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Where exactly is it OK for the players to abuse the ref??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Refs make a rod for their own back by allowing dissent in the first place from the players.
Maybe they should actually apply the rules correctly instead of moaning about it
Yeah and making it a 12 team comp will do wonders for the standard as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Sure, reply to one comment and ignore the rest. Whatever works.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'd love to hear the reactions of players and spectators and coaches and tin hat enthusiasts if players were sent off for telling the ref to "eff off" after making a call.
Wouldn't have any players left to play.
Now, tell me how you'd improve the referees member? This is probably like the 4th time I've asked you this question...
****s can moan all they like about players getting sent for telling the ref to **** off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Problem is they are the rules.
Always have been there. It is down to the referees to enforce them
Ideas to improve the standard of referees
Firstly enforce the rules as they are.
Secondly hammer the shit out of dissent from the players and officials of the clubs
Thirdly mandatory eye tests for the officials and their guide dogs
Fourthly learn the ****ing rules of the game
Fifthly remove the bullshit about feel for the game and fear of making decisions. The refs job is to enforce the rules impartialily not to dictate an 11v 11 contest
What's the chances this " trial " game tonight will be called off ?
Number 1 ground in Newcastle, surely a little rain should not be enough to call it off. Maybe they can close the roofQuote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Nothing game with nobody interested in it why not call it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanky
Nnsw will reimburse magic for lost beer/canteen sales surely 😊, seems they're out of FFA cup and don't make any money from being knocked out ..... Oh hangon ☺️Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanky
Tools on here who hide behind a keyboard are the only one's scared, 5 years in the NPL golden boot 2 of those, what's to be scared off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonester
Could always play it at that state of the art facility at Speers Point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Ohh hang on. No viewing areas
What's the weather like in Coffs?Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Not raining at lyall peacockQuote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Jets Twitter account says game is off tonight
Newcastle Jets @NewcastleJetsFC 7m7 minutes ago
ALERT: Unfortunately tonight's #NEWvNPL friendly has been postponed due to bad weather ยป http://bit.ly/29TFxqe
I suppose the under 12s are training at speers point, can't halt their progress, how hard would it be to transfer the match to the all weather state of the art facility
Are the lights up to standard ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Where is All of the under cover seating ?
Is there a players race ?
Where would everyone park ?
This dog piss of rain was a blessing in disguise for northern. Players kept pulling out,the jets dont want to play it,etc . the game is nothing so what is the point of the chance of injurying players to play a second string youth team that we play each week anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Lyall PeacockQuote:
Originally Posted by winner
Are the lights up to standard ( yes ) not on foxtel
Under cover seating ( Yes )
Players race ( please )
Parking ( Shitloads more then Magic Park )
What does it matter, no one was going anyway. Why don't they just organise a game of Kelly Pool, they'll all get as much out of it and the Jets might even get a win.
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Where's the development? It's coming towards the end of the season and the same referees are still making the same mistakes and the quality hasn't been improving. Players get better (well usually) throughout the year because they get coaching, practice and game time. What are the referee associations and Northern doing to develop their current pool? Sitting on their ass and saying you can't say anything to the ref is just a band-aid solution when they really should be looking at developing the people they do have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
I'm not blaming the referees for their incompetence, I'm blaming the people in charge that should be improving them but aren't doing a very good job at it.
Actually, you're wrong. The state league refs have bimonthly meetings which feature a coaching session, plus monthly dedicated coaching sessions for different levels of refs, plus training twice a week. So hardly sitting on their arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
In terms of decisions, how many people know the difference between careless, reckless or excessive force, or the criteria used to distinguish DOGSO from BUPA? If people don't properly know the rules, the decisions by the refs will appear wrong.
When I go sit at a game and see a player dive in with force with his studs up and get the opposition player I don't need to know the rules verbatim to see the incompetence from the refs when one will book one will red card and the other gives a free kickQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
This isn't exactly a rare event either as you see dozens of studs up aggressive tackles go in punished each season
It not a case of fans perception being incorrect it is just mind blowing inconsistency and incompetence from the officials failing to apply the rules and punishment correctly
There are good young ref's coming thru the systems
Biggest problem I see is these young ones also play play the game. These are the ones you want to develop but they need to train 2-3 tines a week with thier club and then play on the weekend.
Referees want two training sessions and a day out of the weekend to ref
So usually a choice has to be made and playing wins
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Playing is far more rewarding and fun than refereeing for a young person.
Even quite a few All Age referees are quite good, and manage the game really well, enjoy refereeing park sokkah and just have no desire to go to the next level. Which nobody can blame them for.
So unfortunately, that leaves a small pool of referees willing to referee NPL, and even less actually capable of doing so. Last few rounds normally see a few referees going for their upgrades, so new referees to this level, so it'll be interesting to see the comments made when these new inexperienced faces replace their "same week in, mistake laden" experienced referees.
Can anyone else see the comparisons here ... first pre season hit out
Newcastle Jets v NPL Select at Broadmeadow
Melbourne Victory v Juventus at Etihad
Just doesn't seem same playing field haha
Yeah but Juve B is about on par with NPL :brrr:Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Hey RAM , you should have read that through before you posted it, I think it should have read Juve B Under 16's
So how much better are Nice than the Matilda's??
Watched some Victorian NPL at the weekend, it's no better than our NPL
And I'm also right because they are quite obviously not doing a very good job at improving them and these meetings/sessions aren't very effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Who did you watch??Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...premier-league
Now it rather bizarre that the EPL think these methods will work to reduce remove dissent.
Shame they should just have been dealing with it in the past so it wasn't a problem.
Maybe the precious types reffing in NNSW can also enforce similar standards??
Pretty sure they do, but they get shot down pretty quick for being too precious and not having a thick enough skin.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Will be interesting how long the EPL refs stick to their guns and to what extent they deal with dissent
After seeing the back of a couple team sheets this year I think we should be more worried about players being sent off for "decent" and "descent".
Had enough of hearing about refs tbh.
How about this for a theory regarding the NPL V Jets game........... scrap it, especially as a midweek fixture, just plain stupidity.
I reckon, after the season is finished there should be a game between Newcastle NPL and Sydney NPL
Both federations select via the same rules.
Top five teams at season end, get two selected in the side, bottom five teams get one selected in the side. To stop a coach picking his whole club team to put them on show against an A-League club.
Game played weekend after the Grand Final at a NEUTRAL VENUE, Lyall Peacock, Macquarie Field alternating with Sydney.
Have a Under 22 select as well, play before it but players must play 50% of the season as a starting 20s/22s player
Would give us a better gauge of where we are at instead of a nothing trial game v the jets. Let them trial against A-League or International competition.
Carve away boys ...haha
No carving from me GA, I like it, makes a lot of sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Makes a lot of sense and is a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Yep a much better idea, would gauge were our comp is at
And next year we could with same age groups ie 1st grade 20's and 18's
Now we just need NNSW and NSW Football to put heads together and get it organised, id much rather watch this on a Saturday night or Sunday afternoon at Lyall Peacock or Macquarie Field in September then go watch them play Jets mid week in the middle of our comp.
True Newcastle V Sydney rivalry....