The A-League Expansion Thread

[Hunter403]

Expansion: great
Promotion and relegation: worried what happens should the Jets, Scum or other "small" team come last and get replaced by another capital city team. Jets would die if relegated to NPL.

[Mark325]

Expansion: great
Promotion and relegation: worried what happens should the Jets, Scum or other "small" team come last and get replaced by another capital city team. Jets would die if relegated to NPL.

I agree with this, expansion is much more important before we focus on promotion and relegation.

[Couscous]

if i was a potential tenderer, "Other" is a category that would scare the crap out of me. it screams at me that it doesn't matter how good/deserving your application may be, if you don't fit our pre-determined thoughts, then you won't get in.

In some government tenders, they list the percentage weighting that each criterion has on the final evaluation.

That'd be going overboard here, though. For a decision like this, discretion is always going to play a biggish part. I'm okay with that ... though I worry about the FFA's competence/motives.

[hawk]

Expansion: great
Promotion and relegation: worried what happens should the Jets, Scum or other "small" team come last and get replaced by another capital city team. Jets would die if relegated to NPL.

you mean 2nd division. We'll smash that comp...occasionally

[Jetmaster]

you mean 2nd division. We'll smash that comp...occasionally

Correct...there has to be a professional second tier before promotion/relegation comes in.

Will be just like our English namesakes....up and down like the proverbial toilet seat.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Correct...there has to be a professional second tier before promotion/relegation comes in.

Will be just like our English namesakes....up and down like the proverbial toilet seat.

Absolutely.
The clubs in the NPL stream who are baying for a professional second tier need to be able to show that the second tier is financially feasible within the country first.
I don't think a lot of them truly understand the amount of money it would take to just travel with squads around the country every weekend. This is Australia, shit ain't cheap.

I'd rather see NPL play as normal through winter and then the winners of each member federation, instead of playing a meaningless "finals series", play a home and away comp in line with HAL during all or part of Summer.
This would actually push them to get their development streams in order, and build a strong second tier competition before we talk about Promotion/Relegation.

[cam]

Absolutely.
The clubs in the NPL stream who are baying for a professional second tier need to be able to show that the second tier is financially feasible within the country first.
I don't think a lot of them truly understand the amount of money it would take to just travel with squads around the country every weekend. This is Australia, shit ain't cheap.

I'd rather see NPL play as normal through winter and then the winners of each member federation, instead of playing a meaningless "finals series", play a home and away comp in line with HAL during all or part of Summer.
This would actually push them to get their development streams in order, and build a strong second tier competition before we talk about Promotion/Relegation.

I really like this idea, wouldn't the NPL players get burnt out playing 3/4 of the year though?

[MonkeyKplunk]

I really like this idea, wouldn't the NPL players get burnt out playing 3/4 of the year though?

There is a risk of that, but every year people carry on about NPL players not getting picked up by HAL teams and if they want to push that more and be considered to be professional rather than semi then it's a risk they need to take.
Also, if any of them were to make a move to Europe they'd be playing/hard training for about that amount of time anyway.

[Premy]

Second Division.
http://www.dscribe.net.au/2018/04/09...cond-division/

[hawk]

have to be east coast for cheap travel

[plague]

Why is there this notion that its gotta be cost neutral, or even cost effective to run a club.

****spoiler alert**** running 'most' sporting clubs across the globe in all sports at all levels is a loss making exercise.

All we need is a bunch of ego fueled rich assholes to take on these project 2nd tier clubs and build them into something worthy (both on and off field) of entering the top flight comp.

Now, before you go bringing up the Tinkler and Palmer examples, let me remind you that they ultimately rebelled due to not having any power within the sport despite providing the money.

So give them a comp, give them the power (like the major US sports) and promise them promotion in 2, 5 or 10 years. Then tell the A-league teams relegation is happening and give them the power they need and watch them get their houses in order.

The FFA need to realise that with no money, and therefore no real power, that the quicker they get out of the way the quicker the sport can naturally evolve. Their bullshit is holding it all back.

[hawk]

Why is there this notion that its gotta be cost neutral, or even cost effective to run a club.
****spoiler alert**** running 'most' sporting clubs across the globe in all sports at all levels is a loss making exercise.
All we need is a bunch of ego fueled rich assholes to take on these project 2nd tier clubs and build them into something worthy (both on and off field) of entering the top flight comp.

We cant even get rich knobs to buy top flight let alone sloppy 2nds. low cost or will not happen

[plague]

We cant even get rich knobs to buy top flight let alone sloppy 2nds. low cost or will not happen

Some light bulb salesman brought the stinking Jets.

Anything is possible.
FFA just gotta give them a reason to do so.

[belchardo]

couple of articles on the canberra bid

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...16-p4zflc.html

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...15-p4zfck.html

Canberra's bid will be in on the 24th, and

The FFA will shortlist applicants in June before entering the final stages of submissions, with an announcement on the successful bids to be made by October 31.

[Couscous]

The Canberra bid will flop. The head is aloof and doing nothing to market it. The big clubs aren't involved, nor is Capital Football. What a shame.

[Jeterpool]

The Canberra bid will flop. The head is aloof and doing nothing to market it. The big clubs aren't involved, nor is Capital Football. What a shame.

What are you basing that on?

[Couscous]

What are you basing that on?

I live in Canberra, I play football here, and no one seems to know anything about it.

It's a massive contrast to the previous, excellent bid, led by a well-known executive, which had the support of everyone from the government down and even had 2000+ paid-up members ($200 each). The FFA were utter fools for turning their noses at them.

[Jeterpool]

I live in Canberra, I play football here, and no one seems to know anything about it.

It's a massive contrast to the previous, excellent bid, led by a well-known executive, which had the support of everyone from the government down and even had 2000+ paid-up members ($200 each). The FFA were utter fools for turning their noses at them.

Cheers. Interesting perspective.

Are they keeping their powder dry until they get a bit more certainty from FFA? Not investing too much because of past experiences?

[380]

I live in Canberra, I play football here, and no one seems to know anything about it.

It's a massive contrast to the previous, excellent bid, led by a well-known executive, which had the support of everyone from the government down and even had 2000+ paid-up members ($200 each). The FFA were utter fools for turning their noses at them.

Correct me if i am wrong but i thought Capitol Football in % terms relevant to population had the highest number of registered female competitors in the land.

That is really unfortunate what you are saying and given those registered numbers would seem a real opportunity lost.

[Jeterpool]

Correct me if i am wrong but i thought Capitol Football in % terms relevant to population had the highest number of registered female competitors in the land.

That is really unfortunate what you are saying and given those registered numbers would seem a real opportunity lost.

I'd love a road trip to Canberra for a game. To the 'gong for that matter too.