SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

[joel31]

Was actually thinking the same thing today, and with the word that we're trying to sign Ramsey and Danning this well could be what Miller is thinking as well, signing one of them to replace carney on the wing
Another thing I was thinking, probably ridiculous but we're seemingly not talking with any strikers at the moment, and I feel like radivan up front is a mistake. What are the thoughts on Enver up front? The few goals he scored were very clinical, not stuff anyone could just pull out. He's very quick, a lot of skill and seems to be able to get into good positions, along with, like I said good finishing skills. Could well be an option

I'd prefer neither of them up front. We need a striker or 2. I think Enver is better suited to the wing though

[Mark325]

I'd prefer neither of them up front. We need a striker or 2. I think Enver is better suited to the wing though

Yeah I should've prefaced neither are ideal up from and id rather see Enver on the wing

[tomo]

I agree. I still can't believe the salary cap is so full with the shit (inexperience) we have. Kanta and Kennedy would get paid nowhere near what they do at other clubs.

This is where we should be utilising the new "loyalty" exemption... But being the jets... We wont!

[Grimario]

This is where we should be utilising the new "loyalty" exemption... But being the jets... We wont!

Being run by the FFA who won't cough up any outside the cap coin is the problem there, not being the Jets.

[Jeterpool]

I think we all need to just sit back and watch for the next few weeks and watch what happens with the rest of the recruitment because at the moment we only have part of the picture. That's then the time to start bitching. We don't know the role players like Jackson, Hoffman and potentially Watson have been signed to play.

Miller isn't silly either. He'll recognise we don't have a striker, an attacking midfielder or a midfield in general! He said in an early interview he's looking for flexibility in the players he signs - Hoffman for example fits that description, though many are questioning his ability to execute those roles and for those that listen to the podcast, I think Watson would be a good, strong signing.

Like many on here, I am also underwhelmed with the Hoffman signing but more for the fact that it could potentially block the path of a promising young player in Nick Cowburn. Nothing has been said about Cowburn not being given a contract - we need to wait and see.

Either way, there are always going to be players in squads that fans don't particularly rate and we've had a few over the years. As long as we support them on game day if they're wearing the shirt and they show more heart than we've seen in recent times.

[Jeterpool]

Being run by the FFA who won't cough up any outside the cap coin is the problem there, not being the Jets.

But as an entity we are starting to secure sponsorship. Couldn't it be used for this?

[Jeterpool]

Gardiner photographs Van Stratten back working with the Jets keepers

Source: Twitter

[Grimario]

But as an entity we are starting to secure sponsorship. Couldn't it be used for this?

As an entity, we are still FFA run. Any sponsorship money just offsets their expenses, coaching, field and ground hire etc... they won't be putting anything into the club that they don't have to.

[Jeterpool]

As an entity, we are still FFA run. Any sponsorship money just offsets their expenses, coaching, field and ground hire etc... they won't be putting anything into the club that they don't have to.

That's very possible. The money could be spent on lots of things.

I guess it depends on how "hands on" the FFA are being with the club or if they are giving the current management team the ability to run their own race. We aren't going to know that.

I just think from this management team, and I mean business management, they'll be looking to use any avenue they can to make the cap go further. It's open to any A-League club so why should we be disadvantaged because we are run by the FFA? We're in a better position than, say, Brisbane Roar but we wouldn't expect Barkies not to try use any loophole/opportunity they could. I bet if the Roar were being owned by the FFA we'd be saying "oh I bet they're using that loophole on Player X or Y" and "You watch the marquee they bring in".

I get the FFA haven't really come out and said they'll get us a marquee, and I don't think they will, but I just don't want us to think they won't ANY spend money on us.

I think if a sound business case is presented the FFA would support any move. I mean, the Jets just relocated to a nice new office in Honeysuckle. If they were trying to cut costs wouldn't they have stayed out at NNSW HQ, for arguments sake?

Neither of our arguments are based on fact, simply assumptions on what the FFA's motives are. We Jets fans have been bitten by owners seemingly or actually doing the very minimum to exist. Maybe I'm still in that honeymoon period.

[Grimario]

Why would Bakries use any loophole they can to spend money outside the cap that THEY have to pay for? If I was an owner trying to bin off a club, I would be stripping it of all costs that weren't funded by existing sponsorship or salary caps, not looking for loopholes to get a better squad.

[Jeterpool]

Why would Bakries use any loophole they can to spend money outside the cap that THEY have to pay for? If I was an owner trying to bin off a club, I would be stripping it of all costs that weren't funded by existing sponsorship or salary caps, not looking for loopholes to get a better squad.

Ok, maybe not the best example, and I get what you're saying but do you get where I'm coming from? I guess I'm saying because the FFA are looking to sell their asset, wouldn't they want to portray it in the best possible way by using some of what they can within the current rules?

[Grimario]

Ok, maybe not the best example, and I get what you're saying but do you get where I'm coming from?

I do but working in finance, I can see absolutely zero incentive for the FFA to spend any money that they don't have to. They want to shift the ownership ASAP and if the new prospective owner comes in and wants to run a tight ship, having all of this extra cost will make it less of a saleable commodity to that party. I can almost 100% guarantee that there will not be any signing that isn't squeezed into the cap and that's why I fully expect us to give Virgili a call and bring him back on min wage (or sign Danning) as well as offer Ramsay a deal.

[Jeterpool]

I do but working in finance, I can see absolutely zero incentive for the FFA to spend any money that they don't have to. They want to shift the ownership ASAP and if the new prospective owner comes in and wants to run a tight ship, having all of this extra cost will make it less of a saleable commodity to that party. I can almost 100% guarantee that there will not be any signing that isn't squeezed into the cap and that's why I fully expect us to give Virgili a call and bring him back on min wage (or sign Danning) as well as offer Ramsay a deal.

I agree we won't spend on signing outside of the cap. I guess I'm likening tarting up a house with a bit of extra cash to get a better price.

[boz-monaut]

we're the football equivalent of a shithole on Selling Houses Australia

[Jeterpool]

we're the football equivalent of a shithole on Selling Houses Australia

As long as Shayna and Andrew stay well clear, the yes. Charlie seems ok.

[Grimario]

we're the football equivalent of a shithole on Selling Houses Australia

We're the footballing equivalent of the shithole I bought in Maitland... but we don't have dodgy Barry trying to sell the carcass to a naive fool like me.

****ing Barry, you ****.

[borat]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet but Cameron Watson from AUFC to be the next signing for the Jets

[The Dunster]

Is there a critera by which the minimum wage can be ofered to a player in the A-League ?

I mean, is it really feasible that someone of Hoffmans age, with his experience can, or indeed should accept minium wage ?

In the real world minimum wage is pretty much reserved for when people start out rather than when when they are established in a position.

Once someone has served their apprenticeship so to speak they should be on a tradies wage.

[plague]

Is there a critera by which the minimum wage can be ofered to a player in the A-League ?

I mean, is it really feasible that someone of Hoffmans age, with his experience can, or indeed should accept minium wage ?

In the real world minimum wage is pretty much reserved for when people start out rather than when when they are established in a position.

Once someone has served their apprenticeship so to speak they should be on a tradies wage.

depends on the industry, plenty of old people on min wage in service/retail industries regardless of experience.

If that's what the job is worth that's what the offer is I guess.

As long as it ticks off CBA requirements and doesn't contravene laws I guess he's stuck with whatever someone offers.

Agree though calling it 'minimum' wage is misleading in a sense.

[The Camel]

Is there a critera by which the minimum wage can be ofered to a player in the A-League ?

I mean, is it really feasible that someone of Hoffmans age, with his experience can, or indeed should accept minium wage ?

In the real world minimum wage is pretty much reserved for when people start out rather than when when they are established in a position.

Once someone has served their apprenticeship so to speak they should be on a tradies wage.

I am not sure, however I will happily wager that Hoffman is on a whack above minimum wage anyway. There is no way he would walk from his last year of his contract at City for a pay cut and he was signed originally under the Heart regime who were paying over the odds for players.