Jones more than anyone of the "local" connection deserves to be involved. I just hope sanity prevails and he is like you said Furns appointed assistant or at the very least Youth coach.Originally Posted by furns
Jones more than anyone of the "local" connection deserves to be involved. I just hope sanity prevails and he is like you said Furns appointed assistant or at the very least Youth coach.
Alright.
So, first of all, I would love to see some better community engagement. I know it's something that others have touched on, but it's vital.
The club needs to - in my opinion - employ someone whose sole job is community engagement. Now, I apologise in advance, but living in Brisbane and seeing the changes the Roar have made over the last few years, it's not difficult to see why their membership base and their general appeal in the city is increasing (of course, winning helps..).
They brought in someone whose sole role with the club was to engage the local clubs, and work alongside an already existing "Supporter Liaison Officer". Things like the occasional free ticket, getting some players to club awards nights, etc. have all gone a long way over the last 4 or 5 years - so much so that they're starting to expand it toward the Gold Coast/Sunshine Coast.
Start the kids young, drag their parents along, give them a ticket for a mate from school and watch the attendance grow steadily again.
Basically I just want to see a club that's proud to represent the Hunter, and that the people of the Hunter can be proud of.
I don't want us to be some "token regional club" (ie. like the Gypos) that the FFA prop up to make it seem like it gives a shit about what goes on outside the capitals.
Whether they wear Emerald (preferably), Gold, or Red/Blue, each player should know that it's an HONOUR to represent Newcastle and it's very rich football history.
Welcome. Great first two posts.
If the new entity is going to have money spent on backroom staff, you idea certainly has merit and is proven in the league.
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As Jeterpool said - welcome to the foz.
And great points.
Would read again.
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.JETS members will be given a chance to tell the FFA what they want from the Hunter's A-League outfit at three forums in June.
The forums will be held for business leaders, members and Northern NSW Football's community on June 10, June 18 and June 24 respectively.
The forums for members and the football community will also be run virtually through social media to allow those unable to physically attend to contribute, with online surveys also underway.
A-League boss Damien de Bohun said the FFA was committed to keeping the Hunter at the heart of the new club.
“Clubs exist for their members, fans and the wider community,” said de Bohun.
“Listening to these people is more than consultation, it’s about putting the culture, values and aspirations of Newcastle and Northern NSW into the way the Jets act and think.”
Members are urged to pre-register for the June 18 forum, with details on that process still to be confirmed, while the business event will be invite-only.
Northern NSW Football chief executive David Eland said the engagement was "unprecedented in the A-League era".
“These three forums will provide the FFA and Newcastle Jets administration with a clear understanding of the Newcastle community’s expectations of the new club," Eland said.
"It’s exciting times for the whole game in the region.”
There it is
Officially now
^^^^^
Might as well get in early and recommend that the 2nd and 3rd Forums are held in the evening. That would be the most logical thing to do as couldn't imagine too many people making it if they are on during the day because of work commitments.
They wouldn't schedule a forum for supporters during a weekday. As it's on a Thursday I am guessing it will be evening.
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- Club values - Humility, Effort, Ambition, Respect, Teamwork - I want more than a team that gives 100% on the field, I want skill, guile, class, and players who kiss the badge and celebrate with the fans. The Jets should represent everything good about football, not just one aspect.
- Structure - Majority owner who will offer ownership to supporters in the club - the money from supporters can go towards supporter facilities that have never been built (see below)
- As mentioned above by someone else. The club should definitely have a supporter liason who is a real advocate within the club for supporter interests and is on all important management committees. I don't care if they work 1 day a week so long as they are passionate for connecting supporters to the club - no PR/Marketing types need apply, and should be segregated from commercial roles so there is no conflict of interest between pleasing supporters and sponsors.
- The club start investing in/partnering with a facility near the stadium for supporters, and possibly admin facilities. This should include a bar with memorabilia, a museum, and some of its tennis courts should be turned into futsal courts. Use said money above from supporter investment in the club to make it top notch.
- As GazFish already knows, adorn the Stadium with our rich heritage to make it our home. No point calling it a fortress if we do not make it look like our home first.
- Financial - the club should communicate how it plans to keep out of financial trouble, should have strategies for major sponsorships, and we should know what the financial status is (especially if part owners) no more of this $20 million in debt being revealed when the club goes belly up and then blaming Newcastle for it or made to feel like we owe the owner something. You can hide all the detail if you want, just give us a financial summary of some sort. Revenue is this, Expenses is that.
- Playing strip should be top quality. I don't care what brand but you have to look the part to play the part. Of all merchandise the playing strip generates the most pride in the team. It should be mint.
- Respect (as per the values above) the players who leave. No legend of the club should EVER AGAIN leave this club in disgrace, with a cloud around their motives, or with a one line media release as their farewell.
- Ritual - Brooksey once suggested that a new player's shirt should be unveiled at the Civic Park fountain. He based this on the affinity that Atletico Madrid fans have with the Neptuno fountain in Madrid. I think this is a great idea. The clubs PR people have never understood ritual. Make special announcements at the fountain, or on the City Hall steps overlooking the fountain. This is where we celebrated our championship win. The Jets used to be a club that tried things, were out in the community among the people. Then under Tinkler they all hid under their desks.
- I don't want to ever hear a person from the club say that they want to move on from the past. There were good times and bad times in the past and we lived it.
- The football media ALWAYS say - the Hunter has a rich history of football from the days of British migrants to the coalfields. CLUE: this is our point of difference. No need for a cliché like "Australia's newest oldest club". We have the history always with us. You wouldn't know it looking at the Jets of today. Learn how to build on this solid foundation.
- No more "Believe, Unite, Join the Fight". Can we have something with a bit more style and depth and truth? If not, then just say "Memberships 2015/16 - on sale now"
- Finally, we need to acknowledge that the Knights corner the market on the "working class town" thing. The Jets are creating a new culture that is something more than this. The Jets used to be, in the early days, cosmopolitan, flashy, cunning as well as gritty and solid. The club needs to be a bit more sophisticated than the Knights if we are to fully move out of their shadow. The club should remember this when it rolls out its football clichés. Don't keep trying to appeal to our working class roots. We are building on those roots but Newcastle supporters are more diverse than this.
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Hows it going boys, new kid on the block here.
I want:
- Mulvey as head coach. We're not in a position were we can gamble on a coach like Rudan or Vidmar. We need a guy who can deliver results.
- Bit of a controversial one, stick with the red and blue. Don't get me wrong I am in no way a Rugby League fan but the red and blue is a symbol of sport in Newcastle. Our logo itself is red and blue. Also i'm sick of seeing an array of red, blue, gold, green, white and black in the stands. Stick with the colours. Stay consistent.
- Community engagement is crucial. Regular visits to schools and local teams along with running football clinics is vital to unity of the clubs community.
- No music before the match. Let our voices be heard.
- Make GVE the youth coach. Love him or hate him, you cant deny this bloke can manage youth.
- Keep Jones as the strength and conditioning coach. Guy is way overqualified.
- Greater relationship with Northern NSW Football. Northern NSW is a goldmine of young talents. Regular scouting for the youth, woman's and emerging Jets sides could only be beneficial.
- Move headquarters permanently to Lake Macquarie Regional Football Facility. Fantastic facility in our own backyard. Why aren't we utilising it?
G'day mate and welcome to the foz. I have dealt with your points below
All good points though
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Well done Hauss, someone who takes the time and to go into detail of what he believes this club should stand for deserves a big pat on the back.
I pretty much agree with all the points you have put forth.
The end result should be that we want to build a club where people of the Hunter and beyond are proud of and want to be part of.....WANT TO BE PART OF....is the key.
Cheers mate. Don't think that's an entirely fair comment on Mulvey though. Brisbane were a shambles under Rado. Mulvey completely turned that squad around. Many of Ange's players moved on when he arrived, e.g. Murdocca, Paartalu, Fitzgerald, Nichols, Jurman, Halloran, Visconte. The signings of Miller, North, Yeboah, Clut etc proves that he is more than capable to create his own squad. Rudan's a good bloke and knows his stuff but does he have the character to come into this mess and fully rejuvenate the team? Considering Sydney United 58 finished 9th last season I would rather Mulvey any day of the week.
You do realise he though did lose the respect of his players for being an arrogant so and so??
Being that we have had GVE and Muppet now do exactly the same with the attitude arrogance etc do we really want to go down the same road again with an arrogant manager with people skill issues???
This whole question of colours is such a mess. Just look on facebook, everyone has a different opinion.
I'm don't really have a strong position on this issue. I can see other people's points and would tend to lean with those who are most passionate about it. But:
- The Stadium is red and blue. If we don't adopt red and blue in some way it will always look like we are not playing in our own stadium. The stadium owners will never turn it into a mix of red and blue and emerald and cinnamon.
- Apparently the story goes that the Knights chose Red and Blue because that was the sporting colours of Newcastle Boys High? If so, those colours extend to before the Knights and if we can dig up in the annals of history some link between Newcastle Boys High and football we might be able to legitimise the colour choice.
- Gold looked good on the field. It looks good in photos when you use photoshop to adjust the brightness, otherwise it can look dull
- Gold looked really bad in the stands, particularly because most cheap merchandise was not gold but a really bland beige colour.
- Gold highlights looks really good on the red and blue strip
- Emerald and Cinnamon looks great. I would love for it to play a part in the future. With the emerald and cinnamon as the away strip, it was like the players taking Newcastle with them into enemy territory. You need your flag more when you are away from home than when you are at home.
- I thought that we got the balance right last season, with a red blue and gold home strip and an E&C away strip. The only problem was that the Red and Blue strip looked tacky. If we had a top quality strip I would be much happier.
- I think to have a proper conversation about the colours, we need to get over the fact that Tinkler imposed the change on us with no consultation. It is interesting that the FFA have already chosen our next strip without consultation, and a lot of fans seem opposed to returning to the gold. This could end up being messy too.
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If the red and blue was to remain for the love of god change the shades of blue and red so they actually complement each other.
Colours don't really matter, not when the BLK designs are as woeful as they have been in the past.
Aami park is green Don't see any issues with Victree or Heart wanting to wear green to make it look like they are playing in their stadium.
Shittounge all grey
Perth also has a lot of green
Brisbane have a mix of maroon and yellow.
It ain't an issue for them so it should have no bearing on us.
As for our colour debate no shit we are not gonna agree. Too many differing opinions.
Some love the E&C some love the gold some want the blue/red
Issue is really window dressing and we will support them regardless of colours.
Whatever we do though with them we need to actually pick them and stick to them and stop changing them.
I see the need to change now as many associate blue/red with Tinkler and him stripping us of the gold.
Opportunity is available to change. We either take it or we don't
No, the opportunity is available to choose, not necessarily to change. When Tinkler took over, I saw us moving predominantly to Red and Blue. I was quickly shot down by Timmy V and I was angry with the way the club did it, although I liked that the supporters forced them to make gold part of the kit.
In all those examples, you miss the point that those stadium colours are neutral colours, and they were chosen specifically so they wouldn't favour one particular club. Whereas the Stadium colours in Newcastle were specifically chosen to represent the club that plays in the stadium - the Knights. Brisbane has the same issue with the Broncos. Not only that, but their stadium is way too big for them. As I said earlier, I'm not too fussed. Let the supporters as a whole decide. But if you have a preference for certain colours, you should be able to say why and that reason should make sense.
You would have to ask George Liolio the full reason why gold was chosen, but from conversations I had with him, I believe that it was because he liked the look of New Orleans Saints or some other NFL team that wears gold, and he liked to stand out and be different. So the story with gold goes something along those lines.
Emerald & Cinnamon has a much clearer story of being associated with our city and with KB United.
Red Blue and Gold has its own story. The way I see it, the red and blue (as Joe Public will tell you) are the colours of sporting clubs in Newcastle, and the gold is our bit of rebellion against the Knights to distinguish us from them.
What I would hope for, is that if we choose colours, we say why. If it makes sense, I'm happy.
People who say Black & White because it is NNSWFF colours, those colours have no symbolism to the wider Newcastle public. There is not enough meaning behind them.
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Blue/Red
E&C
Gold
All have a story behind it. All can be used as justifiable reasons.
Blue/Red Origninal Newcastle United colours . Breakers colours. Sporting teams Newy colours
Can argue semantics about the Knights but reality is we do have a connection to the colours anyway
E&C - KB colours and the Newy colours of shit on grass etc
Gold - Jets colours Championship win etc
All have a justifiable claim as being valid and all we can back up with reasons why
Black and White totally agree about no need for them. **** Northern. I also think when the club is called Newcastle UNITED we shouldn't have black and white being that a shit EPL club called Newcastle UNITED also play in those colours. Me I feel no attachment to Newcastle UK whatsoever regardless of whether they and us share the same name for our cities
On another note one thing I would actually like to see changed is the dropping of the term UNITED from our name COMPLETELY.
I know we are normally referred to as Newcastle Jets but I would seriously like to see us disassociate ourselves from the term united.
Run a ****ing google search on Newcastle United and see what comes up.
We don't get a ****ing mention
Run a google search on Newcastle Jets and you will find shit involving a shit EPL side in there.
Time to stand out from the pack and have no dispute with anyone on the planet as to who we are
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