Now NPL is over how many NPL clubs not in finals will be dropping their young players down the grades.
Now NPL is over how many NPL clubs not in finals will be dropping their young players down the grades.
Hopefully every player who is registered and qualifies to play gets a run.We cant sit on here and laud clubs for promoting youth then claiming its unfair when they go back and play their appropriate age.NNSW have made football about results so clubs chasing them shouldnt feel the slightest bit guilty about how they do it as long as the rules are followed.Im not saying youre making that argument but theres no doubt going to be people on here who thinks its unfair,and usually those people have vested interests.Originally Posted by Taffy
Top 4 in all grades with most ages having a game in hand.They will be up next year which means at least 3 clubs who started the year in Div 1 will be not going back up.The player merry go round is only just getting started.Full credit to NNSW on this one theres a few clubs who need a real hard look at their youth setups.
This along with player retention/loyalty, are always a similar argument for me.
Is it fair to drop players down grades in finals? Is it allowed?
As per rules, if they allowed to do so and players are eligible, then some clubs will.
There may be some extenuating circumstances, Eg players performing well in a grade and being called up to fill in for a few week to cover injuries/for experience. No problems with these players coming back. For arguments sake, we will stick with the players that are playing in an age group, but we’ve realised they are young and could play down… if we make the finals.
Now depending upon where you fall, depends on how you view it.
Opposition : no, totally unfair.
Player: meh, more games.
Teammates not making way for new player: mixed. Might be good to give us a better chance at winning.
If you’ve got your game time or position lost due to this: pissed.
The general consensus would be that the players that play through the year, earn the right to play the finals games.
Surely, if your clubs management insist on dropping players back to win, at the expense of other players, that’s a bit of a red flag to players and parents? And wouldn’t you think twice about going to a club like that?
Clubs build reputations. It’ll catch up with them eventually. If not, then people are just buying into the same rubbish.
Yeah they will be going up, but if I am Belswans who just proved we are a club that should be in Div 1, how many of their own current players will they be dropping to make way for all these recently relegated kids? I wouldn't be getting rid of too many, they just showed the club they are better than the players from the 3 clubs going down.
As you say though a few clubs who need to have a look, they've been able to sit around comfortable for a long time. Credit to Lakes though for sorting out their issues just as the new system came in. See how long it can last for.
Its a good point and the counter to it is always that the teams doing this sort of stuff are teams that are usually in the finals.Most kids in the higher teams could be the best player on a lower team but would rather be on the fringes in a top 4 team and always be in the mix.If you are in a top 4 team then you have to be aware that theres always someone gunning for your spot.
I guess if winning when you're a teenager is more important than getting much more game time to aide your development to get into 1st grade then that's what you do. It is interesting to see. See many players who won a lot at youth level now struggling to make first grade and have had to jump around clubs. Something need to consider while looks like we will win everything and game time has been good, will it always be like that? To me rather move to another club if it looks like game time will be dropping, don’t get any better on the bench.
Wonder if Charlestown will now solve that u16s problem for next year?
For semis onward at least you have to had played the majority of your games in that age group, the only exception is usually goalkeepers or having a fair amount of players out for injury. worth keeping note of... doesn't matter if its your designated age group or not.
My opinion but the Pre Season and Knock Out Cup and Plate competitions have been a valuable addition to the PYL seasons this year.
Added some value to rego fees and some great development opportunities. Well done NNSWF.
Extra games are always a good thing. Interesting to hear around the clubs that some clubs that hated the idea are now talking about how good it has been (maybe because their clubs are going well now playing like-for-like more often)
Still seems like there have been plenty of blow outs...still could be more like for like games if pro/rel was by team rather than club
Also enticement for talented players to stay at an underperforming club, if the team is decent
Agree but this is an improvement on previous model.
Clubs are finding it difficult recruiting all the best players now due to movements from those that used to feed them.
Looks like a 3 team race to fill the final spot for Div A next year.New Lambton,Mid Coast and Lakes are safe,Belswans in 4th but could get pipped by Cooks Hill or Rosebuds.
An underperforming club with one decent team is still an under performing club, and the club needs to take a look at the underlying causes and issues.
Agree far from perfect but decoupling has raised the bar and you need to build programs to develop players across all grades to be successful.
Unsure how they have added extra value. They have been included as we are playing way less league games this year.
Rather they play 2 rounds of phase 2 then the Cup games. Has been a logistical nightmare for clubs, teams and northern. Northern have struggled to manage the cup comps which shows with the struggle to complete the Grand Finals.
After today's results it sounds like the teams playing in div 1 next year will be the div A teams plus
Lake Mac
Mid Coast
New Lambton
Cooks Hill
Can anyone confirm?
Yes, I believe Cooks Hill's results against Charlestown, and Bellswans inability to get over Lakes sorted it
Would have been interesting to see Bellswans in the top tier
I agree to...my main point is that a club needs some success to turn around their propsects (attracting better players and coaches)...if a team was judged on personal merit, it would give an opportunity to grow club level success out of that seed of a good, or couple of good teamsI can only see a lift and shift of good teams now
Much more competition games being played this year, not sure what you are on about.
The only reason why the Cup Grand Finals are out of whack is because Australia was playing in the Women's World Cup on the weekend when it was scheduled to be played. Only an issue once every 4 years.Rather they play 2 rounds of phase 2 then the Cup games. Has been a logistical nightmare for clubs, teams and northern. Northern have struggled to manage the cup comps which shows with the struggle to complete the Grand Finals.
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