't work it out, then I can't help you any further.

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Originally Posted by Lofty

He does like promoting youth. He's had a 17 year old start the last two games while bringing on two more teens for their debut.
He doesn't understand why you can't sign a player from within the league rather than having to look for someone from a different league. You can't expect a young kid to slot straight in and become a permanent first grader in the midfield. You need to bleed the kids in and give them a proper chance which I'm sure they will still get. If you can't work it out, then I can't help you any further.

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Like someone said as if magic are the only club with injuries. If a club with the depth/squad magic have are complaining about signing players etc spare a thought for clubs that don't have half the depth/squad that magic have... I think he is doing a lot of complaining because his side are not winning, not top of the pile. If they were he would be praising them instead.

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

Like someone said as if magic are the only club with injuries. If a club with the depth/squad magic have are complaining about signing players etc spare a thought for clubs that don't have half the depth/squad that magic have... I think he is doing a lot of complaining because his side are not winning, not top of the pile. If they were he would be praising them instead.

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Well I can certainly tell you that Ruben isn't going to the Herald because he wants to have a whinge with them. He's more than happy to mind his own business and get on with the job. I guess the reporters do a pretty good job of picking out only people who are going to give them the clicks on articles they need because he's going to speak honestly.

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

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Do you pay the bills do you?

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

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Originally Posted by Blueboy

Do you pay the bills do you?

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After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

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Originally Posted by Lofty

After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

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There is 500 plus between Maguire, tull, ferguson, sulini at azzurri, so would be hard to beat

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Originally Posted by Lofty

After all these years he still finds it hard to believe players are happy to play for Magic for reasons other than money. I think you'd find it hard to find another club that has a playing roster with any near the amount of collective games played for that current club than Magic does.

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I am with FR

Magic may not be paying the most money in the comp but they definitely one of the better paying sides out there

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

There is 500 plus between Maguire, tull, ferguson, sulini at azzurri, so would be hard to beat

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To be fair, those boys are certainly loyal and good blokes. But Piddo and Haynes alone are around 450. You then have Higgins 150+, Luke Virgili, Hoole, Griff who are 100+ so there's around 900 without even mentioning Foteff, Bradbury, Alex Kanta. And all of those figures are from last year. So there would be well in excess of over a 1000 games there.
No way is that a dig at Azzuri, but if people can honestly think that these boys haven't turned down bigger money from others club and to remain at Magic then they're absolutely kidding themselves.

I wonder how many First division games are in the current South Cardiff squad..... :lulz:

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Originally Posted by MFKS

I am with FR

Magic may not be paying the most money in the comp but they definitely one of the better paying sides out there

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Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Lofty

Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

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I think in terms of player payments, Jaffas and Maitland would be two of the highest paying clubs, well in front of Magic!

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Originally Posted by Lofty

Magic would certainly not have the smallest wage bill in the comp, that's obvious and I don't think anyone would deny that. But I certainly don't think they are paying overs for their players. They have a very solid roster, so you'd expect a fair amount goes to wages, but I'd be certain most of those boys would have been offered more money from other clubs and could definitely be earning more somewhere else.

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I think we are all in agreement then

Jaffas
Maitland
Magic/Olympic
Edgy
The rest

I backing that the pecking order

Ruben though can't complain that his club ain't offering good coin

Because they are. Blokes atagic may not be on top $$ but they well looked after they ain't poor

His whole gripe is BS anyway

The rule that you can't bring in from outside actually encouraging clubs to use the 20s

Exactly what they should be doing.

Not looking to short term plug a hole with an outside player

Promote the Yoof

Its overcast today, call all matches off!

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Stating their not a big paying club isn't speaking honestly,

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If I had to choose between ForeverRed or Ruben, I know who I'd believe

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Originally Posted by Stanley

If I had to choose between ForeverRed or Ruben, I know who I'd believe

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Thanks Stanley

Valo v Weston 1-1 at HT. Early goal to the home side and they were largely in control. Weston slowly came back into it but got a pen out of nothing. Had a few half-chances at the end of half. My 4.50 on the draw so far looking good....

Jets 2 jaffas 1

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Originally Posted by magician

Jets 2 jaffas 1

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Fulltime ?

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Originally Posted by winner

Fulltime ?

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Yes

Valo 2-1 Weston FT. Weston all over the hosts in the second. Valo snatched it with basically the last kick of the game. Totally undeserved win.

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Its overcast today, call all matches off!

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Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

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What a ridiculous call :/

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Youth matches at Weston on Sunday off

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Wonder if it was called due to do the pitch condition or the fact that the Lovedale Long Lunch is on? Maybe a few wanted a wine instead of the football?

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Originally Posted by Zico

Wonder if it was called due to do the pitch condition or the fact that the Lovedale Long Lunch is on? Maybe a few wanted a wine instead of the football?

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Lovedale is an over 18s event. Not really the kind of thing that attracts young boys usually. Pretty sure it's a beer only diet around Weston.

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Originally Posted by Lofty

Lovedale is an over 18s event. Not really the kind of thing that attracts young boys usually. Pretty sure it's a beer only diet around Weston.

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Under 18s and younger have parents maybe they like a tipple

More inportantly

Who is on Pizza watch today at the Magic game??

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Originally Posted by MFKS

I think we are all in agreement then

Jaffas
Maitland
Magic/Olympic
Edgy
The rest

I backing that the pecking order

Ruben though can't complain that his club ain't offering good coin

Because they are. Blokes atagic may not be on top $$ but they well looked after they ain't poor

His whole gripe is BS anyway

The rule that you can't bring in from outside actually encouraging clubs to use the 20s

Exactly what they should be doing.

Not looking to short term plug a hole with an outside player

Promote the Yoof

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I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.

What's southy got to do with anything?

Yeah, what he said, probably because Terryk was never good enough to grace jack neave, men of Football are still waiting for him to attend our meeting, there's plenty to do terryk, put your money where your mouth is, this Wednesday at the duke buddy

Scores anyone?

Azzurri 2 ( goodchild , smith ), Kyle hodges man of the Match, Magic 1 ... oh hang on ... Olympic ��

Magic had all the play first half but went to the sheds 2.1 down, paid the price for missed chances, olympic were extremely direct,they didn't play a great deal of Football, Olympics goals both pens, second was a bit dubious,

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Originally Posted by terryk

I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.

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Well done for magic in their improvement of facilities. But in the end its a game of points, and facilities dont get you points.

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Originally Posted by terryk

I have no doubt that Hamilton and Edgeworth have much bigger player budgets that Magic.

Player payment, or let's say Excessive player payments, are a problem for the clubs where they the clubs can no longer invest in their facilities and youth teams and general professionalism. At least magic have something to show for their years of hard work at Macedonia Park regardless of what they pay their players, can the same be said of other clubs, although a special mention for South Cardiff on their gold plated Chicken Shed and successful team.

It makes no difference if you spend 100k, 200k, or 10k for your players budget, everyone is in it to win it and you shouldn't be in the premier league if your main focus is not to win the competition. As with any major league in the world it's for their first team to win titles and not promote youth, if they are good enough they will play first grade.

If you feel like you would rather spend your total budget on the team to win 5 or 6k at the end of the season then so be it, but you also have a choice. A choice to be competitive, professional, viable. And on making the right choices Magic and some other clubs have got the job done.

Not against youth development but I would rather watch good quality players regardless of age as opposed to an artificially created league where youth are promoted at the exspence of older players because they are old.

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No. Broadmeadow and Hamo have bought the best players and won the comp in the past. They also have poached or attract (some parents prefer that route) the best juniors in the area for the last decade. Because someone other club buys the best players and become good for a change it becomes a crime? No thanks.

On the other issue about ground development those 2 clubs excel in this area use the community and attract funding very well to make their grounds very functional. An example for all.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Magic had all the play first half but went to the sheds 2.1 down, paid the price for missed chances, olympic were extremely direct,they didn't play a great deal of Football, Olympics goals both pens, second was a bit dubious,

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Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

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Originally Posted by EH9

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

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Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.

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Originally Posted by hawk

Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.

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He might be feeling the pressure?

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Originally Posted by EH9

Did you notice the Magic coach shove an Olympic player after the FT whistle? Very unsavoury for officials to get involved with opposition players like that!

Interesting if any sanction comes of it.

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No I missed it

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Originally Posted by hawk

Yeah little niggle that you shouldnt expect from the coach. You see it at the end on Bartv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ue74zGLg68

The Magic players diffused it pretty well.

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Just viewed it on Bartv. Very unsavoury from Zads , also the stomp from Piddington during injury time. How does the referee miss that ?
Let's see if Northern do anything about the incident involving Zads and Smith , or whether they sweep it under the carpet because it's Magic

Zads not the only coach to get a bit heated yesterday. Bloke in an Edgey coaching shirt carried on a right treat in the tunnel to the sheds after the Edgeworth and Lakes game. Throwing haymakers and screaming for everyone to fight him. Throwing in every c**t and f**k he could muster in front of the ball boys and families at the game.