2016 NEW FM League thread

[football_macigian23]

So top two promoted or will they go premiers and grand final winner with 2nd spot promoted if the same club?

Or will Northern just go whoever meets the criteria and which club they like the most will be promoted.

Why get rid of NewFM? Is Zone Premier good enough to be at the third tier?

There won't be any promotion.. You assume Lakes, Wallsend, South Cardiff??, Kahibah will all apply for NPL licenses then it is up to NNSWF to decide the 10/12 teams to play in the NPL.. Lakes could finish last but next year be in NPL because they've been granted a license.

It will be based on who can meet criteria.. If you don't meet it, you won't get an NPL license.

Northern don't really care about NewFM? If they get 12 NPL clubs that is all they want.. The remaining NewFM teams will have to go into the Zone leagues and wait 3 years before they apply for NPL licenses again

[Bremsstrahlung]

If jets youth move to nsw NPL that means all 4 could go up

[Goatscheese]

There won't be any promotion.. You assume Lakes, Wallsend, South Cardiff??, Kahibah will all apply for NPL licenses then it is up to NNSWF to decide the 10/12 teams to play in the NPL.. Lakes could finish last but next year be in NPL because they've been granted a license.

While it isn't called promotion you are being elevated to the highest local tier.

It will be based on who can meet criteria.. If you don't meet it, you won't get an NPL license.

And if there are more than 3-4 clubs that meet criteria and apply?

Northern don't really care about NewFM? If they get 12 NPL clubs that is all they want.. The remaining NewFM teams will have to go into the Zone leagues and wait 3 years before they apply for NPL licenses again

Giving little incentive for clubs but a degradation of the overall game isn't a concern to Northern

Is there a question about Northern not caring about NewFM?

[The Postman]

The goal is for 2 -12 Team NPLs, will settle for any amount of teams from 10-24 and make divisions based off that

8 and 8
10 and 8
10 and 10
12 and 10

Still always for the option for a 2nd Division with no promotion and relegation for that 3 year period, and then we go through this process once again

[Goatscheese]

The goal is for 2 -12 Team NPLs, will settle for any amount of teams from 10-24 and make divisions based off that

8 and 8
10 and 8
10 and 10
12 and 10

Still always for the option for a 2nd Division with no promotion and relegation for that 3 year period, and then we go through this process once again

Would have to be the only Federation in Australia without at least two top leagues that have promotion and relegation.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Would have to be the only Federation in Australia without at least two top leagues that have promotion and relegation.

I think the idea was that there would be promotion/relegation between the top 2 competitions but not to the 3rd. So ideally all teams in top 2 divisions would have a NPL License (do they still accept "we have these plans if we get promoted") so we don't end up with a scenario where Lakes win NEWFM but don't have a NPL license so don't get promoted.

The idea i Imagine is to get a few more clubs up to scratch and improve the overall standard and facilities.

[The Postman]

I think the idea was that there would be promotion/relegation between the top 2 competitions but not to the 3rd. So ideally all teams in top 2 divisions would have a NPL License (do they still accept "we have these plans if we get promoted") so we don't end up with a scenario where Lakes win NEWFM but don't have a NPL license so don't get promoted.

The idea i Imagine is to get a few more clubs up to scratch and improve the overall standard and facilities.

NNSW going to strong arm stubborn Councils to build a players race and upgrade lighting at several grounds around NewFM?

[Shere Khan]

Yep councils across the Nnsw are just going to roll over and play nice because Nnsw said so.

[MFKS]

So top two promoted or will they go premiers and grand final winner with 2nd spot promoted if the same club?

Or will Northern just go whoever meets the criteria and which club they like the most will be promoted.

Why get rid of NewFM? Is Zone Premier good enough to be at the third tier?

Wouldn't if you removed the New FM from the equation and left it NPL then ZPL make the ZPL the 2nd tier or am I missing something here??

[De-Champ]

Wouldn't if you removed the New FM from the equation and left it NPL then ZPL make the ZPL the 2nd tier or am I missing something here??

The way I read postman's "post" is there is going to be NPL1 and NPL2, in essence the only change would be NEWFM changing its name to NPL2. ZPL will still be the "third tier"

[amishpanda]

There is no guarantee of 2 competitions. The number and make-up of competitions will be determined by the number of clubs granted NPL licenses. The process from here on in is;

1. Clubs apply for an NPL license (based on selection criteria)
2. All clubs that adequately satisfy the criteria will be granted a license
3. The state of the competitions will be made up based on the number of clubs meeting criteria
4. If only 12 club meet the criteria, there will be a 12-team NPL1 and ZPL. If 16 clubs meet the criteria, there may be an 8-team NPL1, 8-team NPL2 and ZPL. In my opinion, there would have to be a minimum of 16 clubs with an NPL license to make it feasible to have an NPL1 and NPL2, however there are a number of possibilities.

Nnsw will not 'strong-arm' councils to build a player race. It will be a simple fact that if clubs do not implement a player race, they will not satisfy the criteria and will not be granted an NPL license. That a decision that clubs will have to make in consultation with councils. I think the player race criteria comes from FFA requirements, so I think complaining about Nnsw here is pointless.

Edit - further information: NNSW will no longer be accepting 'we have plans to xx, yy and zz'. The standard will be set and clubs will want to be compliant to have any chance of being granted an NPL license.

[GO AWAY]

There won't be any promotion.. You assume Lakes, Wallsend, South Cardiff??, Kahibah will all apply for NPL licenses then it is up to NNSWF to decide the 10/12 teams to play in the NPL.. Lakes could finish last but next year be in NPL because they've been granted a license.

It will be based on who can meet criteria.. If you don't meet it, you won't get an NPL license.

Northern don't really care about NewFM? If they get 12 NPL clubs that is all they want.. The remaining NewFM teams will have to go into the Zone leagues and wait 3 years before they apply for NPL licenses again

Lakes, Southy and even Cessnock, Belswans and Toronto would only ones meet ground criteria, excluding player races, latter four would fall over in the junior structure criteria. Kahibah ??? where they going to play from, surely couldn't submit Kahibah Oval or whatever it is as there ground ???? St Johns Oval ? Plus i'm not sure of a U13-14-15-17 structure there either ???? Might be wrong ?

[NewyTy]

Lakes, Southy and even Cessnock, Belswans and Toronto would only ones meet ground criteria, excluding player races, latter four would fall over in the junior structure criteria. Kahibah ??? where they going to play from, surely couldn't submit Kahibah Oval or whatever it is as there ground ???? St Johns Oval ? Plus i'm not sure of a U13-14-15-17 structure there either ???? Might be wrong ?

Kahibah have A grade teams from 12's up but they are still working on a resolution on the ground. I've heard a cost that they'd have to pay to make Kahibah Oval reach standard and it's a huge figure. I'm keen to ask some questions to Northern about how this will all work. I feel like it's a step back if we get rid of the 2nd tier. If they make ZPL go down to 17's then maybe it could work but there's definitely some questions to be answered.

On the topic of player races, I was at Edgeworth on Saturday night and their player race doesn't have a gate like you'd see at Magic. Do they have to make the same standard or not? I'd love to see a list of the NPL requirements and I'm in the process of getting it off one of the NewFM clubs.

[ForeverRed]

Lakes, Southy and even Cessnock, Belswans and Toronto would only ones meet ground criteria, excluding player races, latter four would fall over in the junior structure criteria. Kahibah ??? where they going to play from, surely couldn't submit Kahibah Oval or whatever it is as there ground ???? St Johns Oval ? Plus i'm not sure of a U13-14-15-17 structure there either ???? Might be wrong ?

Junior structure at Southy is fine thanks,

[NewyTy]

Just to add, I was chatting to Belswans about junior structure and they were confident Swansea's juniors would come over if there was a guaranteed higher division to play in. How would The Gardens go meeting requirements of NPL?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just to add, I was chatting to Belswans about junior structure and they were confident Swansea's juniors would come over if there was a guaranteed higher division to play in. How would The Gardens go meeting requirements of NPL?

Is there not already a higher division to play in?
Not sure how that would fare, as it seems more of a "If we get a license we will implement this" opposed to a "We currently have this, therefore are eligible for license".

I imagine the current clubs that hold NPL licenses will be reinstated?
So that is:
Magic, Olympic, Edgy, Weston, Maitland, Charlestown, Valentine, Adamstown, Lambton Jaffas, South Cardiff and Lakes. + Jets 12.
And NEWFM teams likely to apply? Wallsend, Kahibah, Belswans, Toronto, West Wallsend, Cooks Hill could all have a fair crack. So I think there will be at least 16 clubs.

[Swanky]

I reckon the NNSW will take the tried and tested route

12 Team Comp
1 Adamstown
2 Broadmeadow
3 Charlestown
4 Edgeworth
5 Hamilton
6 Jets
7 Lakes
8 Lambton
9 Maitland
10 South Cardiff
11 Valentine
12 Weston

They will then give other clubs 3 years to get up to scratch to make a NPL Division 2
Clubs I would think that may want to pursue this and get there grounds up to scratch
Cooks Hill, Kahibah, Wallsend + whoever else has the drive to join NPL

[NewyTy]

I reckon the NNSW will take the tried and tested route

12 Team Comp
1 Adamstown
2 Broadmeadow
3 Charlestown
4 Edgeworth
5 Hamilton
6 Jets
7 Lakes
8 Lambton
9 Maitland
10 South Cardiff
11 Valentine
12 Weston

They will then give other clubs 3 years to get up to scratch to make a NPL Division 2
Clubs I would think that may want to pursue this and get there grounds up to scratch
Cooks Hill, Kahibah, Wallsend + whoever else has the drive to join NPL

This I agree with. If we have to go with NPL2 clubs should be given two or three years to get it together.

[LongSufferingFan]

I like your idea Swanky of having a Provisional NPL license that gives Clubs a guaranteed start in 2020 provided they meet improvements to facilities, juniors etc as they promise in their applications (thinking Kahibah, Wallsend, Toronto, Belswans, Beresfield, Cooks Hill, Morriset, perhaps even Singleton) however I don't believe you are thinking broadly enough.

My mail is that Mid North Coast and Tamworth want to apply for NPL licenses as well. If you add these two to the current 12 clubs then you almost have NPL1 and NPL2 now.

[ForeverRed]

MNC will definetly be in I'm told