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Jets Admin keeping me on my toes - Susnjar to be offical at 4pm.
Susjnar signed for 2 years, a little nervous with two years for this one considering he wasn't perfect at Perth, could turn into a Jurman 2.0 situation
This is just a token youth team, where are the players that we hope to sell on for profit, other than Stamma, none. Where are the young African origin players that other teams have had success with. This is just a boring line up. Hope to be proven wrong
You are forgetting this is Newcastle where if you are not related to, the child of a player who made it to NPL level in the past or known to those in the youth set up you have no chance of getting to be recognised as having talent. The first people Newcastle Jets need to hire are scouts in the outer reaches of Northern NSW to identify those kids with potential and offer them something to entice them to the system rather than asking them to pay for the privelege. Then we may see these young marginalised players unveiled.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
To answer the slightly racist question you asked - Amos Okumu & Garang Arou are currently playing in the Jets 1st Grade (Youth Squad) in NPL3.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Bear in mind, Youth Captain and new Scholarship player Ben van Dorssen just got picked in a Young Socceroos Training Camp Squad, so there is a chance of a decent prospect there.
We have 18 under contract, so there is still room for hypothetically 5 more players. I would also think there would be a significant amount of money to spend. We need 3 quality, veteran players at least to be more competitive than last year.
Can you point out the racist part, I?m confused that?s allQuote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
I get the sentiment and concern...it depends on the idea of the role we have in mind for him. Didn't think he was great at LB against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Age-profile wise he's about to hit the apparent "sweet spot" which could be good....Jurman had lost his pace after coming to us and was a few years older.
At 28 he's one of the oldest in the squad (alongside Ryan Scott) so will more than likely need to take on a leadership role within the team.
Remember the difference having Boogaard made to organisation of the defense when he came in - we need the same from Susnjar. I think this puts pressure on Natta more than it does Cancar.
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Jets posted a reel about the players saying who would win the Euros and Vidic was in the video
I had it confirmed he's got a second year of his scholarship to go
Susnjar has been signed to play left centre back, That is currently the position that was occupied by Natta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
For mine on paper it's a decent signing. Susnjar is experienced and likes to play the ball out from the back. As he has played recently as LB , which means he is quite mobile for a taller player.
Importantly Susnjar is very strong in the air, this will help defend and attack on set pieces.
Natta has played LB before and I think he was better there then LCB. I know some have previously disagreed but I remember him playing there 2 seasons ago and he was good.
As for previous posts about players with African background. If you watch SA and VIC NPLs there are plenty of talented players with African backgrounds. The big difference is that Melbourne and Adelaide have bigger African communities, hence they have more players pushing for A League contracts.
Looking at list of highest transfer fees received for players and now many were of African descent.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Irankunda is at no 1.
Djite is at 10 back in 08/09 for ?1.2 million.
Mabil is no 17 back in 15/16 for ?870k.
Garang Kuol was 47th,
49th was Eli Babalj.
I don't think it was racist question, it was just a dumb one. If you meant to say dual internationals, that makes a lot more sense. 9 of the top 10 fees have been dual internationals, 15 of the top 20.
As for quantity, this season there were 3 fees and all had dual citizenship, last year it was 7 of 10, season before was 2 of 2, one before that was 2 of 2.
So, if we want to build players up to sell for profits there's some logic behind finding players will dual citizenship.
You do realise it was an example, even you couldn't be that stupid
An example of a stupid question, indeed I did realise that, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Thankfully tho, out of it I've added some wonderful information for people to digest. So all's well that ends well.
You seem to have missed the full stop mate, in your rush to have a go at me again. It makes a huge difference to intelligent people.
Is Maverick allowing a marquee player?
Another young Sydney player signed, it?s starting to wear thin
I think all represented by the same agency too
Sky blue kiddies FC.
All BS aside if the smurfs rated this kid he would be remaining there given the number of players they have offloaded who play the middle of the park. This demonstrates Stanton's lack of a real network IMO and reeks of him just going back to the same old well.
Or doing his old club a favourQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
Sydney FC have produced the best young players for the last 5 years. So I don't have a problem in the signing of him as a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Clayton Taylor never got a first team look in at Sydney and look at how well he went. I wouldn't judge this year's Sydney FC NSW NPL team as they are an extremely young team.
What does concern me about the signing is the fact he is on loan. I think part of the ownership model is getting young players to sell on, unless he signs on with the jets at seasons end we would have been better to get a free agent.
Yeah I don't like the loan signing either. It only really works in our favour if he is a squaddie that doesn't get much game time and doesn't look like an improvement prospect, in which case why sign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield
If he has a killer season, then he goes back to Sydney where they can reap the benefit of his game time with us.
Having said that, contracts in the league are a joke anyway, so its possible that if he likes it here and it works for both parties then the loan will become permanent with a "mutual termination", and the loan is just a method to get him to us sooner.
Joey champness to Auckland, I forgot about that kid who?s now 27, be playing in Turkey whilst pumping out the tunes
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Everyone with that management group Id sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
$530,000 towards the salary cap, it use to be $3.6 mil, the tv deal hasn?t changed, the APL still receives their money, where?s the cash gone
The boss of Disney just brought a controlling share in a NWSL 'franchise' at a value of just under $300m.
These A-league owners are playing the long game. Whether they get there or not in the short term is subjective, but don't doubt their motives.
It will come, but there's much work to be done.
Then they set the salary floor at 2.25 Million, instead of saying " look we fukt up big time, just spend what you can afford ". DickheadsQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
I read an article on CodeSports further explaining the decision and while at a business-level what you say makes sense (i.e. living within their means) it called out the Collective Bargaining Agreement has set out minimum spend on wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
I'd then anticipate any move to reduce this would trigger action from the PFA.
Really is a mess.
It will all be a mess for the next 2 seasons which is the remaining contract period with paramount.
Who knows what interest there will be for the tv rights new deal and you would imagine the money won't be great.
That could very well happen JP, the PFA would rather see the competition fold than tamper with the CBA. Most clubs will be around the 2 million anyway, but they shouldn't be dictating set amounts after the disgraceful performance of the last few years. Yep it's a messQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Your reply got me thinking further and in a different way how snookered the owners are with the current arrangements (CBA and APL competition rules), as I understand them.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Owners have to:
- Have a minimum squad of 23 players.
- Spend a minimum percentage of the salary cap (90% if I recall)
- But the CBA would outline the minimum wages for full time players too.
Arguably, an owner could recruit a team of young players, like we have. They would have a lower wage compared to older players so you could reduce your spend that way....but you have to spend the floor of the cap. So how do you make up the difference...do you have a few older players that you possibly end up over paying just to meet that floor?
So, yeah I agree with you about the rules being dictated to owners and would say concessions are needed for them - specifically a minimum cap spend reduction. Owners are between a rock and a hard place.
But the owners also have a seat at the table of the APL - that's why to comp broke away so they would. So shouldn't they be able to change some of those comp rules?
Happy for others to flag if I have misunderstandings above.
Not all owners have equal say JP, This was Sage's concerns from the outset, He was justified in his gripe that a handful of clubs on the East Coast had all the say on critical decisions. We know which 4 clubs he was referring to. You only need look who was the previous chair and a few handpicked individuals from the 3 others.
Collectively individuals from those 4 clubs have stuffed the national competition once they were making decisions at the APL.
Buhagiar to Serie B - Brescia Calcio
For his sake if they have goalposts 3 x the size of ours he may just put a few away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Bad news for a new young signing of ours. Oscar Fryer.
Did his Acl at training on Tuesday and will miss the season.
He is likely to be replaced in the squad by another signing.
The club is still looking to bring in 3 more players.
As per Newcastle Herald article.
We?ve signed Lachlan Rose, not sure for how long. Will play in Australia Cup game.
I don't mind him, still young, experienced, good goal strike rate, especially if you disregard his first year up from NPLQuote:
Originally Posted by evolution