You could argue avoiding coming 12th should be suffice enough to avoid having to enter a one off relegation matchQuote:
Originally Posted by monz6
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You could argue avoiding coming 12th should be suffice enough to avoid having to enter a one off relegation matchQuote:
Originally Posted by monz6
I like the ideas that have been put forward here, but just to expand on this one, could it be over 2 legs instead of a winner takes all scenario?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Also agree on NL1 going to 12 teams in time, especially if more clubs join at ZL3 moving forward. You could do this in 2 ways:
1- no relegation for 2 years (eg 2027 is 11 teams, 2028 is 12 teams, done via promotion)
2- no relegation for 1 year & zone league 1 winner plus grand final winner going up (or runner up if a team wins the league & grand final). This method could be replicated easily down to ZL3 to keep comps at 12
I think posters are getting too caught up on the excitement of one off games. Yes they are great but the idea that a team can lose its place in the top division because of a single bad day at the office just does not sit right with me. There are too many ramifications of going down and clubs potentially can be set back years.Quote:
Originally Posted by northern_swan
I understand what you’re saying but that’s just sport. So many grand finals are lost by the team that wasn’t the best all year, because they had an off day or didn’t get up for it as much as the other team. UFC fighters lose titles because they had an off day, even though they may be a better fighter than the person who beat them. You could also argue it should be three games instead of two. But it’s one. Both teams know that in advance and have the same amount of time to prepare for it. Also, what if the npl team wins game one 3-0 and has a shocker in game two and loses 4-0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
Yes but losing a grand final does not usually have long term ramifications on a club. You come back next season in the same division and you go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by monz6
Relegation however has the potential to completely tear a club apart and I just dont think a club should be at risk of suffering that fate over a one off 90 minute game of football.
And two games traditionally in our sport is the perfect number in this scenario as it does give you the chance to recover from a crazy fluke result.
If an NPL team is leading 3-0 in the first leg and lose the 2nd leg 4-0 then they probably dont deserve to be playing NPL
However if they completely dominate a match for 89mins but just have one of those days where it wont go into the net and go onto concede an own goal in the 90th minute well I think they deserve the chance to come back the following week to try and fix their shortcoming. If lightning strikes twice well thats unfortunate but they can have no complaints.
Overall you cant compare a grand final to a relegation playoff. The whole purpose of a grand final is to give the underdog the best possible chance of succeeding which is what we love to see in this country. A relegation playoff however should be construed so that the superior team has the better chance to advance as you want the best teams playing in the league the following season and making the competition as strong as can be.
To be fair in order to have a chance at an unlucky event like this you need to put in a solid 20 odd rounds of shite to qualify yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
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Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
You make some great points and I agree with a lot of them. I’m not really pro one and against the other to be honest. Two games would be just as good. More football who could complain. I just think that the one game format doesn’t make it unfair on the NPL team. They have a whole season not to come 11th and be in that position. It’s 21 chances to try and fix their shortcomings.
Nah. Some are way over thinking these scenarios. If teams wins 3-0 off 3 shots theyre still quality. finishing 2nd isnt a fluke in L1, finishing 2nd last isn't a fluke in NPL. 90 minutes is more than enough time to get a real result. Anything can happen and if you think you need a cry over any result than the next year the big ego club should go straight back up. Its pretty simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
Yeah its really not that simple. You are definitely underestimating how difficult it is to come back up when you do go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
But you have still done enough to not finish bottom of the table which is traditionally fulfilling the criteria to stay in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
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Don't you mean the EPL grand final?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
They don’t do grand finals in EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Great the game is on tonight. Great if you are a player, but it?s on field 2 for some reason and little shelter for the crowd. Must be a NPL game on field 1 ?
Attended one last year in England, Wigan won. Can't seem to get anything right. That's before we quietly mention that the EPL doesn't even have a playoffQuote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
According to Squadi it is on field 1. The Valo-Singleton game has also been moved onto field 1 tomorrow with the NPL Minor Semi-Final being played on field 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Wrong sport dipwadQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Toronto v westy is on field 1Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Do we think Toronto can overturn the 2 goalsQuote:
Originally Posted by Yesk21
Based on the first half…no (watch this prediction age like milk left in the sun)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
You were right, but not sure how, stags hit crossbar three times, damo missed one in third minute and westy. HadQuote:
Originally Posted by northern_swan
Fifteen injuries where ref had to stop the game,
Including a cramp eighty metres back down the field,
Good luck to them, let?s say they defended the 4-2 lead
Well.