2016 National Premier League thread

[Thomas477]

Where's the development? It's coming towards the end of the season and the same referees are still making the same mistakes and the quality hasn't been improving. Players get better (well usually) throughout the year because they get coaching, practice and game time. What are the referee associations and Northern doing to develop their current pool? Sitting on their ass and saying you can't say anything to the ref is just a band-aid solution when they really should be looking at developing the people they do have.

I'm not blaming the referees for their incompetence, I'm blaming the people in charge that should be improving them but aren't doing a very good job at it.

Actually, you're wrong. The state league refs have bimonthly meetings which feature a coaching session, plus monthly dedicated coaching sessions for different levels of refs, plus training twice a week. So hardly sitting on their arse.

In terms of decisions, how many people know the difference between careless, reckless or excessive force, or the criteria used to distinguish DOGSO from BUPA? If people don't properly know the rules, the decisions by the refs will appear wrong.

[MFKS]

Actually, you're wrong. The state league refs have bimonthly meetings which feature a coaching session, plus monthly dedicated coaching sessions for different levels of refs, plus training twice a week. So hardly sitting on their arse.

In terms of decisions, how many people know the difference between careless, reckless or excessive force, or the criteria used to distinguish DOGSO from BUPA? If people don't properly know the rules, the decisions by the refs will appear wrong.

When I go sit at a game and see a player dive in with force with his studs up and get the opposition player I don't need to know the rules verbatim to see the incompetence from the refs when one will book one will red card and the other gives a free kick

This isn't exactly a rare event either as you see dozens of studs up aggressive tackles go in punished each season

It not a case of fans perception being incorrect it is just mind blowing inconsistency and incompetence from the officials failing to apply the rules and punishment correctly

[Bremsstrahlung]

http://areferee.com/soccer.php

[Why Blue]

There are good young ref's coming thru the systems

Biggest problem I see is these young ones also play play the game. These are the ones you want to develop but they need to train 2-3 tines a week with thier club and then play on the weekend.
Referees want two training sessions and a day out of the weekend to ref

So usually a choice has to be made and playing wins

[Bremsstrahlung]

There are good young ref's coming thru the systems

Biggest problem I see is these young ones also play play the game. These are the ones you want to develop but they need to train 2-3 tines a week with thier club and then play on the weekend.
Referees want two training sessions and a day out of the weekend to ref

So usually a choice has to be made and playing wins

Good point.
Playing is far more rewarding and fun than refereeing for a young person.
Even quite a few All Age referees are quite good, and manage the game really well, enjoy refereeing park sokkah and just have no desire to go to the next level. Which nobody can blame them for.

So unfortunately, that leaves a small pool of referees willing to referee NPL, and even less actually capable of doing so. Last few rounds normally see a few referees going for their upgrades, so new referees to this level, so it'll be interesting to see the comments made when these new inexperienced faces replace their "same week in, mistake laden" experienced referees.

[GO AWAY]

Can anyone else see the comparisons here ... first pre season hit out

Newcastle Jets v NPL Select at Broadmeadow
Melbourne Victory v Juventus at Etihad

Just doesn't seem same playing field haha

[RAM]

Can anyone else see the comparisons here ... first pre season hit out

Newcastle Jets v NPL Select at Broadmeadow
Melbourne Victory v Juventus at Etihad

Just doesn't seem same playing field haha

Yeah but Juve B is about on par with NPL

[The Acolyte]

Hey RAM , you should have read that through before you posted it, I think it should have read Juve B Under 16's

[MFKS]

So how much better are Nice than the Matilda's??

[mervan]

Watched some Victorian NPL at the weekend, it's no better than our NPL

[Goatscheese]

Actually, you're wrong. The state league refs have bimonthly meetings which feature a coaching session, plus monthly dedicated coaching sessions for different levels of refs, plus training twice a week. So hardly sitting on their arse.

And I'm also right because they are quite obviously not doing a very good job at improving them and these meetings/sessions aren't very effective.

[magician]

Watched some Victorian NPL at the weekend, it's no better than our NPL

Who did you watch??

[MFKS]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...premier-league

Now it rather bizarre that the EPL think these methods will work to reduce remove dissent.


Shame they should just have been dealing with it in the past so it wasn't a problem.


Maybe the precious types reffing in NNSW can also enforce similar standards??

[Stryker]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...premier-league

Now it rather bizarre that the EPL think these methods will work to reduce remove dissent.


Shame they should just have been dealing with it in the past so it wasn't a problem.


Maybe the precious types reffing in NNSW can also enforce similar standards??

Pretty sure they do, but they get shot down pretty quick for being too precious and not having a thick enough skin.

Will be interesting how long the EPL refs stick to their guns and to what extent they deal with dissent

[The Postman]

After seeing the back of a couple team sheets this year I think we should be more worried about players being sent off for "decent" and "descent".

[GO AWAY]

Had enough of hearing about refs tbh.

How about this for a theory regarding the NPL V Jets game........... scrap it, especially as a midweek fixture, just plain stupidity.
I reckon, after the season is finished there should be a game between Newcastle NPL and Sydney NPL
Both federations select via the same rules.
Top five teams at season end, get two selected in the side, bottom five teams get one selected in the side. To stop a coach picking his whole club team to put them on show against an A-League club.
Game played weekend after the Grand Final at a NEUTRAL VENUE, Lyall Peacock, Macquarie Field alternating with Sydney.
Have a Under 22 select as well, play before it but players must play 50% of the season as a starting 20s/22s player
Would give us a better gauge of where we are at instead of a nothing trial game v the jets. Let them trial against A-League or International competition.
Carve away boys ...haha

[hamburgler]

Had enough of hearing about refs tbh.

How about this for a theory regarding the NPL V Jets game........... scrap it, especially as a midweek fixture, just plain stupidity.
I reckon, after the season is finished there should be a game between Newcastle NPL and Sydney NPL
Both federations select via the same rules.
Top five teams at season end, get two selected in the side, bottom five teams get one selected in the side. To stop a coach picking his whole club team to put them on show against an A-League club.
Game played weekend after the Grand Final at a NEUTRAL VENUE, Lyall Peacock, Macquarie Field alternating with Sydney.
Have a Under 22 select as well, play before it but players must play 50% of the season as a starting 20s/22s player
Would give us a better gauge of where we are at instead of a nothing trial game v the jets. Let them trial against A-League or International competition.
Carve away boys ...haha

No carving from me GA, I like it, makes a lot of sense!

[onlooker]

Had enough of hearing about refs tbh.

How about this for a theory regarding the NPL V Jets game........... scrap it, especially as a midweek fixture, just plain stupidity.
I reckon, after the season is finished there should be a game between Newcastle NPL and Sydney NPL
Both federations select via the same rules.
Top five teams at season end, get two selected in the side, bottom five teams get one selected in the side. To stop a coach picking his whole club team to put them on show against an A-League club.
Game played weekend after the Grand Final at a NEUTRAL VENUE, Lyall Peacock, Macquarie Field alternating with Sydney.
Have a Under 22 select as well, play before it but players must play 50% of the season as a starting 20s/22s player
Would give us a better gauge of where we are at instead of a nothing trial game v the jets. Let them trial against A-League or International competition.
Carve away boys ...haha

Makes a lot of sense and is a great idea.

[Why Blue]

Yep a much better idea, would gauge were our comp is at

And next year we could with same age groups ie 1st grade 20's and 18's

[GO AWAY]

Now we just need NNSW and NSW Football to put heads together and get it organised, id much rather watch this on a Saturday night or Sunday afternoon at Lyall Peacock or Macquarie Field in September then go watch them play Jets mid week in the middle of our comp.
True Newcastle V Sydney rivalry....