Fans rep committee (discussion allowed) thread.

[hawk]

this is to allow for when he sticks the mike up his hooter it gets a bit muffled.

[BodyNovo]

whens the next meeting guys?

[Jeterpool]

If I recall it's late feb/early march.

[sammydog]

Who is left for them to meet with?

[Jeterpool]

Who is left for them to meet with?

We can chat amongst ourselves. Plus I still believe Mark D-T and Brooke Cousins are still there unless someone can elighten me otherwise.

[hawk]

Yes it is. Membership is on the next agenda. I think the discussion will be around how can you expect people to return this year after the tripe they've witnessed

Put that on hold. thats not addressing the real issues.

lets talk about getting decent recruitment, football management & coaching staff. And not just we are looking into it sh*t. real info.

get a decent product only then should we bother with increasing membership cause as it stands with our current model membership will halve.

[Jeterpool]

Put that on hold. thats not addressing the real issues.

lets talk about getting decent recruitment, football management & coaching staff. And not just we are looking into it sh*t. real info.

get a decent product only then should we bother with increasing membership cause as it stands with our current model membership will halve.

The club are pretty well set on us not discussing onfield issues. However it's safe to say if they don't sort it out there won't be any members to have a committee for.

Your last point for me is spot on though

[MFKS]

Put that on hold. thats not addressing the real issues.

lets talk about getting decent recruitment, football management & coaching staff. And not just we are looking into it sh*t. real info.

get a decent product only then should we bother with increasing membership cause as it stands with our current model membership will halve.

Only problem is the blokes that are left there just like those that have left show a complete lack of an idea on how to achieve this.

Seems almost like a waste of time

[hawk]

sounds more like a chance for supporters to help do their menial jobs

[MFKS]

sounds more like a chance for supporters to help do their menial jobs

Sounds more like a chance for the supporters to offer up ideas for free cause the blokes getting paid 5 or 6 figure salaries are unable to come up with anything useful themselves despite it being what they are being paid for

[GazFish35]

I see it as an concept still in its infancy.

It certainly runs the risk of being nothing more than cheap PR stunt and a bit of easy market research.
It's what we make it as far as I'm concerned.

That's why I'm asking for people to submit stuff to the club AND to committee members so that if genuine issues aren't being brought forward on the agenda the committee members can start pushing for more transparency.

Ultimately, as I've stated before the communication pathway and control of the agenda needs to be from the fans on the committee, not the club, but this will take time.

We've been asking for fan representation on club decisions for 10 years to write this idea off after 1 meeting would be foolish in the extreme.


Protest, go for it, if I can help, I will. Do it as publicly as you want. Organise a rally, I'll support it, I'm sick of this steaming pile of shit too. But this committee now provides us with a formal communication line with the club, one which has the potential to hold the club to account for a whole range of things. Let's not shoot it down when it hasn't had time to get going.


Some of the stuff might be menial, and no doubt some of the ideas put forward by the committee we here simple ideas that I was amazed had not already been acted on, but we can sit around on keyboards and complain that those being paid to run our club aren't doing it as well as we'd hope, or we can participate in open dialogue and present constructive ideas that might just get put in place and start to have a positive impact.

[hawk]

I just realised the limitations of the committee so my real concerns (club, team & management) arent really valid here.

As for the subcommittee my impressions dont constitute a write off. Not sure where you got that.

Im questioning what the club are really after out of this. Im hoping theyll do the business.

I find discussing future membership is a bit of a non event when the club is in such a pitiful state. It will not improve quickly. However the other issues raised previously here would be a good improvement if carried out. especially the intro of school tournys and player visits, merch, greater interaction between players & supporters etc.

As for communication. I question whether real communication will be achieved or one way lip service as is my previous experience. eg the PA guy didnt improve as requested but got worse, & security hasnt improved in the active.

I also noticed in an earlier post from the first meeting that many items were undecided. Why?

I wouldnt class these issue as complaints but legitimate issues that may be encountered and needed to overcome.

[GazFish35]

I just realised the limitations of the committee so my real concerns (club, team & management) arent really valid here.

The scope of the committes discussion will hopefully broaden, no doubt. The limitations set for last meeting were so that discussion was focussed on issues that could be changed in the short/medium term.... All while the possibility of new owners existed

As for the subcommittee my impressions dont constitute a write off. Not sure where you got that.

not from you, some else suggested it seemed like a waste of time

Im questioning what the club are really after out of this. Im hoping theyll do the business.

so are the committee members

I find discussing future membership is a bit of a non event when the club is in such a pitiful state. It will not improve quickly. However the other issues raised previously here would be a good improvement if carried out. especially the intro of school tournys and player visits, merch, greater interaction between players & supporters etc.

agreed. Though "memberships" as an agenda item were suggested by the club at the end of last meeting.... The landscape has changed somewhat, and again, I encourage fans to submit issues to the club, and committee members so we can start to take some control of the agenda

As for communication. I question whether real communication will be achieved or one way lip service as is my previous experience. eg the PA guy didnt improve as requested but got worse, & security hasnt improved in the active.

also agreed, and this sort of stuff we need to hold them to account on. Publicly available minutes that can be questioned and clarified and reviewed reduces the "lip service"..... They also told us in the meeting that that they weren't looking for ideas to increase single match day ticket sales that involved discounting tickets as history had shown it doesn't have much impact...... Then they ran a 2for1 and that $1, $2, $3, tickets for 10 days thing leading up to the Adelaide game

I also noticed in an earlier post from the first meeting that many items were undecided. Why?

committee isn't set to make decisions, each item is discussed and committee recommendations and feedback taken back to internal departments (probably the same three people) and the club make the decisions.


I wouldnt class these issue as complaints but legitimate issues that may be encountered and needed to overcome.

agreed, and I believe this process, perhaps slow, is one way we can hold the suits to account for their decisions or at the very least be able to call them out on the bullshit PR and lip service they might want to dish out.

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[Jeterpool]

OK everyone, the next members committee meeting will be on March 2nd at 6:00pm.

The next agenda items will be surrounding Membership Packages and Member entitlements / inclusions as well as merchandise items.

The deadline for agenda items to be submitted will be Thursday 19th February and the agenda will be distributed on Monday 23rd February.

So if you have any feedback on the specific membership topic above - be it prices, inclusions, thickness of the card, style of lanyard let us know in this thread before the above date.

Similarly if you have any other topics you wish to be discussed please let us know and we will raise them but no promise they will be discussed this meeting.

I'll go over the old points people have raised before with me (they know who they are), I'll raise the mid-season review results and we can log the engagement points made in the thread Gaz started last week.

Look forward to hearing what you'd like us to discuss.

For those that want to read the last set of minutes - they're here http://membership.newcastlejets.com....-sub-committee

[belchardo]

price of non-ticketed membership - way too high. think i paid $70 for basically a scarf (or was it a hat this year). why not make this not much more than cost price and get a load more non-ticketed/country members?

[Blackmac79]

So basically the next meeting is pointless.

Why the **** do the fans want to talk about this trivial shit that won't matter once the club is sold or taken off Tinkler anyway?

Waste of time. Talk about something real. Members of the committee should bring forward the numerous issues that have been raised on te forum that fall outside the "membership and inclusions" bracket

[Jeterpool]

So basically the next meeting is pointless.

Why the **** do the fans want to talk about this trivial shit that won't matter once the club is sold or taken off Tinkler anyway?

Waste of time. Talk about something real. Members of the committee should bring forward the numerous issues that have been raised on te forum that fall outside the "membership and inclusions" bracket

The club have said the members committee structure has been included in part of negotiations with potential owners to remain and continue functioning. If any new owner came in knowing what the issues were and how they could be solved, that is time they don't have to spend sorting it out. It gives them easy wins and runs on the board too.

If you'd like to make suggestions directly to the club for discussions you can, otherwise put them directly towards us. However if they're out of scope of the committee then they won't likely be discussed.

[Jeterpool]

price of non-ticketed membership - way too high. think i paid $70 for basically a scarf (or was it a hat this year). why not make this not much more than cost price and get a load more non-ticketed/country members?

Noted. Thanks

[hawk]

The club have said the members committee structure has been included in part of negotiations with potential owners to remain and continue functioning. If any new owner came in knowing what the issues were and how they could be solved, that is time they don't have to spend sorting it out. It gives them easy wins and runs on the board too.

If you'd like to make suggestions directly to the club for discussions you can, otherwise put them directly towards us. However if they're out of scope of the committee then they won't likely be discussed.

this makes it really hard for you committee members. Going in to maintain strong ongoing relations and having to talk about issues that arent really needed right now due to our other problems. anyway if you get a chance for general business bring up those prev ideas in here. there pretty good.

I dont know what is worse arguing about card thickness or being a gypo.

[Grimario]

price of non-ticketed membership - way too high. think i paid $70 for basically a scarf (or was it a hat this year). why not make this not much more than cost price and get a load more non-ticketed/country members?

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