Issue with the new PlayFootball program and being able to get the refs transferred to Squadi I heard.Originally Posted by Reds Forever
Issue with the new PlayFootball program and being able to get the refs transferred to Squadi I heard.
But I am in my local competition...as much as you don't like to acknowledge that 🤷
I'm aware...huge numbers drop off, or decide just to play their local competition
So why are we bothering to go to this huge inconvenience (for them and us) to develop young footballers there, when they generally won't continue in senior football at that same level
That kid who has that "scholarship" contract with Mariners, he moved there right?...he's not travelling from Coffs to Gosford 5 times a week...I imagine his family moved him around 2 years ago
If you're in the interdistrcit comp (your local comp) already then not sure why you're complaining. If you're in the PYL, then you're in Northern's comp which covers shock, horror, Northern NSW.
Nope, he played the entire season for the NCF U16s last year and moved to CCM early this year.
Huge inconvenience? Get a grip man. It is a 4 hour each way drive for you once or twice a YEAR. I spoke to a few BM parents at the games last weekend and the majority I spoke to didn't seem to mind too much. Most made a weekend of it staying overnight and doing a few things. Northern_swan made a good point earlier about the scheduling of games during big events. If this happens, I would suggest looking a bit further south around Urunga/Nambucca/Scotts Head, which are all around 25-40 mins away.
Now that NCF has established itself as a competitive team across the ages, I thought it would be preferable for them to remain rather than having more blow out scores in Div A?
I havent met many people in all my years who have a problem with going up there once a year especially when they have a few months notice to organise.I can understand both clubs feeling hard done by when asked to travel on short notice.I also suspect plenty of parents dont enjoy going all the way up there to lose and would be much happier with the travel if NC wasnt so good.I hope they continue in the program and hope NNSW help all clubs as much as possible with travel and scheduling.
I would like to add that I saw some decent referring on the weekend in youth. Although not always correct they got most of the important decisions right for both teams.
Not asking for anymore than that. BTW all were slightly older that the boys that were playing. It does work.
There were no refs for our club last weekend and none scheduled again this weekend.
Did you have to dust off the old whistle?
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Who reffed?
A home club official. One of the youth coaches, i believe. I applaud him for putting his hand up and he did a pretty good job, but the simple fact is that situation is far from ideal.
If we are short of referees then they need to be shared as equally as possible amongst all clubs in both divisions.
Thankfully no. Refereeing is not my gig.Did you have to dust off the old whistle?
From what Ive been told there wasnt a huge influx of new referees this year and last years big group have few that are ready to step up from JDL to NPL.Theres also been a lot of chatter amongst the group about the failure of clubs to take action against players and coaches who have gone so far as to level death threats against young refs online.My lads know about it and theres no way Ill let them take appointments at the club involved if they ever get put on there.Just FYI Hunter Im pretty sure I know which club you are at and its not yours so lack of numbers should be the only reason you arent getting them.My boys have been out at your club since day 1 and never had an issue (but some night games can always get a bit rowdy!!).Hoping its not too far off a few more 2nd year refs being ready to take on NPL jobs but until then there doesnt seem to be much anyone can do.
Just an observation, but that is the probably one of the biggest differences I have noticed moving from PYLB in 2024 to NPL in Sydney this year. Heaps of refs, my son is 14s and the refs have been much older refs as well. Always 3 officials for games as they do two age groups and 3 new officials take over. I know it?s a bigger pool of refs but it?s light years ahead of NNSWF.
Agree. Share the load. It was mentioned a while back that a clubman ref is better than a young kid thrown in before they're ready. That still applies.
You also have a population that is ten times the size of ours.
Fact remains that in a smaller area like ours, we need to do a lot more to keep refs, and that starts with everyone involved in the sport not acting like twats if refs make mistakes, which they will.
As far as I’m aware, northern will not appoint junior refs by themselves on PYL without assistants, see example of old mate above, whereas in community they’re more willing to, for obvious reasons. You also can’t draw from community as those refs simply don’t want to do northern games, and those games have just as much right to refs. And unfortunately, from my experience, northern will also appoint from the top down, so if you’re in ZL3 or Div 2, you’re much less likely to see refs than ZPL or Div 1.
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Not sure what your definition of a junior ref is but the preferred option is for a referee to be minimum 1 year older than the division they are centering.Across 3 games they get 1 x centre and 2 x lines with seniority being applied to whoever does the older age groups.My lads have certainly reffed NPL games without assistants and by the time they get to 16/17 they are considered good/experienced enough to ref any age group.Again my lads have done older ages when they have been called upon in an emergency and have done games in the same division of which they play.Its not preferred by NNSW but if its that or nothing they trust the referees to do a good job.Community refs are from a different pool so they cant cross over even if they wanted to.I wish they were combined but thats a different issue and those kids have every right to get officials I agree.Word is there has already been one lengthy suspension handed out to a player for abuse this season lets hope the referee isnt one of the ones who gives up if he has to go through that more often.
Being slightly older is a big help when reffing in youth. ive seen young lads do well in community & usually they play at that higher level.
Being 16 and reffing men doesn't mean its good. It should only happen if theyre really ready and proven at youth older.
Only a few lads that age could do a GOOD job in that adult space.
We need a culture like cricket where theres no disrespect.
Sorry I didnt make myself clear.The best 16/17 yr olds are ok to ref any youth age group.There arent any kids that age anywhere near centering seniors.They are given opportunites to run lines in ressies or do 4th official duties in seniors but I agree those ages doing mens is a bit young.It is why they have opened up ZPL opportunites for 16 and above this season.As long as they are experienced they may get lines and centres in 3rds but they would have to go through NPL youth then onto ZPL before getting any shot at centering seniors.The cricket culture is a great standard to aim for and NNSW arent messing around handing out the suspensions already so hopefully some lessons are learned and behaviors change amongst a few out there.
The best ref's will ref the best competition, development for the ref's is no different to players - Theres a pathway for them to aleague etc. They move out of JDL once they are old enough to ref the older age groups, and if they are old enough they will move out of JDL as soon as they get sign off from the assessor.
You can't centre a senior game till you are 18 and I don't think it matters how good you are. You can't do your level 3 prac for your ref course until your are 18, even if you've done the theory part.
Just think of referees in the same way you think of players and you'll understand why and how they are assigned to games.
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