AFC Asian Cup Australia 2015 - Newcastle Hosting

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Fifa a missed a golden opportunity by not giving us the WC??

WTF You are pretty naïve here. FIFA are all about making money for themselves and their associates. No way in the world would they want a WC in Australia where the government are not gonna bend on laws. In Brazil and Sth Africa local laws were broken/bent that badly to exploit the country for FIFA's gain. They are still pissed about what happened in Germany where the locals wouldn't play ball.

No WC anytime soon is going to a Western Nation who has pretty firm laws that will not see the government easily concede to FIFA's demands.

It ain't about the crowds or the people. It is all about the money.

Crowds will go to the WC wherever it is on the planet. Qatar will be well supported regardless of the bullshit predictions the media make just as Russia will be well supported regardless of how the western media continue to demonise Putin and Russia for not bending over and taking it up the arse to accommodate US interests.

FIFA ain't missing anything by avoiding us. They actually will gain more by not coming here

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I wasn't talking in monetary terms. Of course they went with the countries who filled their pockets the most.

For the good of the game, which FIFA don't have in mind, I'm saying they missed an opportunity to expand a growing market in Australia.

This Asian Cup is great and all, don't get me wrong, but I struggle to see how USA wasn't the best choice for 2022 tbh.

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Originally Posted by pv4

This Asian Cup is great and all, don't get me wrong, but I struggle to see how USA wasn't the best choice for 2022 tbh.

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the only problem i have with this is the USA had the f**king world cup in 94.

England and Australia were the ideal choices IMO.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

I am only assuming the Japs will win because if they don't it is a bonus and all but guaranteed Final for us.

UAE do not worry me in the slightest as I feel they will park the bus against us and end up getting done over anyway like the rest of the Gulf nations have done when playing Australia.

Japan I respect and fear. They won't park the bus and will have a go at us and as I don't rate our defence I feel in Honda Kagawa Endo and co have the class to tear us a new arse hole

I am already assuming the worst as we may as well expect to play the superior side now and if we get the lesser side happy days

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I understand the points made, and I agree it will more-than-likely be Japan progressing. Just feel it's disrespectful to write off anybody, especially at this stage of a competition.

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Originally Posted by Imyourhero

Do we think Luongo will be a target for clubs following the AC? Where would you like to see him go?

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He's been a target of championship clubs for over a year. Swindon knocked back a pretty sizeable bid last window and there were rumours of half of them being back in for him again before the Asian cup even started.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

The more I've watched this tournament, the more it sinks into me that FIFA missed a golden opportunity to play the World Cup here. We would fill every stadium for every game. We're getting 5000 people to Bahrain v Qatar and 7500 when the socceroos were playing at the same time to a dead rubber match! Imagine if we had England, Brazil, Germany and Argentina coming out here!

This tournament has certainly surpassed my expectations and I'm really enjoying watching the matches. Teams are coming out and having a go at each other and playing some very entertaining football.

After the crap we Jets fans have endured over the last number of years, more-so recently, it's great to enjoy football again.

Cannot wait for Tuesday night. The biggest thing in this city since the Beckham match.

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Jeterpool spot on yet again. World cup would have been huge here and i have also loved the football played. I have tried to watch every single game, have seen at least part of all of them.

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

the only problem i have with this is the USA had the f**king world cup in 94.

England and Australia were the ideal choices IMO.

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I don't actually see what is to be gained at all holding a WC in England.

The code is popular enough anyway there so a WC ain't gonna boost anything there. All the best players play in England in their careers anyway whether that be in the EPL or UCL matches so it ain't like the locals need the opportunity to see the elite players anyway


Agree the USA should wait a bit longer for 2nd crack at it but the reality is sooner or later it will be back in Concacaf and your choices are Mexico who have held it twice Canada the USA and 30 odd other countries far too small to hold it.

Add in the fact the USA is a huge player in World Affairs can see why it would hold interest to get a better foothold for the code in the US landscape

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

I wasn't talking in monetary terms. Of course they went with the countries who filled their pockets the most.

For the good of the game, which FIFA don't have in mind, I'm saying they missed an opportunity to expand a growing market in Australia.

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The thing that is also missed in this is even though Qatar is a small nation playing a WC in the Arab world is actually be expanding the game on a far greater scale than somewhere like us who are at the arse end of the world.

Not saying we wouldn't benefit but the Arab region will also benefit and are just as much deserving at holding a WC as anyone else. Unfortunately the criticism of the Qatar decision tends to overlook this and imply that area of the world are not deserving which is ohh so wrong

The other sad state of affairs is that unfortunately with world politics/security etc the way they are there are only a few acceptable locations to hold it in that neck of the woods anyway and FIFA at least chose one of the best options available anyway

i wouldn't say there is anything to be gained out of holding a WC in England but i would say that about Russia as well.

England has all the stadia, training facilities, yada yada all ready to go and it would have come at little to no cost for tax payers.

agree that it will be back in CONCACAF soon. Austalia won't be getting a world cup till 2030 at the earliest

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Originally Posted by MFKS

The thing that is also missed in this is even though Qatar is a small nation playing a WC in the Arab world is actually be expanding the game on a far greater scale than somewhere like us who are at the arse end of the world.

Not saying we wouldn't benefit but the Arab region will also benefit and are just as much deserving at holding a WC as anyone else. Unfortunately the criticism of the Qatar decision tends to overlook this and imply that area of the world are not deserving which is ohh so wrong

The other sad state of affairs is that unfortunately with world politics/security etc the way they are there are only a few acceptable locations to hold it in that neck of the woods anyway and FIFA at least chose one of the best options available anyway

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I can accept your points there. Good post.

Must admit I took a bit of satisfaction in telling a mate the tickets were sold out when he said on fb this morning something like, "don't normally like soccer but would be keen to see the socceroos, anyone keen?".
Thought Jedinak was abysmal in the first half, didn't notice him much in the second which means he was probably doin his job a bit better but far out, I reckon at least 50% of his short passes in the middle early on were either hospital passes or straight up intercepted, and he missed about his first 5 long balls as well as coming close to being sent with terrible tackling. Bresc was alright besides his shooting but yeah clearly doesn't have the engines to press, doesn't move it quick and can't really dribble either. Only spot for him to start would be as a second holding mid with Luongo in front probably, but Milligan and Jedinak (assuming he remembers how to play) would both be preferred in that role. Agree with whoever said he should come on as a late sub if at all. Milligan did look really good coming on and impressed against Korea as well, was kinda hoping he got subbed on at half time for Jedinak :whistling:

Hope we don't have that shit a start from here on in.. honkin for at least the first 20, a better team would have made us pay for that especially since our defense has not proved rock solid.

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

i wouldn't say there is anything to be gained out of holding a WC in England but i would say that about Russia as well.

England has all the stadia, training facilities, yada yada all ready to go and it would have come at little to no cost for tax payers.

agree that it will be back in CONCACAF soon. Austalia won't be getting a world cup till 2030 at the earliest

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Russia is one of the biggest developing economies on the planet. Even though they were a world power in the USSR days and there lustre faded at the break up of the Soviet Union they are ever so slowly gaining their lustre again. Holding a WC will be a huge boon for their local game who lets face it under achieve something shocking with their NT at Confederation level let alone WC level as well as their clubs sides in the UCL do little also.

Add in the fact it will be the first WC ever for Eastern Europe as the rest have all been held in Western Europe.

I also don't think you are taking into account the hidden benefits of holding a WC which will see reduced barriers and increased trade to the Russian economy removal of stereotypes and perceptions of that neck of the woods as well as a huge boost to Russians who will think they can achieve anything in the world.

The English wouldn't gain **** all in this regard as they are all ready capable (Cricket and their NT withstanding :tongue:)

New stadiums and facilities leave a legacy to the nation hosting it. Just cause England would not have to invest a pound in this doesn't mean they should host it. The thing comes around every 4 years and governments can get away with spending money on it so take the chance whilst it is available

As for Australia hosting a WC 2030 ain't happening.

Next cab off the rank is China in Asia

Then after that we need to worry about India/Indonesia and new bids from Japan and Korea.

Reality is we will be lucky to see the WC here before 2100 let alone in our lifetimes

Looks like Sepp coming to Sydney for final next week........He is going to be popular :sparring:

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Originally Posted by pv4

This Asian Cup is great and all, don't get me wrong, but I struggle to see how USA wasn't the best choice for 2022 tbh.

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FIFA punishing the yanks for exposing the Kardashians on the world.
Fair call IMO.

I'm def going to Qatar. Mrs Plague already has her Aussie flag hijab ready to go.

bresh's international career is over

Hope the Newy crowd gives Milligan the huge round of applause he deserves.
Ill always remember the time he chose us over Arsenal and Milan.

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Originally Posted by plague

Mrs Plague already has her Aussie flag hijab ready to go.

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:rof:

Btw - ead to all the Sainsbury haters, hey.

#noregrets

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Originally Posted by pv4

Btw - ead to all the Sainsbury haters, hey.

#noregrets

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Well Done.

Problem is you plug that many sooner or later your bound to get one right.



I take it there will be no comment though on my claim that Tommy Juric is a poor mans Matt Simon???

I just cringe when I remember how poor his touch and finishing was in Brisbane where he cost us two goals personally a competent player would have taken.


Can't believe anyone rates him

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Problem is you plug that many sooner or later your bound to get one right.

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:roflz:

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Looks like Sepp coming to Sydney for final next week........He is going to be popular :sparring:

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Hookers and Coke needed.

Big Wigs in town to suck the mango

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Well Done.

Problem is you plug that many sooner or later your bound to get one right.



I take it there will be no comment though on my claim that Tommy Juric is a poor mans Matt Simon???

I just cringe when I remember how poor his touch and finishing was in Brisbane where he cost us two goals personally a competent player would have taken.


Can't believe anyone rates him

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Who have I plugged that you would consider hasn't been "right"?

Apart from Juric, that is (who I still believe is our long-term option to replacing Cahill).

Can't wait for Attendance Number coming up on the screen in second half Tuesday night. My bet: 17500...!!!!! :tongue:

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Originally Posted by pv4

Who have I plugged that you would consider hasn't been "right"?

Apart from Juric, that is (who I still believe is our long-term option to replacing Cahill).

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I will answer that question when you provide the Sheep Quiz Answers :trolls:

Just having a look at some info on We Lei, Chinese number 10 who caused some headaches. Gee its impressive.
23 years old already has 179 appearances for Shanghai East Asia, 76 goals. Played his first professional game at 14 years old. Since he has been there the club has risen from div.3 to Chinese super league.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Cannot wait for Tuesday night. The biggest thing in this city since the Beckham match.

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Since ever.

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

i wouldn't say there is anything to be gained out of holding a WC in England but i would say that about Russia as well.

England has all the stadia, training facilities, yada yada all ready to go and it would have come at little to no cost for tax payers.

agree that it will be back in CONCACAF soon. Austalia won't be getting a world cup till 2030 at the earliest

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2026 I would imagine is going to American and Canada
2030 is pretty much locked into be in Uruguay as it would be 100 years since the first World Cup.
2034 is the earliest we can get it, though I fear Fifa will try something along the lines of what Europe are doing for the Euros and will spread it across Europe
2038 is our best bet IMO.

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Originally Posted by Premy

2026 I would imagine is going to American and Canada
2030 is pretty much locked into be in Uruguay as it would be 100 years since the first World Cup.
2034 is the earliest we can get it, though I fear Fifa will try something along the lines of what Europe are doing for the Euros and will spread it across Europe
2038 is our best bet IMO.

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I think China will be ahead of us, even Japan or Korea again. I just cant see Australia getting it as long as i am alive and i plan on living well past 2038.

2026 USA
2030 Europe / England (Because they don't seem to do 3 WC in a row outside the old continent)
2034 Africa / Morocco
2038 South America / Argentina
2042 Europe / Italy
2046 Asia / China
+ 24 years (2070) / Australia (But I be dead)!!!

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Originally Posted by Premy

2026 I would imagine is going to American and Canada
2030 is pretty much locked into be in Uruguay as it would be 100 years since the first World Cup.
2034 is the earliest we can get it, though I fear Fifa will try something along the lines of what Europe are doing for the Euros and will spread it across Europe
2038 is our best bet IMO.

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Not Certain Uruguay in this day and age is a big enough place to hold it particularly on their own.

They only really have 1 city of note, a population of 3 million or so, their stadiums are well behind standards required and they don't have the wealth Qatar would have to throw at it to fix their issues.

Noble idea but can't see it happening unless it is a shared WC between them and Argies with maybe Brazil chipping in???


Other than Brazil or Argentina I wouldn't expect any other Sth American country to get it on their own these days.

Asia has the 2022 so by "FIFA rules" another Asian nation cannot host another WC until 2034.

2026
America have it nailed down as Europe and Asia can't host and South America seem to be putting all their eggs in the 2030 basket.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ournament.html

2030
You would be correct in the prospect of Argentina/Uruguay WC
http://www.argentinauruguay2030.com/?m=1

Chile wants to join in on the bid also
http://m.firstpost.com/sports/chile-...0-1787593.html

2034
Would be between Asia and Europe as no other African nation other than South Africa has the resources, infrastructure or money to do it, the logistics of a joint African bid will not come together quite well either. Europe would more than likely have the edge due to Asia hosting 2022.

2038
So with Europe hosting 2034 Australia will have to convince Asia to back them and not China, Japan, Korea, India ect no easy feat.

But knowing how FIFA works the price of Ice will go through the roof and Antarctica will buy the bids.

I reckon Morrocco or Egypt could host it tbh.

Decent header that.

Ben Williams is an imposter. Absolute shambles

Good old Mr Centre of Attention ruining football yet again. **** off, Williams.

Benjamin at his best again!!!!! :facepalm:

Williams got it dead right.
Slater is an idiot carrying on.
Good reffing imo

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Originally Posted by plague

Williams got it dead right.
Slater is an idiot carrying on.
Good reffing imo

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Was it a 2nd yellow for diving? At the ground and wasn't sure of the red card.

Atmosphere is amazing

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Originally Posted by Thomas477

I reckon Morrocco or Egypt could host it tbh.

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Morocco missed out to SA in 2010 (14 votes to 10, Egypt got none) [As per Wiki]

The panel are laying into Williams. Aloisi especially... Was excellent.