Not one positive drug test and they're going to ban him on the accounts of "witnesses" who pretty much all have a vendetta or something to gain.
Not guilty.
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Not one positive drug test and they're going to ban him on the accounts of "witnesses" who pretty much all have a vendetta or something to gain.
Not guilty.
guilty as sin but he beat all the others who were on similar stimulants. banning for life is void as he's finished anyway.
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Originally Posted by hawk
jeez I wonder why these athletes take something thats undetectable today but could be years down the track...perhaps many years of hero worshipping and more money in winnings and sponsorships than imaginable
guilty.
interesting that marion jones never failed a drug test either, and i suspect there is a lot of eastern europeans that never failed a drug test that everybody is happy to convict as drug cheats on circumstantial evidence (strong as it may be for some female competitors).
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Originally Posted by parksey
everyone has their points of view... some guilty some not... In any case even if he did... It is an amazing achievement of all he has done.
I for one still think not guilty. With as posted I have had people come after me for 10 years and im over it... Why would someone want to be in the press and courts all the time.
It has a hugeeee tall poppy and witch hunt feel to it.. all this under handed deals to land 1 guy. Not cool..... I miss watching him race it was truelly amazing regardless if he was on some unknown untestable not seen before or developed wunder juice.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooo it seems I may have been 'slightly' off on my whole "Armstrong is innocent he's never tested positive innit" line of defense.
Reports over the last week have changed my view on almost everything to do with sports and the people that run them.
I hereby totally change my stance on this issue. Feel free to ridicule me for believing. Unfortunately I can no longer defend this dude, the sport or the corrupt bastards running it.
Worse part is now the narrative has switched to "oh it's ok that shit ain't going on now".
Exactly how am I supposed to accept that after what's just been exposed?
Amazing.
cycling = tainted
will need wholesale cleanout to remain credible in future
lol this hardly taints cycling any more than it already was. they've been juiced since day dot.
the biggest problem it creates is that people who only had a passing interest in it (read strayans, englishmen) will probably not give a shit any more. it's still ****ing crazy in europe, i was just at the last day of la vuelta in madrid and there was a squillion people in the city and surrounds watching it.
there's still question marks over teams/people but the dopers are getting picked up left, right and centre now - contador, schleck etc. people can and will get caught.
next year will be massive, lots of good GC contenders out there - purito, nibali, froome, contador, etc. all three grand tours promise great things imo, if you don't like it, go to russia etc
I wasnt saying it was any more tainted than it was, its taintedness had been confirmed ;)
The cleanout needs to be public, but proposing an amnesty for users isnt taking a tough stance imo
you try riding a bike up a hill for 3 weeks straight without being on something.
what, like a bike?
Oh don't get me wrong I knew there were cheats before and there will be cheats for many a year to come. I'm just peeved that I was convinced Armstrong was legit. These days with the internetz and stuff there's not much that stays a secret forever (Even Hulk Hogans sex life is public fodder).But for all this stuff to come out seemingly at a much higher level than just the riders it was amazing they got away with it as long as they did.
Will still watch it though, caaarrrrrnnn Cadel and all that.
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Originally Posted by q-money
I never doubted that he was doping. What I don't like is that I can see them stripping him, but not going hell for leather for every other rider of the era.
Lets face it, there is likely to be very few clean riders from that time.
If they want this process to be legit, and not just a well orchestrated witch hunt, they need to keep going and haul every rider in.
Still not sure if this will have a positive impact in the sport. I'd much prefer a focus on current riders.
know anyone selling anything decent, road bike wise at the moment lenny?
in around the $1500 market - was looking at a colnago move 105, which i've seen for around $1399-$1499 - however around that money there's lots of good second hand gear to be had
probably looking at a 54 to 56cm frame - not too phased on groupset, probably just 105 upwards
oh yeah, updated the thread title for posterity
I'll ask around. My brother was selling his but I think has had a change of heart. For $1500 there is normally a decent bike second hand somewhere.
I have a shed full of mtb frames I am trying to shift.
haha, the wife cracking the whip no doubt
not one of your best.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
Not as much as she could/should. Just a bunch of stuff in great condition that isn't being used and won't likely be used.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
All proceeds go towards the next bike.