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This is what I'm getting at. Its not unrealistic. People just want to accept shit because that's what we've been dished up for the past years. I'm giving out a decent squad that not everyone would agree on every player but if we got together 80% I bet we'd be comfortably in the top 6 and attract decent crowds.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Just wanted to make sure you knew that my comment yesterday was aimed at the guys who keep shutting down every player that gets mentioned and get all red in the cheeks when someone mentions squad player. I agree with them that we need to be signing first teamers only, but i don't see us having the ability to attract them next year. George and Caravan aren't exactly cream players like Burns and Paartalu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
I agree with you that it isn't hard to make up a decent team in this league without breaking the bank other than the fact that we have nothing to intice players other than a new addition to their cutlery drawer at home.
I also think the member is right that we need to be careful not to load up contracts with heavy wages for players who aren't going to perform for us. I would love to see us offer incentive heavy contracts to players. Not just goals bonuses and clean sheet bonuses but 1, 2 & 3 year options with pay increases each year that the club can activate should they choose. Players then have incentive to play better and know that if they stay around they will get more money.
I like that thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Put them all on win bonuses only
Might get a few of them to aim up and actually give a **** about the club
Problem with incentive contracts is we still have a salary floor and cap. No good having win bonuses if when we don't win we still end up having to pay the players anyway
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Originally Posted by MFKS
You work for tips do ya?
Plenty of people work on Commission for performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
What's wrong with these blokes doing same same ??
We have offered salary and that don't work
Maybe incentive based is what we need
I don't mean win based contracts. Too hard to quantify per player.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'm saying you sign a player for 2 years on $80k a season with 1, 2 & 3 year options with a $20k a year increase.
After 2 years the club has the option to keep them for another year on wages of $100k, after another year they can resign them on $120k and same after the players 4th year with the club.
The club has power over whether or not the player stays or goes. The player has an incentive to stay contracted in the form of increased wages. If they aren't good enough then we don't resign them. There aren't transfer fees so there is no risk of letting players run their contract down. If a new coach comes in and doesn't like a few players he can easily move a few off the books and replace them with whoever he wants.
Sounds great in theory, not sure if there are complications my pea sized brain hasn't thought of.
Only one really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Players ain't signing such team favoured contracts if they have multiple options, which, yanno, most good players do.
This. Until we're off the bottom of the table, the good players have the bargaining power.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Which should be patently obvious to anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Except captain obvious. The've been quiet recently. Maybe everything on here has become obvious and they feel threatened.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Don't get the love for Paartalu. His best days were years ago at the Roar and he ended up as a bench warmer at Heart. Follows the biggest pay cheque he can find. I would pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
The big question is what to do with the last foreign spot (the other earmarked on a Chinese player) and can Kokko be moved back home. If Kokko stays for another season then we should at least try to use him effectively and try a 442 with O'Donnovan and Kokko in tandem.
I would then use our marquee spot on a foreign No 6 and look for a Chinese left winger and Nathan Burns (or Mitch Austin as a fallback).
I would also try to sign Jacob Tratt to strengthen CB and is without a club.
If Kokko can be moved on then a marquee #10 who can also play wide if needed.
Every year you get these calls, let's sign all our players on 1 year incentive based contracts. No decent player is coming to Newcastle under those termsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
considerin word on lei lei joinin lionong whowin has gone super quite, if he then ends off no longer going there then I don't really see us getting rid of him just to go scout another chinese player who unless is under marquee wages probably wont be any better then lei lei is
Lei Lei is off contract. You think he wants to come back? I doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
I would assume the club would rather try keeping him then use the time to take a trip to china to find another player, i never heard anything of lei lei having a hard time hereQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
The Chinese Lightsalesman has a football club over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
You think one of those blokes he pays the wages of could recommend a player??
Why in ****sname would we need to make a trip to China when the ****ing club owner lives there and can just ring his staff and say pony up a Chinese bloke to send to these shit **** Aussies
So that we get the right guy. A phone call could see them sending anyone in their place.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'd assume most any coach would wanna have some say in who we get, considering the coach gets nothing from giving us his players so why would he not just sent the worst player in his team to us?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Regardless, lei lei posted on instagram saying bye to the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
So we don't have a Messi any more.....:fright:Quote:
Originally Posted by OmeletteDuFromage
True never saw that, thanks for the infoQuote:
Originally Posted by OmeletteDuFromage
Hoffman posted on IG that he'll miss his bestie Mullen. I'm assuming it's Mullen leaving.
You say that like the bloke cares about us.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Exactly what he done so far to help us succeed??
Na mate he's tight as with Jarrod.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
I noticed he was off contract. He was very impressive this year, i would sign him but we already have Johnny K and Jackson for cover there?Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
He did play out wide for Phoenix too. Seems someone who can legit play right across the back line.
He got a release for personal reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Wanted to move back home to Sydney area for some reason
So I backing if he wanting to stay in HAL he going to one of the 4 NSW teams.
Smurfs have Grant and WSW have just coughed up for Risdon
So it either us or Gypos for him
i see what you did there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
I am hoping we shed Mullen, then use Boogs, Jackson, Johnny K and add Tratt. I think there would be good competition to partner Boogs yet flexible enough to play other positions. I would rather that than stump up huge $$$ for another expensive CBQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Jackson needs to step up this year. Cement that CB starting role. He is not a LB at all and signing Georgievski makes sure he won't be again. 6 and 10 is where the money needs to be splashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Dino Djulbic?
Contract not renewed at Perth.
Obviously Tratt, being a youngster would be a better option. However, Djulbic would be a solid option if cheap enough.
34, no thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by PC14
I'll assume that Mullsy has signed with someone else in that case, doubt a new coach would have made the call so soon. Shame, I rate Mullsy at the very least as a squad member, but definitely as a CB, we were a tighter unit with him and Boogaard in tandem rather than Jackson there.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...verseas-talent
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Newcastle Jets are harnessing the power of Facebook to unearth foreign talent as they seek to bolster their roster for next season.
By Dave Lewis
5 MAY 2017 - 6:33 PM UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
With his eye on attracting a Diego Castro-like visa signing, football operations chief Joel Griffiths - whose playing career took in China, England and Switzerland and France - has turned to the web to scour his far-flung Facebook contacts in a novel approach to player recruitment.
Though the as yet un-named new Jets coach will have the final say, club legend Griffiths is doing his best to provide some interesting options when Mark Jones's replacement is announced.
"We have a foreign (marquee) spot we want to fill and are searching under every rock to find that player," declared Griffiths.
"It's amazing how helpful Facebook can be - there are people I played with in France and Switzerland who I've reached out to for recommendations on players in their leagues.
"We have done a similar thing with players in the MLS, and it's incredible the feedback you can get through that Facebook forum.
"It's a good thing, though obviously it's really important you trust the judgement of those you're talking to."
The Jets, who plan to unveil a new coach imminently, have 10 players coming off contract including imports Morten Nordstrand, Ma Leilei and Mateo Poljak - none of whom look likely to be retained.
Finnish forward Aleksandr Kokko has a year remaining on his two-year whilst Englishman Wayne Brown has two seasons left on his contract.
Highly prized import Rory O'Donovan has just penned a two-year agreement in a significant boost for the wooden spooners.
"Whoever does eventually come in will have a stronger squad than in previous seasons to pick from," insisted Griffiths.
"We have some really good players on our shortlist for available positions ... players I rate highly from my playing days."
He has done absolutely nothing this season except get rinsed and have mistakes leading to goals wether playing RB or CB. Im sorry but anyone who rates Mullen wasnt playing here. A squad player is expected to at least play 5 games I reckon and we would need to be comfortable in them doing a decent job for us and Mullen and Kanta to a lesser extent havent done that in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
(Ill beat you guys to it. "here we go Stanny hating Mullen again" I dont hate Mullen just sick of players not performing at all and people saying they should or the club renewing their contract
Jackson and Koutroumis mistakes led to far more goals against us, so why not have a shot at them as well? Mullsy was nowhere near as bad as what he's purported by some here to be as a CB, I personally would prefer to keep him, rather than have a choice of Marc Warren or Marc Warren when we are trying to finalise our squad for next season
It's the"BK Syndrome". Specific to this very foz.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
Some guys cop it continuously and every error is jumped on and analysed.
Some like Griff could murder their own mother and it would be covered over quickly.
Jackson is Young so is Johhny K and ive seen them have good games mixed in with the mistakes. When's the last game Mullen was good all season??? I can only name 2 Perth away first time and City in Coffs thats not good enough for a starter or squaddieQuote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
Jackson young or not made a pile of them and should have been hookedQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Only problem was Mullen Boogaard was the only real options
Johnny K made some mistakes but nowhere near as many as the rest of them did
Bloke was also not regularly selected as a starter anyway so he was dealt with after poor form
Dino Drill Bits whether 34 or not is an HAL standard playerQuote:
Originally Posted by OmeletteDuFromage
He also has some Mongrel in him
Being he is better than the blokes we have already exactly why we saying no to him ??
He might be worth a 1 year deal to help with our rebuild that going to take a couple of years particularly if we ain't going to replace our entire shit backline straight away
1 year as a short term plug isn't the worst option