No. FFA ban so all Australian domestic comps. He's still free to play in ACL or internationals.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
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No. FFA ban so all Australian domestic comps. He's still free to play in ACL or internationals.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
If this is the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Send him on loan to an NPL club
Ban can be chalked off there
And do it with a smile on our faces giving the ****wits at the FFA the 2 finger salute
I think there’s a big difference between a high foot and someone lunging in off the ground going for a ball with every intention to clean up the man. Muscat’s tackle on Zahra was so much worse than this, as was Brama’s on Gameiro this season. Those tackles had malice & intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
If Roy missed Thomas by half a foot, does he even see red? What is the red based on? Contact? Intent? Dangerousness? Extent of the injury? No-one ****ing knows which is why the suspension is a lottery. If it’s dangerousness, there’s a lot of high foots that could be deemed red. Look at Delbridge’s red against the Mariners this year and tell me why that doesn’t get similar?
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
I find it disgusting, especially after elbowing him in the face and breaking his eye socket a few minutes before. Oh but that was "unintentional", of course...
This is the sort of injustice that creates a very high level of frustration in the player and fans.
I remember Smeltz destroying Birrraz's mouth: isn't that exactly the same situation? Actually much worse becuse he knew the keeper's head was there, and he caused actual damage. But he played for Syd FFA, so... not even a foul.
That's not how it works. He wouldn't be eligible for A-League games whilst registered and playing in the NPL so wouldn't be missing A-League games. If he did go and went to Malaysia or whatever, he would still be banned for 10 games in HAL if he ever came back.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
So if it works that way then it probably in our and Roys interests to find him another club not in Australia and part company then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
If we finish top two and do our usual one and done cup run, he's here for less than a third of our games. Money well spent.
You mean he’s out for just over a third?
27 rounds.
1 FFA Cup at least, hopefully at least 2.
10/28 he will miss.
He’s here for 18 games at minimum.
The previous face knock, the match situation, reference from Thomas, apologies, lack of injury.....none of that appears to have made any difference.
The weird summary by the chairman doesnt make it sound any better. They were in for him no matter what but the inconsistency in these judgements is what irks most.
Appeal and get it down to 6.
I actually meant to say less than two thirds but yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
In for him??Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
That it went to a panel and he didnt get a set suspension a day or two after the game says they were in for him
That they couldnt make decision on the day of the hearing and needed 48 hours to come up with it says they were in for him
Throw in the odd groin strain he is good for at least once a season and so yeh we f^&*$d.
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Originally Posted by MFKS
Absolutely. Only need to read Marshall's quotes in the media leading up to Fri they had it in for him. I thought Marshall's quotes if anything demonstrated a clear bias against Roy and showed no intention of a fair hearing and more importantly fair time out of the game outcome. His verbal if the reporting is also correct with Lawrie during the initial hearing would lend support to the theory Roy was on a hiding to nothing before the whole hire a independent Kangaroo Court process commenced. .
Just another example of FFA's blundering handling of the game and why these gravy train passengers the ilk of Gallop need to jog on and leave the game every opportunity to recover from there overstay'd incompetence.
Lawrence Thomas delivered a vicious headbut to Roys foot and Roy the victim of the attack gets a 10 week suspension.
FFA have no idea.
another concern i have is that any future red card he gets will probably result in several weeks of suspension (unless there is no "past record" type criteria in determining the suspensions)
the bloke is a liability - we should offload him as soon as possible
taking up money under the salary cap with zero return for ten games, then to be fair, he won't exactly setting the A-League on fire for the remaining eighteen games, less FFA Cup game(s)
there's also a very good chance that he'll be suspended for a portion of those remaining games by some stupid bullshit like this again
Thomas' head should be his last kick for the Jets
Tend to agree. No doubting his ability but at the end of the day there has to be value for your spend and sitting in the stands is not it especially self inflicted stints out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
I think we can do better
Bloke has only really turned it on against the Gypos which doesnt say a lot.
Was pretty dissappointing when he came back from injury in getting on chances
If we can fandangle him out of the equation somehow I back Bert and Griff to find us someone better
You should always back your own lad regardless in these types of matters.
That people here are talking about getting rid of Roy is a disgrace.
Roy ****ed up sure but he's one of ours and we need to standby him. To do anything else is a pissweak act.
This. We’ve been crying out for years for an aggressive striker who is desperate to score goals and win games and shows that passion a lot of top strikers have. You take the good with the bad. Now we have one who crossed a line, copped an over the top lynching from the FFA and now ppl want to dump him? I think we look to sign a solid starting striker and Roy will know he has to fight to win his spot back. We need a second striker anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
To be fair, the service he got since he came back was pretty ordinary...Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Not a case of not standing by himQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I honrstly believe we can do better for a foreigner spot
I honestly believe there are better options out there Roy in this league already
People can say he has had bad service recently but he has scored 4 goals in 16 appearances for us.
Smashing goals past a shit team like the Gypos are only inflating his stats falsely
We now fighting for titles not the spoon so we need to start upping the ambition in our players
Roy aint the bloke to lead us to trophies never will be
Didn't see too many people questioning his ability 5 games in.
Roy does more than score goals. He's a leader with a wealth of experience and knowledge and would have played a big part in Nabbout's success as a striker for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
We finally have a team to be proud of and people are complaining ?
The players here are on a hiding to nothing - they could win the ACL and people would say "yeah but unless they win the FIFA World Club World Cup" ... and so on.
Then in the next breath fans start questioning player loyalty - it's ****ing ridiculous.
I love how people think it is so easy to clear players out at the drop of a hat.
Roy ain't going anywhere yet so live with it. We do need another quality striker anyway. When Roy is back he will then have to fight for his position before his contract is up.
I'm with Dunster. We could have 22 superstars and there would be a thread here to get rid of the passenger taking the 23rd spot.
I can see the point of view that the bloke has form and needs some personal accountability in all this.
It's one thing to be a good clubman and bleed for the shirt blah blah blah but the reality is hes sitting for 10 games providing nothing for that same damn shirt
But
If anyone is surprised by his actions then they are a dope and need to get a foxtel account.
This is exactly who we signed, if you hated on the signing back in the day then ok but to now be mortified and stupefied by it. Well gosh I dunno what I can do for you.
This is a salary capped league and squad restricted league you don't get the luxury of just going down to the local buy a A League player shop and purchase a striker because we needed a second striker anyway. Some clubs in this league can't even find themselves a half decent starting striker let alone a second " decent striker " FFS. And BTW those making Nabs references he came to us as a wide player and we were very fortunate he was able to adapt and contribute with some quality work in a UNFAMILIAR role not as a recognised second striker.
With Roy's wealth of knowledge and experience he still fudged up and has now left this club in a difficult situation through nobody elses fault but his. This is not abandoning Roy but more about not giving the bloke a free pass for his actions because as it stands this club not going to get any dispensation free passes for his actions.
This find a decent second striker is a load of rubbish, Anybody who thinks they are a decent striker ain't coming here to be second fiddle after Roy returns and if they did have that mentality is that the type of player we want , A happy bench warmer ?. And think about this when people say find a decent second striker what they are really saying is lets find another Nabs, Yep plenty of those in stock at the A League player shop just waiting to be purchased by the club.They are everywhere at discounted prices just for clubs in our predicament.
The club is bigger than any individual or this past season was all about nothing and we go back to fighting for wooden porridge stirrers as the member said.Respect peoples right to call it for what it is and that is Roy out for over ( on current FFA cup form ) a third of our regular A League season. Who are the real losers in all this, The club and its supporters and only Roy if there was some clause in his contract regarding garnishing of wages in the event of lengthy suspensions.
And PS when you drill down the the figures or more the point the realities most of Roy's success did come against one the most shittiest defensive teams this League has ever seen. Just Say'n.
That is my rant.
My original point is we don't buy a "second" striker. We get a numero uno and Roy has to fight his way back.
If he does, great, if not he is released at the end of his contract.
The way Roy is being treated by the FFA is the issue not Roy. Berisha in the very same game commits a similar offence and nothing happens. Smeltz in the past has commited far worse offences - again no case to answer for - Muscat did similar things on a weekly basis, and one tackle, one of the most horrendous in history scored two weeks less than Roy's effort where the damage was only a minor graze.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Then you have the shit Bobo got away with on Manny Muscat, and the countless other dodgy challenges SFC have nothing to answer for... and so on.
Roy's not the problem here, he's not doing anything Berisha and others do on a regular basis. The only difference here is that Roy is a Newcastle Jet and the rules for us are different.
If you don't back Roy you are not a Jets fan.
Geez you make it sound like that is a bad thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
You’re right. There isn’t a single striker available in world football. We shouldn’t even look tbh. Waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I don't think you get to tell me i am not a Jets fan. Just as i have no right to judge you. Show some respect for people to have an alternative view to yours might be a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Plenty of strikers Halo. But my point was in a salary capped and squad limited league is it not hard to fit two of quality in to a squad of just over 20 ?. Without wanting to speak for the member i think this is what he may have been alluding to with such tight restrictions , You really only get one shot at a decent 9 and at present our shot is a bloke with a very short fuse and a history of injuries hampering consistent game time. I can recall a bloke posting on the Herald comments when the story was printed of our signing Roy he was a injury liability let alone suspensions.
Fitting 2 strikers into a squad of 23 shouldn’t be difficult. I’m not saying we sign the next Bobo but surely we should have 2 for the sake of competition anyway, suspension aside.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I have no issue at all with people disagreeing with me or thinking I'm a khunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I respectfully disagree with you but would never think of you asa khunt based on a difference of opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Cheers
Well in that case I apologise for the tone of my post. It wasn't meant to be offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Absolute toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
The bloke offers this
Runs around and chases shit
Bit of poaching in the box
Cynical violent fouls
That is about it
This is replaceable
The bloke doesnt have the ability to.score goals from free kicks out of nothing etc and aint going to carry a team to glory ala Griff
We want to be a Top 4 type of side and fight for the title most years then ask yourself this.
Do Heart Victree WSW Smurfs want to sign this bloke??
Bobo Fornaroli Berisha Riera
They already have a superior player.
They wouldnt touch him
When we signed him he was a good fit for us as all we wanted to do was go up.
Well his time has now passed by.
We are up the league and we need to start looking for blokes who will keep us there.
As for his violence he has headbutted Muscat, got sent off V Heart for a studs up foul, got sent off for punching a Smurf and now sent off for kicking a keeper in the head in the dumbest of plays
This aint some flawed genius like Zidane or Griffo who you can turn a blind eye to his indiscretions.
As for your suggestions he had anything to do with Nabbouts form. FMD. We will give Nabbout credit for it.
Next thing you be doing is saying Roy is responsible for Timmy going to Russia
Didn't we just play a GF and only lost becuse of a "glitch"?
Looks like suddenly all the other teams are far better than us...