This is what I'm getting at. Its not unrealistic. People just want to accept shit because that's what we've been dished up for the past years. I'm giving out a decent squad that not everyone would agree on every player but if we got together 80% I bet we'd be comfortably in the top 6 and attract decent crowds.Originally Posted by plague
Just wanted to make sure you knew that my comment yesterday was aimed at the guys who keep shutting down every player that gets mentioned and get all red in the cheeks when someone mentions squad player. I agree with them that we need to be signing first teamers only, but i don't see us having the ability to attract them next year. George and Caravan aren't exactly cream players like Burns and Paartalu.
I agree with you that it isn't hard to make up a decent team in this league without breaking the bank other than the fact that we have nothing to intice players other than a new addition to their cutlery drawer at home.
I also think the member is right that we need to be careful not to load up contracts with heavy wages for players who aren't going to perform for us. I would love to see us offer incentive heavy contracts to players. Not just goals bonuses and clean sheet bonuses but 1, 2 & 3 year options with pay increases each year that the club can activate should they choose. Players then have incentive to play better and know that if they stay around they will get more money.
I like that thinking
Put them all on win bonuses only
Might get a few of them to aim up and actually give a **** about the club
Problem with incentive contracts is we still have a salary floor and cap. No good having win bonuses if when we don't win we still end up having to pay the players anyway
You work for tips do ya?
Plenty of people work on Commission for performance
What's wrong with these blokes doing same same ??
We have offered salary and that don't work
Maybe incentive based is what we need
I don't mean win based contracts. Too hard to quantify per player.
I'm saying you sign a player for 2 years on $80k a season with 1, 2 & 3 year options with a $20k a year increase.
After 2 years the club has the option to keep them for another year on wages of $100k, after another year they can resign them on $120k and same after the players 4th year with the club.
The club has power over whether or not the player stays or goes. The player has an incentive to stay contracted in the form of increased wages. If they aren't good enough then we don't resign them. There aren't transfer fees so there is no risk of letting players run their contract down. If a new coach comes in and doesn't like a few players he can easily move a few off the books and replace them with whoever he wants.
Sounds great in theory, not sure if there are complications my pea sized brain hasn't thought of.
Only one really.
Players ain't signing such team favoured contracts if they have multiple options, which, yanno, most good players do.
This. Until we're off the bottom of the table, the good players have the bargaining power.
Which should be patently obvious to anyone.
Except captain obvious. The've been quiet recently. Maybe everything on here has become obvious and they feel threatened.
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Don't get the love for Paartalu. His best days were years ago at the Roar and he ended up as a bench warmer at Heart. Follows the biggest pay cheque he can find. I would pass.
The big question is what to do with the last foreign spot (the other earmarked on a Chinese player) and can Kokko be moved back home. If Kokko stays for another season then we should at least try to use him effectively and try a 442 with O'Donnovan and Kokko in tandem.
I would then use our marquee spot on a foreign No 6 and look for a Chinese left winger and Nathan Burns (or Mitch Austin as a fallback).
I would also try to sign Jacob Tratt to strengthen CB and is without a club.
If Kokko can be moved on then a marquee #10 who can also play wide if needed.
Every year you get these calls, let's sign all our players on 1 year incentive based contracts. No decent player is coming to Newcastle under those terms
considerin word on lei lei joinin lionong whowin has gone super quite, if he then ends off no longer going there then I don't really see us getting rid of him just to go scout another chinese player who unless is under marquee wages probably wont be any better then lei lei is
Lei Lei is off contract. You think he wants to come back? I doubt it
I would assume the club would rather try keeping him then use the time to take a trip to china to find another player, i never heard anything of lei lei having a hard time here
The Chinese Lightsalesman has a football club over there.
You think one of those blokes he pays the wages of could recommend a player??
Why in ****sname would we need to make a trip to China when the ****ing club owner lives there and can just ring his staff and say pony up a Chinese bloke to send to these shit **** Aussies
So that we get the right guy. A phone call could see them sending anyone in their place.
I'd assume most any coach would wanna have some say in who we get, considering the coach gets nothing from giving us his players so why would he not just sent the worst player in his team to us?
Regardless, lei lei posted on instagram saying bye to the club
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