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Or mentioning rugby league on a football forum...Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Or by judging a youth program by looking at players who have done most of their youth training in a different program?
To be fair no single player has spent the majority of their youth training in the program yet.
At best they've spent ~3 years in the program and the rest was done somewhere else (a previous club's program)...
My point is it's too early to make sweeping judgements on the EJ yet.
(I know, I know, flying off the handle prematurely is more the style for this forum)
Mate the ones who have been in it for a few years are showing little sign of drastic improvement you do realiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Guerny
The sides across all grades should be getting better each year as the training and skills they are being exposed to should be making them better than the last generation They are not
The kids approaching HAL are probably the least promising side they have ever had.
The kids who showed promise were not developed adequately to improve to the required level
Reality is the EJ has big problems and is getting worse
More hair gel required
Why is it better to develop your own talent pool of juniors rather than just poach the finished product from other clubs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guerny
I mean what would it cost to run this program for five years and what sort of return would you expect from this"investment" [ and I use the term "investment" very loosely].
Have heard around the traps that the Jets are actively trying to take some players from NPL clubs. Poor form considering the comp is in it's 4th week and will leave club sides short.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Obliviously don't give a shit about the local clubs.
Poor form I agree
They should have their players already
But not doing anything that any other NPL club isn't doing which is strengthening their squads if opportunity arises or is needed
It's a dog eat dog world out there. Same as when I remember a few years back the Jets Youth didn't finalise their squad until 2 weeks before the NPL season (it was the NBN state league back then) started. Luckliy enough the couple of players affected were able to find clubs but gee it's a crap way to treat players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Daresay, the Jets Youth are now dangling the carrot in front of some NPL players, offering them a "pathway" to the seniors and the A League. Three years back you probaly would have had young players jump at the opportunity but the reality is now that many realise the Jets Youth is a dead-end and their is virtually buckleys chance of getting a gig in the A League.
Surely the Jets realize that this will just bring bad publicity to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Hopefully the players they are chasing are decent blokes and remain at the club that have given them an opportunity.
The question also needs asking of why are the Jets now chasing players? Surely this would have been sorted and all the players selected long ago? Are there more problems out at Speers Point other than the ones we all are aware of?
Round one they were a little thin numerically for depth across grades with the players in the system
They have also pushed kids up grades who are probably not ready for the level they are playing at.
This is then snowballing through the grades weakening the 22s who are pulling kids up from the 19sand then weakening the 19s who ate then pulling kids up from below in the NPL Yoof
AS a result all 3 grades are becoming a patch work makeshift side each week with players playing above their ability and grade. Not good for player development or team cohesion and all that stuff
They should have had this sorted pre season with adequate strength and depth in all grades but it just another example of the cluster**** that the EJ is
The EJ program should be just rolling on by now with the kids being in the system year in year out and only adding the occasional addition here and there. But no every year mass changes occur kids leave kids get punted and they rebuild again
Hard to work out what is worse The Jets HAL club in recent years or the EJ program.
Both cluster**** due to poor management
This shit happens in all sports. It's hardly specific to the emerging Jets program. The focus is more on the people running the programs than there is on the development of the kids.
The simple rule of thumb is that if someone tells you your kid has potential and then asks you for money you tell them to piss off.
These programs need to carry the burden of risk that way the market will discipline them into making rational decisions / choosing only the kids most likely to succeed. Rather than hedging against failure by selecting the kids who's parents have the deepest pockets.
So what are they now 0 from 4 in the NPL
16 goals conceeded at an average of 4 a game
Why??
Why are there 5-6 defenders playing NPL not in the system who are old enough to play Jets Yoof but are either not wanted or choose to play elsewhere??
Why exactly are the kids Gary and Zane are backing getting towelled so convincingly yesterday by blokes like Kale Michael Kantarovski Finlayson and Virgili. IE blokes that done much more at the Jets than these kids have done and were still not deemed good enough
What is an embarrassment is that sometime soon Millertime has to pick 3 of them to giveHAL Yoof contracts too.
How the **** can he seriously do that??
You wouldn't pick any of them
Example, both the said coaches said that Goodwin wasn't up to it, Ange just picked 2 years after leaving the jets, you be the judgeQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
It was Stubbins that let Goodwin go.Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
So another hiding today for the First Grade side
Exactly what they think they achieving by getting pasted like this every week???
Bet you they still played the stupid FFA endorsed 4-3-3 to the death
Hopefully their pass completion and duel stats were up.
Because the only one that really matters is the scoreboard but that don't look too pretty
the Dutch are killing the euros :blush:ops
GVE hardly backed the kid when he was in charge either.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Personally, I think Goodwin has a lot of ability but a brain the size of a pea when it comes to making decisions. More often than not he seems to choose the high risk option which is great when it works but more often than not it can leave a team vulnerable.
This season gone Goodwin has had the roll of the dice. Next season is anyone's guess.
Much better player in Adelaide than he was at Jets or at Heart.
Goodwin had a great season with Adelaide, hence the move overseas to the Dutch Eredivise.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Having a slight build he has struggled at times since he burst onto the scene with heart a few years back but he has bulked up a bit in size the last 12 months meaning he can compete much better in the A League, which is admittedly a quite physical league.
Shows how critical having the right coach and mentor is for the development of a young player. Goodwin left at the beginning of Stubbins' tenure as Jets coach and has had two years under the Spanish contingent of first Gombau, then Amor.
Daresay, if he had been here last year under the Muppet it would have been a backwards year in his development no doubt!
Jets u15s defeated Matildas 7-0
lolololololololQuote:
Originally Posted by rhysd
Why is that funny?Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM
I thought it was a joke until I saw the official posting..
bit more perspective on it
https://twitter.com/KateCohenKCS
ya gotta larf though, guess who was on the sidelines for the matildas, old mate 9/11 himself, GVE
GVE has clearly had an immensely positive effect on the young'uns. His only role with the Matildas was to support his daughter.
Probably.
What isn't funny about a shit U/15s team flogging one of the best teams in women's soccer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
so they weren't good enough to play through an U/15s midfield, and weren't able to defend through balls? :rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
and the u/15s were very quick, yet the matildas wouldn't have lost if they played long balls of their own? :rof:
apologist in damage control ffs
All of it? 15 year old guys are still bigger and faster than fully grown women. You're expecting one of the best team in women's soccer, still made up of 50kg 150cm women to compete with 180cm+ guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM
Sweden lost to an U17 boys team recently
USWNT lost to the Men's U17 squad recently
USWNT lost to the Indian U16 boys squad a few years ago
Matilda's lost to Sydney FC U16 back in February as well
Go let some more goals in, will ya?
Matildas need to play a game against a Phil Stubbins coached male team to get their confidence back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
yes it's a training run, yes they're trying to play out from the back etc, but you'd think international coaches would be having a hard look at how ineffective the matildas appeared to be at dealing with a high, hard press. if going over the top is the solution, you'd just roll a couple of big boppers in to deal with the high balls they'd have to play to get around them? anyway all academic, i didn't see the game etc, must be a sexist
Only last week the state NSWCHS (that's NSW Combined High Schools) championships were held up at Nelson Bay. That's some of the best state school boys aged 13-16 year old running around from the south coast right up to the Qld border.
The opinion from an "observer" was that the boys from the Sydney regions are way ahead of boys from this region, in terms of technical ability, awareness and speed.
This gap is only going to get wider too if we in NNSW don't start investing in better coaching and start bringing in top coaches not only at youth development level but also NPL level.
I'm afraid could be a while before we see the next "Nick Cowburn" come up through the NNSW ranks/Jets youth to play at A League level if things don't change.
Lulz at the Daily Mail's take. Its headline:
http://i.imgur.com/VRkkOPP.png
And the comments ...
moving on, the emerging jets are now CHAMPIONS get on the cans lads, only Leed or Mellow Yellow though
So physicality is all that matters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
FMD nfi.
These women are among the best in women's football. They should be smart enough to beat some school kids ffs.
Try being 5 feet tall and defending against a 6ft defender with 30kg on you.
4 of the 7 goals were scored from crosses. Positioning was fine but how does being smart prevent you from being out muscled and out jumped in that situation?
While I think everyone is overreacting as it was a training run and the girls were missing heaps of player I simply can't stand this excuse. I've read it so many places. Crosses can be stopped before they get into the box. As a jets fan there's no way I'll excuse any goal next season because someone taller then our defenders out jumped them. Yeah it happens but it's not an excuse to sit back and say oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
This is as much a cop out as you're the points you are trying prove wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by monz6
*New point.. please take a breath before reading any further to avoid panty-bunching!*
The Matilda's don't play in the Newcastle U15s comp so the result is useless by itself, they need to be beating teams in the Women's World Cup and qualifiers, this match doesn't really affect that.
It also has nothing to do with the pay variations either. The Matildas deserve to be paid based on the time and effort they put in and the amount of income they bring to the business. And that is a totally different conversation than this thread.
Can we please stick to bagging out our local juniors in this thread and take our sexism to another thread?
None of what you just said has anything to do with what I said... Where was I being sexist? Whether it's boys vs girls, girls vs girls, boys vs girls you can just say "oh it's ok that goal went in cause the attackers taller".Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
No goals should be excused in my opinion. I did not mention pay or sexes don't put words in my mouth to fuel your own arguemnent.
Also what points am I trying to prove are wrong? Apart from the crosses one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
We'll all forget this when we beat England this weekend.
It's a slow news week, that's for sure.