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Thread: The Joke that is the Emerging Jets Program

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    or putting trump in as pres

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    Quote Originally Posted by GO AWAY View Post
    Its like picking Mitchell Pearce for State of Origin and putting him on the wing haha
    Or mentioning rugby league on a football forum...

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    Or by judging a youth program by looking at players who have done most of their youth training in a different program?

    To be fair no single player has spent the majority of their youth training in the program yet.
    At best they've spent ~3 years in the program and the rest was done somewhere else (a previous club's program)...

    My point is it's too early to make sweeping judgements on the EJ yet.

    (I know, I know, flying off the handle prematurely is more the style for this forum)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerny View Post
    Or by judging a youth program by looking at players who have done most of their youth training in a different program?

    To be fair no single player has spent the majority of their youth training in the program yet.
    At best they've spent ~3 years in the program and the rest was done somewhere else (a previous club's program)...

    My point is it's too early to make sweeping judgements on the EJ yet.

    (I know, I know, flying off the handle prematurely is more the style for this forum)
    Mate the ones who have been in it for a few years are showing little sign of drastic improvement you do realise

    The sides across all grades should be getting better each year as the training and skills they are being exposed to should be making them better than the last generation They are not

    The kids approaching HAL are probably the least promising side they have ever had.
    The kids who showed promise were not developed adequately to improve to the required level

    Reality is the EJ has big problems and is getting worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerny View Post
    Or by judging a youth program by looking at players who have done most of their youth training in a different program?

    To be fair no single player has spent the majority of their youth training in the program yet.
    At best they've spent ~3 years in the program and the rest was done somewhere else (a previous club's program)...

    My point is it's too early to make sweeping judgements on the EJ yet.

    (I know, I know, flying off the handle prematurely is more the style for this forum)
    Why is it better to develop your own talent pool of juniors rather than just poach the finished product from other clubs?

    I mean what would it cost to run this program for five years and what sort of return would you expect from this"investment" [ and I use the term "investment" very loosely].

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    ill get the pitchfork, going to jam it in a few jets management asses
    Have heard around the traps that the Jets are actively trying to take some players from NPL clubs. Poor form considering the comp is in it's 4th week and will leave club sides short.

    Obliviously don't give a shit about the local clubs.

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    Poor form I agree

    They should have their players already

    But not doing anything that any other NPL club isn't doing which is strengthening their squads if opportunity arises or is needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago View Post
    Have heard around the traps that the Jets are actively trying to take some players from NPL clubs. Poor form considering the comp is in it's 4th week and will leave club sides short.

    Obliviously don't give a shit about the local clubs.
    It's a dog eat dog world out there. Same as when I remember a few years back the Jets Youth didn't finalise their squad until 2 weeks before the NPL season (it was the NBN state league back then) started. Luckliy enough the couple of players affected were able to find clubs but gee it's a crap way to treat players.

    Daresay, the Jets Youth are now dangling the carrot in front of some NPL players, offering them a "pathway" to the seniors and the A League. Three years back you probaly would have had young players jump at the opportunity but the reality is now that many realise the Jets Youth is a dead-end and their is virtually buckleys chance of getting a gig in the A League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    It's a dog eat dog world out there. Same as when I remember a few years back the Jets Youth didn't finalise their squad until 2 weeks before the NPL season (it was the NBN state league back then) started. Luckliy enough the couple of players affected were able to find clubs but gee it's a crap way to treat players.

    Daresay, the Jets Youth are now dangling the carrot in front of some NPL players, offering them a "pathway" to the seniors and the A League. Three years back you probaly would have had young players jump at the opportunity but the reality is now that many realise the Jets Youth is a dead-end and their is virtually buckleys chance of getting a gig in the A League.
    Surely the Jets realize that this will just bring bad publicity to them.
    Hopefully the players they are chasing are decent blokes and remain at the club that have given them an opportunity.
    The question also needs asking of why are the Jets now chasing players? Surely this would have been sorted and all the players selected long ago? Are there more problems out at Speers Point other than the ones we all are aware of?

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    Round one they were a little thin numerically for depth across grades with the players in the system

    They have also pushed kids up grades who are probably not ready for the level they are playing at.

    This is then snowballing through the grades weakening the 22s who are pulling kids up from the 19sand then weakening the 19s who ate then pulling kids up from below in the NPL Yoof

    AS a result all 3 grades are becoming a patch work makeshift side each week with players playing above their ability and grade. Not good for player development or team cohesion and all that stuff

    They should have had this sorted pre season with adequate strength and depth in all grades but it just another example of the cluster**** that the EJ is

    The EJ program should be just rolling on by now with the kids being in the system year in year out and only adding the occasional addition here and there. But no every year mass changes occur kids leave kids get punted and they rebuild again

    Hard to work out what is worse The Jets HAL club in recent years or the EJ program.
    Both cluster**** due to poor management

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    This shit happens in all sports. It's hardly specific to the emerging Jets program. The focus is more on the people running the programs than there is on the development of the kids.
    The simple rule of thumb is that if someone tells you your kid has potential and then asks you for money you tell them to piss off.
    These programs need to carry the burden of risk that way the market will discipline them into making rational decisions / choosing only the kids most likely to succeed. Rather than hedging against failure by selecting the kids who's parents have the deepest pockets.
    Last edited by The Dunster; 30-04-2016 at 08:46 AM.

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    So what are they now 0 from 4 in the NPL

    16 goals conceeded at an average of 4 a game

    Why??


    Why are there 5-6 defenders playing NPL not in the system who are old enough to play Jets Yoof but are either not wanted or choose to play elsewhere??

    Why exactly are the kids Gary and Zane are backing getting towelled so convincingly yesterday by blokes like Kale Michael Kantarovski Finlayson and Virgili. IE blokes that done much more at the Jets than these kids have done and were still not deemed good enough


    What is an embarrassment is that sometime soon Millertime has to pick 3 of them to giveHAL Yoof contracts too.

    How the **** can he seriously do that??

    You wouldn't pick any of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    So what are they now 0 from 4 in the NPL

    16 goals conceeded at an average of 4 a game

    Why??


    Why are there 5-6 defenders playing NPL not in the system who are old enough to play Jets Yoof but are either not wanted or choose to play elsewhere??

    Why exactly are the kids Gary and Zane are backing getting towelled so convincingly yesterday by blokes like Kale Michael Kantarovski Finlayson and Virgili. IE blokes that done much more at the Jets than these kids have done and were still not deemed good enough


    What is an embarrassment is that sometime soon Millertime has to pick 3 of them to giveHAL Yoof contracts too.

    How the **** can he seriously do that??

    You wouldn't pick any of them
    Example, both the said coaches said that Goodwin wasn't up to it, Ange just picked 2 years after leaving the jets, you be the judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    Example, both the said coaches said that Goodwin wasn't up to it, Ange just picked 2 years after leaving the jets, you be the judge
    It was Stubbins that let Goodwin go.

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    So another hiding today for the First Grade side

    Exactly what they think they achieving by getting pasted like this every week???

    Bet you they still played the stupid FFA endorsed 4-3-3 to the death

    Hopefully their pass completion and duel stats were up.

    Because the only one that really matters is the scoreboard but that don't look too pretty

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    the Dutch are killing the euros ops

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    It was Stubbins that let Goodwin go.
    GVE hardly backed the kid when he was in charge either.

    Personally, I think Goodwin has a lot of ability but a brain the size of a pea when it comes to making decisions. More often than not he seems to choose the high risk option which is great when it works but more often than not it can leave a team vulnerable.

    This season gone Goodwin has had the roll of the dice. Next season is anyone's guess.

    Much better player in Adelaide than he was at Jets or at Heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    GVE hardly backed the kid when he was in charge either.

    Personally, I think Goodwin has a lot of ability but a brain the size of a pea when it comes to making decisions. More often than not he seems to choose the high risk option which is great when it works but more often than not it can leave a team vulnerable.

    This season gone Goodwin has had the roll of the dice. Next season is anyone's guess.

    Much better player in Adelaide than he was at Jets or at Heart.
    Goodwin had a great season with Adelaide, hence the move overseas to the Dutch Eredivise.
    Having a slight build he has struggled at times since he burst onto the scene with heart a few years back but he has bulked up a bit in size the last 12 months meaning he can compete much better in the A League, which is admittedly a quite physical league.

    Shows how critical having the right coach and mentor is for the development of a young player. Goodwin left at the beginning of Stubbins' tenure as Jets coach and has had two years under the Spanish contingent of first Gombau, then Amor.
    Daresay, if he had been here last year under the Muppet it would have been a backwards year in his development no doubt!

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