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    Quote Originally Posted by monz6 View Post
    1980 minutes plus stoppage time during the normal season is surely more than enough time to avoid coming 11th
    You could argue avoiding coming 12th should be suffice enough to avoid having to enter a one off relegation match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jardelsimage View Post

    Mine is a small change to what is a brilliant initiative to our game. 2 teams up and 2 teams down. 1st and 2nd of 2nd division automatically promoted to NPL and the 2nd Division has a regular final series .

    The 12th team in NPL still automatically relegated then the 10th and 11th team do a one off relegation game to keep the excitement in week 1 of the finals series maybe on the Friday night, winner is safe loser gets relegated. No trophy presentation just one huge celebration for the winning team knowing they are safe.

    This will keep the bottom of the table in NPL even more alive then it already is now, will also allow NNSW to not have to align the 2 competitions to end on the same weekend which must be a logistical nightmare especially with the wet weather we have experienced in the past few seasons.
    I like the ideas that have been put forward here, but just to expand on this one, could it be over 2 legs instead of a winner takes all scenario?

    Also agree on NL1 going to 12 teams in time, especially if more clubs join at ZL3 moving forward. You could do this in 2 ways:
    1- no relegation for 2 years (eg 2027 is 11 teams, 2028 is 12 teams, done via promotion)
    2- no relegation for 1 year & zone league 1 winner plus grand final winner going up (or runner up if a team wins the league & grand final). This method could be replicated easily down to ZL3 to keep comps at 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern_swan View Post
    I like the ideas that have been put forward here, but just to expand on this one, could it be over 2 legs instead of a winner takes all scenario?

    Also agree on NL1 going to 12 teams in time, especially if more clubs join at ZL3 moving forward. You could do this in 2 ways:
    1- no relegation for 2 years (eg 2027 is 11 teams, 2028 is 12 teams, done via promotion)
    2- no relegation for 1 year & zone league 1 winner plus grand final winner going up (or runner up if a team wins the league & grand final). This method could be replicated easily down to ZL3 to keep comps at 12
    I think posters are getting too caught up on the excitement of one off games. Yes they are great but the idea that a team can lose its place in the top division because of a single bad day at the office just does not sit right with me. There are too many ramifications of going down and clubs potentially can be set back years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post
    You could argue avoiding coming 12th should be suffice enough to avoid having to enter a one off relegation match
    I understand what you’re saying but that’s just sport. So many grand finals are lost by the team that wasn’t the best all year, because they had an off day or didn’t get up for it as much as the other team. UFC fighters lose titles because they had an off day, even though they may be a better fighter than the person who beat them. You could also argue it should be three games instead of two. But it’s one. Both teams know that in advance and have the same amount of time to prepare for it. Also, what if the npl team wins game one 3-0 and has a shocker in game two and loses 4-0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monz6 View Post
    I understand what you?re saying but that?s just sport. So many grand finals are lost by the team that wasn?t the best all year, because they had an off day or didn?t get up for it as much as the other team. UFC fighters lose titles because they had an off day, even though they may be a better fighter than the person who beat them. You could also argue it should be three games instead of two. But it?s one. Both teams know that in advance and have the same amount of time to prepare for it. Also, what if the npl team wins game one 3-0 and has a shocker in game two and loses 4-0?
    Yes but losing a grand final does not usually have long term ramifications on a club. You come back next season in the same division and you go again.

    Relegation however has the potential to completely tear a club apart and I just dont think a club should be at risk of suffering that fate over a one off 90 minute game of football.

    And two games traditionally in our sport is the perfect number in this scenario as it does give you the chance to recover from a crazy fluke result.

    If an NPL team is leading 3-0 in the first leg and lose the 2nd leg 4-0 then they probably dont deserve to be playing NPL

    However if they completely dominate a match for 89mins but just have one of those days where it wont go into the net and go onto concede an own goal in the 90th minute well I think they deserve the chance to come back the following week to try and fix their shortcoming. If lightning strikes twice well thats unfortunate but they can have no complaints.

    Overall you cant compare a grand final to a relegation playoff. The whole purpose of a grand final is to give the underdog the best possible chance of succeeding which is what we love to see in this country. A relegation playoff however should be construed so that the superior team has the better chance to advance as you want the best teams playing in the league the following season and making the competition as strong as can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post

    However if they completely dominate a match for 89mins but just have one of those days where it wont go into the net and go onto concede an own goal in the 90th minute
    To be fair in order to have a chance at an unlucky event like this you need to put in a solid 20 odd rounds of shite to qualify yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post
    Yes but losing a grand final does not usually have long term ramifications on a club. You come back next season in the same division and you go again.

    Relegation however has the potential to completely tear a club apart and I just dont think a club should be at risk of suffering that fate over a one off 90 minute game of football.

    And two games traditionally in our sport is the perfect number in this scenario as it does give you the chance to recover from a crazy fluke result.

    If an NPL team is leading 3-0 in the first leg and lose the 2nd leg 4-0 then they probably dont deserve to be playing NPL

    However if they completely dominate a match for 89mins but just have one of those days where it wont go into the net and go onto concede an own goal in the 90th minute well I think they deserve the chance to come back the following week to try and fix their shortcoming. If lightning strikes twice well thats unfortunate but they can have no complaints.

    Overall you cant compare a grand final to a relegation playoff. The whole purpose of a grand final is to give the underdog the best possible chance of succeeding which is what we love to see in this country. A relegation playoff however should be construed so that the superior team has the better chance to advance as you want the best teams playing in the league the following season and making the competition as strong as can be.

    You make some great points and I agree with a lot of them. I’m not really pro one and against the other to be honest. Two games would be just as good. More football who could complain. I just think that the one game format doesn’t make it unfair on the NPL team. They have a whole season not to come 11th and be in that position. It’s 21 chances to try and fix their shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post
    And two games traditionally in our sport is the perfect number in this scenario as it does give you the chance to recover from a crazy fluke result.
    If an NPL team is leading 3-0 in the first leg and lose the 2nd leg 4-0 then they probably dont deserve to be playing NPL
    Nah. Some are way over thinking these scenarios. If teams wins 3-0 off 3 shots theyre still quality. finishing 2nd isnt a fluke in L1, finishing 2nd last isn't a fluke in NPL. 90 minutes is more than enough time to get a real result. Anything can happen and if you think you need a cry over any result than the next year the big ego club should go straight back up. Its pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Nah. Some are way over thinking these scenarios. If teams wins 3-0 off 3 shots theyre still quality. finishing 2nd isnt a fluke in L1, finishing 2nd last isn't a fluke in NPL. 90 minutes is more than enough time to get a real result. Anything can happen and if you think you need a cry over any result than the next year the big ego club should go straight back up. Its pretty simple.
    Yeah its really not that simple. You are definitely underestimating how difficult it is to come back up when you do go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    To be fair in order to have a chance at an unlucky event like this you need to put in a solid 20 odd rounds of shite to qualify yeah?
    But you have still done enough to not finish bottom of the table which is traditionally fulfilling the criteria to stay in the division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post
    the EPL playoff
    Don't you mean the EPL grand final?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Don't you mean the EPL grand final?
    They don’t do grand finals in England

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    Great the game is on tonight. Great if you are a player, but it?s on field 2 for some reason and little shelter for the crowd. Must be a NPL game on field 1 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonal Marking View Post
    They don?t do grand finals in England
    Attended one last year in England, Wigan won. Can't seem to get anything right. That's before we quietly mention that the EPL doesn't even have a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by GO AWAY View Post
    Great the game is on tonight. Great if you are a player, but it?s on field 2 for some reason and little shelter for the crowd. Must be a NPL game on field 1 ?
    According to Squadi it is on field 1. The Valo-Singleton game has also been moved onto field 1 tomorrow with the NPL Minor Semi-Final being played on field 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Attended one last year in England, Wigan won. Can't seem to get anything right. That's before we quietly mention that the EPL doesn't even have a playoff
    Wrong sport dipwad

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    Quote Originally Posted by GO AWAY View Post
    Great the game is on tonight. Great if you are a player, but it?s on field 2 for some reason and little shelter for the crowd. Must be a NPL game on field 1 ?
    Toronto v westy is on field 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yesk21 View Post
    Toronto v westy is on field 1
    Do we think Toronto can overturn the 2 goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    Do we think Toronto can overturn the 2 goals
    Based on the first half…no (watch this prediction age like milk left in the sun)

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern_swan View Post
    Based on the first half…no (watch this prediction age like milk left in the sun)
    You were right, but not sure how, stags hit crossbar three times, damo missed one in third minute and westy. Had
    Fifteen injuries where ref had to stop the game,
    Including a cramp eighty metres back down the field,
    Good luck to them, let?s say they defended the 4-2 lead
    Well.

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